Is it too early to brag that the Lakers have zero chance this year?

[3ba11]

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[Full Court]

Nah, man. Waaaaaaayyyy to early. I'm hoping they end up a lottery team, but they have a very real chance at the title.

[Wardell Curry]

Is it too late to brag that Jordan didn't win the title at age 39 either? I suspect the same answer can be had for both questions, regardless of what you want that answer to be.

[Xiao Yao You]

What chance? Davis and Lebron staying healthy? :facepalm

[Full Court]

What chance? Davis and Lebron staying healthy? :facepalm

Lebron not being healthy is in fact the best chance they have at the title.

[ShawkFactory]

The likely won't be winning the title. Do they have a shot? Sure.

But yea you can start bragging. The odds are in your favor.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They have no shot but 38/39 James is still better than 38/39 MJ or Kobe so you will still have to take your meds.

[SouBeachTalents]

They have no shot but 38/39 James is still better than 38/39 MJ or Kobe so you will still have to take your meds.
He should take his meds regardless.

[John8204]

No....it;s not too early this team is good but will likely go out in the first round. Suns, Warriors, and Nuggets are too good

[Xiao Yao You]

No....it;s not too early this team is good but will likely go out in the first round. Suns, Warriors, and Nuggets are too good

got to make the play-in first. That's not going to be easy

[Axe]

We have wemby playing in the league already and we still have the very same obsessed retards who are still incapable of not scrutinizing the mighty king kong lol.

[Full Court]

No....it;s not too early this team is good but will likely go out in the first round. Suns, Warriors, and Nuggets are too good

But all those teams are 1 key injury away from being irrelevant. Anything could happen.

[Xiao Yao You]

But all those teams are 1 key injury away from being irrelevant. Anything could happen.

some teams are more likely to have injuries. Almost certain Lebron and Davis will miss significant time

[SATAN]

I wouldn't be making threads like this yet. I think the Lakers are going to hit their stride and look a lot better. Key guys haven't played well, idiotic pocket hands still experimenting with rotations and benching guys who actually are playing well etc

[John8204]

But all those teams are 1 key injury away from being irrelevant. Anything could happen.

Right but you are saying the top three teams in the west would all have to have devastating injuries...and The Lakers would have to be healthy...and they would beat the team coming out of the East. If I were tp break down the odds going into this season it would be something like

20% - Suns
15% - Celtics
15% - Bucks
15% - Nuggets
15% - Warriors
5% - Miami
15% - The Field - and that's the entire field...I wouldn't have the Lakers at the top of that list

[3ba11]

They have no shot but 38/39 James is still better than 38/39 MJ or Kobe so you will still have to take your meds.


It's a fact that 38-year old Lebron isn't as good as 38 year old Jordan because before Jordan's 39th birthday (when he got hurt), the 38-year old Jordan was 1 of 3 guys averaging 25/5/5 (Kobe, Tmac, MJ) and he had 3 game-winners with a bunch of 40 or 50 point games - he was a top 10 player for sure, while Lebron isn't that right now, nor could he hang with prime Kobe or Tmac like MJ did.. Bron is' a turnover machine that can't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 5 feet in the no-defense era.. He isn't as good as 38-year old Jordan.. Maybe you need to go watch 01' and 02' Jordan drop game-winners on Shawn Marion or hit for 40 and 50 in back-to-back nights in the toughest defensive era - Lebron isn't that good right now or last year.. :confusedshrug:.. but carry on the delusion infused into your brain by the mainstream media that 38-year old Lebron can hang with 38-year old MJ

[Real Men Wear Green]

Oh look. Excuses. Fascinating.

[3ba11]

Nah, man. Waaaaaaayyyy to early. I'm hoping they end up a lottery team, but they have a very real chance at the title.


Bruh, relax.. there's no need to worry.. The Lakers cannot with Lebron as the best player and obviously not AD..

Can you see these Lakers winning with AD as the best player?.. it's impossible - he simply isn't good enough.. Tatum, Joker, Giannis, and numerous others are superior players with better casts (i think lebron is a big negative right now)

this idea that AD on the level of a Joker, Giannis or even Embiid is a joke because he's NEVER been anywhere near as consistent as those guys and his peak play is actually a distinct level below Joker or Giannis..

[3ba11]

Oh look. Excuses. Fascinating.


I'm just looking at their play specifically at 38 years old.. MJ's was superior because he was hanging with the best perimeter players like Kobe and Tmac, while Lebron isn't as good as SGA, Tatum or Luka..

Lebron is pretty bad when you consider the defensive era and yet his efficiency outside of 5 feet doesn't exist and completely hamstrings the coach into inferior strategy.. People just have no idea how weak his play actually is - it's losing basketball on both ends of the court.. Only an excellent supporting cast makes the Lakers viable otherwise they would be lottery like 19' or 22'.

And MJ's peak play at 38 was obviously superior to Lebron's... He could actually hit game-winners and completely take over games to a level that Lebron never did quite frankly.. MJ could still do that at 38 and Lebron has never dominated on that level

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm just looking at excuses.

[3ba11]

I'm just looking at excuses.


I'm just looking at their play specifically at 38 years old (before 39) - MJ's was superior

Meanwhile, all I hear from you is a deflection from the fact that 38-year Lebron can't hit game-winners, jumpers, ball-control, play defense, or execute goat-level domination like MJ could

[StrongLurk]

It's hard to see Lebron and AD as top ten players this year. They seem very fringe top ten, mostly due to the fact that they can't stay healthy and Lebron is just too damn old. Lakers absolutely need big contributions from the "others".

I don't see how the Lakers could beat Denver or even the Suns. Depending on health and potential playoff seeding, Lakers could miss the playoffs or push to the WCF again. But they aren't winning shit unless AD/Lebron magically get back to their Bubble level of play.

[Full Court]

Bruh, relax.. there's no need to worry.. The Lakers cannot with Lebron as the best player and obviously not AD..

Can you see these Lakers winning with AD as the best player?.. it's impossible - he simply isn't good enough.. Tatum, Joker, Giannis, and numerous others are superior players with better casts (i think lebron is a big negative right now)

this idea that AD on the level of a Joker, Giannis or even Embiid is a joke because he's NEVER been anywhere near as consistent as those guys and his peak play is actually a distinct level below Joker or Giannis..

What worries me though is that Lebron is getting old. There's increased chance he gets injured every year. If he ends up being out for an extended period of time, the Lakers will flourish.

If you remember, last year the Lakers didn't even hit .500 until Lebron sat out for six weeks with a "sore" foot. Then all of a sudden they started winning and rocketed from 12th seed to 7th seed. That's what I'm worried about. They're actually a really good team without LeDeadWeight.

[3ba11]

What worries me though is that Lebron is getting old. There's increased chance he gets injured every year. If he ends up being out for an extended period of time, the Lakers will flourish.

If you remember, last year the Lakers didn't even hit .500 until Lebron sat out for six weeks with a "sore" foot. Then all of a sudden they started winning and rocketed from 12th seed to 7th seed. That's what I'm worried about. They're actually a really good team without LeDeadWeight.


When Lebron eventually sits out with another "injury", the team will take off again but an AD-led team can only be so good - not better than Giannis or Joker obviously.. And when Lebron comes back, he makes the team worse, so that's not a recipe for the title either.. They simply can't win.. Not good enough.. Other teams have better top guys and also better chemistry and therefore cast

[Jasper]

bron no look defense

AD wounded fake knee

Equals Ham looking for help

[red1]

they're 1-2 right now


that means they're coming out of the west.

[red1]

Oh look. Excuses. Fascinating.

:oldlol:

[coin24]

They look like shit..

I still can’t believe they brought DSlow back he’s horrendous.
Most of their off-season signings are pathetic, and bran and AD are old / washed beta.

It was hilarious everyone hyping them in the off-season :lol they’ll be lucky to make the play in.

They can’t defend or hit a 3 to save their lives.. gabe vincent ? wtf were they smoking:roll:

[sdot_thadon]

They have no shot but 38/39 James is still better than 38/39 MJ or Kobe so you will still have to take your meds.

Why you go and do that? He doesn't handle reality well, now they'll have to double his dosage just to get him to calm down lol. I bet he suffered hard when they told him about Santa Claus.

[Airupthere]

It's still too early to tell whether Bron will need to fake another timely and convenient "injury".

[SouBeachTalents]

It's still too early to tell whether Bron will need to fake another timely and convenient "injury".
You just need to shut the hell up, LeBron is living rent free inside of your head. He's the all time scorings leader and surpass the late Kobe Bryant.

[Charlie Sheen]

I never understood why those 72 dolphins popping the champagne used to rub some people the wrong way. The would get all upset about those bitter old men desperate to stay relevant.

Now I get it.

[JohnMax]

They're without Jared Vanderbilt who's out with injury.

[red1]

they have 2 wins and an overtime loss on the road to a good team in the kings and the only other loss is to the champs, also on the road


AD looks great



I think the lakers are fine :oldlol:

[3ba11]

they have 2 wins and an overtime loss on the road to a good team in the kings and the only other loss is to the champs, also on the road


AD looks great



I think the lakers are fine :oldlol:


You're just going game by game and don't see the big picture

The Lakers should have decent record but who doesn't? A decent record will be inflated into "title chances" by media when the reality will be quite different.. they will be a 50-win team with no actual chance to hang with the cream of the crop (Giannis, Jokic, Booker/KD/Beal, and more).. It's clear they aren't as good as these guys but the media will keep hanging on until they get swept again (I'm the only one that predicted their sweep to Denver btw)

Let me know when the Lakers hv 60-win pace as they should with this talent - anything other than that is a strong sign of something amiss (Bron's age)

[ShawkFactory]

You're just going game by game and don't see the big picture

The Lakers should have decent record but who doesn't? A decent record will be inflated into "title chances" by media when the reality will be quite different.. they will be a 50-win team with no actual chance to hang with the cream of the crop (Giannis, Jokic, Booker/KD/Beal, and more).. It's clear they aren't as good as these guys but the media will keep hanging on until they get swept again (I'm the only one that predicted their sweep to Denver btw)

Let me know when the Lakers hv 60-win pace as they should with this talent - anything other than that is a strong sign of something amiss (Bron's age)
People are aware that Lebron is in his 21st year and is about to turn 39. This is a consideration when discussing their title hopes or 60 win odds.

What exactly are you arguing? Nobody is approaching this (aside from maybe you) with the lens that Lebron is in his prime and that this is just who he's always been.

[Hey Yo]

If MJ played at age 39-40 in his 19th consecutive season without quitting 2x, then you could compare the 2.

21-21 >>>>>>>> 15-19

[Full Court]

People are aware that Lebron is in his 21st year and is about to turn 39. This is a consideration when discussing their title hopes or 60 win odds.

What exactly are you arguing? Nobody is approaching this (aside from maybe you) with the lens that Lebron is in his prime and that this is just who he's always been.

Well, one of the Lakers' problems that I've observed is that last year Darvin Ham was giving Lebron minutes like he was in his prime. The guy has lost a ton of stamina. He can still score effectively most games, but really only for 1 - 2 quarters. Why they don't have him playing 20ish minutes a game and use him as a purely offensive weapon is beyond me. But hey, anything that drags the Lakers down is fine with me.

[Andrei89]

OP is confirmed mentally ill

[3ba11]

People are aware that Lebron is in his 21st year and is about to turn 39. This is a consideration when discussing their title hopes or 60 win odds.

What exactly are you arguing? Nobody is approaching this (aside from maybe you) with the lens that Lebron is in his prime and that this is just who he's always been.


Thread title shows what I'm arguing.... Specifically, am I too early in celebrating (see the OP gif)??... Are the Lakers already dead in the water??.. or do they still have a chance at the actual TITLE (not another defeat in WCF or Finals or earlier)

I think they're dead in the water because Bron is too old - he's been reduced to Shaq at the FT line, while also being an absolute turnover machine in the clutch.. How can a team win when their primary ball-handler is basically unavailable in the clutch (Shaq at the line and Westbrook with the ball)??..

This is Wizards' Lebron but no one will admit it yet or SEES it yet - I do and I'm probably a few months ahead of the curve from everyone else seeing what is already obvious.

People just don't realize how close the play of current Lebron and Wizards Jordan actually is - 25 ppg is nothing in today's NBA and 38-year Jordan would easily exceed that just like he did before his injury at 39 years old.. Only then did his ppg drop off to 22.9 (in a league that allowed 15 less ppg anyway).

Of course AD isn't that good and never was - he's a rich man's Pippen but that's STILL below the cream (Jokic, Giannis, KD, Curry).. (it's another indictment on pippen ultimately).. The Lakers got the bubble ring because they were the only team that pulled off a historic coup to get AD and therefore the only team invested.. No one else gave a shit and players could literally "opt out".. It was a fake ring that was won by the team that was allowed to pull off a historic coup - it was a Disney ring set up for the Lakers.

[NBAGOAT]

I can confidently predict no team is going have a super dominant regular season this year. Not even nuggets or Celtics. Too many good teams at the top and injuries and coasting also affect win total. decent chance no team hits even 55 wins this year.

Op can absolutely celebrate and I don’t like the lakers chances either. 2 teams in the west with great continuity and systems and a mvp star in Denver and gs and 2 teams with legit big 3s in phx and clips is hard to beat. in the East you got the Celtics with 4 all stars and the best top 6 in the league and the bucks with the best duo on paper too. Just don’t forget pelinka is an underrated gm and they have plenty of mid tier salaries to combine to trade for someone at the deadline

[3ba11]

I can confidently predict no team is going have a super dominant regular season this year. Not even nuggets or Celtics. Too many good teams at the top and injuries and coasting also affect win total. decent chance no team hits even 55 wins this year.

Op can absolutely celebrate and I don’t like the lakers chances either. 2 teams in the west with great continuity and systems and a mvp star in Denver and gs and 2 teams with legit big 3s in phx and clips is hard to beat. in the East you got the Celtics with 4 all stars and the best top 6 in the league and the bucks with the best duo on paper too.





Exactly, how is AD and Lebron f'ing with this?... Street Clothes and WestShaq??






Just don’t forget pelinka is an underrated gm and they have plenty of mid tier salaries to combine to trade for someone at the deadline


You mean maybe the league will give Lebron a brand new roster this year like they did last year..

Apparently, 2 decades hasn't taught them that it's impossible to build a perennial favorite or sure thing around Lebron, or a team that can be a winner on the championship level.

[ShawkFactory]

Thread title shows what I'm arguing.... Specifically, am I too early in celebrating (see the OP gif)??... Are the Lakers already dead in the water??.. or do they still have a chance at the actual TITLE (not another defeat in WCF or Finals or earlier)

I think they're dead in the water because Bron is too old - he's been reduced to Shaq at the FT line, while also being an absolute turnover machine in the clutch.. How can a team win when their primary ball-handler is basically unavailable in the clutch (Shaq at the line and Westbrook with the ball)??..

This is Wizards' Lebron but no one will admit it yet or SEES it yet - I do and I'm probably a few months ahead of the curve from everyone else seeing what is already obvious.

People just don't realize how close the play of current Lebron and Wizards Jordan actually is - 25 ppg is nothing in today's NBA and 38-year Jordan would easily exceed that just like he did before his injury at 39 years old.. Only then did his ppg drop off to 22.9 (in a league that allowed 15 less ppg anyway).

Of course AD isn't that good and never was - he's a rich man's Pippen but that's STILL below the cream (Jokic, Giannis, KD, Curry).. (it's another indictment on pippen ultimately).. The Lakers got the bubble ring because they were the only team that pulled off a historic coup to get AD and therefore the only team invested.. No one else gave a shit and players could literally "opt out".. It was a fake ring that was won by the team that was allowed to pull off a historic coup - it was a Disney ring set up for the Lakers.

I think most people agree. Because of lebrons age and AD being unreliable and the supporting cast being overrated.

[Patrick Chewing]

They're without Jared Vanderbilt who's out with injury.

And who is this exactly??

[red1]

You're just going game by game and don't see the big picture

The Lakers should have decent record but who doesn't? A decent record will be inflated into "title chances" by media when the reality will be quite different.. they will be a 50-win team with no actual chance to hang with the cream of the crop (Giannis, Jokic, Booker/KD/Beal, and more).. It's clear they aren't as good as these guys but the media will keep hanging on until they get swept again (I'm the only one that predicted their sweep to Denver btw)

Let me know when the Lakers hv 60-win pace as they should with this talent - anything other than that is a strong sign of something amiss (Bron's age)

you're a shameless homo



flipflopping bitch for years



no one cares about your opinions. you've been proven wrong 100x over.


I appreciate the fact that you start discussions and thats it

[red1]

Ive got the nuggets as the best team in the league of course


then Id put the bucks and maybe celtics


after that there a lot of teams that can contend including the lakers warriors clippers suns




thats not a bad place to be

[Full Court]

Ive got the nuggets as the best team in the league of course


then Id put the bucks and maybe celtics


after that there a lot of teams that can contend including the lakers warriors clippers suns




thats not a bad place to be

If the Suns and Clips can stay healthy, they'll make the West interesting for sure.

[imdaman99]

Yeah it's too early. They don't match up well against the Nuggets, they can have the Warriors knock them off and then they take the Warriors lunch. Dunno about the Suns either.

[3ba11]

Going all out with multiple OT's in games 3 and 4 against non-elite teams

At this pace, they will collapse by all-star break

[red1]

Going all out with multiple OT's in games 3 and 4 against non-elite teams

At this pace, they will collapse by all-star break

4 finals MVPs


you're going to be sick when austin reaves gets his shit together and starts carrying this team :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Going all out with multiple OT's in games 3 and 4 against non-elite teams

At this pace, they will collapse by all-star break
Boiling 39 year old LeBron owned Kawhi.

[3ba11]

Boiling 39 year old LeBron owned Kawhi.


Low bar.. Kawhi is washed

Let me know when Lebron has 40 or 50 like 38-year MJ

[3ba11]

4 finals MVPs


you're going to be sick when austin reaves gets his shit together and starts carrying this team :oldlol:



Imagine going 6/6 with someone that takes over less than Reaves and is a worse scorer than Reaves

It would require a 1st option that completely takes over games like we never seen before or since

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Going all out with multiple OT's in games 3 and 4 against non-elite teams

At this pace, they will collapse by all-star break

Lol 39 years old and Bron still makes this guy cry

[dankok8]

Low bar.. Kawhi is washed

Let me know when Lebron has 40 or 50 like 38-year MJ

You really think Lebron won't have a single 40-point game this season? You really wanna die on that hill...

[3ba11]

Lol 39 years old and Bron still makes this guy cry


He isn't 39 yet and is playing worse than MJ at the same stage

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He isn't 39 yet and is playing worse than MJ at the same stage

Oh...ok. 38 going on 39 and in his 21st season.

You better start to enjoy what you're seeing. Because when Lebron's gone, your life wont have any more meaning :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Oh...ok. 38 going on 39 and in his 21st season.

You better start to enjoy what you're seeing. Because when Lebron's gone, your life wont have any more meaning :lol
He can’t even enjoy what he’s seeing, he’s been waiting for LeBron to fall off for like a decade and he’s still having games like these :lol

[NBAGOAT]

Exactly, how is AD and Lebron f'ing with this?... Street Clothes and WestShaq??







You mean maybe the league will give Lebron a brand new roster this year like they did last year..

Apparently, 2 decades hasn't taught them that it's impossible to build a perennial favorite or sure thing around Lebron, or a team that can be a winner on the championship level.

The league had nothing to do with that please stop pushing this absurd conspiracy theory. If the league really wanted to help lebron they would’ve given him Kyrie and even then why should lebron/ad/Kyrie be clear favorites over the teams I listed. Suns and clippers have comparable big 3s now and aren’t even considered top 3 teams in the league.

Jazz were thrilled to get a 1st rd pick for the guys they traded away, Minnesota desperately wanted to get rid of dlo too. Ofc lebron can lead a team to a title, he has 4 titles you’re being more ridiculous than usual.

[red1]

Imagine going 6/6 with someone that takes over less than Reaves and is a worse scorer than Reaves

It would require a 1st option that completely takes over games like we never seen before or since

lebron would go 9/10 if he was playing stockton and malone in the finals


no one cares about that cotton candy competition

[red1]

jordan played on the 70 win team (bulls won 55 games without baldan)


meanwhile lebron has the only finals MVP in nba history over a 70-win team :lebronamazed:

[3ba11]

Lakers outside the top 20 in offense after tonight

lol

how can that possibly happen?

ONLY bron-ball

worst-ever team ceiling (Finals record, low 60-win frequency and rare favorite status given the hand-picked talent)

[eliteballer]

LeRoid and AD are gonna have to play a ton of minutes almost every night for them to be competitive.

[ImKobe]

There's no way they have "0" chance with AD and Lebron. If those two are healthy they can get far in the POs as you saw last year.

[Xiao Yao You]

There's no way they have "0" chance with AD and Lebron. If those two are healthy they can get far in the POs as you saw last year.

huge if.

[NBAGOAT]

There's no way they have "0" chance with AD and Lebron. If those two are healthy they can get far in the POs as you saw last year.

wcf sure but they had no chance vs denver last year so you could argue no chance to win a title. I think they do need a move, some teams have a big 3 while lakers 3rd best player is russell. Add on neither AD or Bron are top 5 mvp caliber guys. GS may only have one star but their starting lineup doesnt have holes like lakers do at sf, their bench is better and steph is one of the best players in the world

[Full Court]

There's no way they have "0" chance with AD and Lebron. If those two are healthy they can get far in the POs as you saw last year.

What you mean is if AD is healthy they can get far in the playoffs.

[Xiao Yao You]

wcf sure but they had no chance vs denver last year so you could argue no chance to win a title. I think they do need a move, some teams have a big 3 while lakers 3rd best player is russell. Add on neither AD or Bron are top 5 mvp caliber guys. GS may only have one star but their starting lineup doesnt have holes like lakers do at sf, their bench is better and steph is one of the best players in the world

cancer isn't their 3rd best player

[Axe]

jordan played on the 70 win team (bulls won 55 games without baldan)


meanwhile lebron has the only finals MVP in nba history over a 70-win team :lebronamazed:
https://media.tenor.com/ZQ6SDX4dBEUAAAAC/coppercab.gif

[ImKobe]

What you mean is if AD is healthy they can get far in the playoffs.

Of course. AD is by far the best player on the squad. That goes without saying.

[ShawkFactory]

Of course. AD is by far the best player on the squad. That goes without saying.

Do you think “by far” is appropriate? When he’s playing well he’s certainly the most impactful, particularly on defense. But he’s also wildly inconsistent and hasn’t shown that he can be relied upon at all.

[ImKobe]

Do you think “by far” is appropriate? When he’s playing well he’s certainly the most impactful, particularly on defense. But he’s also wildly inconsistent and hasn’t shown that he can be relied upon at all.

When he's playing well? The defense is a given. He can have 15 points and be the most impactful player on the team by a decent margin.

[SATAN]

He hasn't been the most impactful. Anyone with eyeballs sees it. And yes he is a good defender.

Lakers went down 31 points in total or something without LeBron on the court. What was AD doing?

[Axe]

When he's playing well? The defense is a given. He can have 15 points and be the most impactful player on the team by a decent margin.
Yet there's no guarantee he could play for up to at least 60 games in a full 82-game season. :confusedshrug:

[Full Court]

Do you think “by far” is appropriate? When he’s playing well he’s certainly the most impactful, particularly on defense. But he’s also wildly inconsistent and hasn’t shown that he can be relied upon at all.

He's shown that the Lakers can't even make it out of the lottery without him.

[Full Court]

He hasn't been the most impactful. Anyone with eyeballs sees it. And yes he is a good defender.

Lakers went down 31 points in total or something without LeBron on the court. What was AD doing?

Yet more proof that this clown knows nothing at all about basketball. No suprise there though.

[ShawkFactory]

When he's playing well? The defense is a given. He can have 15 points and be the most impactful player on the team by a decent margin.

Correct. When he’s playing well.

He can be clunky on offense and obviously has no ability to set anything up. When he’s not having a good game he isn’t really that much of a positive on that end. At least not to the level where a “by far” is warranted.

[RRR3]

If AD was better than LeBron, you'd think LeBron wouldn't destroy him in on/off every single year.

[Axe]

Davis is supposed to be the 'captain' of the team since he's younger than the mighty king kong. Yet when counting the totals, the latter has played in more games the last five seasons despite being 9 years older than him. That's why anthony 'abdul jabbar' davis of 2020 will never be league mvp. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

If AD was better than LeBron, you'd think LeBron wouldn't destroy him in on/off every single year.

You have to be seriously short on brain power to think Lebron is better than AD.

"Bu-bu-b-but ON/OFF!!!!!"

Yep, I guess that's the only stat that means anything. Just ignore every other one.

:biggums:

[Xiao Yao You]

Davis is supposed to be the 'captain' of the team since he's younger than the mighty king kong. Yet when counting the totals, the latter has played in more games the last five seasons despite being 9 years older than him. That's why anthony 'abdul jabbar' davis of 2020 will never be league mvp. :oldlol:

playing more games than Davis is now an achievement :roll:

[3ba11]

If AD was better than LeBron, you'd think LeBron wouldn't destroy him in on/off every single year.


Lebron's teams are supposed to be a lot better specifically because lebron-ball is supposed to get more impact from teammates.. So AD's low plus-minus is a reflection of Lebron-ball not getting greater impact from teammates, thereby being perennial underdogs regardless of cast.. Remember that Lebron was underdog to fossil Duncan in 2014 or baby Westbrick in 2012.

[NBAGOAT]

You have to be seriously short on brain power to think Lebron is better than AD.

"Bu-bu-b-but ON/OFF!!!!!"

Yep, I guess that's the only stat that means anything. Just ignore every other one.

:biggums:

last year lebron was higher in epm too. AD just isnt a top 20 player like he was in 2020. That's fine but does mean he's not MVP lvl or easily better than bron

[RRR3]

last year lebron was higher in epm too.
He doesn’t know what that is.

[Full Court]

He doesn’t know what that is.

Why don't you educate everyone.

Oh, that's right. You don't even know what an advanced stat is. :roll:

Nice try.

[3ba11]

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