Athiesm is silly when you think about it...

[Baller234]

let me me just start by saying that i actually did go through in a phase in my life where i considered myself an atheist, from my late teens to my mid 20's. then again i was also arrogant and naive (like most teens and young adults).

it is one thing to question the existence of a higher power. it is another thing to outright deny the existence of one with absolute certainty. just as those who have religious faith cannot be certain, neither can atheists.

also worth noting that every great civilization throughout history had some kind of foundational spiritual belief at their core. to my knowledge there has never been a secular society who achieved anything worth noting. users are free to prove me wrong of course but again keep in mind i'm not talking about individuals, i'm talking about peoples and societies.

for example i don't doubt that an atheist living in the US could achieve something that would have a profound impact on humanity, but their achievement would still be a byproduct of living in a country whose rights and freedoms are considered god given.

[Patrick Chewing]

let me me just start by saying that i actually did go through in a phase in my life where i considered myself an atheist, from my late teens to my mid 20's. then again i was also arrogant and naive (like most teens and young adults).

it is one thing to question the existence of a higher power. it is another thing to outright deny the existence of one with absolute certainty. just as those who have religious faith cannot be certain, neither can atheists.

also worth noting that every great civilization throughout history had some kind of foundational spiritual belief at their core. to my knowledge there has never been a secular society who achieved anything worth noting. users are free to prove me wrong of course but again keep in mind i'm not talking about individuals, i'm talking about peoples and societies.

for example i don't doubt that an atheist living in the US could achieve something that would have a profound impact on humanity, but their achievement would still be a byproduct of living in a country whose rights and freedoms are considered god given.

What gets me about atheists in the 21st century is the arrogance they have in thinking they know more than Theologians and Historians who not only have a closer foundation to religion and to a higher power, but have studied the history behind the formation of religion. The arrogance of the Atheist that thinks they are smarter than any member of the Church. And when you think that Atheists are probably more prevalent when they are in their teens or early adulthood, it's also another indicator that the Atheist just isn't old enough and educated enough to make these conclusions on the lack of a higher power. It's not a decision they come to based on research or study, it's a conclusion they come to purely based on emotion.

Your story is similar to mine. I was probably Atheist for many years in my youth, but it took the death of a relative to understand that the finality of death cannot be the end of the miracle of life. And the common day Atheist may find that reasoning to be silly, but there is more evidence out there than ever before in the idea of Creationism. So if you're an Atheist who hates organized Religion but leaves a sliver of hope open for the idea of a Creator, then Creationism gives us mountains of evidence. Whether it's the complexity of DNA to the idea that something cannot come from nothing in relation to the modern-day explanation of the Big Bang "Theory", Creationism gives the least ardent Atheist a sliver of hope.

You may enjoy this video of two former Atheists with a simple and logical explanation for how they came back to God or came to God for the first time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVy1PUjVuvE&t=847s

The first 20 minutes of the video is where they primarily focus on their beginnings as Atheist and their eventual path back to God.

[iamgine]

I think there's some misconceptions on atheists. First, most atheists don't reject the idea of a higher being, they just reject the explanation of current religions. Second, other than a small minority, most atheists don't look to convert anyone or think they know more than anyone. The atheists I know are like Buddhists. They don't concern themselves with the higher power but just on living their life. If there's a higher power, they believe it would not be so unjust as to judge them on whether they believe it exist or not.

[FultzNationRISE]

A lot of biblical allegories accurately parallel much later scientific/philosophic discoveries, there's no doubt about that. The bible is very likely a loose historical textbook based on events that did happen, including 1 in a million events that happened in ancient times and still happen today, tho likely recorded with poetic embellishment. It's very unlikely someone sat down and just conjured these stories purely out of thin air. Theyre based on real accounts passed down over time.

Did Noah really build a giant ark and acquire two of every animal? Probably not. Are there select people each generation who take an abundance of precaution against mega disasters, and when a huge one came upon the biblical Noah's town he was one of the few to navigate it successfully? Seems quite plausible. Are there lessons that can be learned from such accounts? I would say so.

At the end of the day, whatever your value set, be it religious or atheist or whatever, strive to use it for personal peace rather than public power.

[SATAN]

What gets me about atheists in the 21st century is the arrogance they have in thinking they know more than Theologians and Historians who not only have a closer foundation to religion and to a higher power, but have studied the history behind the formation of religion. The arrogance of the Atheist that thinks they are smarter than any member of the Church. And when you think that Atheists are probably more prevalent when they are in their teens or early adulthood, it's also another indicator that the Atheist just isn't old enough and educated enough to make these conclusions on the lack of a higher power. It's not a decision they come to based on research or study, it's a conclusion they come to purely based on emotion.

Your story is similar to mine. I was probably Atheist for many years in my youth, but it took the death of a relative to understand that the finality of death cannot be the end of the miracle of life. And the common day Atheist may find that reasoning to be silly, but there is more evidence out there than ever before in the idea of Creationism. So if you're an Atheist who hates organized Religion but leaves a sliver of hope open for the idea of a Creator, then Creationism gives us mountains of evidence. Whether it's the complexity of DNA to the idea that something cannot come from nothing in relation to the modern-day explanation of the Big Bang "Theory", Creationism gives the least ardent Atheist a sliver of hope.

You may enjoy this video of two former Atheists with a simple and logical explanation for how they came back to God or came to God for the first time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVy1PUjVuvE&t=847s

The first 20 minutes of the video is where they primarily focus on their beginnings as Atheist and their eventual path back to God.

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[Lakers Legend#32]

God is just a coping device for people who can't handle the stressors of life.

[Nanners]

A lot of biblical allegories accurately parallel much later scientific/philosophic discoveries, there's no doubt about that. The bible is very likely a loose historical textbook based on events that did happen, including 1 in a million events that happened in ancient times and still happen today, tho likely recorded with poetic embellishment. It's very unlikely someone sat down and just conjured these stories purely out of thin air. Theyre based on real accounts passed down over time.

Did Noah really build a giant ark and acquire two of every animal? Probably not. Are there select people each generation who take an abundance of precaution against mega disasters, and when a huge one came upon the biblical Noah's town he was one of the few to navigate it successfully? Seems quite plausible. Are there lessons that can be learned from such accounts? I would say so.

At the end of the day, whatever your value set, be it religious or atheist or whatever, strive to use it for personal peace rather than public power.

I think the fantastic and supernatural myths/stories passed down from ancient cultures are much more real life story than myth. Virtually every ancient culture on the planet has a "god wiping the planet with a massive flood" myth/story (this myth is present in ancient cultures from the americas, europe, asia, africa, australia, etc) and scientists admit that there was a series of massive and globally catastrophic floods at the end of the last ice age ~12000 years ago... which is right around the time that organized human civilization is said to have begun.

[Baller234]

God is just a coping device for people who can't handle the stressors of life.

atheism is a coping device for those who cannot acknowledge the blessings that god gave them.

[Patrick Chewing]

God is just a coping device for people who can't handle the stressors of life.

You should be super religious then based on your posts on this site.

[bladefd]

I don't consider myself atheist but rather agnostic. Still, OP is silly when you think about it...

[SATAN]

You should be super religious then based on your posts on this site.

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[Patrick Chewing]

https://c3conversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/HoldingUpTheMirror.jpg

I am religious, dummy.

[SATAN]

You don't take it seriously. Let's be honest here. It's just something that fills the back of your mind. You know I am right.

[Dbrog]

I think there's some misconceptions on atheists. First, most atheists don't reject the idea of a higher being, they just reject the explanation of current religions. Second, other than a small minority, most atheists don't look to convert anyone or think they know more than anyone. The atheists I know are like Buddhists. They don't concern themselves with the higher power but just on living their life. If there's a higher power, they believe it would not be so unjust as to judge them on whether they believe it exist or not.

Yup this is accurate based on my experiences. I realize it's technically agnosticism though. It's very strange to me how anyone religious or not can have absolute belief in something that they have never seen evidence for and won't until they are dead

[Patrick Chewing]

You don't take it seriously. Let's be honest here. It's just something that fills the back of your mind. You know I am right.

You know nothing about me.

[SATAN]

You know nothing about me.

Racist? Check
Alt right? Check
Trumptard? Check
Compulsive liar? Check
Always plays victim? Check
Lies about living in NY and running a jewelry store? Check
Has posted multiple pictures of random people claiming they are him before being exposed by Louie? Check
Confessed to being in a homosexual online relationship with Louie? Check
Was a fan of the Halo series? Check
Hypocrite? Check
Is a "non practicing Catholic" (lol)? Check
Supports one of the saddest franchises in sports? Check
Is regularly bullied by RRR3 and Lakers Legend? Check
Is absolutely going to Hell when he passes on from this place? Check

Need I go on?

[Axe]

What about 'xxxl jersey addict'? Lmao.

[Lakers Legend#32]

What about 'xxxl jersey addict'? Lmao.

What about Poopsie's fake black girlfriend? LAMO

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoYyiNRtMEE&ab_channel=ComedyBoutique

Yeah, it's atheists that are silly :lol

[Jasper]

You know nothing about me.

your a fat fvck what else is there to know

[Baller234]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoYyiNRtMEE&ab_channel=ComedyBoutique

Yeah, it's atheists that are silly :lol

sounds like he is referring to organized religion to me, not spiritual belief. there a plenty of things you can say about organized religion.

[Patrick Chewing]

your a fat fvck what else is there to know

Jasper, I'm ashamed at you the most. SATAN, Axe, highweight, etc, those guy are all trolls. You on the other hand are in your 80's and you should be a lot wiser. Also, consider how I've helped you in this forum. I showed you how to embed Youtube videos and I always try to point out your grammatical errors so that you don't come across as retarded as you probably really are.

This is beneath you.

[Jasper]

got to lov Tyson :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoNViivs3U8

[Axe]

Jasper, I'm ashamed at you the most. SATAN, Axe, highweight, etc, those guy are all trolls. You on the other hand are in your 80's and you should be a lot wiser. Also, consider how I've helped you in this forum. I showed you how to embed Youtube videos and I always try to point out your grammatical errors so that you don't come across as retarded as you probably really are.

This is beneath you.
Cringe.

[Jasper]

Jasper, I'm ashamed at you the most. SATAN, Axe, highweight, etc, those guy are all trolls. You on the other hand are in your 80's and you should be a lot wiser. Also, consider how I've helped you in this forum. I showed you how to embed Youtube videos and I always try to point out your grammatical errors so that you don't come across as retarded as you probably really are.

This is beneath you.

first I was 60 , than 70 now 80 all in a year.... listen fat fvck stay off this board.

[baudkarma]

I'm an agnostic. I can't prove there is no god... hell, I can't prove that Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny aren't real. And I have no problem if other people take comfort in their religion. What I do have a problem with is when followers of a particular religion attempt to impose their beliefs on others who don't share their views. Especially when they arrogantly assume that their religion is the "right" one. So we get the Ten Commandments posted in the lobby of the state capitol, but if someone wanted to put up something related to Islam or Hinduism or Buddhism... well good luck with that.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm an agnostic. I can't prove there is no god... hell, I can't prove that Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny aren't real. And I have no problem if other people take comfort in their religion. What I do have a problem with is when followers of a particular religion attempt to impose their beliefs on others who don't share their views. Especially when they arrogantly assume that their religion is the "right" one. So we get the Ten Commandments posted in the lobby of the state capitol, but if someone wanted to put up something related to Islam or Hinduism or Buddhism... well good luck with that.

Hmmm I would argue that the Ten Commandments isn't a byproduct of Christianity because for one thing, Moses lived some 1500 years before Christ, and some 1800 years before Christianity was adopted globally. I know what you are saying, but the Ten Commandments is probably a bad example. And yes, Christians and Jews certainly adopted The Ten Commandments as foundations for their religion. And, since most settlers that arrived in the United States were Christian, you can understand how the Ten Commandments would be displayed at State Capitols since the United States was founded under a Judeo-Christian philosophy. However, there is probably no other country in the world where you can practice whatever you want to believe in as freely as this one. What lies or doesn't lie in the State Capitol is inconsequential in today's day and age.

[highwhey]

Hmmm I would argue that the Ten Commandments isn't a byproduct of Christianity because for one thing, Moses lived some 1500 years before Christ, and some 1800 years before Christianity was adopted globally. I know what you are saying, but the Ten Commandments is probably a bad example. And yes, Christians and Jews certainly adopted The Ten Commandments as foundations for their religion. And, since most settlers that arrived in the United States were Christian, you can understand how the Ten Commandments would be displayed at State Capitols since the United States was founded under a Judeo-Christian philosophy. However, there is probably no other country in the world where you can practice whatever you want to believe in as freely as this one. What lies or doesn't lie in the State Capitol is inconsequential in today's day and age.

you are in violation of christian values bc you are an obese pig. the bible says to take care of your body and to not overeat and over-indulge in food, something you violate on an hourly basis when you stuff your fat face with greasy bacon and pizza.

[SATAN]

you are in violation of christian values bc you are an obese pig. the bible says to take care of your body and to not overeat and over-indulge in food, something you violate on an hourly basis when you stuff your fat face with greasy bacon and pizza.

:lol

[bladefd]

Hmmm I would argue that the Ten Commandments isn't a byproduct of Christianity because for one thing, Moses lived some 1500 years before Christ, and some 1800 years before Christianity was adopted globally. I know what you are saying, but the Ten Commandments is probably a bad example. And yes, Christians and Jews certainly adopted The Ten Commandments as foundations for their religion. And, since most settlers that arrived in the United States were Christian, you can understand how the Ten Commandments would be displayed at State Capitols since the United States was founded under a Judeo-Christian philosophy. However, there is probably no other country in the world where you can practice whatever you want to believe in as freely as this one. What lies or doesn't lie in the State Capitol is inconsequential in today's day and age.

Really? Have you heard of the separation of state and church? Perhaps in something called the US constitution.. You might have heard of it??

[Axe]

Hmmm I would argue that the Ten Commandments isn't a byproduct of Christianity because for one thing, Moses lived some 1500 years before Christ, and some 1800 years before Christianity was adopted globally. I know what you are saying, but the Ten Commandments is probably a bad example. And yes, Christians and Jews certainly adopted The Ten Commandments as foundations for their religion. And, since most settlers that arrived in the United States were Christian, you can understand how the Ten Commandments would be displayed at State Capitols since the United States was founded under a Judeo-Christian philosophy. However, there is probably no other country in the world where you can practice whatever you want to believe in as freely as this one. What lies or doesn't lie in the State Capitol is inconsequential in today's day and age.
Just wondering. How many of those ten commandments have you violated already? :ohwell:

[Patrick Chewing]

Really? Have you heard of the separation of state and church? Perhaps in something called the US constitution.. You might have heard of it??

:facepalm

That's not what the Separation of Church and State means.

[bladefd]

:facepalm

That's not what the Separation of Church and State means.

USA wasn't founded as a Christian nation. The entire point was that the government would be independent altogether from any organized religion and folks would have freedom to believe what they wanted.

[Patrick Chewing]

USA wasn't founded as a Christian nation. The entire point was that the government would be independent altogether from any organized religion and folks would have freedom to believe what they wanted.

The Constitution is not a Christian Constitution. Our laws aren't Christian laws. So the Separation of Church and State is there. Every religion can freely practice in this country. So just because the Ten Commandments or the Bible lies at State Capitols nationwide doesn't mean anything. It just means that this country was founded on Christian ideals, but not Christian law. Isn't it down in Florida where there is a statue dedicated to Satanism at the State Capitol? If that's allowed, then nobody should be griping.

[SATAN]

If that's allowed, then nobody should be griping.

Is this not a thread in which you do exactly what you're saying nobody should be doing? :facepalm