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Real Men Wear Green
09-22-2023, 04:27 PM
The Democrats really should deal with Senator Menendez. Durbin just came out strong on Clarence Thomas. And he's probably right but let's not ignore how dirty Menendez looks right now. Even if they don't care about the moral issue they should at least realize that if he gets to run a reelection campaign he will cost them a seat.

RRR3
09-22-2023, 04:32 PM
The Democratic establishment making intelligent decisions is unlikely to happen :lol

bladefd
09-22-2023, 06:42 PM
Guy is a fraud. I hope he doesn't re-run and leaves office for good.

Real Men Wear Green
09-22-2023, 07:31 PM
Guy is a fraud. I hope he doesn't re-run and leaves office for good.

The Democrats should cast him out but he may have dirt on them that keeps them from doing the obvious. If they could get him to resign the Democrat governor picks his replacement and even if he won't leave voluntarily they could expel him for corruption. The only thing leaving him in power does is potentially lose a seat they should never lose. But that's only true if he doesn't have some dirt on them.

Patrick Chewing
09-23-2023, 10:04 AM
"In the interest of fairness" :roll:


He should step down? What? That guy is going straight to jail.

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 10:54 AM
"In the interest of fairness" :roll:


He should step down? What? That guy is going straight to jail.

After a court case that will take a year... or years...or however long it ends up taking...meanwhile he will still be in congress if he doesn't resign or get forced out. Now go away if you can't be bothered to educate yourself before mouthing off.

Hey Yo
09-23-2023, 11:13 AM
So his business dealings went through his wife first and then to him?


Sound familiar, board democommies??

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 11:18 AM
So his business dealings went through his wife first and then to him?


Sound familiar, board democommies??

The last president had a whole business empire run through his immediate family so, yes, it does.

Hey Yo
09-23-2023, 11:21 AM
They found DNA evidence on the envelopes pretty quick, yet still haven't determined if there's DNA on the bag of cocaine found at the WH.

Hey Yo
09-23-2023, 11:24 AM
The last president had a whole business empire run through his immediate family so, yes, it does.
LOL @ defending the Biden crime family. Bad enough you voted for the senile **** and definitely dumb enough to vote for him again.

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 11:25 AM
They found DNA evidence on the envelopes pretty quick, yet still haven't determined if there's DNA on the bag of cocaine found at the WH.

Well that's interesting in a completely irrelevant kind of way.

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 11:26 AM
LOL @ defending the Biden crime family. Bad enough you voted for the senile **** and definitely dumb enough to vote for him again.

Where in that post is a defense of the Bidens? Where have you ever seen me defend Hunter Biden? You are imagining crap and then arguing with it. You may need mental help.

Hey Yo
09-23-2023, 11:34 AM
Where in that post is a defense of the Bidens? Where have you ever seen me defend Hunter Biden? You are imagining crap and then arguing with it. You may need mental help.

With you quickly to bring up the ex-president while the current president and his son are doing the exact same thing the Menendez's are being charged with.

Time to open your eyes and ears, chico.

Patrick Chewing
09-23-2023, 11:35 AM
"In the spirit of fairness"


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHGIBBWX5lg/XiETEVi9SZI/AAAAAAAAezQ/aHQeKCeJn7EVfg2-XfL-fYjHjSRmCtksACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/giphy.gif

Baller234
09-23-2023, 11:36 AM
Where in that post is a defense of the Bidens? Where have you ever seen me defend Hunter Biden? You are imagining crap and then arguing with it. You may need mental help.

Who did you vote for in 2020? Which corrupt criminal?

Media Moderator
09-23-2023, 11:42 AM
In the spirit of fairness Democrats have known this guy was corrupt as f**k for 20 years and now all of a sudden you think maybe you should do something about it? :roll:

You even elected him AFTER he had been indicted the first time. So STFU and roll him with like you've been doing the whole time. At this point it's too late to turn back. If Democrats have suddenly developed a sense of consciousness about dirty politicians who take bribes, turn on Biden or just remain silent like you people always have.

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 11:49 AM
With you quickly to bring up the ex-president while the current president and his son are doing the exact same thing the Menendez's are being charged with.

Time to open your eyes and ears, chico.
You asked what we were reminded of. You got your answer. You can think the President is just as guilty but whatever evidence is out there hasn't been strong enough for McCarthy to even think he could bring an impeachment inquiry to a vote even with his Republican majority. And thats not an impeachment, just an inquiry.

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 11:51 AM
Who did you vote for in 2020? Which corrupt criminal?Your mother.

Patrick Chewing
09-23-2023, 12:04 PM
In the spirit of fairness Democrats have known this guy was corrupt as f**k for 20 years and now all of a sudden you think maybe you should do something about it? :roll:

You even elected him AFTER he had been indicted the first time. So STFU and roll him with like you've been doing the whole time. At this point it's too late to turn back. If Democrats have suddenly developed a sense of consciousness about dirty politicians who take bribes, turn on Biden or just remain silent like you people always have.

Yes, Democrats are asking for understanding here in the spirit of fairness......


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHGIBBWX5lg/XiETEVi9SZI/AAAAAAAAezQ/aHQeKCeJn7EVfg2-XfL-fYjHjSRmCtksACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/giphy.gif

Hey Yo
09-23-2023, 12:07 PM
You asked what we were reminded of. You got your answer. You can think the President is just as guilty but whatever evidence is out there hasn't been strong enough for McCarthy to even think he could bring an impeachment inquiry to a vote even with his Republican majority. And thats not an impeachment, just an inquiry.

Trump was already a multimillionaire before his presidency. How did your boy Joe earn his great wealth while being just a lifelong politician?

Media Moderator
09-23-2023, 12:11 PM
Yes, Democrats are asking for understanding here in the spirit of fairness......


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHGIBBWX5lg/XiETEVi9SZI/AAAAAAAAezQ/aHQeKCeJn7EVfg2-XfL-fYjHjSRmCtksACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/giphy.gif

https://media.tenor.com/nmk1aE7XnxwAAAAd/laughing-hysterically-thats-funny.gif

OP is comedy gold. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he did the topic for the humor. However his other topic title below this would have been much better suited here "A quick laugh for you"

Real Men Wear Green
09-23-2023, 12:16 PM
Trump was already a multimillionaire before his presidency. How did your boy Joe earn his great wealth while being just a lifelong politician?

I would imagine he made a lot of money but what are you expecting me to explain? Is there something on his tax returns you don't understand? Do you even know his net worth to be thinking it proves corruption? What do you think I will tell you about that Jim Jordan won't? Kevin McCarthy and the rest have no love for Biden, the reason they haven't impeached him is that they don't think they can make a strong case. All they can do is hope their inquiry uncovers something. So what are you expecting to hear from a random poster on a basketball message board when his political enemies can't even give you this information?

Baller234
09-23-2023, 12:46 PM
Your mother.

Yikes.

Just like I thought, a creepy Brandon supporter.

https://i.gifer.com/HsV.gif


Yuck!

You're disgusting to take this man's boot in your mouth.

bladefd
09-23-2023, 01:09 PM
With you quickly to bring up the ex-president while the current president and his son are doing the exact same thing the Menendez's are being charged with.

Time to open your eyes and ears, chico.

The ex-president is the easiest and first example one would think of. I believe Biden family is pretty corrupt too, but usually not the first example you think of when you think of corruption.

bladefd
09-23-2023, 01:15 PM
I would imagine he made a lot of money but what are you expecting me to explain? Is there something on his tax returns you don't understand? Do you even know his net worth to be thinking it proves corruption? What do you think I will tell you about that Jim Jordan won't? Kevin McCarthy and the rest have no love for Biden, the reason they haven't impeached him is that they don't think they can make a strong case. All they can do is hope their inquiry uncovers something. So what are you expecting to hear from a random poster on a basketball message board when his political enemies can't even give you this information?

Ya, the house Republicans have the majority and have since what? January 2022? They have yet to bring a case or even vote on Biden impeachment. If there was an easy case to be made, they would have done so already

RRR3
09-23-2023, 01:28 PM
Look at you guys arguing over whose team is less corrupt :lol

JohnnySic
09-23-2023, 01:45 PM
Sure, I'll be fair: most GOP suck too. The establishment, RINO's, Neocons, etc.

If you're not America First, you suck.

warriorfan
09-23-2023, 02:02 PM
"In the spirit of fairness"


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHGIBBWX5lg/XiETEVi9SZI/AAAAAAAAezQ/aHQeKCeJn7EVfg2-XfL-fYjHjSRmCtksACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/giphy.gif

:roll:

op is literally insane

Lakers Legend#32
09-24-2023, 04:25 AM
Bob Menendez was caught doing exactly, exactly, exactly what Clarence Thomas was doing.

Nanners
09-24-2023, 07:45 AM
In the spirit of fairness, how about hunter biden is prosecuted for his crack smoking and illegal gun registration the same way that average americans are when they commit the exact same crimes?

Media Moderator
09-24-2023, 11:14 AM
Bob Menendez was caught doing exactly, exactly, exactly what Joe Biden was doing.

Agreed

Lakers Legend#32
09-24-2023, 03:28 PM
Because Senator Menendez is a Democrat, his whole party is telling him to step down.

If he was a Republican, he would be running for president.

bladefd
09-24-2023, 07:08 PM
Because Senator Menendez is a Democrat, his whole party is telling him to step down.

If he was a Republican, he would be running for president.

That is why one party happens to be even worse than the other party. Not that I support a two-party system.

Baller234
09-24-2023, 09:51 PM
That is why one party happens to be even worse than the other party. Not that I support a two-party system.

The democrats and their deep state cohorts staged a fake insurrection using phony actors and government agents. Then they told you it was worse than 9/11.

:oldlol:

RRR3
09-24-2023, 09:59 PM
https://i.ibb.co/sFrLgTP/istockphoto-133998349-612x612.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Baller234
09-24-2023, 11:56 PM
RRR3 you know for a so called "anti-establishment" crusader... you sure are one of the most loyal, narrative swallowing, boot licking stooges I have ever seen.

My opinion of you as a thinker is already low, but if you don't think Ray Epps is a government agent then you really are a mouth dribbling retard. Full stop. Like wayyyy dumber and way more dishonest than previously thought, which is really saying something.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:01 AM
Your definition of anti-establishment is people who agree with you. Which means you think every anarchist and communist is pro-establishment. Which is obviously not true :hammerhead:



Btw all your views are 100% in lockstep with what right-wing media tells people to think. You've never said a SINGLE thing that goes against the right-wing narrative. Not one. I can name tons of things I've said that goes against the liberal narrative (Biden bad, Democrats bad, Democrats did not end covid, guns are good and should not be banned, censorship is bad, prisons shouldn't exist, etc)

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:03 AM
Your definition of anti-establishment is people who agree with you. Which means you think every anarchist and communist is pro-establishment. Which is obviously not true :hammerhead:

You don't think Ray Epps was a government agent.

Your opinion is void. You're an establishment stooge. Be quiet.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:05 AM
copy paste talking points from Tucker Carlson
Didn't read the full post: all your views are 100% in lockstep with what right-wing media tells people to think. You've never said a SINGLE thing that goes against the right-wing narrative. Not one. I can name tons of things I've said that goes against the liberal narrative (Biden bad, Democrats bad, Democrats did not end covid, guns are good and should not be banned, censorship is bad, prisons shouldn't exist, etc). Also you couldn't even respond to what I said. I hate to break it to you but I don't know anyone besides MAGAs who think January 6 was a false flag. This includes my anarchist and socialist friends. By your logic everyone besides MAGA is establishment.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:06 AM
Didn't read the full post: all your views are 100% in lockstep with what right-wing media tells people to think. You've never said a SINGLE thing that goes against the right-wing narrative. Not one. I can name tons of things I've said that goes against the liberal narrative (Biden bad, Democrats bad, Democrats did not end covid, guns are good and should not be banned, censorship is bad, prisons shouldn't exist, etc)

And yet you think corona virus came from a wet market and that Ray Epps was just some random joe instead of a government plant? Lol, okay stooge.

You're a clown, be quiet. Nobody cares what you have to say anymore because you're a liar.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:08 AM
And yet you think corona virus came from a wet market and that Ray Epps was just some random joe instead of a government plant? Lol, okay stooge.

You're a clown, be quiet. Nobody cares what you have to say anymore because you're a liar.
Based on what? When did I say this? You literally make up stuff and then accuse other people of lying and don't see any irony :lol

Find me someone who thinks Ray Epps was a government plant who doesn't suck Trump's ****. Find me a single opinion you have that Tucker Carlson disagrees with.

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 12:09 AM
Didn't read the full post: all your views are 100% in lockstep with what right-wing media tells people to think. You've never said a SINGLE thing that goes against the right-wing narrative. Not one. I can name tons of things I've said that goes against the liberal narrative (Biden bad, Democrats bad, Democrats did not end covid, guns are good and should not be banned, censorship is bad, prisons shouldn't exist, etc). Also you couldn't even respond to what I said. I hate to break it to you but I don't know anyone besides MAGAs who think January 6 was a false flag. This includes my anarchist and socialist friends. By your logic everyone besides MAGA is establishment.

You have no friends. Stop saying that you do.

I just can't understand an anarchist defending the government here and actually supporting the arrest and the insane sentences given those who were arrested for January 6th. You are not anti-establishment, you are PRO GOVERNMENT big time!

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:11 AM
You have no friends. Stop saying that you do.

I just can't understand an anarchist defending the government here and actually supporting the arrest and the insane sentences given those who were arrest for January 6th. You are not anti-establishment, you are PRO GOVERNMENT big time!
Projecting your lack of friends on me again. Poor fatrick :(

Please tell me where I defended the government, arrests or prison sentences, I literally just said prisons shouldn't exist. Not believing Tucker Carlson's conspiracy theories doesn't mean I support whatever your pea sized brain thinks I support.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:11 AM
Based on what? When did I say this? You literally make up stuff and then accuse other people of lying and don't see any irony :lol

Find me someone who thinks Ray Epps was a government plant who doesn't suck Trump's ****. Find me a single opinion you have that Tucker Carlson disagrees with.

Right, because left wing media is definitely going to talk about how their own side staged Jan 6 and had their own agents on the ground escalating the riot. Jeez can't imagine why only right wing media talks about it.

Not going to entertain a good faith debate with someone who can't even admit that Ray Epps was a government agent. If it has to be explained to you, you're either arguing in bad faith or you're a mouth dribbling retard. Either way it would be a waste of time.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:16 AM
Right, because left wing media is definitely going to talk about how their own side staged Jan 6 and had their own agents on the ground escalating the riot. Jeez can't imagine why only right wing media talks about it.

Not going to entertain a good faith debate with someone who can't even admit that Ray Epps was a government agent. If it has to be explained to you, you're either arguing in bad faith or you're a mouth dribbling retard. Either way it would be a waste of time.
I don't expect liberal outlets like CNN or MSNBC to talk about it, but if there was any legitimacy to it, surely someone like Jacobin (socialist), the Anarchist Library (anarchist obviously), or Current Affairs (socialist) would echo what you're saying. But it's the exact opposite: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/melbourne-anarchist-communist-group-the-trump-putsch https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/indigenous-action-gasoline-on-the-fire-the-strategic-opportunity-of-settler-on-settler-violence

You never argue in good faith, so this is an obvious deflection because you can't tell me an original thought you have.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:22 AM
RRR3:

"I'm an anti-establishment anarchist! I hate government!"


Also RRR3:

"The U.S. government would NEVER stage an event like this! Ray Epps is just an innocent man caught up in a crazy right wing conspiracy! There's nothing strange about his involvement whatsoever!"

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 12:24 AM
RRR3:

"I'm an anti-establishment anarchist! I hate government!"


Also RRR3:

"The U.S. government would NEVER stage an event like this! Ray Epps is just an innocent man caught up in a crazy right wing conspiracy! There's nothing strange about his involvement whatsoever!"

Exactly. Dude got caught being a stooge and a phony.


The whole anarchist thing is just a bit and a shtick. It's fake.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:27 AM
Who said Ray Epps was innocent. You're clearly not very good at arguing if you have to put words in your opponents mouths.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:28 AM
Exactly. Dude got caught being a stooge and a phony.


The whole anarchist thing is just a bit and a shtick. It's fake.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/melbourne-anarchist-communist-group-the-trump-putsch https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/indigenous-action-gasoline-on-the-fire-the-strategic-opportunity-of-settler-on-settler-violence


These are common sentiments by anarchists :hammerhead:

You don't talk to anarchists, you don't know what we think

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:31 AM
Who said Ray Epps was innocent. You're clearly not very good at arguing if you have to put words in your opponents mouths.

You tried to infer I was crazy for saying there were government agents on the ground.

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 12:34 AM
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/melbourne-anarchist-communist-group-the-trump-putsch https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/indigenous-action-gasoline-on-the-fire-the-strategic-opportunity-of-settler-on-settler-violence


These are common sentiments by anarchists :hammerhead:

You don't talk to anarchists, you don't know what we think

WTF is that site?? :roll: A putsch? WTF is that??


And again, your ass is ass backwards. The FASCISTS are the ones in DC right now. The FASCISTS are the Democrats. Not Trump and not that grandma who was walking through the Capitol and is now doing 5 years. Not the guy sitting in Pelosi's office. Not the guy carrying the podium and waving to the camera. Fascists? Are you out of your mind?? The fascists are the ones that arrested them and put them in jail for years and years. The Fascists are the ones that killed an unarmed Ashli Babbitt and got away with it.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:35 AM
You tried to infer I was crazy for saying there were government agents on the ground.
I think you're crazy for thinking the Democratic establishment cared enough about a guy who was leaving office (peacefully according to you, remember) to do what you're accusing them of based on stuff you heard from Tucker Carlson. Trump was leaving office, even if I accept your argument that he's some anti-establishment hero, he was no longer an issue at that point unless of course you want to admit he was trying to remain in office? I don't think you do. Ray Epps is a literal member of the Oath Keepers, so very much not an innocent person by any means.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:38 AM
I think you're crazy for thinking the Democratic establishment cared enough about a guy who was leaving office (peacefully according to you, remember) to do what you're accusing them of based on stuff you heard from Tucker Carlson. Trump was leaving office, even if I accept your argument that he's some anti-establishment hero, he was no longer an issue at that point unless of course you want to admit he was trying to remain in office? I don't think you do. Ray Epps is a literal member of the Oath Keepers, so very much not an innocent person by any means.

So then why did he get off with less than a slap on the wrist and why he is the only one?

Don't deflect like a retard, answer the question. Be specific and cite evidence of whatever it is you're going to claim.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:39 AM
WTF is that site?? :roll: A putsch? WTF is that??


And again, your ass is ass backwards. The FASCISTS are the ones in DC right now. The FASCISTS are the Democrats. Not Trump and not that grandma who was walking through the Capitol and is now doing 5 years. Not the guy sitting in Pelosi's office. Not the guy carrying the podium and waving to the camera. Fascists? Are you out of your mind?? The fascists are the ones that arrested them and put them in jail for years and years. The Fascists are the ones that killed an unarmed Ashli Babbitt and got away with it.
It's an anarchist site where anarchist perspectives and literature is shared freely. I'm showing you what anarchists think about this subject. I knew you wouldn't like it because you like to believe that anti-establishment means "agrees with me".
You could argue the Democrats are fascist (they certainly have worked with and helped unequivocal fascists overseas), but it'd be impossible not to argue the Republicans are as well if you do that. Re: Babbitt, yes cops are fascists, so it's weird you freak out when they're criticized.

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 12:41 AM
I think you're crazy for thinking the Democratic establishment cared enough about a guy who was leaving office (peacefully according to you, remember) to do what you're accusing them of based on stuff you heard from Tucker Carlson. Trump was leaving office, even if I accept your argument that he's some anti-establishment hero, he was no longer an issue at that point unless of course you want to admit he was trying to remain in office? I don't think you do. Ray Epps is a literal member of the Oath Keepers, so very much not an innocent person by any means.

If the Democrats didn't care about a guy that was leaving office, then why have they cared so much about him while he's out of office?

The answer is right there in front of you, but you refuse to see it. All these indictments, all these lawsuits, all this negative press and publicity is to keep him out of office. The leading political rival to the establishment is being attacked by all angles, and some of you just sit there with your thumb up your asses and refuse to see it.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:43 AM
So then why did he get off with less than a slap on the wrist and why he is the only one?

Don't deflect like a retard, answer the question. Be specific and cite evidence of whatever it is you're going to claim.
I already answered this before, and I answered it assuming you were telling me the truth (which you never really are) and you still threw a tantrum over my answer (he cut a deal with the government to rat out his Oath Keeper buddies). You're also ignoring that not everyone involved with January 6 was arrested, and Epps did not do anything violent. And he has been charged anyways.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:46 AM
If the Democrats didn't care about a guy that was leaving office, then why have they cared so much about him while he's out of office?

The answer is right there in front of you, but you refuse to see it. All these indictments, all these lawsuits, all this negative press and publicity is to keep him out of office. The leading political rival to the establishment is being attacked by all angles, and some of you just sit there with your thumb up your asses and refuse to see it.
Trump tried to overturn an election in a supposedly democratic country and you think it's surprising that he's being charged with stuff and talked about negatively. Incredible. Even if Trump is in the right as you claim, it's obvious why he'd be getting charged.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:49 AM
I already answered this before, and I answered it assuming you were telling me the truth (which you never really are) and you still threw a tantrum over my answer (he cut a deal with the government to rat out his Oath Keeper buddies). You're also ignoring that not everyone involved with January 6 was arrested, and Epps did not do anything violent. And he has been charged anyways.

And to you I say you are retarded.

They would have had zero effing reason to cut him any type of deal. Everyone they arrested was caught on video, some of them guilty of far less than what Epps did. What the f*** could he possibly give them? WHO the f*** could he possibly give them?

And why wouldn't they still give him jail time regardless? He's a domestic terrorist who just tried to overturn the election. One guy got 20 years for removing a fence. But Ray Epps gives them a couple of random schmucks they could have caught by themselves... and he gets off scot free??

Also, are you saying he was tapped BEFORE the capitol riot or AFTER the capitol riot?

Dude, you're RETARDED.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:56 AM
And to you I say you are retarded.

They would have had zero effing reason to cut him any type of deal. Everyone they arrested was caught on video, some of them guilty of far less than what Epps did. What the f*** could he possibly give them? WHO the f*** could he possibly give them?

And why wouldn't they still give him jail time regardless? He's a domestic terrorist who just tried to overturn the election. One guy got 20 years for removing a fence. But Ray Epps gives them a couple of random schmucks they could have caught by themselves... and he gets off scot free??

Also, are you saying he was tapped BEFORE the capitol riot or AFTER the capitol riot?

Dude, you're RETARDED.
Ray Epps was a member of the Oath Keepers, so he can probably give them quite a lot. Didn't think that through before typing did you? Still waiting for a leftist (as in socialist, communist, anarchist, not liberal) source that agrees with you. After all those ideologies are very much against the liberal establishment. Surely you can't only find sources sympathetic to Trump if it's so obviously true?

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 12:58 AM
Trump tried to overturn an election in a supposedly democratic country and you think it's surprising that he's being charged with stuff and talked about negatively. Incredible. Even if Trump is in the right as you claim, it's obvious why he'd be getting charged.

He did not to try anything like that. Where is the evidence that he tried to do that? How would he do that? By the "find me votes" quote? Ha! That quote doesn't mean jack shit. That quote was made in jest because he knew and we all knew he got screwed with the ballot harvesting scheme and these midnight vote dumps where every vote went to Biden.

If an election was stolen, it was done by the Democrats.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 01:14 AM
Ray Epps was a member of the Oath Keepers, so he can probably give them quite a lot. Didn't think that through before typing did you? Still waiting for a leftist (as in socialist, communist, anarchist, not liberal) source that agrees with you. After all those ideologies are very much against the liberal establishment. Surely you can't only find sources sympathetic to Trump if it's so obviously true?

So Ray Epps was a member of the oath keepers, and he helped orchestrate Jan 6, and is the only person on video actively encouraging people to enter the capitol... but he doesn't spend a single day in jail because he gave up other rioters who would have been caught anyway because they were recorded by surveillance.

Wow, that sounds like a great deal... for Epps. :oldlol:

Also, why aren't you more outraged? You insist that Jan 6 was an insurrection, but you don't seem the slightest bit upset that someone who played a pivitol role isn't being punished for it. Meanwhile you'll cheer on other random people getting 20 years for doing far less.

I don't know, I'm failing to see the logic in your argument. The more likely explanation is that he was a government agent. I mean there's a video of an entire group of people chanting that he's a fed right to his face the night before because he was behaving so suspiciously.

It's really f*cking strange that you're bending over backwards and jumping through hoops of fire to steer people away from the most likely scenario. Even more strange that don't consider it a possibility given that you talk about how much you don't trust the government.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:18 AM
A bunch of copy and paste arguments from Tucker Carlson as usual from fatrick and baller. Can either of them ever have an original thought?

Baller234
09-25-2023, 11:27 AM
A bunch of copy and paste arguments from Tucker Carlson as usual from fatrick and baller. Can either of them ever have an original thought?

Tucker Carlson probably also thinks the sky is blue and water is wet.

You hate Carlson and republicans so much, you feel obligated to disagree even when they point out basic facts. Ray Epps can't be a government agent because that would mean the republicans were right. You can't have that. It goes against your programming.

You aren't principle driven or fact driven at all. You're purely motivated by hate and resentment.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:32 AM
Tucker Carlson probably also thinks the sky is blue and water is wet.

You hate Carlson and republicans so much, you feel obligated to disagree even when they point out basic facts. Ray Epps can't be a government agent because that would mean the republicans were right. You can't have that. It goes against your programming.

You aren't principle driven or fact driven at all. You're purely motivated by hate and resentment.
I agree with Republicans about guns and freedom of speech. You can’t name a single thing you agree with anyone who isn’t MAGA on :lol

Baller234
09-25-2023, 11:41 AM
I agree with Republicans about guns and freedom of speech. You can’t name a single thing you agree with anyone who isn’t MAGA on :lol

So then tell us why republicans are crazy for suggesting Epps is a government agent when he's behaved exactly like a government agent would and is being protected exactly as a government agent would.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:43 AM
I love how you simply can’t name a single opinion you have that isn’t approved by right wing media. Not even one. And then you demand I respond to your conspiracy theories that you got from Tucker Carlson :lol

Baller234
09-25-2023, 11:49 AM
I love how you simply can’t name a single opinion you have that isn’t approved by right wing media. Not even one. And then you demand I respond to your conspiracy theories that you got from Tucker Carlson :lol

It's pure comedy that you claim to be someone who's skeptical of government, yet here you are rushing to their defense like a white knight and insisting they couldn't possibly plan a conspiracy.

Btw, I don't agree with the right's view on abortion. Meanwhile, you're still a boot licking stooge who ignores basic facts because you hate Orange Face with a passion.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:55 AM
It's pure comedy that you claim to be someone who's skeptical of government, yet here you are rushing to their defense like a white knight and insisting they couldn't possibly plan a conspiracy.

Btw, I don't agree with the right's view on abortion. Meanwhile, you're still a boot licking stooge who ignores basic facts because you hate Orange Face with a passion.
So you’re pro-choice? Well you’re less of an NPC than Chewing I’ll give you that.

I’m not saying the government couldn’t plan a conspiracy I’m saying I’m going to find it laughable until you find me a non right wing source that claims it. You guys are proven liars. If it’s such an obvious conspiracy, anti-establishment leftists would be acknowledging it. They aren’t.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:04 PM
So you’re pro-choice? Well you’re less of an NPC than Chewing I’ll give you that.

I’m not saying the government couldn’t plan a conspiracy I’m saying I’m going to find it laughable until you find me a non right wing source that claims it. You guys are proven liars. If it’s such an obvious conspiracy, anti-establishment leftists would be acknowledging it. They aren’t.

Oh wow.

You're all but admitting that you don't believe something unless your favorite people endorse it, regardless of the facts presented or the facts available.

And you have the nerve to call anyone else a sheep. :oldlol:

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:17 PM
Oh wow.

You're all but admitting that you don't believe something unless your favorite people endorse it, regardless of the facts presented or the facts available.

And you have the nerve to call anyone else a sheep. :oldlol:
Why would you expect me to believe something that only people with your political beliefs do? You guys constantly lie and twist the truth and make up wild stories with zero evidence. So you're admitting no one besides MAGA thinks January 6 was a false flag? Interdesting.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 12:29 PM
Why would you expect me to believe something that only people with your political beliefs do? You guys constantly lie and twist the truth and make up wild stories with zero evidence. So you're admitting no one besides MAGA thinks January 6 was a false flag? Interdesting.

So you won't believe evil republicans but you'll believe the evil democrats and their evil propaganda arms.

bladefd
09-25-2023, 12:32 PM
Baller and Chewbacca are complete lunatics :oldlol:

RRR3
09-25-2023, 12:38 PM
So you won't believe evil republicans but you'll believe the evil democrats and their evil propaganda arms.
What democrats am I believing? I’m believing my eyes, homie. We all saw a bunch of trump supporters storm the capitol. It wasn’t democrats.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 06:05 PM
What democrats am I believing? I’m believing my eyes, homie. We all saw a bunch of trump supporters storm the capitol. It wasn’t democrats.

Who was urging people to storm the capitol? Only one person has been caught on video doing so.

Who told security personnel to remove the barricades and allow protestors to enter the building? Who unlocked the doors from the inside?

Tell us your theory, stooge.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 06:52 PM
Who was urging people to storm the capitol? Only one person has been caught on video doing so.

Who told security personnel to remove the barricades and allow protestors to enter the building? Who unlocked the doors from the inside?

Tell us your theory, stooge.
Your hero :roll:


“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”


I like how you try to gaslight me into thinking things that happened didn't occur.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 07:39 PM
RRR3:

"You don't have a single original thought! All of your thoughts and opinions are given to you by right wing media!..."


Also RRR3:

"I don't believe anything until my favorite vloggers tell me it's okay first!..."



:oldlol:

You truly are a walking contradiction. I didn't think it was possible for a human being to lack self awareness on this scale.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 07:50 PM
RRR3:

"You don't have a single original thought! All of your thoughts and opinions are given to you by right wing media!..."


Also RRR3:

"I don't believe anything until my favorite vloggers tell me it's okay first!..."



:oldlol:

You truly are a walking contradiction. I didn't think it was possible for a human being to lack self awareness on this scale.
Deflection because I proved you wrong. Classic.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 07:54 PM
You're incapable of proving anyone wrong because you're a spineless flip flopper. Nobody knows what you really believe because you contradict yourself in post after post.

You're definitely a boot licking stooge though. You love big government and you love punishing dissidents.

Except Ray Epps. He has immunity.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 07:57 PM
You're incapable of proving anyone wrong because you're a spineless flip flopper. Nobody knows what you really believe because you contradict yourself in post after post.

You're definitely a boot licking stooge though. You love big government and you love punishing dissidents.

Except Ray Epps. He has immunity.
Typing through the tears :lol

Let it all out, baller, let it alllllll out.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 07:58 PM
Typing through the tears :lol

Let it all out, baller, let it alllllll out.

Translation:

https://media.tenor.com/I7qgI3hGcM4AAAAM/crying-happy.gif

RRR3
09-25-2023, 08:02 PM
I'm sure it makes you feel better to imagine I'm upset, but your posts are just funny to me. You are so completely divorced from reality it's fascinating. You have accused me (anarchist), norcaliblunt (libertarian), mrfonzworth (independent), and real men wear green (liberal) of all the exact same things despite all of us having different political views simply because all of us disagree with you. You truly can't comprehend that not everyone who disagrees with you is the same. In your mind, there are only two groups of people, the good guys (you and your fellow Trump supporters) and the bad guys (liberals, which is a term you use for anyone who doesn't like Trump). I guess it's comforting for you to adopt such a black and white worldview, but it's very far from reality.

jstern
09-25-2023, 10:31 PM
So Ray Epps was a member of the oath keepers, and he helped orchestrate Jan 6, and is the only person on video actively encouraging people to enter the capitol... but he doesn't spend a single day in jail because he gave up other rioters who would have been caught anyway because they were recorded by surveillance.

Wow, that sounds like a great deal... for Epps. :oldlol:

Also, why aren't you more outraged? You insist that Jan 6 was an insurrection, but you don't seem the slightest bit upset that someone who played a pivitol role isn't being punished for it. Meanwhile you'll cheer on other random people getting 20 years for doing far less.

I don't know, I'm failing to see the logic in your argument. The more likely explanation is that he was a government agent. I mean there's a video of an entire group of people chanting that he's a fed right to his face the night before because he was behaving so suspiciously.

It's really f*cking strange that you're bending over backwards and jumping through hoops of fire to steer people away from the most likely scenario. Even more strange that don't consider it a possibility given that you talk about how much you don't trust the government.

I think Baller234 my truly be, not just the rookie of the year, but the poster of the year. He so easily and clearly sees through the heavily flawed thinking of others, their contradictions, and points them out. Putting who ever he's arguing on the spot. (Of course, then they proceed to ignore all the connecting facts that he spits out and latch on to something irrelevant.)

And that takes more than IQ, it also takes character. One cannot be so mentally honest without integrity.

He has what it takes to be a good ISH detective (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513597-RIP-Lil-Tay&p=14820063&viewfull=1#post14820063).

Patrick Chewing
09-25-2023, 10:37 PM
I'm sure it makes you feel better to imagine I'm upset, but your posts are just funny to me. You are so completely divorced from reality it's fascinating. You have accused me (anarchist), norcaliblunt (libertarian), mrfonzworth (independent), and real men wear green (liberal) of all the exact same things despite all of us having different political views simply because all of us disagree with you. You truly can't comprehend that not everyone who disagrees with you is the same. In your mind, there are only two groups of people, the good guys (you and your fellow Trump supporters) and the bad guys (liberals, which is a term you use for anyone who doesn't like Trump). I guess it's comforting for you to adopt such a black and white worldview, but it's very far from reality.

You replied with an entire paragraph....yeahhhhh you're not upset.

Not in the slightest.

https://24.media.tumblr.com/b59901e12c4c473eb4f581e009dfd5e4/tumblr_mzeonckVsL1ql5yr7o1_400.gif

Baller234
09-25-2023, 10:42 PM
I'm sure it makes you feel better to imagine I'm upset, but your posts are just funny to me. You are so completely divorced from reality it's fascinating. You have accused me (anarchist), norcaliblunt (libertarian), mrfonzworth (independent), and real men wear green (liberal) of all the exact same things despite all of us having different political views simply because all of us disagree with you. You truly can't comprehend that not everyone who disagrees with you is the same. In your mind, there are only two groups of people, the good guys (you and your fellow Trump supporters) and the bad guys (liberals, which is a term you use for anyone who doesn't like Trump). I guess it's comforting for you to adopt such a black and white worldview, but it's very far from reality.

You're not an anarchist though, you're just a pretender. You are woke libtard and an establishment stooge. When I read your posts it is like reading an MSNBC editorial.

You have one philosophy. Orange Face bad.

Baller234
09-25-2023, 10:46 PM
I think Baller234 my truly be, not just the rookie of the year, but the poster of the year. He so easily and clearly sees through the heavily flawed thinking of others, their contradictions, and points them out. Putting who ever he's arguing on the spot. (Of course, then they proceed to ignore all the connecting facts that he spits out and latch on to something irrelevant.)

And that takes more than IQ, it also takes character. One cannot be so mentally honest without integrity.

He has what it takes to be a good ISH detective (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513597-RIP-Lil-Tay&p=14820063&viewfull=1#post14820063).

I appreciate the kind words.

I am only doing the lord's work. These people need to be mocked. It's the only way they'll learn.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:08 PM
You're not an anarchist though, you're just a pretender. You are woke libtard and an establishment stooge. When I read your posts it is like reading an MSNBC editorial.

You have one philosophy. Orange Face bad.
What anarchists have you talked to that don't hate Trump? :yaohappy:

MSNBC famous for being pro gun and anti-Biden :roll:

Baller234
09-25-2023, 11:28 PM
What anarchists have you talked to that don't hate Trump? :yaohappy:

MSNBC famous for being pro gun and anti-Biden :roll:

- You think Trump is the devil and is uniquely worse than every other politician.
- You think Jan 6 was an actual attempt at insurrection.
- You think Ray Epps is a victim of a right wing conspiracy.
- You refuse to acknowledge the left's lies around Covid.
- You think those that were forced to take the vaccine should stfu and get over it.
- You think the intent behind the Floyd riots was justifiable.
- You "believe all women"
- You think small children should be exposed to gender and sex ideology.
- You think men should be able to compete in women's sports.

I could probably add more.

You could absolutely get a job as a contributor for CNN or MSNBC.

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:37 PM
- You think Trump is the devil and is uniquely worse than every other politician. No I don't I've told you numerous politicians I think are worse. DeSantis and Dick Cheney for instance. And definitely some dictators overseas worse than Trump.
- You think Jan 6 was an actual attempt at insurrection. Everyone besides MAGA thinks this :hammerhead:
- You think Ray Epps is a victim of a right wing conspiracy. Victim implies I feel sorry for him, I think it's funny you guys are eating one of your own
- You refuse to acknowledge the left's lies around Covid. No, I'm fully aware they lied about it being over to get Biden more credit. It's still an issue actually, but Biden says it's over so he can get more votes. Not what you wanted to hear I'm sure
- You think those that were forced to take the vaccine should stfu and get over it.I think you should shut up because you're annoying, yes
- You think the intent behind the Floyd riots was justifiable. Understandable does not mean justifiable. Destroying police stations is justifiable yes. Destroying local businesses is foolish and doesn't further the cause, though.
- You "believe all women" This is based on me saying I "suspect" Russell Brand is guilty? :lol I didn't even say he was guilty, it's just suspicious given how often he's been accused and he's had an unsavory reputation for a while. He could be innocent though.
- You think small children should be exposed to gender and sex ideology. If by this you mean I think kids should be taught LGBTQ people exist and are equal to other people, yeah. It's important to teach kids to accept all types of people. I assume you meant something more than this, though, and that's all I meant.
- You think men should be able to compete in women's sports. you realize trans women can take drugs to combat the benefits of being born biologically male to avoid this issue right?

I could probably add more.

You could absolutely get a job as a contributor for CNN or MSNBC.
Answers in bold

Baller234
09-25-2023, 11:48 PM
Answers in bold

Thanks for showing us all that you are 95% in lockstep with Rachel Maddow. :oldlol:

RRR3
09-25-2023, 11:51 PM
Thanks for showing us all that you are 95% in lockstep with Rachel Maddow. :oldlol:
Rachel Maddow thinks we should abolish capitalism?

Baller234
09-26-2023, 12:04 AM
RRR3:

"Fauci is a liar and has blood on his hands from the AIDS pandemic!" (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514055-A-quick-laugh-for-you&p=14830868&viewfull=1#post14830868)


Also RRR3:

"I'm so sick of hearing people complain about having to take the vaccine! Fauci said it's safe and effective god dammit! STFU and move on already!"

RRR3
09-26-2023, 12:08 AM
RRR3:

"Fauci is a liar and has blood on his hands from the AIDS pandemic!" (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514055-A-quick-laugh-for-you&p=14830868&viewfull=1#post14830868)


Also RRR3:

"I'm so sick of hearing people complain about having to take the vaccine! Fauci said it's safe and effective god dammit! STFU and move on already!"
I like how you continuously change the subject when I stump you. And of course you didn't even have a link to the second part, because all I said in reality was that antivaxxers are annoying because they never shut up and bring it up in every topic they can shoehorn it into. Trump also said it was safe and effective, and he's a great truthteller, remember? I'm just following the heroic anti-establishment Trump's recommendations! Based Trump :bowdown:

Baller234
09-26-2023, 12:17 AM
I like how you continuously change the subject when I stump you. And of course you didn't even have a link to the second part, because all I said in reality was that antivaxxers are annoying because they never shut up and bring it up in every topic they can shoehorn it into. Trump also said it was safe and effective, and he's a great truthteller, remember? I'm just following the heroic anti-establishment Trump's recommendations! Based Trump :bowdown:

This is a huge self own. If anything all you're doing is proving that I don't worship Trump. I was never going to take the vaccine just because he said we should. So thanks for only further proving that I am an independent thinker who doesn't worship any one person or any one political party.

And that is beside the point. Trump only ever suggested that people should take the vaccine, he never mandated it. That was Brandon and the democrats. That was Fauci.

I just think it's weird that on one hand you admit that Fauci and the government lied and killed people during the 80's, but you rule out the possibility that they could be guilty of the exact same thing in current year. Meanwhile if anyone dares to show skepticism and doesn't want to be forced to take a needle in their arm, you find that "annoying" and think they should STFU.

Weirddddd.

RRR3
09-26-2023, 12:25 AM
This is a huge self own. If anything all you're doing is proving that I don't worship Trump. I was never going to take the vaccine just because he said we should. So thanks for only further proving that I am an independent thinker who doesn't worship any one person or any one political party.

And that is beside the point. Trump only ever suggested that people should take the vaccine, he never mandated it. That was Brandon and the democrats. That was Fauci.

I just think it's weird that on one hand you admit that Fauci and the government lied and killed people during the 80's, but you rule out the possibility that they could be guilty of the exact same thing in current year. Meanwhile if anyone dares to show skepticism and doesn't want to be forced to take a needle in their arm, you find that "annoying" and think they should STFU.

Weirddddd.
Right-wing media told you the vaccine was bad, though. That's where you get all your opinions. No Trump fans agree with him on vaccines, cuz it's where he broke away from the narrative. Hardly showing you're independent from any other Trump fan.

Fauci could be lying, but I don't know why my doctor would be lying, and that's who I'm listening to here. The data does not support your claims that the vaccine is killing people. I'm sure you will have some cherrypicked nonsense from qanon or Matt Walsh, but you have nothing remotely reputable. The conspiracy theory that I actually believe is that the country developing this vaccine this quickly proves they could cure a lot of diseases if the government was willing to fund it. But they only cured this one because covid shut down the economy and threatened capital. Gonna tell me how that's a Rachel Maddow opinion now? :yaohappy: You're free to complain about the vaccine, but considering how often you guys bring it up, it's a case of broken record. Same with you guys and trans people.

Baller234
09-26-2023, 09:45 AM
It's pretty amusing you think that the elite rulers of this country only shut down the economy out of necessity and not some ulterior motive. As if they really cared about everyone's health and well being and only wanted to save as many lives as they could. You claim to be this anti-government rebel yet here you are once again giving them the benefit of the doubt and presuming that everything was done in good faith.

Newsflash, the people at the tippy top got richer and more powerful during the pandemic. Sure a lot of major retail businesses and sit down restaurants took a hit, but it's not like the CEO's of Dick Sporting Goods and Cheesecake Factory were members of the elite cabal to begin with. Other businesses that were allowed to operate (like Amazon) did just fine. So you can stop pretending that the oligarchs who rule this country were just utterly torn when it came to shutting the country down. YOUR life was affected. YOU couldn't run your business. YOU couldn't get your hair cut or have dinner with your friends. It didn't apply to them.

You are the most lame (and loyal) anti-government anarchist I have ever seen. You wholly trust the government so long as you get to feel like you are opposing the bad guys. I bet you were one of those people who loved Fauci at first and wore two masks when you were alone in your car.

RRR3
09-26-2023, 01:36 PM
It's pretty amusing you think that the elite rulers of this country only shut down the economy out of necessity and not some ulterior motive. As if they really cared about everyone's health and well being and only wanted to save as many lives as they could. You claim to be this anti-government rebel yet here you are once again giving them the benefit of the doubt and presuming that everything was done in good faith.

Newsflash, the people at the tippy top got richer and more powerful during the pandemic. Sure a lot of major retail businesses and sit down restaurants took a hit, but it's not like the CEO's of Dick Sporting Goods and Cheesecake Factory were members of the elite cabal to begin with. Other businesses that were allowed to operate (like Amazon) did just fine. So you can stop pretending that the oligarchs who rule this country were just utterly torn when it came to shutting the country down. YOUR life was affected. YOU couldn't run your business. YOU couldn't get your hair cut or have dinner with your friends. It didn't apply to them.

You are the most lame (and loyal) anti-government anarchist I have ever seen. You wholly trust the government so long as you get to feel like you are opposing the bad guys. I bet you were one of those people who loved Fauci at first and wore two masks when you were alone in your car.
Every county shut down you genius :hammerhead: Some were much more severe about lockdowns than America too. So your theory is that every government is working together? :yaohappy: And yes, anyone who knows anything about capitalism realizes they would never shut down the economy unless they were essentially forced to. Considering COVID is still an issue, the lockdowns should be continuing if your logic had any basis in reality. They’re not. Biden doesn’t care. He wants the economy open.

As for the other part, I’m obviously the ONLY anarchist you’ve ever encountered considering you’re surprised by my opinions. You seem to be under the insane delusion anarchists would support Trump.

Baller234
09-26-2023, 10:03 PM
Every county shut down you genius :hammerhead: Some were much more severe about lockdowns than America too. So your theory is that every government is working together? :yaohappy: And yes, anyone who knows anything about capitalism realizes they would never shut down the economy unless they were essentially forced to. Considering COVID is still an issue, the lockdowns should be continuing if your logic had any basis in reality. They’re not. Biden doesn’t care. He wants the economy open.

As for the other part, I’m obviously the ONLY anarchist you’ve ever encountered considering you’re surprised by my opinions. You seem to be under the insane delusion anarchists would support Trump.

Oh wow, you almost beat your high score. This isn't the dumbest thing you've ever said, but it's definitely #2. I have to say I'm impressed.

Just a quick refresher of RRR3's all time dumbest statements and opinions:


1. In an ideal society, people would be allowed to own homes but not land. (Don't think this will ever be topped)

2. Covid is still a serious issue in 2023.


Tune in next time to see what the world's most loyal and obedient anarchist will say next. That is until he gets his approved talking points from <insert dumb f*ck here>.

Patrick Chewing
09-27-2023, 11:37 AM
RRR3 getting pushed around as usual. You love to see it.

Baller234
09-27-2023, 11:44 AM
Don't worry, he'll be sure to counter with some base level insult like "Nice meltdown bro..."

And then of course fallen prey like RMWG and Fonzworth will quote tweet it with a laughing emoji because they're so ass blasted and so desperate for any kind of W they can find.