Michael Jordan played 691 regular season games with Pippen

[StrongLurk]

Lebron James regular season games with superstar teammates.

Lebron + Dwade (Heat) - 239 games
Lebron + Kyrie - 183 games
Lebron + AD - 144 games

I know Lebron gets some shit for playing with superstar talent since 2010, but he really hasn't played a lot of games with these people like the narrative says. He and AD have been teammates for a while, but have both been plagued by injuries.

Other notable star duos:

Magic and Kareem - 685 games
Kobe and Shaq - 461 games
Bird and McHale - 755 games
Duncan and Parker - 1002 games
Malone and Stockton - 1,412 games
Curry and Durant - 168 games (somehow more than Lebron/AD).

[iamgine]

Wade wasn't a superstar near the end. Neither was Kareem. Kobe wasn't a superstar at the start. Neither was Pippen.

[Real Men Wear Green]

That's what happens when you go from team to team vs sticking with one team for most of your career. Not feeling much sympathy.

[Johnny32]

That's what happens when you go from team to team vs sticking with one team for most of your career. Not feeling much sympathy.

what

[StrongLurk]

That's what happens when you go from team to team vs sticking with one team for most of your career. Not feeling much sympathy.

It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

[Xiao Yao You]

It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

guys used to play through injuries

[dankok8]

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

This is an overblown argument.

Wade never missed playoff games.
Kyrie only missed playoff games in 2015.
AD only missed playoff games in 2021.

As for the OP, it includes 1988 and 1989 when Pippen wasn't an all-star.

[Full Court]

It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

The difference is that Jordan won with his superstar buddy.

LeShrivel lost numerous times with his.

[StrongLurk]

This is an overblown argument.

Wade never missed playoff games.
Kyrie only missed playoff games in 2015.
AD only missed playoff games in 2021.

As for the OP, it includes 1988 and 1989 when Pippen wasn't an all-star.

Ah good point, but they have missed plenty of regular season games, including Lebron himself in the Lakers stint.

Curry/KD played more games together is way less time than Lebron/AD have played together.

[Xiao Yao You]

The difference is that Jordan won with his superstar buddy.

LeShrivel lost numerous times with his.

and Pippen is only considered a superstar because he played with MJ. Nobody on ISH would even know who he was otherwise

[warriorfan]

It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

it’s a biproduct of joining with stars who are in the middle of their prime all of the time. It’s a great window but it isn’t gonna stay open very long and you will have to be looking to jump to the next one and so on and so forth.

Bron made his bed, now he has to lie in it.

No excuses.

[Smook A.]

and Pippen is only considered a superstar because he played with MJ. Nobody on ISH would even know who he was otherwise

Pippen would still be a star if he didn't play on the Bulls with Jordan, but he certainly wouldn't be as well known considering he wouldn't have had the success he had.

[Axe]

And pippen has been to more playoffs than his primary option.

[Xiao Yao You]

Pippen would still be a star if he didn't play on the Bulls with Jordan, but he certainly wouldn't be as well known considering he wouldn't have had the success he had.

I'm not convinced. Always thought he was overrated. Lucky to play with MJ and for Phil

[RRR3]

This is an overblown argument.

Wade never missed playoff games.
Kyrie only missed playoff games in 2015.
AD only missed playoff games in 2021.

As for the OP, it includes 1988 and 1989 when Pippen wasn't an all-star.
Injury caused Wade to be bad in the playoffs unless we’re pretending he was good in the 2013 or 2014 playoffs.

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me!

[dankok8]

Injury caused Wade to be bad in the playoffs unless we’re pretending he was good in the 2013 or 2014 playoffs.

Wade was pretty good in some series like the 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF. He was still an all-star.

[SATAN]

and Pippen is only considered a superstar because he played with MJ. Nobody on ISH would even know who he was otherwise

You are a ****ing retard.

[Axe]

You are a ****ing retard.
Wc back!

[RRR3]

Wade was pretty good in some series like the 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF. He was still an all-star.
Wade averaged 15.9/4.6/4.8 on 49.8 TS% in the 2013 playoffs, if that's your standard for All-Star, I assume you think Dion Waiters was a beast.

In 2014, he averaged 17.8/3.9/3.9 on 56.0 TS%, I guess those could be all-star numbers, but it would certainly be considered a weak all-star.

Fact is, LeBron got historically weak help from his second option in those playoffs. No one wants to admit it because Wade is a big name though so obviously he was elite his whole career!

[dankok8]

Wade averaged 15.9/4.6/4.8 on 49.8 TS% in the 2013 playoffs, if that's your standard for All-Star, I assume you think Dion Waiters was a beast.

In 2014, he averaged 17.8/3.9/3.9 on 56.0 TS%, I guess those could be all-star numbers, but it would certainly be considered a weak all-star.

Fact is, LeBron got historically weak help from his second option in those playoffs. No one wants to admit it because Wade is a big name though so obviously he was elite his whole career!

Yep but as I said he was much better in a few key series. When they needed Wade in the 2013 Finals, he showed up. Same in the 2014 ECF where he came up big. In the early rounds, the Heat weren't going to lose anyways.

2013 Finals: 19.6/4.0/4.6 on 50.5 %TS (-1.1 rTS) with 2.3 topg (23.5/6.0/4.8 on 52.7 %TS (+1.1 rTS) with 2.8 topg the last four games)

2014 ECF: 19.8/4.3/4.7 on 61.5 %TS (+11.4 rTS) with 2.7 topg

He admittedly had a rough series in the 2014 Finals but he still showed up big in two important series.

[RRR3]

Yep but as I said he was much better in a few key series. When they needed Wade in the 2013 Finals, he showed up. Same in the 2014 ECF where he came up big. In the early rounds, the Heat weren't going to lose anyways.

2013 Finals: 19.6/4.0/4.6 on 50.5 %TS (-1.1 rTS) with 2.3 topg (23.5 ppg the last four games)

2014 ECF: 19.8/4.3/4.7 on 61.5 %TS (+11.4 rTS) with 2.7 topg

He admittedly had a rough series in the 2014 Finals but he still showed up big in two important series.
The Pacers took the Heat to game seven in 2013, and Wade put up 15.4/5.1/4.3 on 49.6 TS%, so extremely disingenuous to act like they weren't challenged in the East. LeBron averaged 29.0/7.3/5.3 with on 60.9 TS% with incredible defense that series, that's why they won. If you're gonna give him credit for the 2014 finals and a very mediocre 2013 finals for a second option, you better admit he was awful in the 2013 ECF.

[dankok8]

The Pacers took the Heat to game seven in 2013, and Wade put up 15.4/5.1/4.3 on 49.6 TS%, so extremely disingenuous to act like they weren't challenged in the East. LeBron averaged 29.0/7.3/5.3 with on 60.9 TS% with incredible defense that series, that's why they won. If you're gonna give him credit for the 2014 finals and a very mediocre 2013 finals for a second option, you better admit he was awful in the 2013 ECF.

Sure Wade was pretty bad in the 2013 ECF. I honestly thought he was better because his Game 7 was good.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.

Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.

Pippen didn't average over 20 points until he was in his fifth season. The OP is a list of names and numbers with no context.

[Airupthere]

Pippen didn't average over 20 points until he was in his fifth season. The OP is a list of names and numbers with no context.

This. Obviously just trying to stir something up.

[tpols]

That's what happens when you go from team to team vs sticking with one team for most of your career. Not feeling much sympathy.

You would think this would be common sense but apparently it isn't to most.

I don't think people appreciate how badly MJ would humiliate lebron H2H.

[SATAN]

The resident tin foil hat wearing window licking retard up in here talking about common sense. :roll: