How's the new flop rule going?

[Duffy Pratt]

I've seen four games so far, and there were two techs I saw called in the Celtic/Knick game. Otherwise nothing.

There was just a challenge to a foul call in the Milwaukee game. Tucker tried to draw a charge on Giannis. Foul called on Tucker. Challenge was called, and the refs overturned because the contact was "marginal." So Tucker fell to the floor on marginal contact. Isn't that sort of the definition of a flop?

Seen lots of flops in each of these games, including ones in the Celtics game that weren't called.

What about other games I haven't seen? Anyone seen any flop calls?

[Full Court]

It's part of NBA culture now. The only way to get rid of it is if refs crack down HARD. And I don't see that happening.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So far it's a bad rule. Yesterday one of the Knicks landed on Tatum's foot after attempting a three and fell. By rule that should be a foul on Tatum, although it wouldn't have been a big deal if it was ignored, it wasn't a truly egregious play by Tatum. But the ref not only didn't call a foul but decided it was a flop, awarding the Celtics a free throw. That was exceptionally badly done.

The flop tech is a good idea but should be done differently. Instead of being a live action call by the refs it should be reviewed either by some special replay office or by an initiated challenge. By forcing refs to make the call live you create the bad possibility that a bad call gets compounded by an extra point.

[Duffy Pratt]

So far it's a bad rule. Yesterday one of the Knicks landed on Tatum's foot after attempting a three and fell. By rule that should be a foul on Tatum, although it wouldn't have been a big deal if it was ignored, it wasn't a truly egregious play by Tatum. But the ref not only didn't call a foul but decided it was a flop, awarding the Celtics a free throw. That was exceptionally badly done.

The flop tech is a good idea but should be done differently. Instead of being a live action call by the refs it should be reviewed either by some special replay office or by an initiated challenge. By forcing refs to make the call live you create the bad possibility that a bad call gets compounded by an extra point.

Yeah, I saw that. So by my tally, it's been called twice so far, and once it was clearly a bad call.

I almost think they should review the games afterwards, call the flops on each side. Fine players accordingly. And the next time the teams meet, both teams start by shooting the technicals. We could have games with 20-30 points on the board before the opening whistle.

[fourkicks44]

I've seen four games so far, and there were two techs I saw called in the Celtic/Knick game. Otherwise nothing.

There was just a challenge to a foul call in the Milwaukee game. Tucker tried to draw a charge on Giannis. Foul called on Tucker. Challenge was called, and the refs overturned because the contact was "marginal." So Tucker fell to the floor on marginal contact. Isn't that sort of the definition of a flop?

Seen lots of flops in each of these games, including ones in the Celtics game that weren't called.

What about other games I haven't seen? Anyone seen any flop calls?

If anyone was suspicious from watching the C's vs Knicks game and then the 76ers vs Bucks tonight, they would probably make the assumption someone behind the scenes got the word out to the refs to hold up on the flop techs

[fourkicks44]

So far it's a bad rule. Yesterday one of the Knicks landed on Tatum's foot after attempting a three and fell. By rule that should be a foul on Tatum, although it wouldn't have been a big deal if it was ignored, it wasn't a truly egregious play by Tatum. But the ref not only didn't call a foul but decided it was a flop, awarding the Celtics a free throw. That was exceptionally badly done.

The flop tech is a good idea but should be done differently. Instead of being a live action call by the refs it should be reviewed either by some special replay office or by an initiated challenge. By forcing refs to make the call live you create the bad possibility that a bad call gets compounded by an extra point.

Looks like they admitted to the mistake.

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/10/26/referees-missed-call-celtics-jayson-tatum-knicks-jalen-brunson

Yeah this is clearly the reason we haven't seen any flop techs tonight.

Refs f@cked up in crunch time. Not a good look and it will probably change the way refs will call it from now.

[Xiao Yao You]

NBA Official: NYK’s Donte DiVincenzo was assessed a postgame Flopping fine of $2,000 upon league office review (http://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1717673728044130559) for nba.com/watch/video/celtics-vs-knicks-10-25-2023 on Oct. 25 vs. BOS.
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NBA Official: CHI’s Jevon Carter was assessed a postgame Flopping fine of $2,000 upon league office review (http://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1717673728044130559) for nba.com/watch/video/thunder-vs-bulls-10-25-2023 on Oct. 25 vs. OKC.
– via Twitter (http://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1717673728044130559)

[fourkicks44]

From what I have seen in the last two weeks it seems the refs don't know what they are calling and the intentions of the rule , whatever they were supposed to be, have been lost in the implementation.

[hateraid]

People are gonna get hurt. I've seen legit pushoffs that were called flopping. Players gonna have to start posturing to prevent pushoffs which will in turn become combative. Broken wrists soon to come