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Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 05:00 PM
The vast majority of the league plays tonight, and I have absolutely nothing to do so I’ll be flipping between games. No need for me to make a bunch of game threads for a comment here and there so I’ll keep it in here when it doesn’t justify a full topic. My intention is to use this for the entire season but anyone the least bit familiar with my history knows I’ll forget by Friday but for now this will do.

Thinking I’ll look in on Ben Simmons, Zion, Poole, and Chet before Wemby plays the Mavs.

I should probably look in on Cade and Paolo as well. We all seemed to forget Cade was supposed to be on of the next big things. I’ll at least glance his way a few times.

I guess I should watch Brandon Miller too but I’d really rather not….

tontoz
10-25-2023, 05:15 PM
Typically what i do is record the replays if it is a good game with a team i'm interested in.

In the last couple of years i have been watching youtube highlights when i want to check in on a specific player and he has a good game.

FultzNationRISE
10-25-2023, 05:18 PM
The vast majority of the league plays tonight, and I have absolutely nothing to do so I’ll be flipping between games. No need for me to make a bunch of game threads for a comment here and there so I’ll keep it in here when it doesn’t justify a full topic. My intention is to use this for the entire season but anyone the least bit familiar with my history knows I’ll forget by Friday but for now this will do.

Thinking I’ll look in on Ben Simmons, Zion, Poole, and Chet before Wemby plays the Mavs.

I should probably look in on Cade and Paolo as well. We all seemed to forget Cade was supposed to be on of the next big things. I’ll at least glance his way a few times.

I guess I should watch Brandon Miller too but I’d really rather not….


Wut.

Y.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 05:46 PM
I’m curious about I see if he goes 01 Stackhouse for a “Meh…” 30ppg and I think it will be pretty clear off the bat what the plan is.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 07:34 PM
I continue to be disgusted at the waste of Danilo Gallinari’s career. I had no idea he was in Washington but he’s out here looking like their primary roll guy in this lineup and surprisingly effective at it. Pool found him for a layup in what I’m sure will be a rare pass. And as I type he set the pick up high and rolled to the foul line for a nice jumper.

This guy should be on the Bucks or Nuggets or something.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 07:35 PM
Unrelated….

Kuz is a disgrace.

highwhey
10-25-2023, 07:37 PM
Op was instructed by Jeff to consolidate his ramblings into one thread in order to conserve server space and bandwidth.

FultzNationRISE
10-25-2023, 07:47 PM
I continue to be disgusted at the waste of Danilo Gallinari’s career. I had no idea he was in Washington but he’s out here looking like their primary roll guy in this lineup and surprisingly effective at it. Pool found him for a layup in what I’m sure will be a rare pass. And as I type he set the pick up high and rolled to the foul line for a nice jumper.

This guy should be on the Bucks or Nuggets or something.

Well Boston did sign him last year but he tore his knee before the season started. Im sure teams are just waiting now to see if he's healthy. He'll likely end up somewhere relevant by the deadline.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 07:56 PM
Op was instructed by Jeff to consolidate his ramblings into one thread in order to conserve server space and bandwidth.


Im not positive I’ve heard from Jeff since the covid era.

Also….

The nets look like they have a play style and approach to be better than the sun of their parts even if they lose tonight by 35.

Proctor
10-25-2023, 07:59 PM
I continue to be disgusted at the waste of Danilo Gallinari’s career. I had no idea he was in Washington but he’s out here looking like their primary roll guy in this lineup and surprisingly effective at it. Pool found him for a layup in what I’m sure will be a rare pass. And as I type he set the pick up high and rolled to the foul line for a nice jumper.

This guy should be on the Bucks or Nuggets or something.
Yeah, no kidding.

I'm also out here disgusted with checking the box scores and seeing the "Emo Jimmy Butler" thumbnail on the 'top performers' section. Fvck. :lol

highwhey
10-25-2023, 08:00 PM
Im not positive I’ve heard from Jeff since the covid era.

A

interesting.


been saying gallinari should have been targeted by the suns for years now

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:02 PM
So Cade is playing the point but defending Bam. Remains to be seen if it because he’s good at it or if because he can’t cover speedy guards. When he wasn’t on Bam he found Love so…I don’t know.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:06 PM
Yeah, no kidding.

I'm also out here disgusted with checking the box scores and seeing the "Emo Jimmy Butler" thumbnail on the 'top performers' section. Fvck. :lol

Thats the entire reason he did it. Media day pictures are used for the season. He knows it will catch your eye.

And the minute I go back to this Wizards game Kuz instantly annoyed me again with whatever that pink dot is on his head.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:10 PM
Also…Ron Artest and Wes Unseld are rolling in their graves watching these defenses.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:12 PM
Tony Allen as the PA announcer for Memphis is unsettling. Looking at his shaggy unkempt appearance I still think he’d hold a star to 1-6 shooting in a quarter though. He’s definitely gained weight but grime makes up for speed.

Wally450
10-25-2023, 08:15 PM
You rolling with the free trial right now?

I got the 7 day free trial and I was just thinking while switching between games during Celtics commercial breaks if I should just cave and get League Pass.

Its only $100 for the season which isn't bad at all. I want to try and watch more ball this season.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:17 PM
Zion is gonna average 12-13 free throws a game if they keep getting him the ball. He’s unguardable attacking. He’s gonna have opposing fans madder than Giannis with the FT totals at times. His feet seem so heavy until the very second he gets the ball though. It’s weird. It’s like he loses 75 pounds on the catch.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:19 PM
You rolling with the free trial right now?

I got the 7 day free trial and I was just thinking while switching between games during Celtics commercial breaks if I should just cave and get League Pass.

Its only $100 for the season which isn't bad at all. I want to try and watch more ball this season.

It’s one of like five subscriptions tied to my Amazon prime, which goes to a credit card I only opened to increase my available credit and age of accounts for score purposes years ago. I genuinely don’t even know what it costs anymore. If I checked I’d probably cancel it.

ShawkFactory
10-25-2023, 08:22 PM
Got the Hawks on the TV. Good that Brandon Miller is also there. Switching back and forth on the computer between magic/rockets, Celtics/Knicks, and OKC.

OKC is fun to watch man

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:25 PM
I turned on the hawks and hornets for a second, intending to make one observation and conclude my Hornets coverage for the season but nobody did anything for a couple minutes and I couldn’t take it anymore.

Wally450
10-25-2023, 08:27 PM
It’s one of like five subscriptions tied to my Amazon prime, which goes to a credit card I only opened to increase my available credit and age of accounts for score purposes years ago. I genuinely don’t even know what it costs anymore. If I checked I’d probably cancel it.

Its $100 for the season.

I Usually just go to Reddit streams. I usually watch on my computer while I game.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:28 PM
And I intended to watch the start of the Bulls and thunder, but they sent Zach Lavine out there to address the crowd and I turn the game off immediately. Something about him as the designated representative of my hometown team has me like:

https://i.ibb.co/WgHHh81/IMG-6661.gif



Id make 6 easy payments of 49.99 to get rookie Kirk Hinrich back.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:29 PM
Lou Dort got the first flop technical of the season and sent Demar to the line.

FultzNationRISE
10-25-2023, 08:35 PM
I turned on the hawks and hornets for a second, intending to make one observation and conclude my Hornets coverage for the season but nobody did anything for a couple minutes and I couldn’t take it anymore.

Their starting lineup is such a frankenstein mashup of players. Mellow Balls, Gordon Hayseed, Terry Rozier, some guy named Mark Williams who has to be the most obscure starter in the league. And then PJ Washington.

On the bench ofc they have Brandon "Bring the gun, leave the canoli" Miller and some random player with an awesome name, JT Thor.

The Pistons and Wizards may suck, but theyre just bad NBA teams. The Hornets always feel like theyre a team from some other league that accidentally got mixed in to the NBA scheduling algorithm.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:43 PM
Larry lances kid out here, looking like a Lakers JaVale McGee. Real “unhoused”.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:45 PM
Their starting lineup is such a frankenstein mashup of players. Mellow Balls, Gordon Hayseed, Terry Rozier, some guy named Mark Williams who has to be the most obscure starter in the league. And then PJ Washington.

On the bench ofc they have Brandon "Bring the gun, leave the canoli" Miller and some random player with an awesome name, JT Thor.

The Pistons and Wizards may suck, but theyre just bad NBA teams. The Hornets always feel like theyre a team from some other league that accidentally got mixed in to the NBA scheduling algorithm.

and they’ve been that way forever. Even their few good teams didn’t feel like they should be good. They haven’t had a lineup you look at and worry about since maybe Baron Davis and Jamall Mashburn if they were ever healthy at the same time.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 08:52 PM
I know motion offenses and the freedom to freelance is big with today’s offenses, but entirely too many teams have plays that are one guy jab stepping six times then missing a three with nobody else even getting the ball. And these are role players. You should at least be a star if you’re going to do some shit like that. Those are the plays that make older fans feel these guys are just ****ing stupid. Run some offense of some kind. You can do that literally whenever you want.

Why not attempt to play as a team first?

Full Court
10-25-2023, 09:07 PM
Got the Hawks on the TV. Good that Brandon Miller is also there. Switching back and forth on the computer between magic/rockets, Celtics/Knicks, and OKC.

OKC is fun to watch man

They are fun to watch indeed. I'll bet they end up somewhere 4th -6th seed this year.

imdaman99
10-25-2023, 09:16 PM
Knicks are so frustrating to watch, but at least they fight. Up 2 in the 4th now. No Randle and no Brunson on the floor and a run ensues, they've been terrible tonight

Wally450
10-25-2023, 09:16 PM
They are fun to watch indeed. I'll bet they end up somewhere 4th -6th seed this year.

Can you name 4 people on that team?

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 09:17 PM
Andre Drummond of all people shook Chets’ soul free of his physical form on a drive. Just collapsed him.

Full Court
10-25-2023, 09:23 PM
Can you name 4 people on that team?

Yes, I can. Can you?

imdaman99
10-25-2023, 09:24 PM
Garbage ass refs, helping the Celtics what a surprise. Tatum just zaza'd Brunson and then Brunson gets a tech for 'flopping' :oldlol: can't make this shit up

Wally450
10-25-2023, 09:32 PM
Yes, I can. Can you?

The floor is yours homie.

Hint: LeBron James isn't one of them.

SouBeachTalents
10-25-2023, 09:41 PM
That's a HORRIBLE call against Porzingis.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2023, 09:56 PM
I think Cade has played 4 positions and guarded the entire Heat lineup.

tontoz
10-25-2023, 09:57 PM
Nice to see porzingus come up big in his Celtics debut.:applause:

tomtucker
10-26-2023, 11:58 AM
Im not positive I’ve heard from Jeff since the covid era.

Also….

The nets look like they have a play style and approach to be better than the sun of their parts even if they lose tonight by 35.

you mean the site owner jeff is dead from covid?
:(

tomtucker
10-26-2023, 11:59 AM
jeff, where the fukk is our avatars!??

Hey Yo
10-26-2023, 05:54 PM
Zion is gonna average 12-13 free throws a game if they keep getting him the ball. He’s unguardable attacking. He’s gonna have opposing fans madder than Giannis with the FT totals at times. His feet seem so heavy until the very second he gets the ball though. It’s weird. It’s like he loses 75 pounds on the catch.

I just finished the first quarter, watching on and off. From what I did see, Zion taking it to the hole multiple occasions only to be blocked by triple J.

elementally morale
10-26-2023, 08:07 PM
Unrelated….

Kuz is a disgrace.

Why? I didn't watch the game and he is a bit extravagant off the court but what makes him a disgrace in your eyes?

elementally morale
10-26-2023, 08:13 PM
You rolling with the free trial right now?

I got the 7 day free trial and I was just thinking while switching between games during Celtics commercial breaks if I should just cave and get League Pass.

Its only $100 for the season which isn't bad at all. I want to try and watch more ball this season.

Interesting pricing by the NBA. In my country it costs only USD 67 for the season. I'm guessing it's adjusted for average or median income. Still strange. With a VPN you have a way around US pricing.

RRR3
10-26-2023, 08:33 PM
The floor is yours homie.

Hint: LeBron James isn't one of them.
He ran away :roll:

ralph_i_el
10-27-2023, 08:39 AM
League pass is 1/2 the price of the Monumental streaming service I would need to watch local Wizards games without TV. I'm not paying $20 a month to watch Kuzma. League Pass is great, because I can just give up on the Wiz and become a Thunder fan.

tontoz
10-27-2023, 08:52 AM
League pass is 1/2 the price of the Monumental streaming service I would need to watch local Wizards games without TV. I'm not paying $20 a month to watch Kuzma. League Pass is great, because I can just give up on the Wiz and become a Thunder fan.


Yeah the last couple of years i have been watching other teams (especially GS and Denver :rockon:) and enjoyed the season a lot more.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 09:56 AM
Yeah the last couple of years i have been watching other teams (especially GS and Denver :rockon:) and enjoyed the season a lot more.

is it possible we are finally aging out of team specific fanhood? I ask because I was a bulls fan slightly before Jordan even got drafted and I don’t give two shits about the current team. I think I’ve bailed around the time Noah left. Just not a group I know how to back.

I don’t even know what they’re trying to do. We should have been all in on a rebuild years ago.

tontoz
10-27-2023, 10:56 AM
is it possible we are finally aging out of team specific fanhood? I ask because I was a bulls fan slightly before Jordan even got drafted and I don’t give two shits about the current team. I think I’ve bailed around the time Noah left. Just not a group I know how to back.

I don’t even know what they’re trying to do. We should have been all in on a rebuild years ago.

League Pass wasn't a thing 25+ years ago. We didn't have the option to follow teams regularly that weren't our local team.

All we could watch were the local team games and the national TV games.

elementally morale
10-27-2023, 10:58 AM
Yeah the last couple of years i have been watching other teams (especially GS and Denver :rockon:) and enjoyed the season a lot more.

Same here. Laker fan for decades until 2014 or so.

ralph_i_el
10-27-2023, 11:14 AM
Yeah the last couple of years i have been watching other teams (especially GS and Denver :rockon:) and enjoyed the season a lot more.

Yeah, I watched more Denver games last year than anything. Watched most of them the next night too, to avoid commercials.

FultzNationRISE
10-27-2023, 11:36 AM
is it possible we are finally aging out of team specific fanhood? I ask because I was a bulls fan slightly before Jordan even got drafted and I don’t give two shits about the current team. I think I’ve bailed around the time Noah left. Just not a group I know how to back.

I don’t even know what they’re trying to do. We should have been all in on a rebuild years ago.


Yeah man, I try to stay loyal to my childhood teams but it’s tough. Growing up back in the day I basically had three favorite teams. The Cavs, Heat, and Lakers. This was in like, I dunno, the mid 90s of whatever. But Ive just tried to stay loyal to those teams and stuck with them throughout the 00s and 10s and 20s just because it felt like the right thing to do. I felt a sense of loyalty and duty to dance with the one who brought me. But thats just how it goes. Commitment can be tough, it can also be very rewarding.

Luckily it turned out Lebron happened to play for all my fav teams in his career which was crazy lucky and special. Really feel blessed to have had that good fortune.

RRR3
10-27-2023, 11:42 AM
Same here. Laker fan for decades until 2014 or so.
Lakers fan until they stopped being good :ohwell:

Im Still Ballin
10-27-2023, 12:14 PM
League Pass wasn't a thing 25+ years ago. We didn't have the option to follow teams regularly that weren't our local team.

All we could watch were the local team games and the national TV games.

League Pass actually started in 1995 with DirecTV:


https://vault.si.com/vault/1995/12/11/tell-laura-i-love-her-thats-what-the-author-said-as-he-checked-out-on-his-wife-for-a-five-day-binge-of-sports-viewing-on-directv

I am not alone. DirecTV has sold more than 1.1 million dishes since they became available nationwide 13 months ago. It works like this: First you drop at least $750 to buy your dish and decoder box and have them professionally installed. Then you decide what programming package you want and, most important, what games you can't live without. The NBA League Pass, which gives you access to up to 800 regular-season games, costs $149.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77jf_BiZQ3Q

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7ukAAOSwb1piAw-V/s-l1600.jpg

ILLsmak
10-27-2023, 01:00 PM
is it possible we are finally aging out of team specific fanhood? I ask because I was a bulls fan slightly before Jordan even got drafted and I don’t give two shits about the current team. I think I’ve bailed around the time Noah left. Just not a group I know how to back.

I don’t even know what they’re trying to do. We should have been all in on a rebuild years ago.

Team fan is weird unless you live there. I watched bulls 82 games cuz tv but i was a fan of players. Stanning was mostly a thing ppl did to mj back then. I just liked seeing dudes get it and watching them roast the bulls was always a good time. Then see mj go back at em. I think mj started the stan thing to a large extent and the rest were team fans who maybe liked another player or two.

Ive never been a team guy cept college cuz i wuz there. Not my alma but being in the town and knowing the dudes, seeing them around, bein their age even was cool. But pro lol seems like a scam tbh esp in the hyper player movement era.

Edit: havent had lp since shaq was in phx. I dont think many people got to see how hard he went in phx given his limitations. Dude was trying prol harder than he had since 3 peat. He gave everything.

-Smak

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 02:59 PM
The Knicks didn’t view Donovan Mitchell as good enough to carry a team by himself. About a year after the Knicks were outbid in their pursuit for Mitchell, Scott Perry, the team’s former GM, cited Mitchell’s lack of playoff success to explain why New York stopped short of Utah’s demands (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/).

– via New York Post (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/)





“Obviously we made a push to trade for him,” Perry said on a recent episode of “The Hoop Genius“ podcast. “But it was going to be done within reason. He was a good player but he needed more around him to win. (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/) Because if he was that singular force, Utah probably would’ve been in the conference finals if he were that singular force. But he wasn’t that singular force. That’s not a criticism against him. That’s just an evaluation that you must make.”
– via New York Post (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/)






“(Mitchell’s) an excellent basketball player. Multi-year All-Star. Tremendous young man. New York kid,” Perry said. “But you got to ask yourself, if the other team you’re tracking with is wanting to take two-thirds or three-quarters of all your young talent, and all of your draft capital, is what’s left behind going to good enough for you to win (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/) rather than hold on to what you have and be a little patient?”
– via New York Post (https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/sports/knicks-didnt-see-donovan-mitchell-as-a-franchise-carrying-player/)




He gets it

Proctor
10-27-2023, 08:31 PM
Wemby vs Boban! :roll:

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 08:33 PM
Wemby just had FVV in the post and Boban slid over to take him. I don’t think Wemby wanted any of that matchup in that position. Maybe out at the 3 point line. I forgot Boban was still around.

Proctor
10-27-2023, 08:37 PM
Wemby just had FVV in the post and Boban slid over to take him. I don’t think Wemby wanted any of that matchup in that position. Maybe out at the 3 point line. I forgot Boban was still around.
Boban could drop 25/10 in 20 minutes if he wanted to.

Proctor
10-27-2023, 08:44 PM
Since when the **** is Reggie Bullock known as Reggie Bullock Jr?

:lol

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 08:48 PM
It’s less “If he wanted” and more “If a coach wanted” and if they ignored that the other team would make them pay on defense as they really wanted to use Boban as a weapon.

He can’t be guarded if a team slows down to play through him but he can’t play much if the other team wants to exploit him either.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 08:52 PM
Nets seem to be trying to play through Ben Simmons on one end while he’s guarding Luka on the other. He looks like himself movement wise but not trying to score…again as usual. He’s moving well though.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 08:58 PM
Jeff Green either needs to be out of the league or playing 12 minutes a game on a contender. He has no business on the Rockets right now. Out here looking like somebody’s bald great uncle at the “grown and sexy” 35+ party.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 09:07 PM
Wemby just does not seem to have the rebounding instinct, but he gets a few just being able to reach higher than other people. If he has to fight for position for it, it almost looks like he doesn’t feel like it’s worth the effort.

Guess we’ll see how much pot values it because he can beat it out of you and less he’s gone soft in his old age. It’s nice to see he’s such a willing and capable passer though. It’s hard to teach passing. You can’t just try harder to be good at it.

Pop can make him fight for rebounds but he might not want him being that physical.

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 09:10 PM
He'll be playing with one of the great rebounders for Team France. Should be able to pick up some things

Wally450
10-27-2023, 09:52 PM
I really hate the Spurs for trading White.

Probably the next best move Danny Ainge made after dumping Pierce/KG to the Nets for picks.

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 10:02 PM
Probably the next best move Danny Ainge made after dumping Pierce/KG to the Nets for picks.

Mitchell for Lauri, Agbaji, Sexton and 3 unprotected 1sts

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 10:42 PM
That Wemby putback should have counted.

eliteballer
10-27-2023, 10:44 PM
Wemby just does not seem to have the rebounding instinct, but he gets a few just being able to reach higher than other people. If he has to fight for position for it, it almost looks like he doesn’t feel like it’s worth the effort.

Guess we’ll see how much pot values it because he can beat it out of you and less he’s gone soft in his old age. It’s nice to see he’s such a willing and capable passer though. It’s hard to teach passing. You can’t just try harder to be good at it.

Pop can make him fight for rebounds but he might not want him being that physical.

It's not easy for these super tall dudes to bang the glass.

Rebounding is about timing, mobility, positioning, quickness off the floor. Low center of gravity to get leverage.

eliteballer
10-27-2023, 10:45 PM
It's not easy for these super tall dudes to bang the glass.

Rebounding is about timing, mobility, positioning, quickness off the floor. Low center of gravity to get leverage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgJGAGo2rJU

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 10:45 PM
This Collins kid looks nice too.

And Sengun had a nasty drive and dunk they didn’t even replay. Sucks not being the hyped guy.

Carbine
10-27-2023, 10:45 PM
Wemby has been getting some nice "contested" rebounds that basically differentiate elite rebounders from the good ones. I know what you saw in the first Q Mr Blaze as I thought the same to myself he looked awkward going for boards but ever since he has been getting those playground boards

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 10:45 PM
It's not easy for these super tall dudes to bang the glass.

Rebounding is about timing, mobility, positioning, quickness off the floor. Low center of gravity to get leverage.

Sampson rebounded

eliteballer
10-27-2023, 10:47 PM
Sampson rebounded

He wasn't really 7-4. He was probably a good 2 inches shorter than Wemby.

Carbine
10-27-2023, 10:48 PM
He wasn't really 7-4. He was probably a good 2 inches shorter than Wemby.

The point remains Sampson didn't have leverage whatsoever and was lean as a stick, yet still rebounded well.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 10:50 PM
Luka is making some of the most bullshit shots in history right now.

Kblaze8855
10-27-2023, 10:51 PM
He banked in like a hook shot floater three for I think 49 points being trapped the whole play to get the ball out of his hands.

eliteballer
10-27-2023, 10:51 PM
The point remains Sampson didn't have leverage whatsoever and was lean as a stick, yet still rebounded well.

He was like Schwarzenegger compared to this young version of Wemby.

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 10:53 PM
He wasn't really 7-4. He was probably a good 2 inches shorter than Wemby.

he's the closest thing to Wemby I've seen

Carbine
10-27-2023, 10:53 PM
I wonder if down the line in a year or two if Pop will put Wemby on Doncic when they play. Doncic is a master of getting his shot off due to a mastery of the fundamentals of the offensive game, but those type of players have a harder time with significant length that they have to shoot over (if that defender can stay in front) which I think he had a good chance of doing.

Luka will get whatever he wants against anyone his own size. It's just if he makes it or not.

FultzNationRISE
10-27-2023, 10:55 PM
I grabbed the free trial, everyone remind me to cancel 6 days from now.

Xiao Yao You
10-27-2023, 10:55 PM
He was like Schwarzenegger compared to this young version of Wemby.

He played 4 years of college. He was strong. I remember them showing him curling 90 lb weights with one arm. Put on too much weight. Ruined his knees

FultzNationRISE
10-27-2023, 10:58 PM
I wonder if down the line in a year or two if Pop will put Wemby on Doncic when they play. Doncic is a master of getting his shot off due to a mastery of the fundamentals of the offensive game, but those type of players have a harder time with significant length that they have to shoot over (if that defender can stay in front) which I think he had a good chance of doing.

Luka will get whatever he wants against anyone his own size. It's just if he makes it or not.

It wouldnt matter, teams switch everything now.

Im Still Ballin
10-27-2023, 11:01 PM
Wemby's anthropometric measurements and overall radius are just so much more than Kareem and Sampson's. We're talking 7-9 more inches of standing reach and wingspan.

NBAGOAT
10-28-2023, 04:11 AM
celtics are my favorites. Built as well as you could around tatum/brown under this salary cap. their top 6 is just ridiculous this year and I like them more than some weaker superteams in history even. No KD warriors or anything but talent and fit seems almost perfect

warriorfan
10-28-2023, 06:24 AM
Wemby's anthropometric measurements and overall radius are just so much more than Kareem and Sampson's. We're talking 7-9 more inches of standing reach and wingspan.

insane

Kblaze8855
10-29-2023, 10:58 AM
Fair warning…If the next game I watch Cade doesn’t regress I’m gonna start talking about him a lot.

Im Still Ballin
10-29-2023, 11:43 AM
Fair warning…If the next game I watch Cade doesn’t regress I’m gonna start talking about him a lot.

Detroit is going to be relevant a hell of a lot sooner than people think if he and Duren keep playing as they have.

elementally morale
10-29-2023, 09:06 PM
Nice to see Embiid play the way he does tonight. That last assist to Maxey for the three was a very nice no look.

fourkicks44
10-29-2023, 09:13 PM
Nice to see Embiid play the way he does tonight. That last assist to Maxey for the three was a very nice no look.

I like what Nurse is doing with this team on offense.

It reminds me of the Brett Brown era with Joel running DHOs with JJ Redick. Except now it is with Maxey who is way more Dynamic. He as always said he preferred DHO to pick and rolls.

The scoring load being taken by Maxey seems to give Joel a renewed enthusiasm for rebounding and D like he did when he was younger.

I only just realizes how anxious I was watching Doc Rivers Coach, especially 2 unit minutes.

elementally morale
10-29-2023, 09:27 PM
I like what Nurse is doing with this team on offense.

It reminds me of the Brett Brown era with Joel running DHOs with JJ Redick. Except now it is with Maxey who is way more Dynamic. He as always said he preferred DHO to pick and rolls.

The scoring load being taken by Maxey seems to give Joel a renewed enthusiasm for rebounding and D like he did when he was younger.

I only just realizes how anxious I was watching Doc Rivers Coach, especially 2 unit minutes.


Nurse may have a lot to do with it but so is no James Harden, I think. The whole team plays with more energy if someone is not stopping the ball. Dallas should watch.

Kblaze8855
10-30-2023, 06:55 PM
Heat and bucks are the marketing matchup but I think I’m gonna watch Warriors pelicans.

FultzNationRISE
10-30-2023, 07:00 PM
Heat and bucks are the marketing matchup but I think I’m gonna watch Warriors pelicans.

Jimmy Butler's not out with 'rest'?

He missed game 3 of the season for rest.

Hopefully he's managed to catch his wind.

Xiao Yao You
10-30-2023, 07:01 PM
Jimmy Butler's not out with 'rest'?

He missed game 3 of the season for rest.

Hopefully he's managed to catch his wind.

nothing seems to have changed as far as load management. Big surprise! :roll:

Kblaze8855
10-30-2023, 07:12 PM
Philly was gonna rest Embiid game 3 as well but I think they got shamed into playing him.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 08:05 PM
The Wizards just hit the Celtics with a 10-0 run.

Proctor
10-30-2023, 08:18 PM
- DINGO ALERT -

Curry is incredible

SATAN
10-30-2023, 08:20 PM
I don't think Zion likes Draymond

Xiao Yao You
10-30-2023, 08:24 PM
I don't think Zion likes Draymond

he's pretty hard to like

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 08:31 PM
Celtics with 8 turnovers leading to 12 Wizard fast break points. Airball shoot clock violation for Jaylen Brown with his 300 million dollar contract.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 08:38 PM
Gouaballay (I'm sure I screwed up the spelling) just dunked on the entire Celtic team. Then Kuzma hit a Smith turnaround jumper.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 08:38 PM
And another jumper from Kuzma.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 08:45 PM
Only one Celtic reserve has scored.

tontoz
10-30-2023, 08:51 PM
Are you really complaining with the C's up 30?

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2023, 09:04 PM
Are you really complaining with the C's up 30?

Actually I was seeing if I could get anyone to turn to the game. Also an experiment in trolling.

tontoz
10-30-2023, 09:11 PM
Actually I was seeing if I could get anyone to turn to the game. Also an experiment in trolling.


Good luck with that. I sure as hell wouldn't watch this:oldlol:

Im Still Ballin
10-30-2023, 09:41 PM
Chet Holmgren is ridiculous.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2023, 06:06 PM
So Pelicans/Thunder then Warriors Kings right?

Right.

tontoz
11-01-2023, 06:27 PM
So Pelicans/Thunder then Warriors Kings right?

Right.

I am watching warriors/ kings game from Friday. Curry is killing it to start the season.

Real Men Wear Green
11-01-2023, 09:19 PM
Pacers got 50 in the paint vs Boston in only the third quarter.. Just 6 turnovers.

Real Men Wear Green
11-01-2023, 09:27 PM
Pacers got 50 in the paint vs Boston in only the third quarter.. Just 6 turnovers.

All five Celtic starters benched in the 4th quarter.

Shaquille O'Neal
11-02-2023, 07:00 AM
Its $100 for the season.

I Usually just go to Reddit streams. I usually watch on my computer while I game.

On YoutubeTV I had either the $100 for the season option *or* $14.99 per month.
I chose $14.99 per month, which begins Nov 8th (7 day free trial). That will cover me for Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March, April. 6x14.99 = $89.94. April 8-13th around that time playoffs start and/or teams pretty much have their seeding set.

Kblaze8855
11-02-2023, 07:27 AM
Anyone else see Poole and Kuzma doing off the backboard lobs down 20?

Real Men Wear Green
11-02-2023, 08:22 AM
Anyone else see Poole and Kuzma doing off the backboard lobs down 20?

Back in the day it was unacceptable but showboating had become ok these days. Even if you are on a crap team and getting thrashed.

NBAGOAT
11-02-2023, 08:38 AM
Warriors bench unit has transformed. I kind of underrated the cp3 trade which is saying something since I’m one of his biggest Stans here. Still don’t think they have enough star power around curry with dray and klay declining to be considered one of the best teams but their starting lineup will always play like a top 5 lineup and a great bench now makes them contenders.

tontoz
11-02-2023, 09:21 PM
How about the Pels with 72 pts at the half without Ingram and Zion?

highwhey
11-02-2023, 09:43 PM
remind me to cancel in 5 days when my trial is over

Real Men Wear Green
11-04-2023, 08:29 PM
Conspiracy theory: Ben Simmons does not exist.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 10:39 PM
Petty good selection right now. Clippers and Knicks…Nuggets pelicans. Lakers Heat. Bucks nets. And I’m watching nothing. I’ll check an ending or two after this Bass reeves show.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:24 PM
Ok let me watch the end of this Celtics Timberwolves then move to Nuggets/pelicans.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:31 PM
I was wondering why Gobert wasn’t in then he checked in and immediately got the Hack a Shaq and missed both. He’s 2-11 for the game they say. Boston goes down and hits a 3.

This been going on all game?

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:35 PM
I don’t know what the **** Jaylen Brown did with that last 12 seconds.

I assume this has to be a lob to someone for the game on the other end.

Rudy maybe. Have to be a Jason Kidd ass pass though.

FultzNationRISE
11-06-2023, 11:42 PM
I don’t know what the **** Jaylen Brown did with that last 12 seconds.

I assume this has to be a lob to someone for the game on the other end.

Rudy maybe. Have to be a Jason Kidd ass pass though.


Game stayed tied at 101 for the last two minutes as Tatum, Edwards, Brown took turns throwing up hero shot bricks like a game of duck duck goose.

Real Men Wear Green
11-06-2023, 11:43 PM
I was wondering why Gobert wasn’t in then he checked in and immediately got the Hack a Shaq and missed both. He’s 2-11 for the game they say. Boston goes down and hits a 3.

This been going on all game?

He only got intentionally fouled the one time. Celtics biggest weakness is the lack of depth up front so even though Gobert can't hit today they can't afford to take advantage.

elementally morale
11-06-2023, 11:44 PM
Jokic 108th triple double. End of the 3rd quarter, 29/13/10

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:47 PM
Ant is aggressive as ****. I swear he looked like he wanted to fight Tatum for a jump ball.

Just hit again as I typed. Kinda running wild.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:48 PM
Rookie Kobe style air ball to keep him humble right after.

Real Men Wear Green
11-06-2023, 11:49 PM
Ant is aggressive as ****. I swear he looked like he wanted to fight Tatum for a jump ball.

Just hit again as I typed. Kinda running wild.

He took overtime over. Wish the Celtics had taken a time out earlier. Oh well.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:52 PM
Yea we are done here. I’ll watch the nuggets pelicans 4th. See if Zion goes at Jokic at some point.

Kblaze8855
11-06-2023, 11:59 PM
The Nuggets have so many players I feel like I’ve never heard of. I don’t know who this kid lighting it up is. Is he the one who had Mike Malone talking shit about how they didn’t need brown?

Xiao Yao You
11-07-2023, 12:09 AM
The Nuggets have so many players I feel like I’ve never heard of. I don’t know who this kid lighting it up is. Is he the one who had Mike Malone talking shit about how they didn’t need brown?

got a bunch of young guys. I'd guess they'll look to package a few of them for some veteran help at the deadline

imdaman99
11-07-2023, 12:09 AM
Just got back from the Knicks-Clips game :banana:
Knicks absolutely attacked Harden all game, especially the 4th quarter :banana:
Randle didn't suck and they made their run with RJ leading the team :banana: Brunson was on the bench as well

Xiao Yao You
11-07-2023, 12:09 AM
Just got back from the Knicks-Clips game :banana:
Knicks absolutely attacked Harden all game, especially the 4th quarter :banana:
Randle didn't suck and they made their run with RJ leading the team :banana: Brunson was on the bench as well

Harden booed in the Garden! :cheers:

RRR3
11-07-2023, 12:10 AM
Just got back from the Knicks-Clips game :banana:
Knicks absolutely attacked Harden all game, especially the 4th quarter :banana:
Randle didn't suck and they made their run with RJ leading the team :banana: Brunson was on the bench as well
I was starting to feel bad for Randle glad he was ok finally

Xiao Yao You
11-07-2023, 12:11 AM
can't quit me!

imdaman99
11-07-2023, 12:12 AM
Harden booed in the Garden! :cheers:

Yeah I was surprised, might have to do with his time at BK and his scary hours comment talking about taking over NY. Or the fact we don't like someone that requests trade everywhere he goes. Westbrook got the loudest cheers for the Clips and it wasn't even me :lol

imdaman99
11-07-2023, 12:14 AM
I was starting to feel bad for Randle glad he was ok finally

Yeah I felt bad too but mostly because of his body language. Dude looked pissed and checked out, down 1 with 30 seconds to go just because Brunson didn't give him the ball. He's a Knick so I'm gonna root for him to do well. He is important to the team but I'd be relieved if they can trade him and get something, he's a frustrating dude and I've been rooting for frustrating players all my life.

FultzNationRISE
11-07-2023, 12:25 AM
Yea we are done here. I’ll watch the nuggets pelicans 4th. See if Zion goes at Jokic at some point.

Well he did, and Jokic did his usual matador thing where he gives up layups to avoid foul trouble and just says “you can have free layups all night and we’re STILL gonna outscore you on the other end.”

Which of course he backed up with his 35 points 12 assists.

tontoz
11-07-2023, 09:38 AM
Zion took 22 shots to score 20 pts so Denver must have done something right on D.

tontoz
11-07-2023, 09:40 AM
The Nuggets have so many players I feel like I’ve never heard of. I don’t know who this kid lighting it up is. Is he the one who had Mike Malone talking shit about how they didn’t need brown?

No actually that was Watson :oldlol: This Julian guy has hardly played so far this season until tonight.

Kblaze8855
11-08-2023, 08:14 PM
Wemby vs the Knicks took the prime time espn spot from 76ers/Celtics I see. Doesn’t feel like a “League pass mutterings” minor game but here we are.

Real Men Wear Green
11-08-2023, 08:21 PM
Just for taking the assignment of guarding Embiid in ready to give Jrue Holiday DPoY right now.

tontoz
11-08-2023, 08:39 PM
Victor was pretty cold blooded the other night against the Suns. He kept hitting shots late in the fourth with a look on his face like no biggie this is what I do.

Proctor
11-08-2023, 08:44 PM
90 year old Hubie calling the Spurs/Wemby.

:bowdown:

Xiao Yao You
11-08-2023, 08:56 PM
Jeff McDonald: Huge ovation for Victor Wembanyama during pregame introductions at MSG (https://*********.com/social/).
– via Twitter JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)


Ohm Youngmisuk. James Harden is welcomed with boos when his name was announced in the starting lineup here in Brooklyn. (https://*********.com/social/) He’s getting booed when he touches the ball too.
– via Twitter NotoriousOHM (https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM)

FultzNationRISE
11-08-2023, 09:03 PM
Nick Nurse needs to spend a little time outside next time theyre on the road against some warm weather teams.

Dude is so bright white his glasses and goatee look like theyre just hovering in the air.

elementally morale
11-09-2023, 12:12 AM
I can't remember the last time I saw Jokic shooting this bad AND having only 1 assist in a half. 15/8/1 but on 6/15 shooting. Pretty ugly game all over so far.

EDIT: nba.com now says it's actually zero assists. Why the pass to Gordons layup was taken away I don't know. Anyway... quite a shitshow.

elementally morale
11-09-2023, 10:03 PM
Giannis is on his way to have 60 points. 46 after 3. He is shooting 80%. Rest of the team 40%. Can Giannis single handidly win the game?

Kblaze8855
11-09-2023, 10:14 PM
The pacers floor alone is making me want to turn off the game.

Kblaze8855
11-09-2023, 10:25 PM
Doubling the **** outta Giannis who I think has 55. Middleton should feast. I assume Dame didn’t play.

Kblaze8855
11-09-2023, 10:28 PM
This is exactly why Dame is supposed to be there. Giannis running wild being doubled on every touch but nobody else to step up. Middleton took like 3 of the last 4 but only made 1. Haliburton probably gonna win this

elementally morale
11-09-2023, 10:28 PM
Giannis is on his way to have 60 points. 46 after 3. He is shooting 80%. Rest of the team 40%. Can Giannis single handidly win the game?

Looks like he is going for the triple double but with TOs. Has 8 now.

tontoz
11-09-2023, 10:37 PM
A lot of wizards fans wanted them to draft haliburton. Yet another mgt screw up.

RRR3
11-09-2023, 10:39 PM
Haliburton is getting fairly close to the best PG in the league and probably will be in a few years.

highwhey
11-10-2023, 02:08 AM
This is exactly why Dame is supposed to be there. Giannis running wild being doubled on every touch but nobody else to step up. Middleton took like 3 of the last 4 but only made 1. Haliburton probably gonna win this

my dumbass put 1,000 on the game since i thought the odds were too good to be true only to tune into the game and realize dame was out :facepalm

SATAN
11-10-2023, 02:19 AM
That Magic and Hawks game was surprisingly awesome. Nice to have back to back games coming down to the wire.

elementally morale
11-10-2023, 10:47 PM
If Luka and Irving find chemistry, this Mavs team is dangerous. Borderline contender. In the playoffs it's going to be tough, but stopping two players at the same time is also tough.

elementally morale
11-12-2023, 08:35 PM
Jokic doing Jokic things. 1st quarter: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a block.

FultzNationRISE
11-12-2023, 08:41 PM
Jokic doing Jokic things. 1st quarter: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a block.

I guess we wont be getting a game thread from bdonovan tonight.

elementally morale
11-12-2023, 10:24 PM
I guess we wont be getting a game thread from bdonovan tonight.

36/21/11
+12

The Nuggets lost by 3 though. So there is a chance of a thread.

FultzNationRISE
11-12-2023, 10:29 PM
36/21/11
+12

The Nuggets lost by 3 though. So there is a chance of a thread.


I had the exact same thought :roll:

elementally morale
11-12-2023, 10:34 PM
I had the exact same thought :roll:

29.8 / 13.7 / 8.3 this season so far after this game. Not bad but his shooting from 3 is a bit off.

Hey Yo
11-13-2023, 12:15 AM
AD with only 8fga at the half

SATAN
11-13-2023, 12:22 AM
Cam Reddish can only carry AD so far

Hey Yo
11-13-2023, 01:26 AM
AD comes up big in the 2nd half FTW.

Kblaze8855
11-15-2023, 06:04 PM
I watch Boston and Philly but after that it’s suns and Timberwolves right? All agreed? Good. Meet you back here then. I believe all six stars are supposed to play.

eliteballer
11-15-2023, 06:18 PM
What's your take on Anthony Edwards?

Kblaze8855
11-15-2023, 07:23 PM
Barring injury or something weird he looks like a potential Jimmy Butler/Wade hybrid with 3 more feet of range. Which is saying a lot.

FultzNationRISE
11-15-2023, 08:32 PM
Barring injury or something weird he looks like a potential Jimmy Butler/Wade hybrid with 3 more feet of range. Which is saying a lot.

Well. As a scorer for sure. He's got it all. He's not the playmaker Wade or JimBux is. Wade was a really underrated passer IMO.

Edwards I think still plays with a lot of tunnel vision, at least in the limited amount Ive seen of him. Like a more explosive Donovan Mitchell. I havent really seen him use his game to make the entire offense better.

Maybe he's improving there, I dont know. But it feels like a work in progress.

ShawkFactory
11-15-2023, 08:39 PM
Well. As a scorer for sure. He's got it all. He's not the playmaker Wade or JimBux is. Wade was a really underrated passer IMO.

Edwards I think still plays with a lot of tunnel vision, at least in the limited amount Ive seen of him. Like a more explosive Donovan Mitchell. I havent really seen him use his game to make the entire offense better.

Maybe he's improving there, I dont know. But it feels like a work in progress.

The offensive comp is fair. I think he's far more effective defensively than Mitchell though.

Athletically he's pretty close to Wade. Only 6'4 but plays much bigger because he's thick and has a long wingspan. Wade was probably a little more nimble side-to-side but Edwards seems to have a little more bounce.

tontoz
11-15-2023, 08:50 PM
Well. As a scorer for sure. He's got it all. He's not the playmaker Wade or JimBux is. Wade was a really underrated passer IMO.

Edwards I think still plays with a lot of tunnel vision, at least in the limited amount Ive seen of him. Like a more explosive Donovan Mitchell. I havent really seen him use his game to make the entire offense better.

Maybe he's improving there, I dont know. But it feels like a work in progress.


He is averaging over 5 assists per game so far. He has definitely improved in that area.

elementally morale
11-15-2023, 08:52 PM
When he doesn't have the ball, Embiid is just standing at the three point line like a traffic cone. Movement without the ball should happen and would probably work.

Kblaze8855
11-15-2023, 08:54 PM
It’s fair to say he’s behind both those guys as a playmaker. Jimmy is better team wise than his assist numbers suggest as well. But he’s a more natural shooter than either. He could really be that good in time.

Xiao Yao You
11-15-2023, 08:55 PM
The offensive comp is fair. I think he's far more effective defensively than Mitchell though.

Athletically he's pretty close to Wade. Only 6'4 but plays much bigger because he's thick and has a long wingspan. Wade was probably a little more nimble side-to-side but Edwards seems to have a little more bounce.

Mitchell doesn't play any D so that's not saying much

FultzNationRISE
11-15-2023, 09:41 PM
He is averaging over 5 assists per game so far. He has definitely improved in that area.

IMO that’s not that much for a guy who plays 36 minutes in a supercharged era. Malik Monk averages the same assist numbers in 24 minutes.

Tbh Im always surprised ‘superstar’ players who handle the ball so much dont get called out for low assist numbers more.

Lebron, Joker, CP3 were all great scorers who could go for 30 any night they wanted in their prime. And they still averaged 8, 9, 10 assists a season. Luka’s averaging 8 this year. Halliburton is doing 11, which is Magic’s career average. Bird and Wade averaged 7 in their primes.

Edit: Im gonna cut Edwards a little slack because he doesnt play with a lot of great offensive weapons. But I still think part of the onus is on him to set guys up to be effective scorers.

ShawkFactory
11-15-2023, 09:58 PM
Haven't really watched many full games other than the occasional Hawks one but this is 6ers/Celtics is like...real basketball. They seem to give a shit. Fighting through screens, hard fouls. Great game.

Kblaze8855
11-15-2023, 10:15 PM
Bradley Beal sat out tonight too so their big 3 still hasn’t played. I’ll just watch a quarter and bail. KAT looks like he wants 40 for his birthday.

Wally450
11-15-2023, 10:39 PM
Derrick White is a baller. Always steps up when needed.

Proctor
11-18-2023, 10:32 PM
200 mil man Gobert misses two potential game winning freethrows. Dumbass was flexing after he got fouled too. He will never be dependable when the game matters. Would have been another scheduled loss had Towns not saved the night!

Xiao Yao You
11-18-2023, 10:34 PM
200 mil man Gobert misses two potential game winning freethrows. Dumbass was flexing after he got fouled too. He will never be dependable when the game matters. Would have been another scheduled loss had Towns not saved the night!

:facepalm

Kblaze8855
11-19-2023, 06:22 PM
https://i.ibb.co/JCDtLqP/IMG-6940.gif

Real Men Wear Green
11-19-2023, 09:28 PM
Celtics in pace to lose by 16 to the worst team in the NBA

Gotterdammerung
11-20-2023, 12:58 PM
Celtics in pace to lose by 16 to the worst team in the NBA

It's beginning to look like the 2023-24 Celtics are the first team to go full five-out in league history with their starters in or near their prime. 4 of them already made the All-Star team.

Unprecedented.*

Even the Death Star lineup of GSW had Green or Iguodala shrinking the floor.

Harden's best years on the Rockets were limited by Capela or Nene at the 5, or Westbrook in the backcourt.

Even the Nuggets have Gordon, who defenses sagged off in the corner.

* Should be a thread in its own right

Wally450
11-20-2023, 08:16 PM
How does Miles Bridges have a job?

elementally morale
11-20-2023, 09:09 PM
Throwing out Jokic on the 1st half after throwing out Mike Malone is rather strange. Both with 2 technicals. In yesterday's game Jokic was in foul trouble and today he is thrown out. I can't say he did anything he doesn't do every other night. The game just got to the whocares territory for me.

Real Men Wear Green
11-20-2023, 09:17 PM
It's beginning to look like the 2023-24 Celtics are the first team to go full five-out in league history with their starters in or near their prime. 4 of them already made the All-Star team.

Unprecedented.*

Even the Death Star lineup of GSW had Green or Iguodala shrinking the floor.

Harden's best years on the Rockets were limited by Capela or Nene at the 5, or Westbrook in the backcourt.

Even the Nuggets have Gordon, who defenses sagged off in the corner.

* Should be a thread in its own right
The Celtics probably needed a historic record to get holiday in a a fourth allstar this season and my Derrick White mvp campaign is being ignored by most media outlets.

Real Men Wear Green
11-20-2023, 09:20 PM
How does Miles Bridges have a job?

I think if he was a more famous player he would have a harder time coming back but because he's not well known and the team isn't a big deal it doesn't attract the protests.

But I definitely wouldn't want him in Green.

Xiao Yao You
11-21-2023, 10:21 PM
has Niang gotten fat or is it just me?

Proctor
11-21-2023, 10:23 PM
has Niang gotten fat or is it just me?
Always was. Won't be long before he looks like Sweetney

RRR3
11-21-2023, 10:24 PM
Always was. Won't be long before he looks like Sweetney
Can't quit donuts!

Xiao Yao You
11-21-2023, 10:30 PM
Always was. Won't be long before he looks like Sweetney

he wasn't fat on the Jazz. Definitely looks a lot bigger right now

L.Kizzle
11-21-2023, 10:36 PM
Why is there a Laker game on every other day on national TV? We gotta watch them play the Jazz tonight on TNT. Smh.

Xiao Yao You
11-21-2023, 10:37 PM
Why is there a Laker game on every other day on national TV? We gotta watch them play the Jazz tonight on TNT. Smh.

been like that forever rather they are good or bad

L.Kizzle
11-21-2023, 10:41 PM
been like that forever rather they are good or bad
Seems like more this season then even the last few years.

tontoz
11-21-2023, 10:54 PM
Hawks/Pacers have combined for 300 pts in regulation :lebronamazed:

L.Kizzle
11-21-2023, 11:12 PM
One of the worst plays to close a game I've ever seen. 16 seconds left to let your 7 footer shoot a 20 foot fade away.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 07:37 AM
Jaylens been mid this year and I’m not choosing him as all star right now. He’s a pure scorer but on this team he shouldn’t be averaging 25ppg a night. The efficiency will go up but he’s still been league average last few years and hasn’t shot over 36% from 3 either. Good defender but easily worst on the team. Tatum/porzingis are clearly the all star guys

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 07:59 AM
The only Celtic starter that isn't averaging led points than they did last year is Derrick White. Brown is well capable of averaging 25 but this isn't the team for individual statistics. The shooting numbers aren't wonderful but it's still early. He's going to be a 20+ ppg scorer on the team with the best record in the league. He's going to be an allstar.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 01:32 PM
The only Celtic starter that isn't averaging led points than they did last year is Derrick White. Brown is well capable of averaging 25 but this isn't the team for individual statistics. The shooting numbers aren't wonderful but it's still early. He's going to be a 20+ ppg scorer on the team with the best record in the league. He's going to be an allstar.

The Celtics will be the best team most likely but likely won’t have a dominating record. Plenty of East teams have 2 all star caliber guys and will have good records why should they get one while Celtics have 3. Tatum, porzingis, Giannis, Dame, embiid, maxey, mitchell, garland, butler, bam, Tyrese, brunson, trae, Scottie is 14. Brown has to beat 3 of those guys. Haven’t even thrown in dejounte, lamelo or one of the Orlando forwards

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 01:42 PM
How often does a 20ppg scorer on the team with one of the best records miss the allstar game? Doubt Brown is the exception just because he has average shooting stats.

Kblaze8855
11-22-2023, 01:55 PM
Id imagine it will happen a lot more going forward than it did in the past considering how easy it is to score 20 on teams that score 118.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 02:01 PM
In this era with guys scoring more and analysts knowing ppg isn’t everything pretty common. This is the only era where people will entertain the argument that Derrick white might help the Celtics win more than jaylen.

Jamal Murray didn’t even get consideration last year, Aaron Gordon had way more of a chance of making it

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 02:10 PM
In this era with guys scoring more and analysts knowing ppg isn’t everything pretty common. This is the only era where people will entertain the argument that Derrick white might help the Celtics win more than jaylen.

Jamal Murray didn’t even get consideration last year, Aaron Gordon had way more of a chance of making it

Murray was still missing games as part of his recovery process. Derrick White is important to the Celtics but he's not going to be viewed as more important than Brown by many or really barely any people. It is true that there is more to the game than scoring but as Brown is a good two-way player that point will work in his favor.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 02:27 PM
Murray was still missing games as part of his recovery process. Derrick White is important to the Celtics but he's not going to be viewed as more important than Brown by many or really barely any people. It is true that there is more to the game than scoring but as Brown is a good two-way player that point will work in his favor.

Oh it’s gaining traction on Reddit and white is an analytics darling. Defense does help brown but his poor playmaking hurts.

I would argue Murray wouldn’t have made it even if healthy but there are other examples. Maxey and bane last year didn’t get considered. Jrue didn’t make it in 2022 with 18/7 and elite defense and good efficiency. Poole and herro no consideration. Middleton and jrue didn’t make it in 21.

warriorfan
11-22-2023, 02:32 PM
Oh it’s gaining traction on Reddit and white is an analytics darling. Defense does help brown but his poor playmaking hurts.

I would argue Murray wouldn’t have made it even if healthy but there are other examples. Maxey and bane last year didn’t get considered. Jrue didn’t make it in 2022 with 18/7 and elite defense and good efficiency. Poole and herro no consideration. Middleton and jrue didn’t make it in 21.

White doing well in analytics isn’t that surprising he always has seemed sneaky good when I have seen them play. He was low key giving us fits at times during the Finals a few years back. Hated him and his light bulb head but he can play.

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 02:39 PM
Oh it’s gaining traction on Reddit and white is an analytics darling. Defense does help brown but his poor playmaking hurts.

I would argue Murray wouldn’t have made it even if healthy but there are other examples. Maxey and bane last year didn’t get considered. Jrue didn’t make it in 2022 with 18/7 and elite defense and good efficiency. Poole and herro no consideration. Middleton and jrue didn’t make it in 21.

Most of not all of those guys weren't in the team with the best record, which the Celtics are a strong possibility to attain. The strong analytics that favor White man little when it comes to the allstar game. Alder the starters are picked based largely on popularity it will be about the coach vote. Which has already gotten Brown in twice on Celtic teams that were not as good as the current group.

elementally morale
11-22-2023, 04:21 PM
Will the harsh officiating against Denver continue? Them losing a few games on the road looked inevitable even a week ago. Reggie Jackson is no Murray and he is ruining some of the chemistry the team usually has on the court. However, the refs went against Jokic hard. He basically wasn't allowed to play. Sure you can call all those fouls on him... but why now? He didn't do anything he doesn't do every other night. The Magic is a good young team so I'm looking forward to seeing tonight's game.

Kblaze8855
11-22-2023, 04:55 PM
Keep in mind I don’t care about this argument, and I’m posting this probably largely incorrect information off the top of my head because useless trivia of this type interests me….


People I suspect have scored 20 on a very highly seeded team while not making the all star game at the time


Dirk
Kevin Johnson
Peja
Terry Cummings
John Havlicek
Byron Scott
Mchale

Maybe Jalen Rose if he hit 20 for the 2000 pacers….but I kinda feel like he didn’t. I’m sure a few of those guys were like 19 and change or maybe had a 55 win 4th seed or something but…those are the names that came to me.

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 05:17 PM
Tonight I'm not sure how the Celtics will handle things but if they go with the normal starting five Giannis is a problem. The most natural match is Tatum but that could mean foul trouble. Based on how Embiid was handled it might just be Holiday but I don't see Giannis settling for jumpers like Embiid. I'm thinking it will mainly be Holliday and Horford off the bench. If neither guy is succeeding and/or Tatum doesn't have many could in the fourth that's when Tatum world take on the challenge.

I don't think Milwaukee wants Giannis on Tatum either but that's less of a foul concern and Giannis would discourage Tatum's post up game although Tatum could have an edge on the perimeter.

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 05:19 PM
Keep in mind I don’t care about this argument, and I’m posting this probably largely incorrect information off the top of my head because useless trivia of this type interests me….


People I suspect have scored 20 on a very highly seeded team while not making the all star game at the time


Dirk
Kevin Johnson
Peja
Terry Cummings
John Havlicek
Byron Scott
Mchale

Maybe Jalen Rose if he hit 20 for the 2000 pacers….but I kinda feel like he didn’t. I’m sure a few of those guys were like 19 and change or maybe had a 55 win 4th seed or something but…those are the names that came to me.

It's likely happened but aside from Dirk you're going pretty far back into the past.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 09:11 PM
Most of not all of those guys weren't in the team with the best record, which the Celtics are a strong possibility to attain. The strong analytics that favor White man little when it comes to the allstar game. Alder the starters are picked based largely on popularity it will be about the coach vote. Which has already gotten Brown in twice on Celtic teams that were not as good as the current group.

They were all on highly seeded teams. white won’t make the all star game yes but the fact that the narrative is out there hurts brown. The coach vote got brown in when he scored 27ppg and was the 2nd best player on the Celtics. Also he scored 24 in 2022 and didn’t make it. This year he won’t likely score 24 even and porzingis has obviously been the Celtics 2nd guy.

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 10:34 PM
Derrick White isn't discussed so much and rated so highly that he's going to bring down Brown's candidacy. There's no rule against the Celtics getting three Allstars and if they can take the best record there will be a movement for it. They're are a lot more coaches that respect winning than coaches that nitpick against a guy because he had good teammates.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 10:47 PM
unless the celtics are lapping the field(like they're 40-5 while the next best team is 30-15) no I dont think the celtics will have 3 all stars when there are so many good players and good teams in the east. who you play with will matter when discussing wins. the nuggets again were way better than any other team in the west and got one all star. Murray got punished for how good his teammates were and aaron gordon was the one who got all star consideration because of his defense and other things he did. I havent even mentioned holiday who will start shooting better. if he's putting up 15/6 on his typical efficiency with his defense by the all star game, he's going get some traction over brown too.

who are you taking brown over among the 14 guys I listed. I think garland is the only one debatable honestly. Brunson is likely going put up 25ppg as clearly the best guy on a top 8 seed, trae is going put up monster numbers on a top 8 seed as a lead guy too. Those are the bottom of the list and could easily not make it. Injuries will take some spots but we'll see how many it's usually 2-3

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 11:00 PM
Murray got "punished" for load management. I'm not sure how many games he missed at the time allstar coach votes were counted but by the end of the year he had missed 17. And at the allstar break no one really foresaw Denver winning a championship. Their profile got elevated. You can expect Murray to make it this season.

I don't believe in heavily weighting stats after just 14 games but Brown is having a year on par with most of those guys. I expect the coaches to understand that all three Celtic Allstars are scoring less and that's a result of the way they all had to adjust to play together and still get good production out of guys like Derrick White. I fully understand that you don't think Brown will make the allstar game but the way things have gone do far I have confidence in his candidacy.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 11:20 PM
Murray got "punished" for load management. I'm not sure how many games he missed at the time allstar coach votes were counted but by the end of the year he had missed 17. And at the allstar break no one really foresaw Denver winning a championship. Their profile got elevated. You can expect Murray to make it this season.

I don't believe in heavily weighting stats after just 14 games but Brown is having a year on par with most of those guys. I expect the coaches to understand that all three Celtic Allstars are scoring less and that's a result of the way they all had to adjust to play together and still get good production out of guys like Derrick White. I fully understand that you don't think Brown will make the allstar game but the way things have gone do far I have confidence in his candidacy.

people absolutely foresaw denver winning a title, denver was heads and shoulders above anyone else in the conference besides phx. gordon didnt make it either putting on 16ppg on great efficiency while being their best defender. I think you're underestimating how good some of those other guys in east have been, brown's numbers are not on par with those guys. the coaches do understand the volume argument. That applies much more to porzingis who's been amazingly efficient and great on defense.

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 11:33 PM
people absolutely foresaw denver winning a title, denver was heads and shoulders above anyone else in the conference besides phx. gordon didnt make it either putting on 16ppg on great efficiency while being their best defender. I think you're underestimating how good some of those other guys in east have been, brown's numbers are not on par with those guys. the coaches do understand the volume argument. That applies much more to porzingis who's been amazingly efficient and great on defense.

Gordon not making it averaging 16ppg is completely incomparable. 16ppg allstas that aren't also high assist point guards or big rebounding forwards are extremely rare.

I am not sure who was the championship favorite at the time coach all star votes were being cast but going into last season the favorite were the Warriors Celtics and Bucks. Denver was never viewed as a juggernaut team. Even after winning it all last year. Jokic gets a ton of credit but the overall team isn't viewed as an amazing collection of talent.

NBAGOAT
11-22-2023, 11:37 PM
Gordon not making it averaging 16ppg is completely incomparable. 16ppg allstas that aren't also high assist point guards or big rebounding forwards are extremely rare.

I am not sure who was the championship favorite at the time coach all star votes were being cast but going into last season the favorite were the Warriors Celtics and Bucks. Denver was never viewed as a juggernaut team. Even after winning it all last year. Jokic gets a ton of credit but the overall team isn't viewed as an amazing collection of talent.

gordon was the nuggets defensive anchor and everyone knew that. 16ppg guys who are that good on defense often make it. Denver was not a preseason favorite sure that's irrelevant, they were absolutely a favorite by the all star break

Real Men Wear Green
11-22-2023, 11:52 PM
gordon was the nuggets defensive anchor and everyone knew that. 16ppg guys who are that good on defense often make it. Denver was not a preseason favorite sure that's irrelevant, they were absolutely a favorite by the all star break

If they were favorites at the break I don't recall it. Regardless how many 16ppg Allstars can you think of that didn't have high numbers in assists or rebounds? I can't name one.

Real Men Wear Green
11-23-2023, 12:17 AM
Just thought of an example: Kyle Korver. And gordon is a better player than he was but that's only one guy in a weird year where the Hawks got a lot of Allstars. As a reward for winning (just saying).

NBAGOAT
11-23-2023, 12:26 AM
Just thought of an example: Kyle Korver. And gordon is a better player than he was but that's only one guy in a weird year where the Hawks got a lot of Allstars. As a reward for winning (just saying).

jaren was around 18-19ppg. He’s not a great rebounder either but tbf was dpoy. Draymond scored like much less than Gordon but tbf he’s a special case on defense too. Gordon wasn’t that good on defense he was in the all-defense convo and denver was easily best team in west. People were using same argument youve made with Celtics except denver would only have 2 all stars too but it still wasn’t enough

Real Men Wear Green
11-23-2023, 06:17 AM
On Friday the Celtics will have their third "1 vs 2" match up of the season. Might even be forth, not sure where Philly was in the standings the first time

Kblaze8855
11-28-2023, 08:06 PM
Jimmy butler out tonight vs the Bucks so I need something else to watch till Warriors/Kings.

ShawkFactory
11-28-2023, 08:08 PM
Jimmy butler out tonight vs the Bucks so I need something else to watch till Warriors/Kings.

Thunder/Wolves

tontoz
11-28-2023, 08:17 PM
Thunder/Wolves


Yeah I am recording that one. Next gen stars have been showing out.

Xiao Yao You
11-28-2023, 08:19 PM
Yeah I am recording that one. Next gen stars have been showing out.

Who wants to watch the best teams? I'm sure the Lakers. Clippers or Bulls are on instead!

Kblaze8855
11-28-2023, 08:20 PM
I heard CJ was close to returning from his weird collapsed lung. That could be a dangerous team with him providing some consistency.

tontoz
11-28-2023, 08:20 PM
Who wants to watch the best teams? I'm sure the Lakers. Clippers or Bulls are on instead!



Proud to say I haven't watched the Lakers once :lol

Xiao Yao You
11-28-2023, 08:20 PM
no just 8-9 GS. Must see tv!

Kblaze8855
11-29-2023, 09:10 PM
Well Embiid Bitch ass is sitting out versus the pelicans, so my basketball night is ruined. I’ll probably watch an episode of that Godzilla show on Apple.

tontoz
11-29-2023, 09:23 PM
Nice to see CJ back anyway.

Real Men Wear Green
11-30-2023, 08:21 PM
"And Wiggins is out with a sore finger. "

The NBATV guys have to know how that sentence sounds.

Kblaze8855
12-01-2023, 12:44 AM
Guess Clippers/Warriors is the bedtime game. I freely admit, I have no idea who this white kid on the Warriors is right now. Has the white fro and the headband. I clearly need to do homework.

Kblaze8855
12-01-2023, 12:54 AM
Norman Powell And Russell Westbrook are playing center for the clippers right now

warriorfan
12-01-2023, 01:01 AM
Guess Clippers/Warriors is the bedtime game. I freely admit, I have no idea who this white kid on the Warriors is right now. Has the white fro and the headband. I clearly need to do homework.

Brandin Podziemski. He had a good game the game Dray choked out Rudy and got ejected so they have been trying to give him a little more playtime

Kblaze8855
12-01-2023, 01:05 AM
I thought he was Dante DiVincenzo the way I saw him crash the offensive boards when I first turned it on. I don’t even know where that guy is now.

FultzNationRISE
12-01-2023, 01:14 AM
I thought he was Dante DiVincenzo the way I saw him crash the offensive boards when I first turned it on. I don’t even know where that guy is now.

I think he’s on the Knicks, who are not going to win the title, but I dont think anyone wants to see them come playoff time either.

elementally morale
12-01-2023, 05:33 PM
76ers-Celtics and Nuggets-Suns one after the other is a promising night.

elementally morale
12-01-2023, 08:44 PM
What is the real reason of Embiid not playing in games like this? He missed an important one at the end of last year against the Nuggets. Is it:

A) real injury / illness
B) load management
C) fear of media backlash if things don't go his way
D) a simple tactic of not showing all your weapons to one of your main rivals

?

fourkicks44
12-01-2023, 09:31 PM
What is the real reason of Embiid not playing in games like this? He missed an important one at the end of last year against the Nuggets. Is it:

A) real injury / illness
B) load management
C) fear of media backlash if things don't go his way
D) a simple tactic of not showing all your weapons to one of your main rivals

?

I think he is legitimately ill.

Springer had an illness all week and Maxey and Joel also have one now.

I'm not sure if they even have to report covid anymore, so could be that.

elementally morale
12-01-2023, 10:01 PM
I think he is legitimately ill.

Springer had an illness all week and Maxey and Joel also have one now.

I'm not sure if they even have to report covid anymore, so could be that.

We all had that classmate who was legitimately ill when tests were taken at school. Even if I do believe he is ill this time (and I have no idea so I do, why not) it is rather unfortunate that a player of his caliber is robbing himself (and us) of so many great memories. The last time I saw him really fighting was when the 6ers lost to that miracle Kawhi shot. I was rooting for Embiid&co. Even if it is a bittersweet memory, it still is a memory. Losing is okay but I'm just missing something. Like with last year's MVP. I really root for this guy to prove himself but he has to find a way to somehow become ill at other times.

Mask the Embiid
12-01-2023, 10:25 PM
Mr November is pissed that it’s December 1st and just got ejected

Real Men Wear Green
12-01-2023, 11:09 PM
I would trade a first round pick for "BBall Paul." He should be more than the back up to the MVP.
Mr November is pissed that it’s December 1st and just got ejected Every time you open your mouth the Sixers lose. How does that feel?

fourkicks44
12-01-2023, 11:10 PM
Yo Pat Bev should have brought a camera out for the refs to take a look at because that strip on Jrue was clean :oldlol:

elementally morale
12-04-2023, 08:44 PM
It's interesting to see today's in-season tournament game having much less intensity so far than the qualifying games were. I saw increased effort there and decreased here in comparison with 'normal' regular season games. Will it change as the game goes on?

tontoz
12-14-2023, 06:09 PM
Strong lineup tonight

Kblaze8855
12-14-2023, 07:57 PM
And a garbage NFL game on top of it.

Real Men Wear Green
12-14-2023, 10:58 PM
Attempting to spark rumor and controversy here, but it's based on truth: after the game Donovan Mitchell covered his mouth to have a conversation with Jayson Tatum. Yesterday I ignored an article on my news feed about potential trade destinations for Mitchell. I don't think the Celtics would be willing to blow the hole in the team that they would have to create to trade for Mitchell but are Cavs fans worried about his future with that team?

highwhey
12-14-2023, 11:36 PM
And a garbage NFL game on top of it.

i had a garbage day at work too.

anyways, can you ask jeff when my mod powers will be activated? thanks

SATAN
12-14-2023, 11:52 PM
but are Cavs fans worried about his future with that team?

There's been rumors of him wanting to leave after the season ends for a while now. I doubt this changes anything.

Kblaze8855
01-02-2024, 06:43 PM
Idont know Why thunder Celtics isn’t on TNT considering that they shifted to doing Tuesdays but I guess it’ll be the league pass pick for tonight.

Kblaze8855
01-02-2024, 09:28 PM
It To me that they don’t get Porzingis the ball guarded by somebody 8 inches shorter than him. He scored a good bit but he can just turn and shoot over dude comfortably. And they’re out here getting contested Pritchard threes instead.

Kblaze8855
01-02-2024, 09:44 PM
I continue To be surprised at how quick Horford still is on defense when he needs to be.