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rawimpact
10-05-2023, 08:33 AM
Biden approves new section of border wall as Mexico crossings rise
US President Joe Biden's administration is to build a section of border wall in southern Texas in an effort to stop rising levels of immigration.


Around 20 miles (32km) will be built in Starr County along its border with Mexico, where officials report high numbers of crossings.


Building a border wall was a signature policy of Donald Trump as president and fiercely opposed by Democrats.


In 2020, Mr Biden promised he would not build another foot of wall if elected.


His administration passed a proclamation (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/proclamation-termination-of-emergency-with-respect-to-southern-border-of-united-states-and-redirection-of-funds-diverted-to-border-wall-construction/) soon after taking office that said building a wall across the southern border "is not a serious policy solution".


In a statement to Associated News on Wednesday night, the US Customs and Border Protection defended the latest move, saying it was using funds already allocated for a border barrier.



"Congress appropriated fiscal year 2019 funds for the construction of border barrier in the Rio Grande Valley, and DHS is required to use those funds for their appropriated purpose," the statement said (https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2).


The rising number of illegal border crossings has made the issue a vulnerable one for the president.


More than 245,000 crossings have been made this year in the Rio Grande Valley area alone, government data shows, and September is expected to be a record month.


Several US cities say they are feeling the strain of the influx.


New York City Mayor Eric Adams predicted the cost of housing the more than 100,000 new arrivals since last year will rise to $12bn over the next three years.


Mr Adams is travelling to Mexico, Colombia and Ecuador this week to discourage migrants from setting out. "We are at capacity," he said on Tuesday.



President Biden's secretary of homeland security referred to an "acute and immediate need" to build the new section of wall and prevent unlawful entries.


The US border crisis - in four graphs (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61989673)
US cities far from border grapple with migrant crisis (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65539701)
The Texas town caught in America's border battle (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66333303)



Dozens of federal laws have been waived in order to approve its construction, including the Clean Air Act and Safe Drinking Water Act.


The move has angered environmentalists, who say the structures will cut through the habitats of endangered plants and animals.


"It's disheartening to see President Biden stoop to this level, casting aside our nation's bedrock environmental laws to build ineffective wildlife-killing border walls," said Laiken Jordahl, a conservation advocate at the Center for Biological Diversity.


According to a proposal by US Customs and Border Protection, the barriers will consist of large bollards embedded in a concrete base, as well as gates, cameras and CCTV equipment.


Homeland Security said it would use funding secured during Donald Trump's presidency to build the new section.



It is the first time the Biden administration has used its powers to approve the construction of new walls - something that was done often during Mr Trump's time in office, when around 50 miles of new wall (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46748492) was built and 400 miles of existing barriers were upgraded.


Speaking to Fox News on Wednesday, Mr Trump blamed the president for causing the crisis by repealing his strict border policies and now having to reintroduce them.


"He has to do all of the [other] things that we were doing," he said.


Mr Biden has been facing increasing criticism over his immigration policies in the wake of a recent surge of migrants crossing into the US.


US Border Patrol apprehended 181,059 people along the southern border in August compared with 132,648 in July, according to the latest data.


Mexico's president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, said that 10,000 people arrived at the border every day last week alone.






https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67015137


Ok so now I'm confused. Do walls work or do they not at preventing illegal migration?

rmt
10-05-2023, 09:13 AM
And no sight of this on the US major news networks. Beaten by BBC, c'mon - LOL.

Jasper
10-05-2023, 10:03 AM
the wall should be the length of the border... not 900 miles short.

diamenz
10-05-2023, 10:07 AM
i'm confused too - is this a win or a loss for conservatives?

RRR3
10-05-2023, 10:20 AM
Conservatives would like Biden if they actually paid attention. Liberals don’t pay attention either though to be fair.

Long Duck Dong
10-05-2023, 10:58 AM
And Eric Adams flying to Mexico himself on a 4 stop Latin America tour to discourage migrants from coming to the US. When Trump did stuff like that y'all called him racist. The NY Mayor also just suspended NYC's decades old "right to shelter" for migrants. If Trump did that the libtards would also call him racist.

See what's happening is you dumb liberals aren't progressive enough. Most conservatives recognized long ago that illegal aliens should be discouraged from coming here. Very few liberals did. Bernie used to be one but then he sold his soul to the devil.

It must be a little humiliating for liberals, who still have an ounce of common sense and self awareness, to realize that conservatives are now the party of progress and defenders of individual freedoms. How did we get here?

https://media.tenor.com/QDzXn4NnqdYAAAAd/donald-trump-wall.gif

"Miss me yet?"

Hey Yo
10-05-2023, 11:08 AM
Now what for the board Dems here? Their hero promised no more wall would be built on his watch but Biden, doing what he does best and that is lie. This time it was his peeps on the receiving end of his bullshit.

If the borders haven't been open like the extreme left has been telling us for over a year, then why the sudden need to build 20 miles of wall???

Patrick Chewing
10-05-2023, 11:12 AM
"There will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd05p-bHos4



:roll:

Baller234
10-05-2023, 11:14 AM
Now what for the board Dems here? Their hero promised no more wall would be built on his watch but Biden, doing what he does best and that is lie. This time it was his peeps on the receiving end of his bullshit.

If the borders haven't been open like the extreme left has been telling us for over a year, then why the sudden need to build 20 miles of wall???

At this point they're so vested in hating Trump, nothing else matters.

Democrats can lie, cheat, steal, go back on their word and their promises, prove to be soulless hypocrites, etc... they just know Orange Man Bad.

Dems being in favor of a wall now despite not being in favor of one before is perfectly fine. Why? Because f*ck Donald Trump, that's why.

Long Duck Dong
10-05-2023, 11:28 AM
Will any of ISH's resident left show up in this thread? They have to find it unsettling that they were dead wrong and Trump was right

rawimpact
10-05-2023, 11:29 AM
Conservatives would like Biden if they actually paid attention. Liberals don’t pay attention either though to be fair.

You're joking right? Dude literally does the opposite of everything he campaigned for.

Didn't student loan interest just restart? What happened to that forgiveness? Thank god the courts found that unconstitutional.

Baller234
10-05-2023, 11:48 AM
Conservatives would like Biden if they actually paid attention. Liberals don’t pay attention either though to be fair.

I think what conservatives love most about Biden is how he forced and coerced them to take an experimental vaccination.

diamenz
10-05-2023, 12:12 PM
it's not like "the wall" matters in any kind of significant sense anyway. when you have border agents cutting barbed wire in order to help "asylum seekers" over the border because they're in a hazardous zone, you're only enabling more to come.

i think governor abbot's idea to ship 'asylum seekers' to "sanctuary cities" was a great idea. not only does it put liberal politicians on the spot and force them to walk the walk, but it brings national attention to the issue.

neither side wants to do anything about the border crisis because they both benefit from it politically. it keeps the votes coming in, that's for sure.

Hey Yo
10-05-2023, 12:12 PM
Back in May, KJP said building a wall would eventually get blown down by strong winds. It would be just a waste of tax payers money.

Has it been deemed there is no longer a chance of strong winds in that part of Texas???


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/05/08/karine_jean-pierre_a_border_wall_cant_withstand_heavy_winds.ht ml

RRR3
10-05-2023, 12:25 PM
You're joking right? Dude literally does the opposite of everything he campaigned for.

Didn't student loan interest just restart? What happened to that forgiveness? Thank god the courts found that unconstitutional.
Yes but what he campaigned for are stuff the left wants. He's doing what y'all want so you should be happy. You guys are the ones who want student loans. Biden is right-wing as hell but it's still not enough for y'all because Fox News told you he's a communist.

Hey Yo
10-05-2023, 12:41 PM
Yes but what he campaigned for are stuff the left wants. He's doing what y'all want so you should be happy. You guys are the ones who want student loans. Biden is right-wing as hell but it's still not enough for y'all because Fox News told you he's a communist.

please love and vote for my Biden.

JohnnySic
10-05-2023, 12:43 PM
Yes but what he campaigned for are stuff the left wants. He's doing what y'all want so you should be happy. You guys are the ones who want student loans. Biden is right-wing as hell but it's still not enough for y'all because Fox News told you he's a communist.

LOL. he pushed for an unconstitutional so-called "vaccine". All you need to know.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 12:44 PM
please love and vote for my Biden.
Are you retarded? He's not doing anything that I want him to do. You guys are the ones who want the wall built and students to have crippling debt :hammerhead:

RRR3
10-05-2023, 12:44 PM
LOL. he pushed for an unconstitutional so-called "vaccine". All you need to know.
So did Trump, I'm not seeing the supposed huge difference between the two policy wise.

bladefd
10-05-2023, 01:11 PM
It's not going to work. Waste of money and time. It's better to have a bunch of drones and troops protecting the border. Wall is not going to work.

Baller234
10-05-2023, 01:25 PM
So did Trump, I'm not seeing the supposed huge difference between the two policy wise.

Trump only ever suggested that people take the vaccine. He didn't try and mandate it by law and force you into second class citizenship if you refused.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

RRR3
10-05-2023, 01:35 PM
Trump only ever suggested that people take the vaccine. He didn't try and mandate it by law and force you into second class citizenship if you refused.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif
Didn't really stay in office that long after the vaccine came out. Would you honestly be shocked if he had? Trump loves the vaccine.

GimmeThat
10-05-2023, 01:38 PM
when a republican builds a tomb stone, loved ones will gather and pay their respect

when a democrat builds a tomb stone, they try to make sure there's a policy printing money for grave caretakers

Baller234
10-05-2023, 01:48 PM
Didn't really stay in office that long after the vaccine came out. Would you honestly be shocked if he had? Trump loves the vaccine.

Do I think Trump would have mandated the vaccine by law? :oldlol:

What a dumb shill you are. You claim to oppose democrats but it's clear you don't outright hate them like you do republicans. When it comes to democrats you're willing to tolerate their shenanigans in an "enemy of my enemy" type way, because everyone you knows you reserve your true scorn for Trump and his supporters.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 01:51 PM
Do I think Trump would have mandated the vaccine by law? :oldlol:

What a dumb shill you are. You claim to oppose democrats but it's clear you don't outright hate them like you do republicans. When it comes to democrats you're willing to tolerate their shenanigans in an "enemy of my enemy" type way, because everyone you knows you reserve your true scorn for Trump and his supporters.
>acting as if Trump didn’t breach people’s liberties just like every other president.
>followed up by a meltdown that I’m not on his team so I must be on team Democrat


Delusional.

Baller234
10-05-2023, 01:56 PM
>acting as if Trump didn’t breach people’s liberties just like every other president.
>followed up by a meltdown that I’m not on his team so I must be on team Democrat


Delusional.

You are on team democrat, you just don't want to admit it. Like I said, even if you aren't a rabid fan of democrats, you're clearly rooting for them to succeed in their battle against the evil republicans.

Democrats forced and coerced unwilling civilians to take an experimental needle into their arm. I really don't care what type of false equivalency you pull out of your ass. Nothing Trump did was ever as bad as that, but you are welcome to try and come up with something so we can all laugh.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 02:03 PM
You are on team democrat, you just don't want to admit it. Like I said, even if you aren't a rabid fan of democrats, you're clearly rooting for them to succeed in their battle against the evil republicans.

Democrats forced and coerced unwilling civilians to take an experimental needle into their arm. I really don't care what type of false equivalency you pull out of your ass. Nothing Trump did was ever as bad as that, but you are welcome to try and come up with something so we can all laugh.
Democrats are incapable of stopping Republicans long term, so no they are not the answer to stopping conservatism. As usual you create a strawman and argue against it. Even if Biden is worse than Trump, Trump doesn't exactly have a good track record in terms of being libertarian, so your outrage seems very selective.

rawimpact
10-05-2023, 02:04 PM
You are on team democrat, you just don't want to admit it. Like I said, even if you aren't a rabid fan of democrats, you're clearly rooting for them to succeed in their battle against the evil republicans.

Democrats forced and coerced unwilling civilians to take an experimental needle into their arm. I really don't care what type of false equivalency you pull out of your ass. Nothing Trump did was ever as bad as that, but you are welcome to try and come up with something so we can all laugh.

Of course he is... he's an anti-government, government employed idiot

rmt
10-05-2023, 02:04 PM
LOL - Biden's press secretary claiming that they are required by law to build the wall so that's why they're doing it. What weak sauce - shameless.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 02:05 PM
Of course he is... he's an anti-government, government employed idiot
Ah yes, public libraries, famously infringing on people's rights. Genius.

rmt
10-05-2023, 02:06 PM
Still nothing from the major US networks. Google News has article on Biden's dog on its Top Stories, but I see nothing on this.

Baller234
10-05-2023, 02:06 PM
Democrats are incapable of stopping Republicans long term, so no they are not the answer to stopping conservatism. As usual you create a strawman and argue against it. Even if Biden is worse than Trump, Trump doesn't exactly have a good track record in terms of being libertarian, so your outrage seems very selective.

If Biden is worse than Trump, then why do you have a Donald Trump avatar and not a Biden avatar. Why are so you much more vocal for your disdain for Trump as opposed to Biden? Biden is the current president.

rawimpact
10-05-2023, 02:08 PM
Ah yes, public libraries, famously infringing on people's rights. Genius.

Uncle sam writing your checks no?

Baller234
10-05-2023, 02:09 PM
I agree.

It's pretty shameful that you claim to be anti-government while simultaneously working for the government, whether it's the federal government or your state government.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 02:11 PM
I agree.

It's pretty shameful that you claim to be anti-government while simultaneously working for the government, whether it's the federal government or your state government.
Working for the government :roll:

I work at a ****ing library, you guys probably think your letter carriers are government agents with this logic :yaohappy:

RRR3
10-05-2023, 02:13 PM
Uncle sam writing your checks no?
The alternative is to work for corporations or small businesses which are highly unethical to anyone who believes in workplace democracy. Or work for the government directly, which is also unethical. Libraries are a public service, you'd have to be pretty insane to think I'm helping the government by sorting through books.

Baller234
10-05-2023, 02:25 PM
Working for the government :roll:

I work at a ****ing library, you guys probably think your letter carriers are government agents with this logic :yaohappy:

That means you work for the government dipshit.

Patrick Chewing
10-05-2023, 02:29 PM
That means you work for the government dipshit.

:roll:


LOL he's so ****ing stupid.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 02:31 PM
That means you work for the government dipshit.
Tell me how working for the library is helping the government.

Long Duck Dong
10-05-2023, 03:24 PM
It's not going to work. Waste of money and time. It's better to have a bunch of drones and troops protecting the border. Wall is not going to work.

What do you guys know what works and doesn't? Just like diamenz pointed out, once Texas started sending migrants to blue states they started doing the same things red states were doing when they had a bunch of migrants trying to settle there. The same things liberals had previously called "racist".

If you had a better solution to the problem y'all wouldn't need to do these "racist" things but you don't, so let the conservatives come up with works and doesn't. You aren't fixing it, you've made the problem worse, so stand back, be silent, observe what works and keep copying that. Gabish?

rawimpact
10-05-2023, 03:53 PM
Tell me how working for the library is helping the government.

You are providing physical labor stacking them shelves

The rest of us only provide our tax dollars

Big difference... but you should know this as an anarchist

Just admit it, you're a fraud

An anarchist that works for the government... only on ISH.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 06:37 PM
You are providing physical labor stacking them shelves

The rest of us only provide our tax dollars

Big difference... but you should know this as an anarchist

Just admit it, you're a fraud

An anarchist that works for the government... only on ISH.
Yeah, you seem confused about what public libraries are. They are a public service to help people. If you think it's possible for public libraries to function without taxpayer assistance under capitalism, you don't understand capitalism very well. You also obviously don't understand anarchy very well because you think I should work for a corporation or small business instead (I have done this anyways) which is also against anarchist values. There is no job I could work that lines up completely with my values (and I need a job to not starve and be homeless), even a co-op would still be operating under a capitalist framework. The library is one of the better options I have, though, I'm not contributing to the government in any way besides in your diseased brain. Lending people books helps the government lmao:roll:

bladefd
10-05-2023, 06:59 PM
Apparently, they are only adding 20 additional miles in a specific part of Texas:


Although no maps were provided in the announcement, a previous map shared during the gathering of public comments shows the piecemeal construction will add up to an additional 20 miles (32 kilometers) to the existing border barrier system in the area. https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2

Nothing like what Trump had in mind with the entire length of the border.

I still think it's a waste of money. They will just move to another area or increase in boat crossings. I don't think it's going to solve the problem.

Wardell Curry
10-05-2023, 07:06 PM
Conservatives would like Biden if they actually paid attention. Liberals don’t pay attention either though to be fair.

News outlets largely do the thinking for their audiences regardless of party lines.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 07:15 PM
News outlets largely do the thinking for their audiences regardless of party lines.
Yep. Hence many liberals liking George W. Bush now

Long Duck Dong
10-05-2023, 08:50 PM
Apparently, they are only adding 20 additional miles in a specific part of Texas:

https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2

Nothing like what Trump had in mind with the entire length of the border.

I still think it's a waste of money. They will just move to another area or increase in boat crossings. I don't think it's going to solve the problem.

Only a dummy thinks a wall doesn't help. The border patrol themselves have said a wall helps. I'll take their word over yours. Is it 100% effective of course not but didn't you see all those illegal aliens falling and breaking bones trying to get over it :lol It's a definite deterrent if a nation has the will to enforce it.

North Korea spent the entire pandemic enforcing their border with walls and barriers . According to Reuters and South Korean officials 1000+ defectors made it past the barriers in 2019. After their border was reinforced, only 67 made it in 2021. Tell me again how barriers aren't effective :lol

warriorfan
10-05-2023, 10:14 PM
Tell me how working for the library is helping the government.

RRR3 has a point here. He’s probably the most terrible employee that is an all around net negative for them. He’s definitely not helping anything.

RRR3
10-05-2023, 10:29 PM
The Crack hitting again.

warriorfan
10-05-2023, 10:32 PM
The Crack hitting again.

No seriously. What do you do there? :lol

Do you try to do actual work or do you just act super lazy and useless?

RRR3
10-05-2023, 10:36 PM
No seriously. What do you do there? :lol

Do you try to do actual work or do you just act super lazy and useless?
I check in people's books and shelve them, what do you think? It's hard to be useless and lazy when you got bosses watching you, but I only work as hard as I need to which is what everyone should be doing.

Long Duck Dong
10-05-2023, 11:22 PM
but I only work as hard as I need to which is what everyone should be doing.

Only for people with no ambition that are content coasting through life. :facepalm

You'll never make it to the coveted head librarian with this attitude :lol

BurningHammer
10-06-2023, 12:06 AM
North Korea spent the entire pandemic enforcing their border with walls and barriers . According to Reuters and South Korean officials 1000+ defectors made it past the barriers in 2019. After their border was reinforced, only 67 made it in 2021. Tell me again how barriers aren't effective :lol

NK also has had soldiers patrolling along the border 24/7 and allowed to shoot anybody going out or coming in on sight.

It has been obviously very effective.

Should the US-Mexico border does that? :milton

diamenz
10-06-2023, 12:08 AM
why are you still working in a library? are you in school or learning a trade?

Long Duck Dong
10-06-2023, 01:49 AM
NK also has had soldiers patrolling along the border 24/7 and allowed to shoot anybody going out or coming in on sight.

It has been obviously very effective.

Should the US-Mexico border does that? :milton


Like NK wasn't already doing that before they built up better physical barriers in 2020. :lol

Long Duck Dong
10-06-2023, 01:51 AM
why are you still working in a library? are you in school or learning a trade?

I think he sells drugs on the side. Library for the bennies. Drugs for the tax free income. Not a bad idea if you can pull it off.

rmt
10-06-2023, 03:49 AM
IMHO, if one (will) get a pension (once vested)) from his/her state (or federal government), one is a government worker - doesn't matter what service one performs.

Lakers Legend#32
10-06-2023, 04:00 AM
Rudy's been assigned a public defender.

BAWAWAWAWAHAHAHAHA!

BurningHammer
10-06-2023, 08:41 AM
Like NK wasn't already doing that before they built up better physical barriers in 2020. :lol

We all know the NK/SK border is completely sealed shut. The north border between NK and China/Russia was somewhat passable thus there were more escapes and contraband trades before the pandemic. Then the pandemic hit NK, so they used that opportunity to completely shut down the country including the north border.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlX7tl1QvJs

diamenz
10-06-2023, 10:32 AM
I think he sells drugs on the side. Library for the bennies. Drugs for the tax free income. Not a bad idea if you can pull it off.

there's no way someone that looks like him can sell drugs and not get robbed.

Patrick Chewing
10-06-2023, 10:39 AM
RRR3 is a disgrace to the human race. A waste of flesh that hard-working Americans like us have to pay for. His parents should have smothered him when he was younger. They definitely can't be proud of him.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 11:01 AM
Yeah, you seem confused about what public libraries are. They are a public service to help people. If you think it's possible for public libraries to function without taxpayer assistance under capitalism, you don't understand capitalism very well. You also obviously don't understand anarchy very well because you think I should work for a corporation or small business instead (I have done this anyways) which is also against anarchist values. There is no job I could work that lines up completely with my values (and I need a job to not starve and be homeless), even a co-op would still be operating under a capitalist framework. The library is one of the better options I have, though, I'm not contributing to the government in any way besides in your diseased brain. Lending people books helps the government lmao:roll:

You could learn a skill or a trade and be your own boss.

I also think it's strange that, as someone who says he hates all forms of government, you would rather work for the government as opposed to a private company.

Also, don't be naive. The library might be a public service but that doesn't mean that someone isn't profiting from it. If there's one thing for certain, anything that requires taxpayer funding means that there are people behind the scenes with phony job titles skimming off the top.

Patrick Chewing
10-06-2023, 11:17 AM
Makes you wonder how RRR3 became the way he is. How did he get radicalized like this? Unless his parents taught him and are radicals themselves.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 11:38 AM
Makes you wonder how RRR3 became the way he is. How did he get radicalized like this? Unless his parents taught him and are radicals themselves.

A combination of:

- Popular media
- Lack of adult male role model
- Lack of faith in God or something greater

paksat
10-06-2023, 12:38 PM
Wait till he cures cancer

diamenz
10-06-2023, 03:19 PM
hey remember when trump foresaw a worsening crisis, called for a wall but he was labeled and racist and a bigot? ya'll remember that?

diamenz
10-06-2023, 03:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg-gCeKR7qQ

RRR3
10-06-2023, 04:17 PM
You could learn a skill or a trade and be your own boss.

I also think it's strange that, as someone who says he hates all forms of government, you would rather work for the government as opposed to a private company.

Also, don't be naive. The library might be a public service but that doesn't mean that someone isn't profiting from it. If there's one thing for certain, anything that requires taxpayer funding means that there are people behind the scenes with phony job titles skimming off the top.
Please tell me how working for the public library benefits the government :lol I have worked for corporations and small businesses, but anarchist are also staunchly anti-capitalist, so that doesn't jive with my beliefs either. There are no jobs under capitalism that will meet my values completely. As for someone skimming off the top you mean the boss? Yeah that's how capitalism works. Brilliant analysis

RRR3
10-06-2023, 04:17 PM
Fatrick had a multi-post meltdown about me :yaohappy:

Baller234
10-06-2023, 04:43 PM
Please tell me how working for the public library benefits the government :lol I have worked for corporations and small businesses, but anarchist are also staunchly anti-capitalist, so that doesn't jive with my beliefs either. There are no jobs under capitalism that will meet my values completely. As for someone skimming off the top you mean the boss? Yeah that's how capitalism works. Brilliant analysis

Uh, the boss of a privately owned company can't be accused of "skimming" off the top. It's their company. If they're the ones funding the enterprise, they can choose whatever amount they want to designate towards profit or their own salary.

Public libraries are funded by taxpayer money. Before any of that money goes to a single library, government officials and bureaucrats "manage" where that money goes and designate salary positions. Before you know it the senator's cousin is the administrative assistant to the chief quantum disruption officer and their associate is the director of the ethical dilemma and advisory committee. Not to mention the various programs and "initiatives" that also require additional funding. Rest assured someone behind the scenes is benefiting.

Whether you want to admit or not, you're making other people rich. You didn't think the government was providing these services out of the goodness of their heart, did you? Lol.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 04:47 PM
Uh, the boss of a privately owned company can't be accused of "skimming" off the top. It's their company. If they're the ones funding the enterprise, they can choose whatever amount they want to designate towards profit or their own salary.

Public libraries are funded by taxpayer money. Before any of that money goes to a single library, government officials and bureaucrats "manage" where that money goes and designate salary positions. Before you know it the senator's cousin is the administrative assistant to the chief quantum disruption officer and their associate is the director of the ethical dilemma and advisory committee. Not to mention the various programs and "initiatives" that also require additional funding. Rest assured someone behind the scenes is benefiting.

Whether you want to admit or not, you're making other people rich. You didn't think the government was providing these services out of the goodness of their heart, did you? Lol.
Yeah, are you honestly retarded enough to think taxes are only for libraries? The government uses taxpayer money mostly for stuff like wars, military funding and police and stuff like that, everyone paying attention knows this. There is money left over for the libraries though or else they wouldn't be open and functioning. If you think it's the library's fault the government mismanages taxpayer money, then you're even stupider than I already thought. Lol at you pretending bosses of private companies don't steal from their workers. Pathetic.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 04:54 PM
Yeah, are you honestly retarded enough to think taxes are only for libraries? The government uses taxpayer money mostly for stuff like wars, military funding and police and stuff like that, everyone paying attention knows this. There is money left over for the libraries though or else they wouldn't be open and functioning. If you think it's the library's fault the government mismanages taxpayer money, then you're even stupider than I already thought. Lol at you pretending bosses of private companies don't steal from their workers. Pathetic.

Who the hell said taxes are *only* for libraries? I certainly didn't say that. It's simply a fact that libraries are funded by taxpayer money. And the money isn't "mismanaged" you genius, it's deliberately funneled and laundered.

As for your second point, I can only imagine what you consider "stealing". You seem to have a very flexible definition when it comes to that word, similar to your definition of the word woman.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 04:58 PM
Who the hell said taxes are *only* for libraries? I certainly didn't say that. It's simply a fact that libraries are funded by taxpayer money. And the money isn't "mismanaged" you genius, it's deliberately funneled and laundered.

As for your second point, I can only imagine what you consider "stealing". You seem to have a very flexible definition when it comes to that word, similar to your definition of the word woman.
You threw a tantrum implying it's somehow library's fault that the government uses tax money for bad things. Libraries do not control where the government allots their money, they receive enough to remain functional and open. All the other money you talk about is going elsewhere to do bad stuff. Take it up with the government not the library, you lunatic. Lol at bringing up trans women again, obsessed!

Also with your logic, you are working for the government during tax season bc they you their taxes and get money back. Busted!

Lakers Legend#32
10-06-2023, 05:04 PM
Makes you wonder how RRR3 became the way he is. How did he get radicalized like this? Unless his parents taught him and are radicals themselves.

Says the radical who saw nothing wrong with Trump's mob trying to overthrow the government.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 05:12 PM
You threw a tantrum implying it's somehow library's fault that the government uses tax money for bad things. Libraries do not control where the government allots their money, they receive enough to remain functional and open. All the other money you talk about is going elsewhere to do bad stuff. Take it up with the government not the library, you lunatic. Lol at bringing up trans women again, obsessed!

Also with your logic, you are working for the government during tax season bc they you their taxes and get money back. Busted!

I bet you don't even work hard during the day. I bet your job requires minimal effort. I bet the library is barely ever half full at most.

If you're overpaid, which you most definitely are, imagine what your boss is being paid. They probably work even less.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 05:15 PM
I bet you don't even work hard during the day. I bet your job requires minimal effort. I bet the library is barely ever half full at most.

If you're overpaid, which you most definitely are, imagine what your boss is being paid. They probably work even less.
Deflection, because you couldn't respond to anything I said. Stumped! :roll: :roll: :roll: Completely stumped, holy shit this is hilarious. You're so mad rn :oldlol:

Baller234
10-06-2023, 05:26 PM
Deflection, because you couldn't respond to anything I said. Stumped! :roll: :roll: :roll: Completely stumped, holy shit this is hilarious. You're so mad rn :oldlol:

No you genius. I was trying to illustrate how public services and public programs are bloated, ineffective and glorified money laundering schemes.

Your salaried position probably isn't even needed. I bet if your library cut 30% of the staff, it could function just the same. I doubt you even work hard during the day.

If 40-60k a year is being wasted on you, and you're at the bottom of the totem pole who barely even does anything, what do you think your superiors are earning? What do you think the overseers in government are earning?

RRR3
10-06-2023, 05:30 PM
No you genius. I was trying to illustrate how public services and public programs are bloated, ineffective and glorified money laundering schemes.

Your salaried position probably isn't even needed. I bet if your library cut 30% of the staff, it could function just the same. I doubt you even work hard during the day.

If 40-60k a year is being wasted on you, and you're at the bottom of the totem pole who barely even does anything, what do you think your superiors are earning? What do you think the overseers in government are earning?
Capitalist nonsense. The corporate rulers of the country thank you for your loyalty to their narratives.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 05:31 PM
Capitalist nonsense. The corporate rulers of the country thank you for your loyalty to their narratives.

You said you live in NY didn't you? So do I.

My taxes are paying your salary. You're the one robbing from me.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 05:33 PM
You said you live in NY didn't you? So do I.

My taxes are paying your salary. You're the one robbing from me.
I do not live in NYC, but if someone is robbing you it's a good thing because you are evil as shit and definitely hoard money.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 05:38 PM
I do not live in NYC, but if someone is robbing you it's a good thing because you are evil as shit and definitely hoard money.

Who the hell even goes to the library anymore? In what way does your community benefit by paying you a yearly salary?

Genuinely asking here.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 05:39 PM
Who the hell even goes to the library anymore? In what way does your community benefit by paying you a yearly salary?

Genuinely asking here.
Lots of people go to the library. You wouldn't know because you never interact with people in real life and spend all your time whining about trans women.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 05:42 PM
Lots of people go to the library. You wouldn't know because you never interact with people in real life and spend all your time whining about trans women.

Who goes to the library? What does your daily job entail?

RRR3
10-06-2023, 05:53 PM
Who goes to the library? What does your daily job entail?
College students, parents and their children, teachers, and the elderly. We are busy every day. It’s not just books libraries either but you seem to live in 1925 so I imagine you’re unaware of that. I said already my daily job consists of scanning people’s books in and reshelving them.

warriorfan
10-06-2023, 06:04 PM
Go back to school or learn a good trade or something man

You don’t want to be shelving books forever. That’s some real loser shit. You are literally wasting your life away.

rmt
10-06-2023, 06:20 PM
In Florida, libraries are funded by the counties (not the federal or state government). Some are much better than others - usually one can buy a membership for another county for a year.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 06:32 PM
Go back to school or learn a good trade or something man

You don’t want to be shelving books forever. That’s some real loser shit. You are literally wasting your life away.
Winners spend all their day smoking crack instead.

warriorfan
10-06-2023, 06:40 PM
Winners spend all their day smoking crack instead.

stop making excuses and just do something with your life before it’s too late. at the path you are going you are gonna wake up one day in 10 years and kill yourself

Baller234
10-06-2023, 06:41 PM
College students, parents and their children, teachers, and the elderly. We are busy every day. It’s not just books libraries either but you seem to live in 1925 so I imagine you’re unaware of that. I said already my daily job consists of scanning people’s books in and reshelving them.

Wow, for a second I thought you were going to lie and add more to your job description so it looked like you had more responsibility than you actually did.

It sounds like you have a pretty easy going job with little responsibility. I don't know how much you're being paid but off the top of my head that sounds like a job position that should be paid around $12-$15 an hour at most.

I know they're paying you more than that though. Chalk it up to "mismanagement" I suppose.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 06:50 PM
Wow, for a second I thought you were going to lie and add more to your job description so it looked like you had more responsibility than you actually did.

It sounds like you have a pretty easy going job with little responsibility. I don't know how much you're being paid but off the top of my head that sounds like a job position that should be paid around $12-$15 an hour at most.

I know they're paying you more than that though. Chalk it up to "mismanagement" I suppose.
How are you constantly angry and bitter? It cannot be healthy.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 06:51 PM
stop making excuses and just do something with your life before it’s too late. at the path you are going you are gonna wake up one day in 10 years and kill yourself
Hunter, the only reason you're not in prison is because your dad is President. Have some self-awareness, champ

warriorfan
10-06-2023, 06:53 PM
Wow, for a second I thought you were going to lie and add more to your job description so it looked like you had more responsibility than you actually did.

It sounds like you have a pretty easy going job with little responsibility. I don't know how much you're being paid but off the top of my head that sounds like a job position that should be paid around $12-$15 an hour at most.

I know they're paying you more than that though. Chalk it up to "mismanagement" I suppose.

If he saw himself in the mirror he would call himself hitler and say that he’s stealing money from poor people, thus causing them to loot and riot

Baller234
10-06-2023, 06:54 PM
How are you constantly angry and bitter? It cannot be healthy.

If you have the right to say Apple employees are underpaid, I have the right to say that you're overpaid. Especially considering that I'm contributing to your salary as a taxpayer.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 06:56 PM
If you have the right to say Apple employees are underpaid, I have the right to say that you're overpaid. Especially considering that I'm contributing to your salary as a taxpayer.
Since when do you believe in rights lol

Baller234
10-06-2023, 07:02 PM
Since when do you believe in rights lol

You have an entry level position that requires little to no skill. Anyone that can read and has cognitive function can perform your job.

I'm not saying this to insult you. You're free to work any type of job you want. But it speaks to how government funds are "mismanaged" when it comes to just about everything they have a hand in.

So if you're making out, one can only imagine how much money is being skimmed by the actual power players. Probably millions.

warriorfan
10-06-2023, 07:08 PM
If someone worked in a clerical position for Nazi Germany…Do they get a pass or what?

RRR3
10-06-2023, 07:25 PM
You have an entry level position that requires little to no skill. Anyone that can read and has cognitive function can perform your job.

I'm not saying this to insult you. You're free to work any type of job you want. But it speaks to how government funds are "mismanaged" when it comes to just about everything they have a hand in.

So if you're making out, one can only imagine how much money is being skimmed by the actual power players. Probably millions.
Anyone who can read and has cognitive function can be a politician lol. And most average people off the street would do better than the idiots in DC. You thought you had something here I guess.

RRR3
10-06-2023, 07:26 PM
If someone worked in a clerical position for Nazi Germany…Do they get a pass or what?
You have CTE.

Nanners
10-08-2023, 04:51 AM
And Eric Adams flying to Mexico himself on a 4 stop Latin America tour to discourage migrants from coming to the US. When Trump did stuff like that y'all called him racist. The NY Mayor also just suspended NYC's decades old "right to shelter" for migrants. If Trump did that the libtards would also call him racist.

The real reason is Eric Adams being flown to south america is not to discourage migrants... recently he has been openly antagonistic to the migrant policies pushed by the globalists, and as mayor of NYC the *legal* human traffickers (aka the NGO's and UN) want him to shut up and join their side.