Im Still Ballin
09-18-2023, 07:25 PM
These old Usenet groups from the '80s, '90s, and '00s are a gold mine. I'm currently checking out what posters were saying in that 1993-1994 Bulls season without MJ. I came across this McHale-Pippen comparison thread. You know I had to share it.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.basketball.pro/c/dV7ABesaWrk/m/nn1rYC9xkT0J
Face it. They(the Jordan Bulls) only had one truly great player.
These are the words of the most jealous NBA player ever,U guessed it right,
McHale.
Pippen obviously pissed him off or should I say Pippen pissed on him.
-Reddy
I know you can't be saying Scottie Pippen is even close to being as
good as McHale. I know you can't possibly think the 90's Bulls are better
than the 80's Celtics. The Bulls only won three because expansion diluted
the league. The Celtics had the Lakers, Rockets, Pistons and an overall more
talented league to deal with. Kevin Mchale was the third best player on the
Celtics and in his prime was ten times better than the Bulls BEST
player--Scottie "I'm over rated" Pippen. Can you honestly say that if a head
to head match were possible the Bulls would win?! Please!
Evan
God, where do these losers crawl out from this time of year.
First of all, let me say that I am a Knick fan, and hate the Bulls and
Celtics equally, so my opinion is unbiased.
a) Scottie Pippen blows away McHale.
b) It is pretty meaningless to compare the greatness of teams from
different periods since the game is continuing to progress, but if
you took the mid 80's Celtics and time travelled with them to play the
Bulls in last years playoffs head to head, I can confidently say that
the Celts would get their butts kicked all over the place. 10 years
has made a big difference in physical conditioning, athleticism, and
NBA defense. At the same time, I don't think it's a contradiction to
say that I feel the Celtics were a greater team _in_their_day_.
> a) Scottie Pippen blows away McHale.
Well, I wouldn't put it this strongly. McHale was
pretty incredible and a different type of player than Pippen.
Still, those who think Pippen is over-rated are boneheads.
Scottie Pippen, I had to admit last year in the playoffs, is a
great basketball player. A jerk, but a great basketball
player. McHale was a great basketball player too.
> you took the mid 80's Celtics and time travelled with them to play the
> Bulls in last years playoffs head to head, I can confidently say that
> the Celts would get their butts kicked all over the place. 10 years
> has made a big difference in physical conditioning, athleticism, and
I disagree. How can you say that any teteam with a
front line of Parish, McHale and Larry Bird would get its butt
kicked all over the place??? Bird is only one of the three
greatest players of all time. McHale is one of the greatest
players since 1980, and Parish probably the most over-rated
center of our era. Add Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge int he
backcourt, and a changing cast of quality backups and you have
a team as good as any today.
|> I know you can't be saying Scottie Pippen is even close to being as
|> good as McHale. I know you can't possibly think the 90's Bulls are better
Yes, he is saying that and I agree. I was a BIG Celtics fan in the 80's, mainly
because I hated the Lakers. I think that Bird, the Chief, HcHale and the others
were great, HcHale had some of the best inside moves I've ever seen. BTW, I've
seen some of those moves emulated by Kukoc. But, Pippen can do things that
McHale never even thought of doing. One - on - One, they probably would have a
hard time guarding each other. Pippen would blow by McHale in the open court or
stay outside and bomb away. McHale would go inside and crank on Scottie. They
are both great players. Don't be jealous. :-)
|> than the 80's Celtics. The Bulls only won three because expansion diluted
The Celtics were great because they had a great team. Ditto for the Bulls. If
anything, rules changes, draft changes and expansion made it more difficult to
dominate.
|> the league. The Celtics had the Lakers, Rockets, Pistons and an overall more
|> talented league to deal with. Kevin Mchale was the third best player on the
|> Celtics and in his prime was ten times better than the Bulls BEST
|> player--Scottie "I'm over rated" Pippen. Can you honestly say that if a head
Your prejudice is showing, MJ was the best player ever, and even he wasn't 10
times better!
|> to head match were possible the Bulls would win?! Please!
Good chance of it, yes. Every series would go 7 games, difficult to say after 5
years who would have more championships, maybe the Celtics, maybe not.
DCT
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.basketball.pro/c/dV7ABesaWrk/m/nn1rYC9xkT0J
Face it. They(the Jordan Bulls) only had one truly great player.
These are the words of the most jealous NBA player ever,U guessed it right,
McHale.
Pippen obviously pissed him off or should I say Pippen pissed on him.
-Reddy
I know you can't be saying Scottie Pippen is even close to being as
good as McHale. I know you can't possibly think the 90's Bulls are better
than the 80's Celtics. The Bulls only won three because expansion diluted
the league. The Celtics had the Lakers, Rockets, Pistons and an overall more
talented league to deal with. Kevin Mchale was the third best player on the
Celtics and in his prime was ten times better than the Bulls BEST
player--Scottie "I'm over rated" Pippen. Can you honestly say that if a head
to head match were possible the Bulls would win?! Please!
Evan
God, where do these losers crawl out from this time of year.
First of all, let me say that I am a Knick fan, and hate the Bulls and
Celtics equally, so my opinion is unbiased.
a) Scottie Pippen blows away McHale.
b) It is pretty meaningless to compare the greatness of teams from
different periods since the game is continuing to progress, but if
you took the mid 80's Celtics and time travelled with them to play the
Bulls in last years playoffs head to head, I can confidently say that
the Celts would get their butts kicked all over the place. 10 years
has made a big difference in physical conditioning, athleticism, and
NBA defense. At the same time, I don't think it's a contradiction to
say that I feel the Celtics were a greater team _in_their_day_.
> a) Scottie Pippen blows away McHale.
Well, I wouldn't put it this strongly. McHale was
pretty incredible and a different type of player than Pippen.
Still, those who think Pippen is over-rated are boneheads.
Scottie Pippen, I had to admit last year in the playoffs, is a
great basketball player. A jerk, but a great basketball
player. McHale was a great basketball player too.
> you took the mid 80's Celtics and time travelled with them to play the
> Bulls in last years playoffs head to head, I can confidently say that
> the Celts would get their butts kicked all over the place. 10 years
> has made a big difference in physical conditioning, athleticism, and
I disagree. How can you say that any teteam with a
front line of Parish, McHale and Larry Bird would get its butt
kicked all over the place??? Bird is only one of the three
greatest players of all time. McHale is one of the greatest
players since 1980, and Parish probably the most over-rated
center of our era. Add Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge int he
backcourt, and a changing cast of quality backups and you have
a team as good as any today.
|> I know you can't be saying Scottie Pippen is even close to being as
|> good as McHale. I know you can't possibly think the 90's Bulls are better
Yes, he is saying that and I agree. I was a BIG Celtics fan in the 80's, mainly
because I hated the Lakers. I think that Bird, the Chief, HcHale and the others
were great, HcHale had some of the best inside moves I've ever seen. BTW, I've
seen some of those moves emulated by Kukoc. But, Pippen can do things that
McHale never even thought of doing. One - on - One, they probably would have a
hard time guarding each other. Pippen would blow by McHale in the open court or
stay outside and bomb away. McHale would go inside and crank on Scottie. They
are both great players. Don't be jealous. :-)
|> than the 80's Celtics. The Bulls only won three because expansion diluted
The Celtics were great because they had a great team. Ditto for the Bulls. If
anything, rules changes, draft changes and expansion made it more difficult to
dominate.
|> the league. The Celtics had the Lakers, Rockets, Pistons and an overall more
|> talented league to deal with. Kevin Mchale was the third best player on the
|> Celtics and in his prime was ten times better than the Bulls BEST
|> player--Scottie "I'm over rated" Pippen. Can you honestly say that if a head
Your prejudice is showing, MJ was the best player ever, and even he wasn't 10
times better!
|> to head match were possible the Bulls would win?! Please!
Good chance of it, yes. Every series would go 7 games, difficult to say after 5
years who would have more championships, maybe the Celtics, maybe not.
DCT