Who from this era do you think will age out of being hated like Snoop Dogg did?

[Kblaze8855]

You may or may not know he was very controversial at one point. Around the “I know the ****** from the other side recognize my face cause I’m the OG D-O-Double G(LBC). Mad dogging ****** cause I don’t care red jumpsuit with 2 braids in my hair” time? Murder trial time? Snoop was like a face of everything wrong with the culture to a lot of mainstream America.


https://youtu.be/oGFVySHbeqA?si=ZDFK-vnvX_NiI9su

But?

As he got older and stuck around forever…he became friendly and such an institution everyone just let it go and he’s in commercials with Martha Stewart. He’s just happy go lucky weed smoking uncle snoop now:


https://youtu.be/Y1PVmANeyAg?si=adpP-jJtX5vPy85S



Who has a problem with Snoop? Nobody. Not a single person.

Happens in sports too. In basketball in particular?

Reggie Miller aged out of being hated. I liked end of career Reggie. Loved the ending Larry Brown gave him with the extra character timeout. Fans crying. It was wholesome regardless of how much or a bitch he had been at one point.

Who do you think gets that treatment among the more polarizing guys when they are on their last legs and you realize you’re gonna miss them? Or at least the era they represented?

KD? Chris Paul? Lebron at the end?

Whoever you find yourself most critical of…

Last games of their career…you still holding that hate?

[Kblaze8855]

I get the feeling Wilt aged out of hate. There is footage of him getting standing ovations on the road as an old man. Not like a retirement situation. Just appreciating his efforts.

Know who didn’t? Bill Laimbeer. Hated till the second he retired and beyond.

[FultzNationRISE]

Current players I dont know, the consummate all-time example would be Meta Ron Artest-Peace.

[Kblaze8855]

Current players I dont know, the consummate all-time example would be Meta Ron Artest-Peace.


How about Harden and Kyrie?

I know you don’t really acknowledge personal dislikes but….it’s there. At least for Kyrie.

39 year old mostly gray haired Kyrie on his farewell tour.

Is the beef over?

[tpols]

James Harden maybe. He got hate for the MMA flopping techniques he invented but as time goes on people will forget it. Plus he's seems like a down to earth chill dude.

[tpols]

Current players I dont know, the consummate all-time example would be Meta Ron Artest-Peace.

I feel like people didn't hate ron artest. They were just scared of him.

[iamgine]

Dray? I feel his podcast is getting lots of love.

[FultzNationRISE]

How about Harden and Kyrie?

I know you don’t really acknowledge personal dislikes but….it’s there. At least for Kyrie.

39 year old mostly gray haired Kyrie on his farewell tour.

Is the beef over?


I think these things generally depend on how the subject in question evolves as a person.

Spike Lee was 50 years old tweeting out an erroneous address for George Zimmerman in his haste to jump on a bandwagon and be relevant, could have gotten some random old couple killed.

If thats the kind of thing we see Kyrie doing as the years go by, I’d imagine he will maintain his same critics.

[FultzNationRISE]

I feel like people didn't hate ron artest. They were just scared of him.

Might not have been a personal hatred but he was still a villain for a while after the Malice. And like Snoop he certainly received the “violent out of control thug” label for a while before his image turned around.

[warriorfan]

Well the thing about it is for this to work you have to be entertaining or at least charming in some sort of way. KD, CP3, and Harden are not going to do that. Ron Artest has a bit of it. But yeah, you can’t just go ghost for awhile and people forget, or they might forget hating you but they will forget you entirely as well. You have to re-invent yourself in some capacity while being likable.

[tpols]

Might not have been a personal hatred but he was still a villain for a while after the Malice. And like Snoop he certainly received the “violent out of control thug” label for a while before his image turned around.

Yea... but when he won with the Lakers he kinda shed that image and became sort of the likeable crazy guy. Especially when he changed his name.

[Full Court]

Ja Morant. Once he grows up and stops acting like a punk, people will forgive and forget his idiotic antics.

[ILLsmak]

James Harden maybe. He got hate for the MMA flopping techniques he invented but as time goes on people will forget it. Plus he's seems like a down to earth chill dude.

nah man haha anyone but Harden. Plenty of other people have all time great moments, rings, whatever. He def balls, but that step back and his running thru the lane and throwing his head back... there's not gonna be a good portrayal of him.

Rodman aged out of being hated. That's kind of interesting, isn't it? He went from a thug to a sweetheart without really changing. Even his North Korea stuff was viewed in a sympathetic light. Altho some of it was just like damn... damn. haha. But getting on with the Bulls really made everything work.

I think that would be the only way Harden could get out of it, and he probably knows it. Get on a team and really do some winning. Winning truly does change everything. Sure, Rodman won a lot. He even won in SA. He had rings, but when you team up with MJ it's just different. Someone made a joke about Harden on the Bucks and I was saying that might be a good place for him, but now they got Dame so $$$. He needs to be on the team with a GOAT level talent and b2b or something in order to get not hated.

I def was into Snoop backwhen, for awhile... but once you find Eazy E you realize Snoop wasn't it. I'm trying to think of what bball player I would compare Snoop to. He'd be like Joe Dumars or something, if we stay with the Pistons. Even Isaiah, cuz he aged out, too, due to continuing to stay in the media (not like Rodman, tho.)

I dunno if there are that many "I hate" players other than Bron and Harden. Hard to hate Kobe anymore. I honestly dunno if he would have aged out had he not died. In a way, it was fitting tho cuz it def did make a lot of people (sane people lol) realize that Kobe was a monster. I dunno if Harden could even escape his hate by dying. He'd just be someone people forgot about. Diz dude in the NBA with a beard played like a total bitch then up n died one day. RIP.

Edit: o shit I forgot about CP, and nah he's gonna be known as a snake even tho he'll stay in media like Isiah did. The diff is that Isaiah won and Isiah got some (albeit unsuccessful) jobs. I don't think CP is gonna get jobs outside of snake jobs like players union. Players union is like the snake who pretends to help the players. haha.

-Smak

[Kblaze8855]

I def was into Snoop backwhen, for awhile... but once you find Eazy E you realize Snoop wasn't it.




Snoop rapped circles around E. Flat out better music once E didn’t have Dre. Real Gs was hard though.

[ILLsmak]

Snoop rapped circles around E. Flat out better music once E didn’t have Dre. Real Gs was hard though.

I'm just saying that it's hard to take Snoop serious as a menace when you hear the stuff eazy was doing. Louiville Slugga edit: sorry louie* was way harder than anything Snoop did, too. Nuts on ya chin. Eazy wasn't even a rapper, really. I don't think he wrote, either. He was just a dude, but he bodied snoop in terms of being a menace.

Edit2: the only popular dude who was really on some holyshit psycho like sorry louie was biggie in a few songs. Well, pun, too. Everything else people say doesn't seem that real.

Your ask a question thread is glitched out thoe. I did a big serious Dr Phil post and it ate it.

-Smak

[Kblaze8855]

I saw that. I can only read new posts by trying to do an advanced reply. I’m going to try to fix it. Your post is there it’s just not displaying the last page.

And I’m sure E was probably more street legitimate than a lot of rappers, but he wasn’t making better music.

[ILLsmak]

I saw that. I can only read new posts by trying to do an advanced reply. I’m going to try to fix it. Your post is there it’s just not displaying the last page.

And I’m sure E was probably more street legitimate than a lot of rappers, but he wasn’t making better music.

No doubt, but I mean the title is who aged out of being hated and you said Snoop was seen a public enemy number 1. My point was as a kid when I got to Eazy and saw like at a certain point until death he was just neutering snoop and dre, it made me feel less about how snoop was a bad ass. I mean he's got mad songs that he just busts their ass. I know he didn't write it. I dunno how he 'learned' to rap, either, but the end story is that he is absolutely dropping hot rox on doods until death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz8pHEAe5vQ

You got me listening to all the shit again haha. O well, ain't mad at that.

-Smak

[Kblaze8855]

He was talking a lot but people weren’t really listening much. Snoop was among biggest rappers in the world and E was….respected but not that major by then. Snoop didn’t have an album sell as little as the one you posted till 2008. He had like 10 albums between his own, and his side projects in a row that were bigger. Snoop and Dre got worldwide famous while E wasn’t even top tier out west. He wasn’t Snoop, Dre, Cube, Pac, Quik…hell he wasn’t Hammer. He may not have been bigger than E40 by then. He was killing snoop and Dre the only way a much less successful rival can. Talking shit from the shadows. Well not the shadows…people knew who he was but he was left waaaaaay behind death row.

[Kblaze8855]

It just occurred to me that Joel Embiid is pretty disliked, and I’m not sure he’s the type to grow out of it.

[ILLsmak]

Like I said 100 to everything you said, but just these dis tracks tho.

I GOT MORE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYtOiAe1EEA I got one for every post haha.

Nah but for real. I totally get what you are saying, but all I'm saying is Eazy went bonkers as soon as someone dissed him. I dunno if anyone in the world has made as many brutal dis tracks vs another big name person. All that stuff about Dre used to wear lipstick, etc... he just went in. I mean, EZ ded so it's whatever, but he went out hard. All that shit is gonna stay alive. Really if you dunno these songs check them out. They are hard. It's diff type of music... but I mean I can just feel the raw energy, the hate, haha. It's just dirty. It's like verbal assault. Actual dis tracks, even more so than the famous ones just violating them. Not saying they are the best dis tracks ever, but there is something so personal and so nasty about them, like i said after I heard all that I was like haha snoop, but I def loved Snoop's music. Doggystyle and doggfather were both great. But I'm a dude who likes rap like Killarmy... haha rap that gets you on a watch list.

-Smak

[bison]

Ja Morant. Once he grows up and stops acting like a punk, people will forgive and forget his idiotic antics.

If* he grows up.


Look at gilbert arenas. Was an asshole back in his prime and is still an asshole now.

[John8204]

As someone who grew up during that era Snoop wasn't really hated at any point. Most of the rappers feuded with each other but hate went to a bunch of artists. Michael Jackson took up most of the oxygen in the hate-sphere until the late 90's when Puff Daddy and Limp Bizcut started covering Led Zepplin and George Michael...then you saw some hate.

[Kblaze8855]

Michael Jackson was more beloved during his trials than almost anyone in world history was at their peak of love. Even now 30 years later people are dedicated to proving his innocence. People who thought he was probably guilty were still joking about it because he was too big and loved to get pure hate.