Meeting with Bush Scene | Vice (2018)

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cARIICvN9cQ

One of the best scenes in this movie

[diamenz]

this is better suited for otc. like this video, here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5obLmJ4O9E

[Lebron23]

this is better suited for otc. like this video, here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5obLmJ4O9E

You are one ****** with a short d1ck.

[jstern]

this is better suited for otc. like this video, here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5obLmJ4O9E

I played the embedded YouTube video, and looked up the song on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Dick_Man) to see when it was released. And in Lebron23's defense, the original song is about how she doesn't want a short dick man. Which could be any man of any height, and not about being 4'11" short.

Edit: Also, I forgot to mention that I think that Patrick Chewing teaching Lebron23 how to embed YouTube videos is what inspired him to want to become a politician (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?512532-Exactly-one-year-ago-Patrick-Chewing-taught-Lebron23-how-to-embed-YouTube-videos), so it's nice to see that he's still embedding US President related YouTube videos.

[LLL3]

I thought this was a sequel to the movie Louie starred in called Meeting with Dick.

Just how many of these queer flicks have you been in LJB?

[diamenz]

. And in Lebron23's defense, the original song is about how she doesn't want a short dick man. Which could be any man of any height, and not about being 4'11" short.



i stand corrected.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Vice is a great movie.

[Baller234]

When Christian Bale accepted his oscar award for this film, during his speech he compared Dick Cheney to the devil. The audience mostly laughed and agreed.

Fast forward a few years and now both Bush AND the Cheney family are valiant defenders of democracy in the face of Evil Orange Hitler.

[SouBeachTalents]

When Christian Bale accepted his oscar award for this film, during his speech he compared Dick Cheney to the devil. The audience mostly laughed and agreed.

Fast forward a few years and now both Bush AND the Cheney family are valiant defenders of democracy in the face of Evil Orange Hitler.
Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

[BurningHammer]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

:roll:

[Baller234]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

Golden Globe.

Sue me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq3ferRuDqg&ab_channel=Newsweek

[Patrick Chewing]

OP has been talking about d!cks a lot lately. He's measuring dick sizes on the board, he's seen some of our d!cks apparently, and now he posts a clip about Dick Cheney.


Dude is enthralled by d!cks.

[TheMan]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

:lol

[RRR3]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.
:roll:

[Baller234]

Look at these little schoolgirls trying to pile on with the same laughing emoji because I accidentally confused the oscars with the golden globes. How desparate for a W can these guys possibly be. This is the definition of base level posting. Probably because they're so tired of being embarrassed in thread after thread.

Laugh it up girls, because mixing up the oscars and the golden globes is nowhere as comical as you guys gobbling Cheney's dick after spending the last 20 years pretending he was the antichrist.

[RRR3]

Look at these little schoolgirls trying to pile on with the same laughing emoji because I accidentally confused the oscars with the golden globes. How desparate for a W can these guys possibly be. This is the definition of base level posting. Probably because they're so tired of being embarrassed in thread after thread.

Laugh it up girls, because mixing up the oscars and the golden globes is nowhere as comical as you guys gobbling Cheney's dick after spending the last 20 years pretending he was the antichrist.
Meltdown. Cheney is still the antichrist. Far worse than Trump if it makes you feel better.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

Truth

[MrFonzworth]

Christian Bale didn't win an Oscar for this movie.

Shit :lol

[Baller234]

Meltdown. Cheney is still the antichrist. Far worse than Trump if it makes you feel better.

I suppose that's why you're wet in the pants at the thought of Orange Face going to jail?

[RRR3]

I suppose that's why you're wet in the pants at the thought of Orange Face going to jail?
He already went to jail, champ. Old news. Peep the PFP in case you forgot.

[Jasper]

we all know Chaney ran the White house .. one of the biggest liars in the history of that position.

But Bush did a thru tackle on the war , and our country lost banks , houses and poverty was the all time high.
Great work pub's, making America a shit hole.

[Baller234]

He already went to jail, champ. Old news. Peep the PFP in case you forgot.

Right, because you're obsessed with him.

I bet you were secretly pulling for Liz Cheney. I bet you were turned on when she railed against Trump supporters.

[Baller234]

we all know Chaney ran the White house .. one of the biggest liars in the history of that position.

But Bush did a thru tackle on the war , and our country lost banks , houses and poverty was the all time high.
Great work pub's, making America a shit hole.

Yikes.

Biden and the democrats are more aligned with Bush & Cheney than Trump is.

Congrats on the self own.

[RRR3]

Yikes.

Biden and the democrats are more aligned with Bush & Cheney than Trump is.

Congrats on the self own.
Jasper is a complete moron, but somehow you're even dumber. He was being sarcastic and criticizing Bush/Cheney there. Insane you couldn't infer that.

[Baller234]

Jasper is a complete moron, but somehow you're even dumber. He was being sarcastic and criticizing Bush/Cheney there. Insane you couldn't infer that.

He was laying blame at the feet of "republicans" you dipshit.

[RRR3]

He was laying blame at the feet of "republicans" you dipshit.
Yeah, the Republicans in question being Bush and Cheney :hammerhead:

[Baller234]

Yeah, the Republicans in question being Bush and Cheney :hammerhead:

And who is more aligned with Bush and Cheney currently??? Trump and the MAGA republicans or Brandon and his establishment cohorts???

Go ahead, say it. Show everyone how smart you are.

[RRR3]

:mad:
Melting down once more trying to deflect cuz you got caught saying something stupid again. "But but but Biden bad" yeah I know, irrelevant to you being stupid :lol

[Baller234]

Melting down once more trying to deflect cuz you got caught saying something stupid again. "But but but Biden bad" yeah I know, irrelevant to you being stupid :lol

You can't bring yourself to admit that Biden and Cheney are on the same team and have a common enemy in Trump, because then you would have to explain why you hate Trump more than you hate Biden.

As usual, your hypocrisy and logic backs you into a corner.

[RRR3]

*more pissing and shitting and crying*
You know Trump's policies are closer to Cheney's right? You can verify it by simply doing a review of their times in office as well as stated positions. The Cheneys just don't like him because of the whole January 6 thing. Unless you can seriously tell me what policy Trump had that Cheney disliked. I bet you can't name more than a few at most. If even that. I don't hate Trump that much more than Biden, but his policies are worse so he's undoubtedly more of a problem if in office (not that Biden isn't a huge problem himself). They're arguably equally bad from a moral standpoint, though.

[Baller234]

You know Trump's policies are closer to Cheney's right? You can verify it by simply doing a review of their times in office as well as stated positions. The Cheneys just don't like him because of the whole January 6 thing. Unless you can seriously tell me what policy Trump had that Cheney disliked. I bet you can't name more than a few at most. If even that. I don't hate Trump that much more than Biden, but his policies are worse so he's undoubtedly more of a problem if in office (not that Biden isn't a huge problem himself). They're arguably equally bad from a moral standpoint, though.

I can't even. What is the point of even debating this ridiculous point? Lol, do you really think that is the reason?

Do you also think that pro wrestling is real?

[Patrick Chewing]

we all know Chaney ran the White house .. one of the biggest liars in the history of that position.

But Bush did a thru tackle on the war , and our country lost banks , houses and poverty was the all time high.
Great work pub's, making America a shit hole.

I think you're so mentally retarded with your inbred IQ that you just throw out words and accusations and truly have no idea of what you're talking about.

When you say he was one of the biggest "liars" in the history of that "position", what in the blue hell are you actually talking about? What did Cheney lie about? Who are the other liars of that position that are beneath him since he is one of the biggest? What were their lies?

You are the prototypical low-IQ Liberal that just hurls an accusation towards any Republican in hopes that it sticks. And of course, since all you dipshit low-IQ Liberals are like a hive mind and always stick together, you guys believe your own lies and accusations and never get any pushback.

[RRR3]

I can't even. What is the point of even debating this ridiculous point? Lol, do you really think that is the reason?

Do you also think that pro wrestling is real?
Like I thought. You couldn’t name anything that Cheney disagrees with Trump on :oldlol:

His daughter Liz voted with Trump 93% of the time ffs but she saw an opportunity to get good publicity after January 6 so you think she actually disagrees with Trump’s legislation. Dim.

[RRR3]

I think you're so mentally retarded with your inbred IQ that you just throw out words and accusations and truly have no idea of what you're talking about.

When you say he was one of the biggest "liars" in the history of that "position", what in the blue hell are you actually talking about? What did Cheney lie about? Who are the other liars of that position that are beneath him since he is one of the biggest? What were their lies?

You are the prototypical low-IQ Liberal that just hurls an accusation towards any Republican in hopes that it sticks. And of course, since all you dipshit low-IQ Liberals are like a hive mind and always stick together, you guys believe your own lies and accusations and never get any pushback.
Yikes. Defending Dick Cheney of all people. Fatrick has no low he won’t sink to.

[Baller234]

Like I thought. You couldn’t name anything that Cheney disagrees with Trump on :oldlol:

His daughter Liz voted with Trump 93% of the time ffs but she saw an opportunity to get good publicity after January 6 so you think she actually disagrees with Trump’s legislation. Dim.

Their differences aren't over policy, their differences are over money. That is why Bush, Cheney and the uniparty establishment have all railed against him. It's not because Trump poses a threat to democracy, it's because he poses a threat to their wallet. It's also why left wing media was trying so hard to portray Liz Cheney as some kind principled republican and the last bastion of hope in an otherwise treasonous party. They are all in on it.

Imagine thinking that they would be squabbling over anything else, or insinuating that the Cheneys give a flying f*ck about the capitol riot. :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Yikes. Defending Dick Cheney of all people. Fatrick has no low he won’t sink to.

I'm not defending or not defending anyone here. Just pointing out how stupid Jasper is. And you know how stupid he is, so don't object to what I post. Jasper is older than all of us, but yet he's the dumbest. Explain that.

[RRR3]

Their differences aren't over policy, their differences are over money. That is why Bush, Cheney and the uniparty establishment have all railed against him. It's not because Trump poses a threat to democracy, it's because he poses a threat to their wallet. It's also why left wing media was trying so hard to portray Liz Cheney as some kind principled republican and the last bastion of hope in an otherwise treasonous party. They are all in on it.

Imagine thinking that they would be squabbling over anything else, or insinuating that the Cheneys give a flying f*ck about the capitol riot. :oldlol:
Trump threatens wallets how? He gave massive tax breaks to all his rich buddies. Exactly what the Cheney's would want. I'm also not insinuating the Cheney's care about Democracy (Iraq and the Bush administration is proof they don't) but they are opportunists who saw an opportunity to get good press.

[RRR3]

I'm not defending or not defending anyone here. Just pointing out how stupid Jasper is. And you know how stupid he is, so don't object to what I post. Jasper is older than all of us, but yet he's the dumbest. Explain that.
Yeah he's a moron, that doesn't mean he's wrong that Dick Cheney sucks.

[diamenz]

I'm not defending or not defending anyone here. Just pointing out how stupid Jasper is. And you know how stupid he is, so don't object to what I post. Jasper is older than all of us, but yet he's the dumbest. Explain that.

you'd think an older cat would at least have some wisdom to offer in the absence of intelligence but that's not the case with jasper.

[Baller234]

Trump threatens wallets how? He gave massive tax breaks to all his rich buddies. Exactly what the Cheney's would want. I'm also not insinuating the Cheney's care about Democracy (Iraq and the Bush administration is proof they don't) but they are opportunists who saw an opportunity to get good press.

Jesus, what a ridiculous take. If it were that simple then left wing politicians wouldn't exist in the first place because every wealthy donor would just back the republicans. Owning a politician and/or having direct influence over policy is worth infinitely more than a meager break on your income taxes. Wealthy business owners are going to find ways to skate on that and invent write offs no matter who is in office.

If you're saying that Dick Cheney is the antichrist, then by default you should have more smoke for Biden than you do Orange Face. They're on the same team and fuel the same profiteering war machine. That is why Cheney left his mansion to film a public service announcement to rail against Trump and not Biden. He's a common enemy.

So how can you possibly say that Orange Face is worse than Biden... when Biden is the one more aligned with the antichrist?

[RRR3]

Jesus, what a ridiculous take. If it were that simple then left wing politicians wouldn't exist in the first place because every wealthy donor would just back the republicans. Owning a politician and/or having direct influence over policy is worth infinitely more than a meager break on your income taxes. Wealthy business owners are going to find ways to skate on that and invent write offs no matter who is in office.

If you're saying that Dick Cheney is the antichrist, then by default you should have more smoke for Biden than you do Orange Face. They're on the same team and fuel the same profiteering war machine. That is why Cheney left his mansion to film a public service announcement to rail against Trump and not Biden. He's a common enemy.

So how can you possibly say that Orange Face is worse than Biden... when Biden is the one more aligned with the antichrist?
Are you insinuating Trump doesn't have wealthy donors? :roll: :roll: :roll:


Jesus Christ. The delusional ramblings of a meth-addled madman.

[Baller234]

I didn't say that Trump didn't have wealthy donors at all. That's an insanely bad faith interpretation of my argument.

You inferred that wealthy elites like Cheney prefer tax cuts above all else, but if Trump were really putting more money in his pockets as you claim then Cheney would have no reason to rail against him.

You can post all the emojis you want to try and hide the fact that you're a lying hypocrite. It's not going to work.

[RRR3]

I didn't say that Trump didn't have wealthy donors at all. That's an insanely bad faith interpretation of my argument.

You inferred that wealthy elites like Cheney prefer tax cuts above all else, but if Trump were really putting more money in his pockets as you claim then Cheney would have no reason to rail against him.

You can post all the emojis you want to try and hide the fact that you're a lying hypocrite. It's not going to work.
Please tell me how Trump took money out of the wealthy elite's pockets, then :lol


This should be good

[Baller234]

Oh wow, so I did some digging and found this.

In a thread bashing Liz Cheney, RRR3 posted:


Liz Cheney is an awful fascist but OP is only against her cuz she doesn’t like Trump. He’d love her otherwise.

If Liz Cheney is an awful fascist, why are you so upset that someone has decided to rail against her? Shouldn't you be joining and partaking in the criticism?

Imagine rushing to Hitler's defense like this. "Yea Hitler is a genocidal maniac but OP is only against him because ______", as if him being a genocidal maniac wasn't enough.

Yet here you are adding a disclaimer in the defense of an "awful fascist" because she draws ire from the people you hate the most.

[Lakers Legend#32]

What did Cheney lie about?

" We will be greeted as liberators by the Iraqis."--Darth Cheney

[Baller234]

Please tell me how Trump took money out of the wealthy elite's pockets, then :lol


This should be good

Being the only president in modern history not to lead us into any new wars is certainly a start.

[RRR3]

Being the only president in modern history not to lead us into any new wars is certainly a start.
Biden hasn't started any new wars either (he also ended one, unlike Trump), so Cheney can't be on his side by your own logic :hammerhead:

Trump also dramatically increased drone strikes from Obama, which is honestly impressive considering how much Obama bombed the Middle East. Not to mention the ****ery he did in Niger and attempted to do in Venezuela.

[Baller234]

Biden hasn't started any new wars either (he also ended one, unlike Trump), so Cheney can't be on his side by your own logic :hammerhead:

Trump also dramatically increased drone strikes from Obama, which is honestly impressive considering how much Obama bombed the Middle East. Not to mention the ****ery he did in Niger and attempted to do in Venezuela.

What the f*ck is even going on here?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Afghans falling from a US Cargo plane that left them behind:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0


U.S. Soldiers killed while pulling out from Afghanistan:

Biden - 13

Trump - 0


Russia invades another European country:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0


Islam/Israeli Peace Deals

Biden - 0

Trump - 4


Average cost of a gallon of Gas during their Presidency:

Biden - $3.60

Trump - $2.57



I could go on and on.

[Patrick Chewing]

What the f*ck is even going on here?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

You noticed that too, right?? That's called Liberal Magic. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

What the f*ck is even going on here?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif
Fact: Biden hasn't started any new war

Fact: Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.



Which of these things do you disagree with? :oldlol: There's plenty to criticize Biden for in regards to Afghanistan still btw (starving them with sanctions being the big one), I'm just pointing out you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[RRR3]

Afghans falling from a US Cargo plane that left them behind:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0

Far more Afghans killed by US soldiers under Trump who continued the war.

U.S. Soldiers killed while pulling out from Afghanistan:

Biden - 13

Trump - 0

Far more died under Trump while he continued the war.

Russia invades another European country:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0

This is Biden's fault how? :hammerhead:

Islam/Israeli Peace Deals

Biden - 0

Trump - 4

Your one good point so far. Assuming you're telling the truth, as you've been known to fib.

Average cost of a gallon of Gas during their Presidency:

Biden - $3.60

Trump - $2.57

Holy shit you're so dumb :roll:

I could go on and on.
Answers in bold.

[Patrick Chewing]

When RRR3 is cornered with irrefutable facts, he has two choices:


1. Calls you a dumb
2. Calls you a Nazi

[RRR3]

When RRR3 is cornered with irrefutable facts, he has two choices:


1. Calls you a dumb
2. Calls you a Nazi
When Chewing's points are refuted, he resorts to either

1. whining
2. insults

[Patrick Chewing]

When Chewing's points are refuted, he resorts to either

1. whining
2. insults

First off, there are no insults in my reply, but there are insults in your reply which makes you a hypocrite, which equates to you whining. So when you accuse me of whining and resorting to insults, you're really just accusing yourself.

This is what I meant when talking about the imbecilic nature of people in their 20's.

[RRR3]

First off, there are no insults in my reply, but there are insults in your reply which makes you a hypocrite, which equates to you whining. So when you accuse me of whining and resorting to insults, you're really just accusing yourself.

This is what I meant when talking about the imbecilic nature of people in their 20's.
I actually responded to your points for the most part, just threw in an insult because one of them was basically trolling. You rarely actually respond to my points, and usually just resort to "RRR3 is evil and calls me a Nazi!1!1!" or "RRR3 hot pockets ugly parents hurrr". Pretty much every time you "debate" Highwhey, you just say "highweight lololololol". And then you wonder why people do the same to you :lol Called giving you a taste of your own medicine. And you really don't like it.

[Patrick Chewing]

I actually responded to your points for the most part, just threw in an insult because one of them was basically trolling. You rarely actually respond to my points, and usually just resort to "RRR3 is evil and calls me a Nazi!1!1!" or "RRR3 hot pockets ugly parents hurrr". Pretty much every time you "debate" Highwhey, you just say "highweight lololololol". And then you wonder why people do the same to you :lol Called giving you a taste of your own medicine. And you really don't like it.

LOL you have too much time on your hands man. Get off the internet for a while, bruh.

[BurningHammer]

The actual thread is only the first page. :oldlol:

[Lakers Legend#32]

What did Cheney lie about?

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."--Darth Cheney

[Baller234]

Fact: Biden hasn't started any new war

Fact: Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.



Which of these things do you disagree with? :oldlol: There's plenty to criticize Biden for in regards to Afghanistan still btw (starving them with sanctions being the big one), I'm just pointing out you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Brandon didn't negotiate the withdrawal from Afghanistan genius, Orange Face did. Brandon simply had to honor the arrangement once Orange Face was no longer in office.

How do you not know this?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

[RRR3]

Brandon didn't negotiate the withdrawal from Afghanistan genius, Orange Face did. Brandon simply had to honor the arrangement once Orange Face was no longer in office.

How do you not know this?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif
Some of us can actually look stuff up and not desperately cling to narratives. Your hero actually increased the number of troops in Afghanistan in 2017.


In July 2017, when the official number of US troops operating in Afghanistan was 8,400,[33] President Trump gave the US military decision-making authority to increase troop numbers for military operations in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan without first seeking formal approval from the White House.[34][35] US Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis said: "Our overall mission in Afghanistan remains the same."[36]
On 21 August 2017, President Trump unveiled his administration's strategy for Afghanistan, saying "victory will have a clear definition: attacking our enemies, obliterating the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), crushing al-Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over the country, and stopping mass terror attacks against Americans before they emerge".[37][38] On 24 August, the commander for US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, General John W. Nicholson Jr., confirmed that troop levels, strategy, and conditions for success were dependent on the momentum of the war effort and on-the-ground conditions, not "arbitrary timelines".[39] Trump did not specify the number of troops to be committed under his new open-ended strategy, but congressional officials were told an additional 4,000 troops were to be deployed.[37] The Washington Post reported on 30 August that the additional US forces for Afghanistan would likely include paratroopers as well as small Marine artillery detachments, composed of about 100 or so troops per unit, which were to be dispersed across the country to fill in gaps in air support.[40] According to the report, air support in the form of more F-16 fighters, A-10 ground attack aircraft and additional B-52 bomber support, or a combination of all three, were likely to be used.[40] The newspaper also stated: "The additional US forces will allow Americans to advise Afghan troops in more locations and closer to the fighting, US officials in Kabul said [...]. With more units farther away from the country's biggest bases, additional air support and artillery will be needed to cover those forces."[40] The New York Times added that "the American military will be able to advise select Afghan brigades in the field instead of trying to mentor them from more distant headquarters. They can step up the effort to train special operations forces and, thus, substantially increase the number of Afghan commandos. This will allow American war commanders and service members to call in air and artillery strikes on behalf of more Afghan units."[41]
On 30 August 2017, the Department of Defense disclosed that there were more troops in Afghanistan than previously acknowledged. The Pentagon stated the actual "total force" number was closer to 11,000 rather than the previously stated 8,400, with the larger number including covert as well as temporary units.[41][42] The lower troop-level estimate was a result of misleading accounting measures and red tape.[40]

General Austin S. Miller became commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan in September 2018 and oversaw the withdrawal until July 2021.
In September 2017, the Trump administration began deploying more than 3,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, bringing the total number of US forces in Afghanistan to more than 14,000.[43][44][45] When General Austin "Scott" Miller took command of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan in September 2018, there were 15,000 US troops deployed. In October 2019, following an abrupt end to peace talks with the Taliban a month prior, General Miller announced that US forces had been reduced to 13,000 within a year as a result of a unilateral decision by the US command in Kabul. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper commented on the troop decrease, saying "General Miller is doing exactly what I asked all our commanders to do when I entered office ... to look where they can free up time, money and manpower," as part of the National Defense Strategy to gradually shift global US military strategy from prioritizing counter-terrorism to also countering Russian and Chinese power projection.[46] In December 2019, the Afghanistan Papers revealed that high-ranking military and government officials were generally of the opinion that the war in Afghanistan was unwinnable, but kept this hidden from the public.[47][48] By the end of 2019, nearly 2,400 Americans had died in the war, with more than 20,000 wounded.[46]


As for the rest even if we want to give Trump credit for realizing he was wrong after years of feeding Afghanis to the American war machine, he still hadn’t withdrawn all the troops by the time he left office. “But he would have”-based on what? The man’s a known liar and as detailed above has a history of brutal imperialism in Afghanistan. Biden was the one who withdrew the troops in full, not Trump, and it drives you crazy knowing that. Don’t get me wrong, Biden has tons of bloods on his hands regarding the so called War on Terror and I don’t think he ended the war for any altruistic reasons. But if we’re playing the “well he said he supported withdrawal bro!” game, Biden had said that back in 2014. Who knows if he meant it but I mean it’s no less likely than Trump meaning it. Commence the meltdown now where you whine that I’m being unfair to your imperialist hero.

[Jasper]

Afghans falling from a US Cargo plane that left them behind:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0


U.S. Soldiers killed while pulling out from Afghanistan:

Biden - 13

Trump - 0


Russia invades another European country:

Biden - 1

Trump - 0


Islam/Israeli Peace Deals

Biden - 0

Trump - 4


Average cost of a gallon of Gas during their Presidency:

Biden - $3.60

Trump - $2.57



I could go on and on.

When this post was made, I all most fell of my chair busting a gut.
:roll::roll::roll:

Patsy in a Bush adm thread talking about Trump again , and Biden.
Can you just get over Trump ???
My god your worse than a broken record.

[Baller234]

Some of us can actually look stuff up and not desperately cling to narratives. Your hero actually increased the number of troops in Afghanistan in 2017.




As for the rest even if we want to give Trump credit for realizing he was wrong after years of feeding Afghanis to the American war machine, he still hadn’t withdrawn all the troops by the time he left office. “But he would have”-based on what? The man’s a known liar and as detailed above has a history of brutal imperialism in Afghanistan. Biden was the one who withdrew the troops in full, not Trump, and it drives you crazy knowing that. Don’t get me wrong, Biden has tons of bloods on his hands regarding the so called War on Terror and I don’t think he ended the war for any altruistic reasons. But if we’re playing the “well he said he supported withdrawal bro!” game, Biden had said that back in 2014. Who knows if he meant it but I mean it’s no less likely than Trump meaning it. Commence the meltdown now where you whine that I’m being unfair to your imperialist hero.

For someone who isn't a fan of Brandon, you very badly want to give him credit for something he had absolutely zero hand in.

You can't just withdraw thousands and thousands of U.S. troops overnight after a damn near 20 year occupation genius. There are logistics involved. It's not like moving your family out of your apartment. They made the arrangement and then they set their target date. It's standard practice.

So for you to say Brandon ended the war is total horseshit and nothing but a bold faced lie. In fact Brandon's mishandling of the withdrawal was so severe one has to wonder if he intentionally sabotaged it. So it's really, REALLY weird to watch you tap dance on his behalf. Then again maybe not because above all everything with you revolves around Orange Face.

[RRR3]

Donnie I love you!!!!
^Completely glossed over Trump’s war crimes in Afghanistan and proceeded to sob about my supposed opinions instead. :lol

[Baller234]

^Completely glossed over Trump’s war crimes in Afghanistan and proceeded to sob about my supposed opinions instead. :lol

You don't get to make factually incorrect statements and try to pass them off as opinions.

Brandon is not responsible for the U.S withdrawal from Afghanistan, just like a man can never become a woman.

Everything you parrot is lies. "Brandon ended the war" may be the 3rd or 4th dumbest thing I've seen you say.

[RRR3]

You don't get to make factually incorrect statements and try to pass them off as opinions.

Brandon is not responsible for the U.S withdrawal from Afghanistan, just like a man can never become a woman.

Everything you parrot is lies. "Brandon ended the war" may be the 3rd or 4th dumbest thing I've seen you say.
^Proceeds to continue to melt down and rage about Biden and trans people. Hysterical. It tears you up inside that Biden was the one who withdrew the troops (this is just a factual credit even if you want to give Trump credit). Just eats away at you. Clearly a really sore subject :yaohappy:

[Baller234]

Why would it bother me that Brandon was the one in charge when we withdrew the troops? That would just mean he honored Orange Face's arrangement.

You're acting really strange, even for you. I suppose this is what happens when you completely run out of things to say because all of your arguments have been shot down.

[RRR3]

Why would it bother me that Brandon was the one in charge when we withdrew the troops? That would just mean he honored Orange Face's arrangement.

You're acting really strange, even for you. I suppose this is what happens when you completely run out of things to say because all of your arguments have been shot down.
You’re obviously upset Biden gets all the credit and Trump doesn’t get any. It’s clear as day. You’re enraged because the liberal media doesn’t like your boy. You constantly whine about how unfair Trump’s life is. You still haven’t addressed the fact that Trump made the war have even more soldiers for years before he did anything. Let’s say Trump and no one else gets all the credit for Afgahanistan. Cool he still took years to stop making it worse and continuing it. And you really can’t claim Trump is more anti-war than Biden considering Trump increased drone strikes massively from Obama (while Biden has decreased them a ton) and was guilty of shenafinas in Niger as well. Attempted with Venezuela too. Biden has not started any wars either so they’re even there.

[1987_Lakers]

You’re obviously upset Biden gets all the credit and Trump doesn’t get any. It’s clear as day. You’re enraged because the liberal media doesn’t like your boy. You constantly whine about how unfair Trump’s life is. You still haven’t addressed the fact that Trump made the war have even more soldiers for years before he did anything. Let’s say Trump and no one else gets all the credit for Afgahanistan. Cool he still took years to stop making it worse and continuing it. And you really can’t claim Trump is more anti-war than Biden considering Trump increased drone strikes massively from Obama (while Biden has decreased them a ton) and was guilty of shenafinas in Niger as well. Attempted with Venezuela too. Biden has not started any wars either so they’re even there.

It's a badge of honor to be hated by the mainstream media.

[RRR3]

It's a badge of honor to be hated by the mainstream media.
Sometimes, but Trump is loved by half the mainstream media so he doesn't qualify either. Don't make me pull up your old posts shitting on Trump.

[Patrick Chewing]

When this post was made, I all most fell of my chair busting a gut.
:roll::roll::roll:

Patsy in a Bush adm thread talking about Trump again , and Biden.
Can you just get over Trump ???
My god your worse than a broken record.

It's so hard to understand what you type. It really is. But you're laughing because I brought up Trump in a Bush thread? Is that what you're saying? You don't have any clue that my post was made in reference to a few posts before me that were comparing Biden and Trump do you? You just saw my name, saw that I typed the word "Trump" in my post, and you blew a load and said, boy I gotta get on ISH and throw some shade at Chewing. Is that the gist of it??

It's odd that if you go to post #16 in this thread, it is RRR3 who is the first person to bring up Trump in this thread. But I'm scrolling through all the replies, and for some odd reason, I don't see a reply directed towards RRR3 where you "fell of my chair busting a gut" cause he brought up Trump in a Bush thread. Very weird.

[1987_Lakers]

Sometimes, but Trump is loved by half the mainstream media so he doesn't qualify either. Don't make me pull up your old posts shitting on Trump.
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[RRR3]

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:roll:


CAUGHT

[1987_Lakers]

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CAUGHT

Yes, Trump university was a scam. And Trump himself has traits of narcissistic behavior. If I met him in person I probably wouldn't even like him.

But, In the end, I ended up being wrong. Trump may very well be our only hope. The way the establishment is trying to bury this guy is very telling. I might be a believer now. We will wait and see.

[RRR3]

Yes, Trump university was a scam. And Trump himself has traits of narcissistic behavior. But what does that have to do with being disliked by the mainstream media?

In the end, I ended up being wrong. Trump may very well be our only hope. The way the establishment is trying to bury this guy is very telling. I might be a believer now. We will wait and see.
Trump is only disliked by Mainstream media if you disregard conservative media. This like me saying Biden is disliked by the mainstream media cuz Fox News hates him.

And no, you got brainwashed by youtube videos. Happens a lot, the algorithm thrives off it. Maybe you'll be aware one day.

[1987_Lakers]

And no, you got brainwashed by youtube videos. Happens a lot, the algorithm thrives off it. Maybe you'll be aware one day.

No, I realize this country was in much better hands with Trump compared to a senile Biden who forgets where he is half the time. If it's a race between them two, I'm voting Trump. Only way I vote democrat is if somehow RFK Jr wins the nomination, which I doubt.

What the democratic party has become is an absolute shame, and this is from someone who hated Bush when he was president. Encouraging little kids to change their sex, censorship, Vaccine mandates etc. Tony Soprano was right all along, "If we let this stuff go too far sooner or later we will be fcking dogs".

[RRR3]

No, I realize this country was in much better hands with Trump compared to a senile Biden who forgets where he is half the time. If it's a race between them two, I'm voting Trump. Only way I vote democrat is if somehow RFK Jr wins the nomination, which I doubt.

What the democratic party has become is an absolute shame, and this is from someone who hated Bush when he was president. Encouraging little kids to change their sex, censorship, Vaccine mandates etc. Tony Sopranos was right all along, "If we let this stuff go too far sooner or later we will be fcking dogs".
People don't realize they're brainwashed, so how the hell would you know? I didn't back when I was brainwashed to be a liberal and voted Democrat. The problem is the system itself, it's not getting fixed by electing anyone. What's really funny is it's probably someone like Chewing or jstern who got you started on this with their videos :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

People don't realize they're brainwashed, so how the hell would you know? I didn't back when I was brainwashed to be a liberal and voted Democrat. The problem is the system itself, it's not getting fixed by electing anyone.

You still are and do.

[RRR3]

You still are and do.
"Everyone who doesn't like my hero Trump is a Democrat"



:facepalm




****ing IQ of a rock. Lizard people :roll: :roll: :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

"Everyone who doesn't like my hero Trump is a Democrat"



:facepalm




****ing IQ of a rock. Lizard people :roll: :roll: :roll:


Speaking of IQ of a rock.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514059-DeMarcus-Cousins-back-to-the-Warriors
:oldlol:

You take this place way too seriously. It really feels like you actually hate most of the people you have a disagreement with on here. Chill out.

[RRR3]

Speaking of IQ of a rock.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514059-DeMarcus-Cousins-back-to-the-Warriors
:oldlol:

You take this place way too seriously. It really feels like you actually hate most of the people you have a disagreement with on here. Chill out.
I'm pretty sure falling for a fake twitter account is less dumb than believing in lizard people, pops. I don't hate you, you just say a lot of silly stuff, some of it so ridiculous I'm not sure you aren't trolling. Continue thinking Trump is gonna save us from the space lasers or mole people or whatever. Start reading leftist/anti-capitalist literature if you want to really understand how the world works and has worked for a while now (don't read anything by Marxist-Leninists or Maoists, they're utter morons.). Trust me, this literature isn't gonna change your mind on the Democrats if that's what you're worried about. That's not the point. Democrats are just one part of the problem.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm pretty sure falling for a fake twitter account is less dumb than believing in lizard people, pops.

This is how the world works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZOi8EgcYM

Deal with it.

[jstern]

People don't realize they're brainwashed, so how the hell would you know? I didn't back when I was brainwashed to be a liberal and voted Democrat. The problem is the system itself, it's not getting fixed by electing anyone. What's really funny is it's probably someone like Chewing or jstern who got you started on this with their videos :roll:

You're doing a lot of projection here (a common human tendency). You're also projecting that he was brainwashed due to watching embedded YouTube videos from Patrick Chewing and I.

It's very interesting, the RRR3 personality. Perhaps this must be why you're so into labels and ideologies (Communists, Anarchist, Nazi, Fascism, etc). Certain people just use their common sense when listening to arguments and don't rely on labels. You seem to have chosen your labels as if you were shopping for them on Amazon and then being all about it. While most people might I agree and disagree with certain aspects of things.

[RRR3]

This is how the world works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZOi8EgcYM

Deal with it.
You realize that’s a fictional movie that was allegorical right? Carpenter was criticizing government.

[1987_Lakers]

You realize that’s a fictional movie that was allegorical right? Carpenter was criticizing government.

You don't say. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

You don't say. :oldlol:
Ok, well while his overarching point is true, it doesn't mean you should take it literally.

[1987_Lakers]

You're doing a lot of projection here (a common human tendency). You're also projecting that he was brainwashed due to watching embedded YouTube videos from Patrick Chewing and I.

It's very interesting, the RRR3 personality. Perhaps this must be why you're so into labels and ideologies (Communists, Anarchist, Nazi, Fascism, etc). Certain people just use their common sense when listening to arguments and don't rely on labels. You seem to have chosen your labels as if you were shopping for them on Amazon and then being all about it. While most people might I agree and disagree with certain aspects of things.

I think all of us are programmed to some degree. Whether it's by religion or to a political party, etc. I agree that if you put a label on everything, the more susceptible you are to being closed minded/programmed. All of us do it to some degree, some more than others.

btw I don't think I've ever watched anything Patrick or Jstern have posted, maybe Jstern, but don't really rememeber. I do remember showing Jstern "Century of Self" documentary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04&t

[Patrick Chewing]

RRR3 blaming me when someone else gets red-pilled.

I'm minding my own business over here.

[BurningHammer]

This is how the world works.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZOi8EgcYM

Deal with it.

This is how the world should work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_no1MeL0Wk

Deal with it. :pimp:

[1987_Lakers]

This is how the world should work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_no1MeL0Wk

Deal with it. :pimp:

:oldlol:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie: When did Cheney lie?

"Two days ahead of schedule, the world witnessed the arrival of a free and sovereign Iraq."--Darth Cheney

[Baller234]

You’re obviously upset Biden gets all the credit and Trump doesn’t get any. It’s clear as day. You’re enraged because the liberal media doesn’t like your boy. You constantly whine about how unfair Trump’s life is. You still haven’t addressed the fact that Trump made the war have even more soldiers for years before he did anything. Let’s say Trump and no one else gets all the credit for Afgahanistan. Cool he still took years to stop making it worse and continuing it. And you really can’t claim Trump is more anti-war than Biden considering Trump increased drone strikes massively from Obama (while Biden has decreased them a ton) and was guilty of shenafinas in Niger as well. Attempted with Venezuela too. Biden has not started any wars either so they’re even there.

This isn't true though. Everyone knows it was Orange Face that negotiated the withdrawal. I actually haven't seen anyone but you try and attribute that feat to Brandon. The only thing people associate with Brandon when it comes to the withdrawal was his disastrous execution, which was heavily publicized.

Only a diehard liberal anti-Trumper like yourself would even think to say something as foolish as "Brandon ended the Afghanistan war...".

[Baller234]

Sometimes, but Trump is loved by half the mainstream media so he doesn't qualify either. Don't make me pull up your old posts shitting on Trump.

I already pulled up an old post where you caped for Liz Cheney because you were so triggered that Trump supporters were making fun of her.

[RRR3]

I already pulled up an old post where you caped for Liz Cheney because you were so triggered that Trump supporters were making fun of her.
Now you’re literally just lying. Me caping for Liz Cheney lmfao. Holy shit. Stop making stuff up you liar.

[Baller234]

Now you’re literally just lying. Me caping for Liz Cheney lmfao. Holy shit. Stop making stuff up you liar.

Ahem (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514045-Meeting-with-Bush-Scene-Vice-(2018)&p=14829803&viewfull=1#post14829803)

^ Look at you getting all upset because the evil MAGA trumpers were daring to celebrate the political demise of an evil fascist.

"YOU ONLY HATE LIZ BECAUSE TRUMP HATES HER!!"

:oldlol:

[RRR3]

Ahem (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514045-Meeting-with-Bush-Scene-Vice-(2018)&p=14829803&viewfull=1#post14829803)

^ Look at you getting all upset because the evil MAGA trumpers were daring to celebrate the political demise of an evil fascist.

"YOU ONLY HATE LIZ BECAUSE TRUMP HATES HER!!"

:oldlol:
I think you’re literally retarded. Pointing out the irony in a situation is not defending Liz Cheney :lol

She literally voted with Trump 93% of the time. She agrees with you on basically everything. That was my point-it’s ironic to pretend like you have anything against her other than her opportunistically going against Trump. What policy of Liz Cheney’s do you not like? Cuz so far from out interactions it seems like you love her kind of politics.

[Baller234]

I think you’re literally retarded. Pointing out the irony in a situation is not defending Liz Cheney :lol

She literally voted with Trump 93% of the time. She agrees with you on basically everything. That was my point-it’s ironic to pretend like you have anything against her other than her opportunistically going against Trump. What policy of Liz Cheney’s do you not like? Cuz so far from out interactions it seems like you love her kind of politics.

So then how come you weren't partaking in the celebration then with the other posters? She's an evil fascist right? Her father was the antichrist right? Shouldn't you be happy about that?

How come your only post in that thread is about how awful Chewing is?

I dunno, seems a little weird. Almost as if you are triggered by anything that can even be remotely interpreted as a win for the MAGA crowd.

[Patrick Chewing]

RRR3 is not an Anarchist or whatever he calls himself. This guy has a (D) next to his voter's registration card and it's no secret.

[RRR3]

So then how come you weren't partaking in the celebration then with the other posters? She's an evil fascist right? Her father was the antichrist right? Shouldn't you be happy about that?

How come your only post in that thread is about how awful Chewing is?

I dunno, seems a little weird. Almost as if you are triggered by anything that can even be remotely interpreted as a win for the MAGA crowd.
You’re so desperate it’s honestly pathetic. Liz Cheney is part of your crowd that’s what you’re not getting :hammerhead: I just find it funny when you guys eat your own. She was a hero to you guys before she broke with Trump. Pretending you never liked her now is sad. Heck, one day maybe you’ll turn on Trump too and pretend you never liked him either.

[RRR3]

RRR3 is not an Anarchist or whatever he calls himself. This guy has a (D) next to his voter's registration card and it's no secret.
You are too stupid to grasp that more than two political ideologies exist. Everything has to be red or blue for you. No in between. No nuance. The funniest shit is I’ve seen you and your loverboy baller234 call Norcaliblunt a liberal Democrat team blue guy as well when he also has many opinions no loyal democrat has. In fact many of his opinions are different from mine. But you guys claim he and I are the same because we shit on you guys. “Everyone who doesn’t like me is a Democrat” is kindergarten logic. The only people you guys accept are people who are on your side. Everyone else is categorized as a Democrat. I’m not about to start agreeing with your awful takes, so I guess you’re going to keep deluding yourself into thinking this nonsense. The funny thing is you’d call Cornel West a Democrat too I bet even though he’s running Green.

[Patrick Chewing]

You are too stupid to grasp that more than two political ideologies exist. Everything has to be red or blue for you. No in between. No nuance. The funniest shit is I’ve seen you and your loverboy baller234 call Norcaliblunt a liberal Democrat team blue guy as well when he also has many opinions no loyal democrat has. In fact many of his opinions are different from mine. But you guys claim he and I are the same because we shit on you guys. “Everyone who doesn’t like me is a Democrat” is kindergarten logic. The only people you guys accept are people who are on your side. Everyone else is categorized as a Democrat. I’m not about to start agreeing with your awful takes, so I guess you’re going to keep deluding yourself into thinking this nonsense. The funny thing is you’d call Cornel West a Democrat too I bet even though he’s running Green.

meltdown :lol

[Baller234]

You’re so desperate it’s honestly pathetic. Liz Cheney is part of your crowd that’s what you’re not getting :hammerhead: I just find it funny when you guys eat your own. She was a hero to you guys before she broke with Trump. Pretending you never liked her now is sad. Heck, one day maybe you’ll turn on Trump too and pretend you never liked him either.

You keep conflating the old republican party with MAGA. Liz Cheney is clearly not MAGA. Liz Cheney represents her father and her father represents the old guard. MAGA isn't the old guard.

You're the one that's being two faced and hypocritical here. You should abhor Liz Cheney. She represents everything you claim to oppose. You just recently referred to her father as the antichrist and you even insinuated he was far worse than Trump.

Yet when it came to Liz Cheney losing her primary, there wasn't a peep from you. Especially when compared to the time and energy you put into hating Orange Face. In fact you only commented in that thread in the first place so you can rain on Chewing's parade. Outside of that you had nothing else to say.

I have zero doubt that if Liz Cheney had actually won her primary, you'd have been gloating. Probably something along the lines of " DERR LOLOL MAGA CANDIDATES CAN'T EVEN BEAT AN AWFUL FASCIST!!! DERRR LOLOLOL"

You really aren't fooling anyone.

[RRR3]

meltdown :lol
^Diabetes.

[RRR3]

You keep conflating the old republican party with MAGA. Liz Cheney is clearly not MAGA. Liz Cheney represents her father and her father represents the old guard. MAGA isn't the old guard.

You're the one that's being two faced and hypocritical here. You should abhor Liz Cheney. She represents everything you claim to oppose. You just recently referred to her father as the antichrist and you even insinuated he was far worse than Trump.

Yet when it came to Liz Cheney losing her primary, there wasn't a peep from you. Especially when compared to the time and energy you put into hating Orange Face. In fact you only commented in that thread in the first place so you can rain on Chewing's parade. Outside of that you had nothing else to say.

I have zero doubt that if Liz Cheney had actually won her primary, you'd have been gloating. Probably something along the lines of " DERR LOLOL MAGA CANDIDATES CAN'T EVEN BEAT AN AWFUL FASCIST!!! DERRR LOLOLOL"

You really aren't fooling anyone.
The “old guard” is the same as the “new guard”, Trump and his buddies are just louder and ruder. Keep being duped into thinking he isn’t almost exactly the same as the Cheneys policy wise though. Trump the Clinton fanboy is worried about corruption guys! :roll:

[Baller234]

The “old guard” is the same as the “new guard”, Trump and his buddies are just louder and ruder. Keep being duped into thinking he isn’t almost exactly the same as the Cheneys policy wise though. Trump the Clinton fanboy is worried about corruption guys! :roll:

I can't anymore with this blatant autism. Regardless of policy, it's clear that Orange Face is not on the same team as the Cheney family.

Yet for some reason you can't even pretend to hate the Cheneys as much as you hate Trump. It bothered you that another poster was celebrating her defeat.

[RRR3]

I can't anymore with this blatant autism. Regardless of policy, it's clear that Orange Face is not on the same team as the Cheney family.

Yet for some reason you can't even pretend to hate the Cheneys as much as you hate Trump. It bothered you that another poster was celebrating her defeat.
Considering you don’t even think climate change is an issue, it’s adorable you think you’re intelligent enough to discern my motivations for posting. Looking forward to your next post in which you somehow bring up trans people.


Also “regardless of policy” :roll:

Policy is what matters you idiot. Not feelings. That’s how Obama got elected and lauded as a progressive hero despite being right wing in reality.

[Baller234]

Considering you don’t even think climate change is an issue, it’s adorable you think you’re intelligent enough to discern my motivations for posting. Looking forward to your next post in which you somehow bring up trans people.


Also “regardless of policy” :roll:

Policy is what matters you idiot. Not feelings. That’s how Obama got elected and lauded as a progressive hero despite being right wing in reality.

I only bring up trans people because you agree with them.

You simply believing that a man can become a woman disqualifies your opinion on 100% of all things.

[RRR3]

I only bring up trans people because you agree with them.

You simply believing that a man can become a woman disqualifies your opinion on 100% of all things.
You are currently in another thread defending Biden because I dared criticize him in a non republican approved way :lol


Also what the hell are you going to do when scientists are able to enable trans women to give birth? You’ll have no arguments left then.

[Baller234]

You are currently in another thread defending Biden because I dared criticize him in a non republican approved way


Also what the hell are you going to do when scientists are able to enable trans women to give birth? You’ll have no arguments left then.

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[RRR3]

What the...


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At that point, if a trans woman looks, acts and gives birth like a cis woman what are you even complaining about? Society is obviously going to see them as a woman just of appearance and treat them accordingly.

[Baller234]

https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/08/23/uterus-transplants-are-already-a-reality-what-does-it-mean-for-transgender-women-getting-p


At that point, if a trans woman looks, acts and gives birth like a cis woman what are you even complaining about? Society is obviously going to see them as a woman just of appearance and treat them accordingly.

What is a woman?

What is the difference between a woman and a man?

[RRR3]

What is a woman?

What is the difference between a woman and a man?
I figured you couldn’t answer that.

[Baller234]

I figured you couldn’t answer that.

Actually no.

I just refuse to engage further with you on this topic until you can clearly define what a man or a woman is. It wouldn't make sense for either of us to have a discussion about men and women without first being able to agree on what those words actually mean.

For example you said "society would see them as a woman..."

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. The word woman could have any number of connotations according to you. Can you clarify?

What is a woman?

[RRR3]

Actually no.

I just refuse to engage further with you on this topic until you can clearly define what a man or a woman is. It wouldn't make sense for either of us to have a discussion about men and women without first being able to agree on what those words actually mean.

For example you said "society would see them as a woman..."

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. The word woman could have any number of connotations according to you. Can you clarify?

What is a woman?
Whether or not you consider trans women “real women”tm or not if someone has fully transitioned, especially if they started early, you likely perceive them as a woman and treat them as such. Unless they tell you there were trans you wouldn’t know. Shawkfactory had this same discussion with you. Yes there are only 3 sexes (not two, for some reason you guys always forget about intersex people lol) but each sex has traditionally come with societal perceptions and expectations. These have become known as gender roles. If someone appears and acts like what you consider a woman to be like, you will believe they are a woman. It’s perception.


Tl;dr=sex and gender aren’t their same thing, definitions evolve

[Baller234]

Whether or not you consider trans women “real women”tm or not if someone has fully transitioned, especially if they started early, you likely perceive them as a woman and treat them as such. Unless they tell you there were trans you wouldn’t know. Shawkfactory had this same discussion with you. Yes there are only 3 sexes (not two, for some reason you guys always forget about intersex people lol) but each sex has traditionally come with societal perceptions and expectations. These have become known as gender roles. If someone appears and acts like what you consider a woman to be like, you will believe they are a woman. It’s perception.


Tl;dr=sex and gender aren’t their same thing, definitions evolve

1. You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask if you trans women and real women were the same, I asked you to tell me what a woman is. You still haven't done that.

2. If there are three sexes and not two, then what does the B in LGBTQ stand for? How can bisexuals be a thing if there are three sexes and sex isn't binary? Yikes, doesn't sound very inclusive. Shouldn't they be considered trisexuals or multisexuals?



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[RRR3]

1. You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask if you trans women and real women were the same, I asked you to tell me what a woman is. You still haven't done that.

2. If there are three sexes and not two, then what does the B in LGBTQ stand for? How can bisexuals be a thing if there are three sexes and sex isn't binary? Yikes, doesn't sound very inclusive. Shouldn't they be considered trisexuals or multisexuals?



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Funny you were unaware of these people existing. Responded to nothing I said as usual. This is what you do you just refuse to answer and try to get your opponent to answer instead. Juvenile tactic. Respond to what I said, that’s all you’re getting from here on out.

[Baller234]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Funny you were unaware of these people existing. Responded to nothing I said as usual. This is what you do you just refuse to answer and try to get your opponent to answer instead. Juvenile tactic. Respond to what I said, that’s all you’re getting from here on out.

I can't respond to your question until you tell us what a woman is.

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[Nanners]

I think all of us are programmed to some degree. Whether it's by religion or to a political party, etc. I agree that if you put a label on everything, the more susceptible you are to being closed minded/programmed. All of us do it to some degree, some more than others.

btw I don't think I've ever watched anything Patrick or Jstern have posted, maybe Jstern, but don't really rememeber. I do remember showing Jstern "Century of Self" documentary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04&t

:applause:

everyone should watch this documentary... even if the author is funded by the BBC (aka the uk govenment)

[RRR3]

I can't respond to your question until you tell us what a woman is.

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Respond to the post.

[Patrick Chewing]

A woman is a female human with a v@gina. Not a dick.

[RRR3]

A woman is a female human with a v@gina. Not a dick.
So what if a trans woman has a vajina?

[Baller234]

So what if a trans woman has a vajina?

It means you finally have a chance to score.

[RRR3]

He still can’t respond. Sad.

[Patrick Chewing]

So what if a trans woman has a vajina?

There is no such thing as a trans woman. You can't become something you are not.

[Lebron23]

I don't like George Bush policy because some of his dad's friend only used him. but he seems like a cool guy.

[diamenz]

So what if a trans woman has a vajina?

would you fuc|>?

[Baller234]

would you fuc|>?

Excellent question.

Retard Retard Retard 3? Your response?

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't like George Bush policy because some of his dad's friend only used him. but he seems like a cool guy.

Ur Engrish tweacher failed you

[1987_Lakers]

I don't like George Bush policy because some of his dad's friend only used him. but he seems like a cool guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUcyfKESts

[Lebron23]

Ur Engrish tweacher failed you

I was drunk when I wrote it. Go F yourself

[RRR3]

Excellent question.

Retard Retard Retard 3? Your response?
Respond to my points.

[Baller234]

Respond to my points.

I can't respond to your point about what a women is until I know what you mean by the word woman.

But if trans women are women, and you consider yourself a heterosexual male, why would you be ashamed of having sex with a trans woman? We can see that you don't want to answer the question. Are you embarrassed?

[RRR3]

I can't respond to your point about what a women is until I know what you mean by the word woman.

But if trans women are women, and you consider yourself a heterosexual male, why would you be ashamed of having sex with a trans woman? We can see that you don't want to answer the question. Are you embarrassed?
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[1987_Lakers]

So what if a trans woman has a vajina?

Not possible, you can't even reproduce even with surgery. You are born a man or a woman. End of subject.

[RRR3]

Not possible, you can't even reproduce even with surgery. You are born a man or a woman. End of subject.
Not possible now you’re right. Science is always progressing though which was the point. Also some people are born intersex.

[Baller234]

Not possible now you’re right. Science is always progressing though which was the point. Also some people are born intersex.

You lose your right to appeal to science if you refuse to acknowledge the biological differences between men and women.

[RRR3]

You lose your right to appeal to science if you refuse to acknowledge the biological differences between men and women.
Respond to the points.