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Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 11:03 AM
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Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 11:05 AM
I’m going with team three. Admittedly not with much conviction. I just feel like it’s a really tough mix of people to deal with at once.

Real Men Wear Green
10-19-2023, 11:19 AM
Team 1 because the whole roster is guys that can play at a high level on both ends. Can switch well and Paul and KG would have an easier time accepting a role than most other stars.

warriorfan
10-19-2023, 11:22 AM
four

tpols
10-19-2023, 11:45 AM
In these hypotheticals the talent is so overwhelming, only chemistry and defense can be considered. Teams 1 and 4 are the most balanced in that regard.

dankok8
10-19-2023, 11:46 AM
Team 2 is the worst because give Lebron the ball and AI and Stockton are somewhat useless. And if you play off of Shaq, the other guys aren't great enough shooters to make you pay for collapsing.

Team 4 and Team 1 fit really well together. Everyone except Wade is a good shooter that can play off-ball. Ditto for Paul who will set up the other guys who play off-ball. Team 3 is good but Giannis is pretty useless off ball on offense and he won't see it much with Magic and MJ dominating. I also feel like Jokic and Dirk can be taken advantage of a bit on defense by the big men on other teams. But still with Magic and MJ this team probably gets great shots and Giannis can just focus on defense. It's really any team except Team 2 which has the talent but is very poorly constructed.

tpols
10-19-2023, 11:49 AM
Team 2 though is easily the worst mix. Bad spacing and 3 guys who love to dribble. I could see team 3 winning on MJ and Magic together alone despite the awkward big man lineup with no small forward.

Baller234
10-19-2023, 11:51 AM
off the top without giving it too much thought, team 4.

looks like they have the most complementary peaces and everyone can fit comfortably into their role.

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 12:11 PM
In these hypotheticals the talent is so overwhelming, only chemistry and defense can be considered. Teams 1 and 4 are the most balanced in that regard.


I feel like magic dirk and Jokic would require truly overwhelming idiocy in the other two positions for the team as a whole to not have incredible chemistry. I certainly don’t see Giannis or Jordan doing anything to ruin it.

Wardell Curry
10-19-2023, 12:22 PM
I feel like magic dirk and Jokic would require truly overwhelming idiocy in the other two positions for the team as a whole to not have incredible chemistry. I certainly don’t see Giannis or Jordan doing anything to ruin it.

What era?

Teams two and three don't have enough three point shooting.

Four "only" has Curry and Bird.

Team one by default.

tpols
10-19-2023, 12:25 PM
I feel like magic dirk and Jokic would require truly overwhelming idiocy in the other two positions for the team as a whole to not have incredible chemistry. I certainly don’t see Giannis or Jordan doing anything to ruin it.

It's honestly a total crapshoot if they were to play each other. Any team could potentially win at any time. There's no way to predict it. Learned that through fantasy football and gambling. Any day could be a win or loss no matter how much research or Intel you have on your side. These superstar matches only make it more unpredictable.

SouBeachTalents
10-19-2023, 12:25 PM
I don’t like the setup of team 3 at all, you’d be playing Dirk at the 3? :lol Way too many chefs in the kitchen on this one.

Team 2 is a terrible fit with LeBron/Duncan/Shaq in the frontcourt, and Iverson is just absolutely atrocious in lineups like these.

It def comes down to either 1 or 4, and while I’m not a fan of Malone on this team, the rest of the lineup is absolutely nasty.

post
10-19-2023, 12:27 PM
https://i.ibb.co/cF467g4/00100450266-l-S01-Vp2-1.jpg

Carbine
10-19-2023, 12:32 PM
Team 1 because the whole roster is guys that can play at a high level on both ends. Can switch well and Paul and KG would have an easier time accepting a role than most other stars.

I don't agree with this in regards to their opponent being #3

Paul on Magic is not a good matchup. Very exploitable.

Same if you put him on the best offensive player ever, MJ. Paul in his prime is terrific guarding point guards, but he's a liability when he has to matchup up the likes of those two.

Team #3 has the best PG and SG of all time. Jokic is the most efficient Center ever. It's just a whole lot of fire power with two stretch bigs. It just fits.

By the way, Giannis is the best screen and roller in basketball as far as analysts go. His non shooting is a no issue when you can use him in this regard on this particular team.

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 12:32 PM
It's honestly a total crapshoot if they were to play each other. Any team could potentially win at any time. There's no way to predict it. Learned that through fantasy football and gambling. Any day could be a win or loss no matter how much research or Intel you have on your side. These superstar matches only make it more unpredictable.

well, sure, in the real world, I would expect the worst of them to win 78 games and possibly sweep the playoffs depending on the injury and load management situation throughout the year. Whoever the worst team is could still beat the best one. I’m just saying magic, Jokic, and Dirk set a pretty high standard far as generating chemistry.

WhiteKyrie
10-19-2023, 12:35 PM
When in doubt, GOAT, so team 3

tpols
10-19-2023, 12:35 PM
I don’t like the setup of team 3 at all, you’d be playing Dirk at the 3? :lol Way too many chefs in the kitchen on this one.

Team 2 is a terrible fit with LeBron/Duncan/Shaq in the frontcourt, and Iverson is just absolutely atrocious in lineups like these.

It def comes down to either 1 or 4, and while I’m not a fan of Malone on this team, the rest of the lineup is absolutely nasty.

A steph curry or Dwayne Wade PnR with Karl Malone setting the picks and Larry Bird spacing the floor would be devastating. :lol Malone has some use on that squad.

iamgine
10-19-2023, 12:38 PM
I'd go with team 4 purely cause all these teams can protect the rim very well so Curry spamming bombs would be very useful. Plus Malone and Hakeem were excellent at setting screens.

Xiao Yao You
10-19-2023, 12:45 PM
3 or 4 certainly. I guess I'd have to go with 3 because it's hard to imagine MJ losing with that much talent

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 12:47 PM
A steph curry or Dwayne Wade PnR with Karl Malone setting the picks and Larry Bird spacing the floor would be devastating. :lol Malone has some use on that squad.

that’s the kind of lineup you could play with as a coach and really frustrate teams. I will come out one night and have a Larry bird the primary ball handler with Steph Curry setting picks for him. Get Malone to call Stockton to teach Steph to set those dirty bone crushing screens at that size because the refs look the other way when you have a small bully like Stockton. Steph is bigger and stronger than Stockton was and he set some of the most brutal picks of a way more physical era on a lot of big guys.

Just **** with people.

Real Men Wear Green
10-19-2023, 12:51 PM
I don't agree with this in regards to their opponent being #3

Paul on Magic is not a good matchup. Very exploitable.

Same if you put him on the best offensive player ever, MJ. Paul in his prime is terrific guarding point guards, but he's a liability when he has to matchup up the likes of those two.

Team #3 has the best PG and SG of all time. Jokic is the most efficient Center ever. It's just a whole lot of fire power with two stretch bigs. It just fits.

By the way, Giannis is the best screen and roller in basketball as far as analysts go. His non shooting is a no issue when you can use him in this regard on this particular team.

Magic was a difficult cover for all small guards but he can't check them either. Team 3 would have a large problem in that Jordan can only guard one guard and whoever he doesn't check is going off. Giannis had to guard Durant, Jordan has to check Bryant because Bryant would absolutely score 50 if he is isolated with Magic. No one shuts anyone down but Paul at his best was one of the best defensive guards in the league and could be respectable on Jordan with Bryant being ok for Magic, KD on Dirk, KG on Giannis, Jabbar on Jokic. These are all decent covers, no one is getting shut down but the defense is competent. On the flip side Magic and Dirk would absolutely get targeted and Jokic is only an average defender. Team 1 is both better defensively as well as better shooting.

Carbine
10-19-2023, 12:56 PM
Jokic is actually a good defender. He was making a noticable difference in the playoffs on that side of the ball.

CP is like 5'11. The size difference if he has to check Jordan is the biggest advantage for any of these teams, except for whoever Iverson has to guard.

Jordan posted up players 6'6 very effectively. He wouldn't even see CP3 when he turns around or faces him up and rises. It's not a point of "nobody is going to shut down" anyone on these lists, it's the fact that this would be a massive mismatch that would be exploited over and over again.

Xiao Yao You
10-19-2023, 12:57 PM
that’s the kind of lineup you could play with as a coach and really frustrate teams. I will come out one night and have a Larry bird the primary ball handler with Steph Curry setting picks for him. Get Malone to call Stockton to teach Steph to set those dirty bone crushing screens at that size because the refs look the other way when you have a small bully like Stockton. Steph is bigger and stronger than Stockton was and he set some of the most brutal picks of a way more physical era on a lot of big guys.

Just **** with people.

He's taller than Stockton not bigger or tougher. You can't teach what Stockton had

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 01:00 PM
I believe Steph is bigger though he is absolutely not tougher.

tpols
10-19-2023, 01:26 PM
That's crazy how Stockton was that tough. :lol 170lbs is weak but he made it happen somehow. I remember in the dream team documentary they did a bit where he walked around in Italy and made fun of how nobody could even recognize him and thought he was a tourist or whatever.

Real Men Wear Green
10-19-2023, 01:29 PM
Jokic is actually a good defender. He was making a noticable difference in the playoffs on that side of the ball.

CP is like 5'11. The size difference if he has to check Jordan is the biggest advantage for any of these teams, except for whoever Iverson has to guard.

Jordan posted up players 6'6 very effectively. He wouldn't even see CP3 when he turns around or faces him up and rises. It's not a point of "nobody is going to shut down" anyone on these lists, it's the fact that this would be a massive mismatch that would be exploited over and over again.
The best defender on Jordan was Joe Dumars. He wasn't 6'6 either. Jordan would score on Paul but the best way to do that would be in the paint. You can send a double off of Giannis, who is only going to be effective in the paint himself. You don't have anyone to send Magic or Dirk help off of on Team 3 when one of them is struggling defensively. Jokic is not a bad defender but he's not especially good on that end. He's never averaged a whole block per game. Jabbar has averaged as many as 4. And alongside him you have Kevin Garnett, not a major shotblocker but solid in that area and overall one of the great defenders in NBA history. The defense on Team 1 is easily far better and with the mismatches both teams may create that's going to be important.

tpols
10-19-2023, 01:30 PM
Here it is.


https://youtu.be/CEmacNvCj4A?si=CHykapKNZdFQVA9J

post
10-19-2023, 02:01 PM
team 5

https://i.ibb.co/y8yQ1fH/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-O6-Yzr-QCog-B04-1-1-1-1.jpg

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 02:08 PM
That's crazy how Stockton was that tough. :lol 170lbs is weak but he made it happen somehow. I remember in the dream team documentary they did a bit where he walked around in Italy and made fun of how nobody could even recognize him and thought he was a tourist or whatever.



Just sheer tenacity. Most people get pushed around because they allow it. He simply refused to allow you. You’re not shrugging off his screen.




https://i.ibb.co/C0f0tDw/IMG-6612.gif

Full Court
10-19-2023, 04:51 PM
Team 3.

But how did Chris Paul even get on there? He doesn't belong with everyone else.

Kblaze8855
10-19-2023, 04:55 PM
Team 3.

But how did Chris Paul even get on there? He doesn't belong with everyone else.

there are a few people there he belongs next to.

gonzaldo
10-19-2023, 05:59 PM
It's a good question actually, because i dont think there is an obvious answer. Team 3 probably, it has 3 players that dont need to shoot to affect the game positively and 3 players that dont need the ball in their hands to force the attention of the opponents. Who is the worst player of this team anyway, probably Dirk?

team 4 is probably the worst, but maybe the toughest at the same time.
also if we are going with the LA version of Lebron, 2 is the worst obviously.

SaltyMeatballs
10-19-2023, 06:42 PM
I'll give the edge to team 3.

red1
10-19-2023, 07:10 PM
team 4 is perfectly balanced

put the ball in dwade's hands and you have curry and bird on the wings plus hakeem and malone on the inside

Reggie43
10-19-2023, 10:38 PM
Team 4 is my kind of team and it would have been perfect if they had Stockton in there

post
10-20-2023, 06:09 PM
team 5

https://i.ibb.co/y8yQ1fH/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-O6-Yzr-QCog-B04-1-1-1-1.jpg

first 3 off the bench

https://i.ibb.co/sgffFXL/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-u-Jy-OB0-BVa73-1.jpg

FilmyCogTurner
10-20-2023, 09:27 PM
Team 3. Magic, Jokic and Jordan (very underrated for his passing) would be setting the offense up in so many ways. Dirk's lights out shooting, Giannis rim rolling and their own abilities would be too much for other teams to contend with.

One of these teams need Zeke, probably in replacement of CP and I love AI but that backcourt with Stockton is too small. Nice thread.

Overdrive
10-21-2023, 08:45 AM
I’m going with team three. Admittedly not with much conviction. I just feel like it’s a really tough mix of people to deal with at once.

Team 1. I think they're the best fit and possess 2 way ability at any position. Chris Paul and Kobe can handle the ball and they don't eat into the other players strengthes as much.

Team 3 has the most individual talent I think, but it's a bad fit, because they exactly do that. The combo takes away their individual strengthes.

Team 2 isn't close to the others in make up.

4 is alright, but Karl Malone?

post
10-21-2023, 04:14 PM
https://i.ibb.co/cF467g4/00100450266-l-S01-Vp2-1.jpg

the prince of darkness/the claw/the bald mamba off the bench sounds like a horror movie

https://i.ibb.co/5rgYwb1/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-l-S3-D0-A225-Tk-RX-1.jpg

post
10-21-2023, 06:11 PM
the prince of darkness/the claw/the bald mamba off the bench sounds like a horror movie

https://i.ibb.co/5rgYwb1/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-l-S3-D0-A225-Tk-RX-1.jpg

death lineup

https://i.ibb.co/m5fZHK6/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-sa-Hhg-ODxb0q-E-1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/S7GcwkJ/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-PRwpivpu-MU0-IS03u-1.jpg

post
10-22-2023, 03:06 AM
first 3 off the bench

https://i.ibb.co/sgffFXL/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-u-Jy-OB0-BVa73-1.jpg

more bench

https://i.ibb.co/1nhhC4F/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-QQv-Inhd-Ng-VSz.jpg

post
10-22-2023, 06:45 AM
strong bench for any team

laimbeer
draymond
kawhi
ginobili
caruso

https://i.ibb.co/Qkn2jmg/imageedit-3-8703786138-1-1.jpg

ILLsmak
10-22-2023, 07:41 PM
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2310192032140367.jpeg

I feel like the colors in the pics and who u see first might affect choices. It might be diff with just names, but im taking team 2 easy. Boards and paint are well controlled. What id do is have whoever of ivo stock bron was out push it for break opportunity, look for quick post if that didnt work, then run iso/ pnr for ivo late clock. They would be best on d and boards. Ivo might be small but the team is built where he could gamble well. Screw threes, gimme the knock ur teeth out team plus timmy.

-Smak

ILLsmak
10-22-2023, 07:48 PM
Team 2 is the worst because give Lebron the ball and AI and Stockton are somewhat useless. And if you play off of Shaq, the other guys aren't great enough shooters to make you pay for collapsing.

Team 4 and Team 1 fit really well together. Everyone except Wade is a good shooter that can play off-ball. Ditto for Paul who will set up the other guys who play off-ball. Team 3 is good but Giannis is pretty useless off ball on offense and he won't see it much with Magic and MJ dominating. I also feel like Jokic and Dirk can be taken advantage of a bit on defense by the big men on other teams. But still with Magic and MJ this team probably gets great shots and Giannis can just focus on defense. It's really any team except Team 2 which has the talent but is very poorly constructed.

You realize theyd be getting every d reb and out running everyone, all can pass and push, the only possible slow is td. Dont look at jerseys, its just dudes. Its at their best. Its true they wouldn’t have the best set offense but theyd crash orebs hard too. The only weakness is whoever ai is vs gets shot over, but lay ups, reb, defense, passing. It would be a fast break clinic tho. Esp with the other teams jacking threes. Ai bron and stock are good midrange ball getters, too. I wish there was a sim to play these out.

-Smak

post
10-23-2023, 05:11 AM
lauren jackson
a'ja wilson
elena delle donne
sheryl swoopes
cynthia cooper

yolanda griffith
nneka ogwumike
tamika catchings
angel mccoughtry
teresa weatherspoon

a lot of offense and defense

post
10-24-2023, 06:10 AM
lauren jackson
a'ja wilson
elena delle donne
sheryl swoopes
cynthia cooper

yolanda griffith
nneka ogwumike
tamika catchings
angel mccoughtry
teresa weatherspoon

a lot of offense and defense

message for whoever was editing yolanda griffith's wikipedia page and messaging me on wikipedia

i added the 2 all defense teams she made

ILLsmak
10-24-2023, 04:26 PM
Who really thinks they can beat my team 2 in a 7 game series??

-Smak

post
10-25-2023, 05:48 AM
1. i didn't write the yolanda griffith wikipedia article

2. multiple times this was deleted by someone even though it has a source

"she is considered one of the greatest rebounders and defensive players in the history of Women's Basketball"

a coach, especially a hall of fame coach like the source, is a reliable source about basketball

i added on wikipedia a video which comes from the official nba youtube channel as a second source

Xiao Yao You
10-25-2023, 06:49 AM
Who really thinks they can beat my team 2 in a 7 game series??

-Smak

Make AI beat me from the perimeter and put him on an island defensively