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iamgine
10-09-2023, 10:41 PM
Will Israel wipe HAMAS within a few days/weeks and install a more amicable group in Palestine? Or Will the war prolong into months/years like the Ukrainian war? Will Israel just take over the whole GAZA strip?

Regardless of who's right/wrong, what do you think the end result will be?

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2023, 10:49 PM
I think Hamas is gonna find itself on the business end of a Great Reset, and when the dust settles Israel is gonna Build Back Better.

bladefd
10-09-2023, 10:53 PM
End result? The cycle of revenge & hate to continue. Israel is not going to wipe out Hamas. Some other group will rise up from the remnants to take Hamas' place. Not to sound cynical, but it's been going on for ages & not stopping anytime soon.

Baller234
10-09-2023, 11:31 PM
I think before Israel does anything drastic, they should try RRR3's plan and see if Hamas would be willing to partake in his "freedom of movement" initiative.

ShawkFactory
10-10-2023, 12:29 AM
I think Hamas is gonna find itself on the business end of a Great Reset, and when the dust settles Israel is gonna Build Back Better.

Yea this will probably show 'em who's boss. Nothing like this has even happened over there before.

GimmeThat
10-10-2023, 01:09 AM
some cancer cells on HAMAS end relapsed, Israel will most likely employ chemo therapy, if HAMAS follow suit, great, if not, their strategy will be exposed in broad day light

BurningHammer
10-10-2023, 01:15 AM
The heads of Hamas are not even in Gaza. How IDF is gonna end this while they are chilling in Hamas ordering their soldiers distantly?

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2023, 01:24 AM
Yea this will probably show 'em who's boss. Nothing like this has even happened over there before.


Life is like a bicycle. The repeating cycles move us forward.

ShawkFactory
10-10-2023, 01:35 AM
Life is like a bicycle. The repeating cycles move us forward.

Straight into the pit.

GimmeThat
10-10-2023, 01:36 AM
Life is like a bicycle. The repeating cycles move us forward.

it's more like a unicycle, you only think you're moving forward because your weight pushes you that way. there's also onward, and upward.

Kblaze8855
10-10-2023, 09:13 AM
There is nothing either side can do to win this conflict that won’t have them remembered along side the worst people in human history. Neither side is going to quit, and both sides produce too many orphans and widows to stop the next generation from growing up with hate in their heart.

When you lose your home through global politics and war you’re going to be salty about it. When the people who were given and fought for the land you were on now consider that land theirs and had children who had children youre forever beefing with people who themselves had nothing to do with your situation, but to your family represent the problem.

all the original combatants and decision makers are gone, but what do you have left are millions of people who all have skin in the game, dead family and horror stories. You have a huge number of people born into a conflict they had nothing to do with surrounded by barbed wire, tanks and gun ships that keep them locked in conditions worse than most of us can imagine, but the people locking them in are facing constant attacks from within what is essentially an internment camp so you can’t blame them for defending themselves either.

whatever outsiders, think, I’m sure both sides see the other side as terrorists. If you’re just going about your day, having nothing to do with violence, and somebody blows up your building and your baby is dead in the rubble you aren’t thinking about big picture conflicts, and how this all started and how it’s justified. You’re gonna go pick up a gun.

Well the people you shoot at likely didn’t have shit to do with your dead baby. But now their surviving children are growing up looking for get back raised by an uncle who had to bury their mother and father.

in all honesty, if I’m born in a ****ed up prison I personally did nothing to deserve and you’re at the wall of that prison with guns and tanks? I’m going to see you as my enemy. But at the same time, if I’m born on the other side of that fence and you’re shooting rockets at my grandmas house while we’re gathered for some holiday and I’m the only one left, I’m volunteering to stand at the wall and keep you mother****ers in it. At bare minimum.

There are some beefs that words can’t settle. If you kill my child, I’m coming for you. And that isnt tough guy talk. You might beat my ass and kill me too but best believe I’m not gonna see you across the fence and not plot to get to your ass. But it’s entirely possible you killed my daughter because my uncle killed your brother and half his soccer team doesn’t make me let it slide. Especially because my uncle only killed your brother because people wearing the same uniform he wore leveled a Hospital to get to some criminal we had nothing do do with.


At this point, it doesn’t actually matter who you blame because it’s too personal. These people aren’t talking politics and Twitter statements. It’s a bunch of people who all feel like the other side has wronged them too much to be thinking about collateral damage. And once you get to that point both sides consider the other sides terrorists.

And who lays down their arms when they’re under what they consider terrorist attack? What outsiders consider it is only relevant to them as far as it dictates humanitarian and military aid.

I don’t see how anybody can reasonably expect Israel to stand down and take having their people shot up and bombed regardless of what the Palestinians feel the justification is. And I don’t know how anybody expects people to be born and grow up in what is essentially a prison they did not earn sentencing in and walk through streets of rubble and over dead bodies, hearing stories of generations of oppression, and not grow up and want to fight.

this should have been settled long ago by moving one of these groups into more friendly territory, but all the countries so outraged by it, don’t step up and take them.

I just wish I could see a world where America carved off some of the vast empty Midwest, or something on the Mexican border and gave the Jews that. It would’ve been unbelievably unpopular, but I don’t think it creates a war that never ends. England also could have stepped up. The west went in and redrew maps like it’s a game.

all of the Arab nations have space to take in the Palestinians and they won’t apparently. The ****ed up status quo is too established at this point, but I just wish somebody had some foresight at the start. If America is too far they should have given the Jews some of the axis territory. Would have still been conflict but I suspect if west Germany had just been made new Israel we wouldn’t be seeing all this now.

Long story short, you can’t tell Israel not to blow up a compound where some terrorists are hiding who just killed 200 their citizens. But if you think you can tell some guy who went to work and came back to find his family dead in the rubble that now he needs to go make peace with who did it you’re a ****ing idiot.

nobody is listening anymore, so if you aren’t prepared to end the war by destroying one of the groups, all you can do is get out of the way. the problem was created by dead people we can’t hold accountable and it’s too personal by both sides to let it go. It just is what it is at this point.

GimmeThat
10-10-2023, 09:21 AM
all it takes is a gut check to truly measure, just how bad the bad times were, and how good the good times were.

bladefd
10-10-2023, 01:53 PM
There is nothing either side can do to win this conflict that won’t have them remembered along side the worst people in human history. Neither side is going to quit, and both sides produce too many orphans and widows to stop the next generation from growing up with hate in their heart.

When you lose your home through global politics and war you’re going to be salty about it. When the people who were given and fought for the land you were on now consider that land theirs and had children who had children youre forever beefing with people who themselves had nothing to do with your situation, but to your family represent the problem.

all the original combatants and decision makers are gone, but what do you have left are millions of people who all have skin in the game, dead family and horror stories. You have a huge number of people born into a conflict they had nothing to do with surrounded by barbed wire, tanks and gun ships that keep them locked in conditions worse than most of us can imagine, but the people locking them in are facing constant attacks from within what is essentially an internment camp so you can’t blame them for defending themselves either.

whatever outsiders, think, I’m sure both sides see the other side as terrorists. If you’re just going about your day, having nothing to do with violence, and somebody blows up your building and your baby is dead in the rubble you aren’t thinking about big picture conflicts, and how this all started and how it’s justified. You’re gonna go pick up a gun.

Well the people you shoot at likely didn’t have shit to do with your dead baby. But now their surviving children are growing up looking for get back raised by an uncle who had to bury their mother and father.

in all honesty, if I’m born in a ****ed up prison I personally did nothing to deserve and you’re at the wall of that prison with guns and tanks? I’m going to see you as my enemy. But at the same time, if I’m born on the other side of that fence and you’re shooting rockets at my grandmas house while we’re gathered for some holiday and I’m the only one left, I’m volunteering to stand at the wall and keep you mother****ers in it. At bare minimum.

There are some beefs that words can’t settle. If you kill my child, I’m coming for you. And that isnt tough guy talk. You might beat my ass and kill me too but best believe I’m not gonna see you across the fence and not plot to get to your ass. But it’s entirely possible you killed my daughter because my uncle killed your brother and half his soccer team doesn’t make me let it slide. Especially because my uncle only killed your brother because people wearing the same uniform he wore leveled a Hospital to get to some criminal we had nothing do do with.


At this point, it doesn’t actually matter who you blame because it’s too personal. These people aren’t talking politics and Twitter statements. It’s a bunch of people who all feel like the other side has wronged them too much to be thinking about collateral damage. And once you get to that point both sides consider the other sides terrorists.

And who lays down their arms when they’re under what they consider terrorist attack? What outsiders consider it is only relevant to them as far as it dictates humanitarian and military aid.

I don’t see how anybody can reasonably expect Israel to stand down and take having their people shot up and bombed regardless of what the Palestinians feel the justification is. And I don’t know how anybody expects people to be born and grow up in what is essentially a prison they did not earn sentencing in and walk through streets of rubble and over dead bodies, hearing stories of generations of oppression, and not grow up and want to fight.

this should have been settled long ago by moving one of these groups into more friendly territory, but all the countries so outraged by it, don’t step up and take them.

I just wish I could see a world where America carved off some of the vast empty Midwest, or something on the Mexican border and gave the Jews that. It would’ve been unbelievably unpopular, but I don’t think it creates a war that never ends. England also could have stepped up. The west went in and redrew maps like it’s a game.

all of the Arab nations have space to take in the Palestinians and they won’t apparently. The ****ed up status quo is too established at this point, but I just wish somebody had some foresight at the start. If America is too far they should have given the Jews some of the axis territory. Would have still been conflict but I suspect if west Germany had just been made new Israel we wouldn’t be seeing all this now.

Long story short, you can’t tell Israel not to blow up a compound where some terrorists are hiding who just killed 200 their citizens. But if you think you can tell some guy who went to work and came back to find his family dead in the rubble that now he needs to go make peace with who did it you’re a ****ing idiot.

nobody is listening anymore, so if you aren’t prepared to end the war by destroying one of the groups, all you can do is get out of the way. the problem was created by dead people we can’t hold accountable and it’s too personal by both sides to let it go. It just is what it is at this point.

Couldn't have said it any better. You are right on the money.

Unfortunately that region has been unstable going back over 2,000 years back to the days after the fall of Babylon, looong before Islam was even created. Islam with its idea of jihad made it even worse. I don't see it getting better anytime soon.

TeflonDonTrump
10-10-2023, 01:56 PM
Another sect is going to grow just like the taliban and isis

HoopsNY
10-10-2023, 02:56 PM
Another sect is going to grow just like the taliban and isis

Yep; and they will try to infiltrate our border. Unfortunately, no one wants to close our borders, so here we are.

TheMan
10-10-2023, 07:32 PM
End result? The cycle of revenge & hate to continue. Israel is not going to wipe out Hamas. Some other group will rise up from the remnants to take Hamas' place. Not to sound cynical, but it's been going on for ages & not stopping anytime soon.

That's not cynical, that's being realistic

iamgine
10-11-2023, 01:41 AM
End result? The cycle of revenge & hate to continue. Israel is not going to wipe out Hamas. Some other group will rise up from the remnants to take Hamas' place. Not to sound cynical, but it's been going on for ages & not stopping anytime soon.

That's in the long run. How about the shorter term?

GimmeThat
10-11-2023, 02:35 AM
That's in the long run. How about the shorter term?

in all honesty, from a guy who believed that supporting gay marriage means more ***** for me, the Israel-HAMAS war does mean more land for me

John8204
10-11-2023, 02:54 AM
Will Israel wipe HAMAS within a few days/weeks and install a more amicable group in Palestine? Or Will the war prolong into months/years like the Ukrainian war? Will Israel just take over the whole GAZA strip?

Regardless of who's right/wrong, what do you think the end result will be?

I think that Gaza will be raised to the ground and the survivors will be either imprisoned, executed, or removed to Palestine, Iran, Egypt, and Jordan. Hamas crossed the line and committed an act of terrorism on a massive scale. This isn't a "war" because the Palestinians haven't followed the rules of war. Israel will not run an apartheid state.

The next step is for the global community to address the genocides in the middle eastern region. The regions have been littered with ethnic cleansing over the years this needs to come to an end.

GimmeThat
10-11-2023, 03:07 AM
again, it's 9/11 on repeat, and the only thing that'll end up missing, are the witches in history



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8U6x9ClAss

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2023, 12:24 PM
What I would hope for is a complete takeover and annexation of Gaza. Those who remain, remain under Israeli rule and law. Those who wish to flee to the West Bank can do so and remain there permanently.

bladefd
10-11-2023, 12:40 PM
Fake or not?

https://i.ibb.co/KVSyczN/letter.png

BurningHammer
10-11-2023, 01:08 PM
Fake or not?

https://i.ibb.co/KVSyczN/letter.png

It could be written 3 days ago. :confusedshrug:

MrFonzworth
10-11-2023, 03:27 PM
Fake or not?

https://i.ibb.co/KVSyczN/letter.png

Who actually believes this:roll:

Lakers Legend#32
10-11-2023, 07:19 PM
What I would hope for is a complete takeover and annexation of Gaza. Those who remain, remain under Israeli rule and law. Those who wish to flee to the West Bank can do so and remain there permanently.

This should be done to the American South.

Baller234
10-11-2023, 07:29 PM
This should be done to the American South.

The fact that you just equated the Hamas terrorists to Americans is utterly despicable.

You're an evil, hateful scumbag.

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2023, 07:52 PM
The fact that you just equated the Hamas terrorists to Americans is utterly despicable.

You're an evil, hateful scumbag.

You cannot reason with this brand of Liberal. They are no better than the terrorists they defend. They want to see the country burn and they wish they could get a crack at Conservatives. But their cowardice is too much for them. It overwhelms people like Lakers and the other dipshits in here. They know a Conservative would open a gaping hole in their head or chest if they ever came at them and threatened their way of life.

iamgine
10-11-2023, 10:23 PM
HAMAS is one thing but will this end in Israel having a full out war with Hezbollah and god forbid Iran? Those are much much stronger enemies than HAMAS.

BurningHammer
10-11-2023, 11:46 PM
HAMAS is one thing but will this end in Israel having a full out war with Hezbollah and god forbid Iran? Those are much much stronger enemies than HAMAS.

Israel couldn't even anticipate Hamas attack. How can they deal with bigger threats?

RRR3
10-11-2023, 11:47 PM
Israel couldn't even anticipate Hamas attack. How can they deal with bigger threats?
Netanyahu was warned about the possibility of an attack by Egypt and he ignored it actually.

BurningHammer
10-11-2023, 11:58 PM
Netanyahu was warned about the possibility of an attack by Egypt and he ignored it actually.

Intentionally ignored? This old mfer funds Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

And now it backfires spectacularly. He should be put on trail for treason.

RRR3
10-12-2023, 12:00 AM
Intentionally ignored? This old mfer funds Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

And now it backfires spectacularly. He should be put on trail for treason.
Of course he did. Hamas makes it easier for him to justify killing innocent Palestinians as "fighting terrorists" to the media

Nanners
10-14-2023, 08:35 AM
Once you understand that Hamas was created by Israel to combat the PLO, and is currently used as a tool to create division within palestine supporters and create beneficial propaganda for israel globally, it is obvious that the only way that the so-called "Israel-Hamas war" can end is if Hamas is no longer useful for Israel, which will only happen when the zionists have fully ethnically cleansed the palestinians from their homeland.

ILLsmak
10-14-2023, 09:29 PM
Israel couldn't even anticipate Hamas attack. How can they deal with bigger threats?

HMM lol "US moves another carrier into the region."

It's probably just theater like everything else (rip the thousands to hundreds of thousands of people that have to die in these sort of shows,) but this strikes me as something that is 'different' than the rest. I mean I remember BB was about to get voted out or something, or am I trippin?

I have this weird feeling shit is about to get real.

-Smak

MrFonzworth
10-15-2023, 03:42 AM
Once you understand that Hamas was created by Israel to combat the PLO, and is currently used as a tool to create division within palestine supporters and create beneficial propaganda for israel globally, it is obvious that the only way that the so-called "Israel-Hamas war" can end is if Hamas is no longer useful for Israel, which will only happen when the zionists have fully ethnically cleansed the palestinians from their homeland.

:roll: