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diamenz
10-29-2023, 03:23 PM
continue the occupation until the next hamas arises and another oct 7th happens?

what's the end game, pro-israelists (genuinely asking, not being glib)?

the only answer is 1967 borders with a wall greater than china's and a two-state solution. otherwise, there's just gonna be another oct 7th sometime down the road.

Nanners
10-29-2023, 03:28 PM
Its obvious - if israel kills enough gazan children, the surviving children in Gaza will suddenly decide to support and embrace the occupying and imprisoning force that has been killing their relatives and blowing up their schools/hospitals for the past half century

diamenz
10-29-2023, 03:44 PM
Its obvious - if israel kills enough gazan children, the surviving children in Gaza will suddenly decide to support and embrace the occupying and imprisoning force that has been killing their relatives and blowing up their schools/hospitals for the past half century

"get my weight up with my hate and pay 'em back when i'm bigga"!

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Nanners
10-29-2023, 03:50 PM
"get my weight up with my hate and pay 'em back when i'm bigga"!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B46FX6iIgAAfe1u.jpg

Black on black lies is worse than black on black crime
The Jews share their truth on how to make a dime
Most black men couldn't balance a checkbook
But buy a new car, talkin' 'bout, "How my neck look?"

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Lakers Legend#32
10-29-2023, 05:03 PM
Its obvious - if israel kills enough gazan children, the surviving children in Gaza will suddenly decide to support and embrace the occupying and imprisoning force that has been killing their relatives and blowing up their schools/hospitals for the past half century

This was the US policy in Vietnam.

bladefd
10-29-2023, 06:08 PM
continue the occupation until the next hamas arises and another oct 7th happens?

what's the end game, pro-israelists (genuinely asking, not being glib)?

the only answer is 1967 borders with a wall greater than china's and a two-state solution. otherwise, there's just gonna be another oct 7th sometime down the road.

Fact is there is no real end game in sight. It's going to continue for the foreseeable future just like it has for the past 3,000 years in that middle-eastern region.

Patrick Chewing
10-29-2023, 06:11 PM
"Occupation"

:roll:

diamenz
10-29-2023, 06:25 PM
"Occupation"

:roll:

what would you call it then and how would you define it?

Nanners
10-29-2023, 06:34 PM
"Occupation"

:roll:

yeah no doubt its its hilarious to suggest that palestine has any kind of legitimate argument against Israel stealing their country.

highwhey
10-29-2023, 06:44 PM
"Occupation"

:roll:

this is coming from the guy that has threatened to shoot other ISH members for being in his neighborhood.

Nanners
10-29-2023, 06:46 PM
this is coming from the guy that has threatened to shoot other ISH members for being in his neighborhood.

Can we really blame him for that? how about the fact that he is guilty of being a latinx who doesnt have pronouns yet

diamenz
10-29-2023, 06:53 PM
chewing you've gone full libtard without realizing it. you got beat down, 'left' the board (for the second time in the last few years), came back... and instead of just dropping it or reaching out to people for honest debate you proceed to call everyone that doesn't agree with you racists. never go full libtard bro.

i honestly think you're brainwashed by right-wing media. you've turned into a pink-haired libtard with a maga hat on to disguise that fact.

Patrick Chewing
10-29-2023, 06:57 PM
what would you call it then and how would you define it?

What's the occupation? Where's the occupation taking place? Or are you guys just defining the State of Israel as the occupation? There should be no Israel, correct? Just want to know what you mean when you say "the occupation".

Nanners
10-29-2023, 06:58 PM
chewing you've gone full libtard without realizing it. you got beat down, 'left' the board (for the second time in the last few years), came back... and instead of just dropping it or reaching out to people for honest debate you proceed to call everyone that doesn't agree with you racists. never go full libtard bro.

i honestly think you're brainwashed by right-wing media. you've turned into a pink-haired libtard with a maga hat on to disguise that fact.

does Chewing = KevinNYC?

Patrick Chewing
10-29-2023, 07:02 PM
chewing you've gone full libtard without realizing it. you got beat down, 'left' the board (for the second time in the last few years), came back... and instead of just dropping it or reaching out to people for honest debate you proceed to call everyone that doesn't agree with you racists. never go full libtard bro.

i honestly think you're brainwashed by right-wing media. you've turned into a pink-haired libtard with a maga hat on to disguise that fact.

Nah nonsense. It's the Liberals that are standing with Palestine and the Right is standing with Israel.

And here's a wild concept from me. It's fine to be anti-Semitic, but not at the expense of supporting radical Islam. The Islamists can wipe Israel off the map, but they're not stopping there. What do you think China is doing with the Uyghurs?? They don't want that radical shit in their country.

SATAN
10-29-2023, 07:48 PM
It's fine to be anti-Semitic

:coleman:

RRR3
10-29-2023, 08:56 PM
Nah nonsense. It's the Liberals that are standing with Palestine and the Right is standing with Israel.

And here's a wild concept from me. It's fine to be anti-Semitic, but not at the expense of supporting radical Islam. The Islamists can wipe Israel off the map, but they're not stopping there. What do you think China is doing with the Uyghurs?? They don't want that radical shit in their country.
The truth comes out! Tubby couldn't hide it any longer

Patrick Chewing
10-29-2023, 09:00 PM
The truth comes out! Tubby couldn't hide it any longer

No, you retard. Be a bigot if you want to be, but to be bigoted against Jews when the Muzzies want you dead is foolish.

BurningHammer
10-29-2023, 09:11 PM
How are they gonna eliminate Hamas when its leaders are living in luxury and safety in Qatar?

RRR3
10-29-2023, 09:49 PM
No, you retard. Be a bigot if you want to be, but to be bigoted against Jews when the Muzzies want you dead is foolish.
Tubby is ok with anti-semitism.

imdaman99
10-29-2023, 10:55 PM
No, you retard. Be a bigot if you want to be, but to be bigoted against Jews when the Muzzies want you dead is foolish.

Who wants who dead? You're acting like the innocents are not innocent just because they're brown. STFU already

Patrick Chewing
10-29-2023, 11:59 PM
Who wants who dead? You're acting like the innocents are not innocent just because they're brown. STFU already

Why do Palestinians and Palestinians right here in New York chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"? What do you think that chant is? A nursery rhyme?

highwhey
10-30-2023, 12:16 AM
Why do Palestinians and Palestinians right here in New York chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"? What do you think that chant is? A nursery rhyme?

from the river to the sea, patrickchewing's stomach we can see

RRR3
10-30-2023, 12:44 AM
from the river to the sea, patrickchewing's stomach we can see
:roll: :roll: :roll:

iamgine
10-30-2023, 06:02 AM
Then install a puppet government.

BurningHammer
10-30-2023, 02:05 PM
Then install a puppet government.

It didn't work with Iraq or Afghanistan.

Baller234
10-30-2023, 02:57 PM
Then install a puppet government.

and what would be wrong with that?

wouldn't that be better than hamas?

iamgine
10-31-2023, 03:20 AM
It didn't work with Iraq or Afghanistan.

Sometimes work, sometimes not.

HighFlyer23
10-31-2023, 03:26 AM
People will never stop fighting oppression

There will always be a response

Muslims will not be conquered .... We're not Jews to give into cowardice

Nanners
11-03-2023, 04:56 AM
People will never stop fighting oppression

There will always be a response

Muslims will not be conquered .... We're not Jews to give into cowardice

Bingo

Even if Israel genocides every single person living in Gaza, Hamas will continue to exist (and potentially get even stronger) because Hamas is not really a group of people, it is an idea.

If Israel actually wants to eliminate Hamas, Israel has to offer Palestinians a better option than Hamas... which at this point would require some serious concessions (like ending the apartheid and giving Palestinians full citizenship rights + returning their stolen land).

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 10:21 AM
Bingo

Even if Israel genocides every single person living in Gaza, Hamas will continue to exist (and potentially get even stronger) because Hamas is not really a group of people, it is an idea.

If Israel actually wants to eliminate Hamas, Israel has to offer Palestinians a better option than Hamas... which at this point would require some serious concessions (like ending the apartheid and giving Palestinians full citizenship rights + returning their stolen land).

Listen to this f'n nut. :oldlol:


Hamas is an idea.....:roll:


If Israel eliminates Hamas, it eliminates Hamas. Those Muzzies are terrified of getting their shit pushed in. I posted in this same thread I think about how once Hamas is gone, the best way to recover for Palestine as a whole is to elect new leadership with the help of Muslim nations, with an immediate peace accord with Israel soon after.

That's how you solve the problem.

Nanners
11-03-2023, 10:47 AM
Listen to this f'n nut. :oldlol:


Hamas is an idea.....:roll:


If Israel eliminates Hamas, it eliminates Hamas. Those Muzzies are terrified of getting their shit pushed in. I posted in this same thread I think about how once Hamas is gone, the best way to recover for Palestine as a whole is to elect new leadership with the help of Muslim nations, with an immediate peace accord with Israel soon after.

That's how you solve the problem.

Imagine being dumb enough to think that via brute force you can kill a political stance held by desperate people who have virtually nothing to lose, people who lived under occupation for generations and think that its honorable for them to give up their lives in the fight against their oppressor.

This kind of retard thinking is exactly why the US spent ~20 years achieving absolutely nothing in Afghanistan, ultimately running off with their tails between their legs... and even when it was crystal clear to most people that Afghanistan was a lost cause, anyone who has been here a while remembers that dumb****s like patrick chewing supported the pointless lost cause Afghan war right up until Trump started talking shit about it.

I hope Israel does attempt to elimate Hamas through force. Over the past month, the world has finally begun to awaken to Israels barbaric treatment of the palestinians... attempting to eliminate Hamas by force will not only fail horribly but it will also further galvanize the rest of the world against their barbaric behavior.

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 10:51 AM
This clown talks about barbaric treatment of Palestinians when Palestinians crossed over, beheaded and burned children alive, killed 1400 in total and still remain with 300 hostages.

But yep, it's the Israelis that are the barbarians.


I dunno, do Israelis behead Palestinians just for fun? Do they behead and burn babies at all?

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 10:56 AM
Nanners and I at each other's throat doesn't sit well with me. It feels dirty.


Maybe we will find love again.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg

RRR3
11-03-2023, 11:06 AM
Fatty is heartbroken his stupidity lost him one of his only friends :yaohappy:

Nanners
11-03-2023, 11:08 AM
This clown talks about barbaric treatment of Palestinians when Palestinians crossed over, beheaded and burned children alive, killed 1400 in total and still remain with 300 hostages.

But yep, it's the Israelis that are the barbarians.


I dunno, do Israelis behead Palestinians just for fun? Do they behead and burn babies at all?

Imagine believing that with zero pushback, Hamas crossed over the most surveilled/defended border in the world and killed 1000+ people (despite the fact that the IDF has not allowed any party of attackers to strike outside of Gaza in decades).

Imagine believing that the 1400 Israeli children that were supposedly beheaded and burned alive (with zero evidence provided aside from lying MSM sources that clowns like Patrick have spent the past ~7 years mocking) are somehow more worthy of attention/sympathy than the 3k+ (and rapidly climbing) palestinian children who have died in the subsequent bombing of hospitals and churches in Gaza carried out by the IDF.

Do Israelis kill Palestinians for fun? It sure seems like it... why dont you go ask this question to the IDF snipers who regularly shoot children in Gaza for crimes like throwing rocks. While youre at it, ask them why they have spent decades killing any Palestinian who dared to approach the border from Gaza, and then suddenly decided to stop defending the border on october 7th.

Nanners
11-03-2023, 11:13 AM
Nanners and I at each other's throat doesn't sit well with me. It feels dirty.


Maybe we will find love again.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg

I still love you, but I dont feel remotely dirty arguing against your retarded points on this topic... and as far as arguments go I will proudly die on this hill.

Your dirty feeling probably comes from the fact that deep down you know you are wrong about this... and I know that you know you are wrong, because anybody with a functioning brain knows that what Israel is doing is wrong, and you have a functioning brain.

edit: your cognitive dissonance on this topic is also why you had to take several days off from the forum shortly after this conflict popped off

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 11:13 AM
Fatty is heartbroken his stupidity lost him one of his only friends :yaohappy:

I don't have online friends as you do. I have real-life friends that require me to leave the house and hang out with them.

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 11:23 AM
Imagine believing that with zero pushback, Hamas crossed over the most surveilled/defended border in the world and killed 1000+ people (despite the fact that the IDF has not allowed any party of attackers to strike outside of Gaza in decades).

Imagine believing that the 1400 Israeli children that were supposedly beheaded and burned alive (with zero evidence provided aside from lying MSM sources that clowns like Patrick have spent the past ~7 years mocking) are somehow more worthy of attention/sympathy than the 3k+ (and rapidly climbing) palestinian children who have died in the subsequent bombing of hospitals and churches in Gaza carried out by the IDF.

Do Israelis kill Palestinians for fun? It sure seems like it... why dont you go ask this question to the IDF snipers who regularly shoot children in Gaza for crimes like throwing rocks. While youre at it, ask them why they have spent decades killing any Palestinian who dared to approach the border from Gaza, and then suddenly decided to stop defending the border on october 7th.

So I'm supposed to believe the Palestinian death tolls but not believe the Israeli death toll? Is that what you're telling me?? :oldlol:

Nanners
11-03-2023, 11:31 AM
So I'm supposed to believe the Palestinian death tolls but not believe the Israeli death toll? Is that what you're telling me?? :oldlol:

Interesting that out of all the points I made in my post, the only thing you care to comment on is accuracy of death tolls. Do you think that nobody died when Israel blew up that baptist Christian hospital in Gaza? Do you think that nobody died when Israel blew up the ancient church that was being used as a refuge by civilians who had been forced out of their homes by Israeli violence? As a supposed christian, why do you have zero problem with the fact that Israel is blowing up Christian houses of healing and worship in their "war" against a political stance?

You believe that there is no question Hamas somehow crossed the most heavily surveilled border in the world and attacked/kidnapped/killed a thousand+ Israelis (who were apparently living right on the border of a violent concentration camp), yet you have a hard time believing that thousands of Palestinian civilians would be killed by bombing hospitals/churches and densely populated neighborhoods in Gaza?

that "dirty" feeling that you have right now, thats your conscience trying to tell you that you're horribly wrong.

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 11:41 AM
Interesting that out of all the points I made in my post, the only thing you care to comment on is accuracy of death tolls. Do you think that nobody died when Israel blew up that baptist Christian hospital? Do you think that nobody died when Israel blew up the ancient church that was being used as a refuge by civilians who had been forced out of their homes by Israeli violence?

You believe that there is no question Hamas somehow crossed the most heavily surveilled border in the world and attacked/kidnapped/killed a thousand+ Israelis (who were apparently living right on the border of a violent concentration camp), yet you have a hard time believing that thousands of Palestinian civilians would be killed by bombing hospitals/churches and densely populated neighborhoods in Gaza?

that "dirty" feeling that you have right now, thats your conscience trying to tell you that you're horribly wrong.

How am I supposed to have honest conversation and discourse with you when you automatically disregard the Israeli death toll cause of "Mainstream Media" or whatever nonsense you're talking about? So what makes you believe the Palestinian death toll? Al-Jazeera? Some other network with their pulse on the streets of Gaza? And if you're taking Hamas's word.....may God help you my friend.


I'm not the one denying the death tolls. You vehemently denied the Israeli death toll that's being reported all over the globe, so I'm just pushing back on that.



And I have no dirty feeling when it comes to terrorists getting a bomb dropped on them.


And is this the church you're talking about? https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-gaza-church-greek-orthodox-353825546166

Oops! Looks like it wasn't bombed after all. Or is AP lying??

And are you talking about the hospital bombing that came from Gaza and not from Israel? It's all over the news, buddy. So you're 0-2 in making Israel look like monsters I'm afraid.

Nanners
11-03-2023, 12:03 PM
How am I supposed to have honest conversation and discourse with you when you automatically disregard the Israeli death toll cause of "Mainstream Media" or whatever nonsense you're talking about? So what makes you believe the Palestinian death toll? Al-Jazeera? Some other network with their pulse on the streets of Gaza? And if you're taking Hamas's word.....may God help you my friend.

How am I supposed to have an honest conversation and discourse with you when you ignore the fact that virtually every citizen of Gaza was born into a prison camp through no fault of their own, 80% of Gaza has lost at least one immediate family member to Israeli violence, and the entirety of MSM discussion has been tilted in favor of Israel since basically forever (who do you think owns the media anyway?)

Imagine if one of your family members spent their entire life in an open air prison camp and was killed by a bomb dropped by the people imprisoning them, would you rationally conclude that the bombers were in the right because a supposed terrorist group was supposedly living near your dead loved one, or would you be furious at the murderers of your loved ones and want revenge?

Why do I believe the Palestinian death toll? Because unlike Israel, their death tolls are backed up by photographic evidence and common sense (Israel has the capability to bomb the shit out of Gaza, Gaza does not have the capability of attacking accross their border). An entire neighborhood turned to rubble clearly causes some significant casualties.



I'm not the one denying the death tolls. You vehemently denied the Israeli death toll that's being reported all over the globe, so I'm just pushing back on that.

Is your position in this argument so pathetic and undefensible that you must resort to outright lies to argue against me. Go back and look at what I said, I didnt deny anything - I said "imagine believing what the MSM tells you with zero evidence".

I remember back when you were highly skeptical of unproven claims made by MSM (a little over a month ago)


And I have no dirty feeling when it comes to terrorists getting a bomb dropped on them.

I believe that you have a dirty feeling because you know that huge numbers of innocent civilians are getting bombed to death, but maybe I misjudged you.



And is this the church you're talking about? https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-gaza-church-greek-orthodox-353825546166

Oops! Looks like it wasn't bombed after all. Or is AP lying??

And are you talking about the hospital bombing that came from Gaza and not from Israel? It's all over the news, buddy. So you're 0-2 in making Israel look like monsters I'm afraid.

For fvcks sake patrick, how can you be this fvcking stupid. Next time youre gonna post an article to back your position, spend a couple seconds to skim through it instead of just copy-pasting based on the headline, because here is the first sentence of your linked article -


Editor’s Note: This fact check was published Oct. 12, 2023. A week later on Thursday, Oct. 19, an airstrike toppled a wall at the Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrios causing serious damage and death.

"An airstrike toppled a wall at the church causing serious damage and death"... aka THE CHURCH WAS BOMBED AND PEOPLE INSIDE THE CHURCH DIED

Imagine being dumb enough to believe that Gaza blew up their own hospital, when Israel has been blowing up their hospitals for years. Imagine being dumb enough to believe that out of thousands of rocket attempts into Israel over the past decade+, Hamas has failed to kill more than 1 or 2 Israeli civilians with any single rocket... until very recently when they managed to accidentally hit their own buildings with two of their rockets, and somehow those rockets killed hundreds of people each.

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 12:16 PM
Read the entire article, amigo. That church still stands today and there is prayer currently going on.


I have no sympathy for Gazans. I'll put it to you plain as day as most of you have no sympathy for the Jews. We have plenty of people on this board that hate the Jews. Well, I hate Muslims. Just like I hate Nazis and Liberals. That warped demonic religion is what creates the strife in that region in my opinion. Gazans/Palestinians want a complete elimination of Israel. And some of you seem to be OK with that.

Where do the Jews go then? If you're a Christian that travels to Israel to visit the Holy Land, would you seriously go to that area if it was under Islamic rule? Hell no you probably wouldn't.


What is your solution? Israel is dissolved? Or more land is given back to Palestine? Cause I can post several videos of other Arabs in the region talking about how Israel has rightful claim to that land. So it seems to be that other Muslim nations have no qualm having Israel and Jews as their neighbor.

Nanners
11-03-2023, 12:36 PM
Read the entire article, amigo. That church still stands today and there is prayer currently going on.

The article was published on the 12th. The article says that claims that the church was bombed are "fake news". The editors note from the 19th says that the church was in fact bombed. Do you understand how publication dates and editors notes work? The article does not say that the church currently stands (minus a wall or two no doubt) or that there is prayer currently going on... The article says that its false that the church was blown up prior to the 12th, and then the article admits that the church was in fact blown up by the 19th.

Anyway, its laughable that you actually think that church services are still going on despite the fact that the church is missing at least one wall and according to your article "serious damage and death" was inflicted a few weeks ago.



I have no sympathy for Gazans. I'll put it to you plain as day as most of you have no sympathy for the Jews. We have plenty of people on this board that hate the Jews. Well, I hate Muslims. Just like I hate Nazis and Liberals. That warped demonic religion is what creates the strife in that region in my opinion. Gazans/Palestinians want a complete elimination of Israel. And some of you seem to be OK with that.

There wasnt any "strife" in that region before the UK and US empowered the Jews to steal land from the palestinians.

No shit Gazans/Palestinians want to eliminate Israel...Israel stole their land, put them in a concentration camp, and then called them "terrorists" for fighting back against decades of ethnic cleansing.

Are you truly this ignorant about cause-effect? Are you intentionally misinformed/stupid about history or is it just accidental?


Where do the Jews go then? If you're a Christian that travels to Israel to visit the Holy Land, would you seriously go to that area if it was under Islamic rule? Hell no you probably wouldn't.

Thats not my problem. Thats not a problem for palestinians. Thats a problem for the jews who stole the land and continue to violently suppress the rightful owners.

Why should jews be allowed to have their own ethnostate anyway? I thought the world was supposed to be full of multicultural democracies, here in the US we are constantly told about how whites are racist for noticing that other ethnic groups have issues with crime, or for not wanting to allow illegal immigrants to enjoy the benefits of citizenship... but when it comes to israel suddenly its ok for a state to openly oppress half of their residents because of those residents ethnic background?



What is your solution? Israel is dissolved? Or more land is given back to Palestine? Cause I can post several videos of other Arabs in the region talking about how Israel has rightful claim to that land. So it seems to be that other Muslim nations have no qualm having Israel and Jews as their neighbor.

What is your solution? From what I have seen, the only pro-israel solution being floated is that all 2.2M residents of Gaza are genocided (or sent to america/europe) and the remaining Palestinian land is stolen by Israeli settlers? Do you think that it would be fair for Israel to export a bunch of angry disenfranchised muslims into America and Europe so that we have to absorb their rage instead of the Israelis who caused it in the first place?

How about this for a solution. Israel continues to exist but Palestinians are given back their stolen land as well as being given the same citizenship rights that Israeli Jews currently enjoy... multicultural democracy is supposedly the pinnacle of civilization after all.

And BTW I dont give a shit what other arabs in the region supposedly have to say. According to you, Islam is a warped demonic religion, why should anybody care if warped demonic people say that Israel has rightful claim to their stolen land?

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 01:16 PM
The settler situation is one thing, but DO NOT act as if Israel has not tried to offer deals and agreements with Palestine. Every time they do, Palestine rejects it. And if the world classifies as Hamas as a terrorist organization, then how in the hell do you expect Israel to expect anything trustworthy coming from Gaza and Hamas? They want all Jews dead. So the genocide is coming from them, not from Israel. If Israelis were committing genocide, you'd think they'd start with the Muslims that are living in Israel as we speak.

Stolen land? C'mon man.

And the only reason I care about what that warped demonic religion has to say is because that warped demonic religion wants us all dead. It's either death or submission to their perverse religion. If you let that shit metastasize, then we'll be Europe in no time with "No-Go" zones.

bladefd
11-03-2023, 01:19 PM
Listen to this f'n nut. :oldlol:


Hamas is an idea.....:roll:


If Israel eliminates Hamas, it eliminates Hamas. Those Muzzies are terrified of getting their shit pushed in. I posted in this same thread I think about how once Hamas is gone, the best way to recover for Palestine as a whole is to elect new leadership with the help of Muslim nations, with an immediate peace accord with Israel soon after.

That's how you solve the problem.

Hamas' leadership isn't even in gaza/Palestine lol. They are in other countries safe in their multi-million dollar bungalows. They will begin recruiting anew the first chance they get after Israel installs another puppet government in a couple months.

bladefd
11-03-2023, 01:24 PM
The unfortunate part is that recruitment will probably be much easier because they will have lots of hatred/anger they will tap into.

Patrick Chewing
11-03-2023, 01:54 PM
Hamas' leadership isn't even in gaza/Palestine lol. They are in other countries safe in their multi-million dollar bungalows. They will begin recruiting anew the first chance they get after Israel installs another puppet government in a couple months.

And this shows how pathetic Hamas leadership is and how stupid those Hamas soldiers are for following orders that led to the death of women and children which oppose their religious beliefs. If I was a Hamas soldier being bombed to smithereens right now and my leader was sitting pretty in Qatar, I'd be pissed.

I'd also be pissed if I was an American or an Israeli knowing that Joe Biden is working behind the scenes with Qatar knowing full well they are protecting Ismail Haniyeh even after Hamas has kidnapped and murdered Americans.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-grilled-friendly-overtures-qatar-hamas-leader-lives

Nanners
11-03-2023, 02:34 PM
The settler situation is one thing, but DO NOT act as if Israel has not tried to offer deals and agreements with Palestine. Every time they do, Palestine rejects it. And if the world classifies as Hamas as a terrorist organization, then how in the hell do you expect Israel to expect anything trustworthy coming from Gaza and Hamas? They want all Jews dead. So the genocide is coming from them, not from Israel. If Israelis were committing genocide, you'd think they'd start with the Muslims that are living in Israel as we speak.

Bullshit Israel has tried to offer deals and agreements to Palestine... what exactly were the details of these deals and agreements? Did they offer to grant palestinian people as citizenship in the country which now exists upon their ancestral lands? Did they offer to let palestinians keep their homes, and/or did they give back any of the homes that they'd already stolen?

Palestinians dont want all jews dead, they didnt give a shit about jews until the jews showed up in their neighborhoods and started stealing their land by force.

Stolen land? C'mon man.


And the only reason I care about what that warped demonic religion has to say is because that warped demonic religion wants us all dead. It's either death or submission to their perverse religion. If you let that shit metastasize, then we'll be Europe in no time with "No-Go" zones.

What do you mean "us"? Do you really think that you are one of them? Do you support bombing hospitals and refugee camps if it might result in a handful of the enemy dying?

I dont think you are one of them... lots of people talk shit on christian values, and american values, but ask yourself what kind of christian or american would allow their fellow man to be treated as a criminal since birth for the simple crime of being born in the wrong place? You dont have to be one of their obedient goys

Nanners
11-03-2023, 02:37 PM
And this shows how pathetic Hamas leadership is and how stupid those Hamas soldiers are for following orders that led to the death of women and children which oppose their religious beliefs. If I was a Hamas soldier being bombed to smithereens right now and my leader was sitting pretty in Qatar, I'd be pissed.


Great point, no doubt intelligent soldiers only follow leaders who put themselves out on the front line, like the Israeli generals who always lead the charge when they order an attack against a hospital or refugee camp, or the US generals who busy themselves with inclusion and pride flags instead of spending time with their men underground.

Lakers Legend#32
11-03-2023, 04:22 PM
This is like Dubya.

Invade Iraq, then what?