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Baller234
10-06-2023, 02:24 PM
In other sports like football, divisional rivalries and regional rivalries are a huge part of the game. There's always a different feeling in the air when you're playing a neighboring team or a division rival.

The NBA just doesn't have this. They pretend to have rivalries, but in reality they're all manufactured. By putting more emphasis on divisions, and having them play a larger role in both the schedule and the eventual playoff seeding, I think it would drive a lot more interest into the games.

I could already see Knicks-Sixers-Celtics being a huge deal. Also Lakers-Warriors-Suns.

L.Kizzle
10-06-2023, 02:33 PM
They play a handful of games in football and that's how seeding is determined.
Every NBA teams plays its division counterpart 4 times.

Kblaze8855
10-06-2023, 02:50 PM
Divisions used to matter so much I remember banner hangings for division title wins from some of the poverty franchises. That said…rivalries died with player movement.

The players move around so much most of the league are friends and teams are battling the same group of guys vs another and developing hatred and a history of big plays and letdowns.

Friendly ass league and fans who can’t even get used to a core results in less passion from everyone.

Axe
10-06-2023, 03:01 PM
A braindead retard considers the bulls/pistons to be one of the best rivalries in the league ever. :oldlol:

rawimpact
10-06-2023, 03:14 PM
A braindead retard considers the bulls/pistons to be one of the best rivalries in the league ever. :oldlol:

Badboy pistons against the bulls were the most entertaining games to watch. I don't blame you for not knowing since your older siblings were still being swallowed.

Axe
10-06-2023, 03:23 PM
^^Imagine being a bitter ass bitch like this sucker above me but at the same time, still can't stop following me. :roll:

Lol what a moron.

Baller234
10-06-2023, 04:00 PM
They play a handful of games in football and that's how seeding is determined.
Every NBA teams plays its division counterpart 4 times.

Right but it has no baring on playoff seeding in the NBA, that's the problem. Knicks fans don't really have a reason to care more just because the Knicks are playing the Celtics. It's just 4 games out of 82. If you're including all division games, it's still just 16 out of 82. But if winning your division meant home court in the 1st round for example, now all of sudden those divisional games take on a whole new meaning.

I might even propose seeding the division winners 1-3 and then the 2nd place in each division from 4-6. Just a thought.

Real Men Wear Green
10-06-2023, 04:45 PM
The reason the NBA stopped guaranteeing a division winner a top 3 seed is that it rewards mediocrity. You should not give a 40+ win team the 2 seed while a 50+ win team is fourth. There could even be a team that's second in its division but doesn't have a top 8 conference record.

Rivalry is created by playoff series and there are a few of them in the NBA today. Celtics for example have rivalry with the Sixers Heart and Bucks. Knicks aren't as high on that list because they haven't been good enough for a while now. If they have series with the Celtics it could be a rivalry again.

Full Court
10-06-2023, 06:04 PM
A braindead retard considers the bulls/pistons to be one of the best rivalries in the league ever. :oldlol:

Wow. ^This autistic idiot has no idea that the Bulls/Pistons was the second biggest rivalry in NBA history after the Lakers/Celtics.

Not suprised at all that he would have a retarded take though.

Axe
10-06-2023, 06:55 PM
Lmao his bloody meltdowns have begun. What a triggered sore loser. :oldlol:

Jasper
10-06-2023, 07:58 PM
Badboy pistons against the bulls were the most entertaining games to watch. I don't blame you for not knowing since your older siblings were still being swallowed.

True ---

I remember the 70's thru 80's Bucks won division after division , but could not get past 6ers' Celtics ...

Their gym still has those banners.

Full Court
10-06-2023, 08:25 PM
Lmao his bloody meltdowns have begun. What a triggered sore loser. :oldlol:

Biatch having a bitch fit. :lol

Autistic. And stinky.

Axe
10-06-2023, 08:42 PM
The reason the NBA stopped guaranteeing a division winner a top 3 seed is that it rewards mediocrity. You should not give a 40+ win team the 2 seed while a 50+ win team is fourth. There could even be a team that's second in its division but doesn't have a top 8 conference record.

Rivalry is created by playoff series and there are a few of them in the NBA today. Celtics for example have rivalry with the Sixers Heart and Bucks. Knicks aren't as high on that list because they haven't been good enough for a while now. If they have series with the Celtics it could be a rivalry again.
*Heat lol

I feel like the rivalry between the heat and the celtics has been the recent intense one. (https://i.ibb.co/g4tnXnv/IMG-20230626-052542.jpg)

Full Court
10-06-2023, 08:46 PM
In other sports like football, divisional rivalries and regional rivalries are a huge part of the game. There's always a different feeling in the air when you're playing a neighboring team or a division rival.

The NBA just doesn't have this. They pretend to have rivalries, but in reality they're all manufactured. By putting more emphasis on divisions, and having them play a larger role in both the schedule and the eventual playoff seeding, I think it would drive a lot more interest into the games.

I could already see Knicks-Sixers-Celtics being a huge deal. Also Lakers-Warriors-Suns.

I feel like the Lakers/Grizzlies could turn into a legit rivalry. There was some bad blood between the two teams in the last playoffs, and Bronie fluffers for some reason HATE Ja Morant. :lol

Baller234
10-06-2023, 09:24 PM
The reason the NBA stopped guaranteeing a division winner a top 3 seed is that it rewards mediocrity. You should not give a 40+ win team the 2 seed while a 50+ win team is fourth. There could even be a team that's second in its division but doesn't have a top 8 conference record.

Rivalry is created by playoff series and there are a few of them in the NBA today. Celtics for example have rivalry with the Sixers Heart and Bucks. Knicks aren't as high on that list because they haven't been good enough for a while now. If they have series with the Celtics it could be a rivalry again.

You could argue the NBA is already awarding mediocrity. More than half the league already makes the playoffs, which means middle of the road teams are going to be rewarded no matter what.

Also, the argument you just made about divisions could just as easily be applied to conferences. The eastern conference was the "leastern" conference for 20 years, and year after year you saw better western conference teams struggling to make the cut.

I say if you're not going to emphasize divisions whatsoever, then you may as well not even have them at all. But if you're going to to have them, then make them count and make them mean something. If lesser teams get rewarded because they're in a shittier division then so be it. If you want a top seed then win your effing division.

There have to be more stakes to these regular season games.

Axe
10-06-2023, 10:00 PM
You could argue the NBA is already awarding mediocrity. More than half the league already makes the playoffs, which means middle of the road teams are going to be rewarded no matter what.

Also, the argument you just made about divisions could just as easily be applied to conferences. The eastern conference was the "leastern" conference for 20 years, and year after year you saw better western conference teams struggling to make the cut.

I say if you're not going to emphasize divisions whatsoever, then you may as well not even have them at all. But if you're going to to have them, then make them count and make them mean something. If lesser teams get rewarded because they're in a shittier division then so be it. If you want a top seed then win your effing division.

There have to be more stakes to these regular season games.
I guess that's why they made the play-ins in the first place lmao. (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgJlaYykOeriV0g-CmztDbyLIB7OzQHuDISg&usqp=CAU)

Full Court
10-07-2023, 08:43 AM
You could argue the NBA is already awarding mediocrity. More than half the league already makes the playoffs, which means middle of the road teams are going to be rewarded no matter what.

Also, the argument you just made about divisions could just as easily be applied to conferences. The eastern conference was the "leastern" conference for 20 years, and year after year you saw better western conference teams struggling to make the cut.

I say if you're not going to emphasize divisions whatsoever, then you may as well not even have them at all. But if you're going to to have them, then make them count and make them mean something. If lesser teams get rewarded because they're in a shittier division then so be it. If you want a top seed then win your effing division.

There have to be more stakes to these regular season games.

I agree. And the play-in nonsense contributes to it even more.

Baller234
10-07-2023, 11:27 AM
I agree. And the play-in nonsense contributes to it even more.

Theoretically if the three division winners were seeded 1-3 and then the next best team in each division were seeded 4-6, that would leave the last two spots up for grabs. Either keep the play-in or just designate them as "wild card" spots and give them to the best two records remaining in the conference.

This approach might also give more fanbases across the league hope going into the season. You're not competing against the entire conference anymore, you're just competing against 4 other teams. And all you have to do is be one of the two best teams in your division.

Norcaliblunt
10-07-2023, 12:13 PM
They have moved on from socially engineering division amongst people through regional rivals and now prefer promoting globalism.

Simple as that.

Axe
10-07-2023, 03:12 PM
They have moved on from socially engineering division amongst people through regional rivals and now prefer promoting globalism.

Simple as that.
I guess it makes sense when you consider the number of international talents these days. (https://i.ibb.co/9sM1BRX/IMG-20230123-110228.jpg)

8Ball
10-07-2023, 04:17 PM
In other sports like football, divisional rivalries and regional rivalries are a huge part of the game. There's always a different feeling in the air when you're playing a neighboring team or a division rival.

The NBA just doesn't have this. They pretend to have rivalries, but in reality they're all manufactured. By putting more emphasis on divisions, and having them play a larger role in both the schedule and the eventual playoff seeding, I think it would drive a lot more interest into the games.

I could already see Knicks-Sixers-Celtics being a huge deal. Also Lakers-Warriors-Suns.

This is just nostalgia talking. Plenty of rivalries in the league.

Norcaliblunt
10-07-2023, 04:53 PM
Regional rivalries are all bad. Being from California where North vs South is the longest running war in American history I’d say no more division.

Giants vs Dodgers is on some state politics violent shit. The NBA doesn’t need that.