View Full Version : TRADE: James Harden to the Clippers
Street Hunger
10-31-2023, 02:23 AM
The Sixers are trading James Harden to the Clippers, per Woj!
Oh amazeballs. Loney may come out anytime now.
SATAN
10-31-2023, 02:24 AM
The Philadelphia 76ers are trading James Harden to the Los Angeles Clippers, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The move ends a saga that began in June, when Harden was an impending free agent. Once it became clear that the Houston Rockets preferred Fred VanVleet with their maximum cap space, Harden had nowhere to go and was forced to opt into the final year of his deal with the understanding that 76ers general manager Daryl Morey would eventually trade him.
That trade came slower than Harden had wanted, and in August, Harden responded by saying at a camp in China that "Daryl Morey is a liar and I will never be a part of an organization that he's a part of." Harden ultimately reported to 76ers camp, but now, he gets the trade he seeks, and, in the process, positions himself for the contract Philadelphia was not ready to give him.
Rather than extending Harden for the long haul, Philadelphia is planning to generate max cap space in the summer of 2024. To that end, they also have not extended young star Tyrese Maxey, though they will be able to retain him next offseason as a restricted free agent without significantly affecting their cap space. The Clippers, on the other hand, are so far above the salary cap that they almost have to retain Harden beyond the season using his Bird Rights. They would have no means of replacing his salary slot if he were to leave for nothing, and the new CBA makes it significantly harder to sign-and-trade him elsewhere.
Of course, the Clippers wouldn't be making this trade if they didn't expect to keep Harden. Ever since they landed Kawhi Leonard and Paul George in the 2019 offseason, they've sought a traditional point guard to make their lives easier on offense. They've tried just about every low-end option from Reggie Jackson to Rajon Rondo to Russell Westbrook, but nobody has worked. Harden, who led the NBA in assists last season, is immediately the best playmaker the Leonard-George duo has ever had, and with the Clippers set to open a new arena in time for the 2024-25 season, they could now potentially bring this star trio into their new building.
But the 2024-25 season is a year away. The goal is to win the championship right now. With Harden, the Clippers are right back in the mix for the Western Conference crown. The 76ers, meanwhile, will now attempt to regroup and reload before reigning MVP Joel Embiid starts to get antsy. Neither Harden nor Simmons were suitable championship co-stars for Embiid, and now, it's up to Morey to get it right on the third try.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-traded-from-76ers-to-clippers-per-report/
Does Kawit need a super team?
They should fire Lue now if they want a good chance at a title.
SATAN
10-31-2023, 02:30 AM
My thread got deleted and my comment was edited within the blink of an eye...Very interesting.........
coin24
10-31-2023, 02:32 AM
They really need a decent coach now..
insidehoops
10-31-2023, 02:37 AM
My thread got deleted and my comment was edited within the blink of an eye...Very interesting.........
I'm awake. Biggest NBA news in a month.
L.Kizzle
10-31-2023, 02:40 AM
I have a feeling someone is leaving ... PG or Leonard.
SATAN
10-31-2023, 02:41 AM
I'm awake. Biggest NBA news in a month.
:cheers:
I'm awake. Biggest NBA news in a month.
:roll:
eliteballer
10-31-2023, 02:57 AM
Oh Me Oh My.
fourkicks44
10-31-2023, 03:35 AM
Great news. I am super happy with this trade, Batum will be helpful and a good swap for Tucker. I'm excited to have Covington back home where he belongs.
The only sad news is Danny Green gets cut to open a roster spot. A great culture guy and locker room presesence.
Akeem34TheDream
10-31-2023, 03:45 AM
Nice. Sixers are contenders once again and Clippers will be interesting to watch.
Im Still Ballin
10-31-2023, 04:08 AM
Batum and Covington are nice rotation players.
NBAGOAT
10-31-2023, 04:13 AM
Wondering if Sixers will trade for a star pre deadline or wait for free agency when Tobias is off the books and they’ll have 2 max slots. Free agency class isn’t good however think headliner is siakam. Maxey looks like he could make the all star team this year so embiid and 2 all star perimeter scorers isn’t best team in league but has a decent chance.
As for clippers they had to do this imo. Not a super team with kawhis knees but technically they have 3 all-nba guys with better depth than all the other contenders
Im Still Ballin
10-31-2023, 04:22 AM
Western Conference is a bloodbath! DEN, PHX, LAL, GSW, and LAC can all win the West. Heck, even DAL and MIN could cause problems.
Real Men Wear Green
10-31-2023, 04:41 AM
Now they just need Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving. Perfection.
Phoenix
10-31-2023, 05:48 AM
Now they just need Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving. Perfection.
Lol exactly. Throw em all on one team and enjoy the free comedy show.
Real Men Wear Green
10-31-2023, 06:08 AM
Am I the only one that would rather have that 2028 Clipper pick? I feel sure it will be high lottery. Only problem is that Embiid may be wanting out shortly.
elementally morale
10-31-2023, 06:22 AM
Harden and Westbrook on the same team.... That's just.... it will be interesting. How many balls should we give the Clippers per play?
Im Still Ballin
10-31-2023, 06:30 AM
Harden and Westbrook on the same team.... That's just.... it will be interesting. How many balls should we give the Clippers per play?
Kind of creates a redundancy as you've suggested. Based on last year's performance, they're undoubtedly better off with the ball in Harden's hands. Something will have to give and I think it'll be Westbrook on the bench more often. He can run the offense when Harden is sitting.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 08:07 AM
Kind of creates a redundancy as you've suggested. Based on last year's performance, they're undoubtedly better off with the ball in Harden's hands. Something will have to give and I think it'll be Westbrook on the bench more often. He can run the offense when Harden is sitting.
Westbrook 6th man if they're smart
r0drig0lac
10-31-2023, 08:34 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/b8/c3/eeb8c3a09a7182330dd008221b131165.gif
Mask the Embiid
10-31-2023, 08:49 AM
The lowest iq’d backcourt of all time is back! Poor poor clippers fans. They will have to learn the hard way like us and the nets. Once a quitter, always a quitter
Wally450
10-31-2023, 09:11 AM
Insurance for Kawhi when he ultimately misses 60 games.
Manny98
10-31-2023, 09:25 AM
Clippers got worse and became unlikeable again:facepalm
No defense playoff choking bum
Charlie Sheen
10-31-2023, 09:25 AM
The most interesting part of this trade is both Harden and Morey are on their last chances but i think their massive egos are blinding them to that reality.
sdot_thadon
10-31-2023, 09:34 AM
Well one thing is certain, this will be fun to.watch either way.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 09:36 AM
Clippers got worse and became unlikeable again:facepalm
No defense playoff choking bum
less than a year after the Nets and Harden were unbeatable. Poor Manny! :roll:
sdot_thadon
10-31-2023, 09:44 AM
less than a year after the Nets and Harden were unbeatable. Poor Manny! :roll:
Man it's pretty effed up, the Nets went from the team with it all to the team with Ben Simmons in the space of a few months.
SouBeachTalents
10-31-2023, 09:56 AM
Man it's pretty effed up, the Nets went from the team with it all to the team with Ben Simmons in the space of a few months.
Well when you combine the 3 most volatile stars in the league on one team, it's bound not to end well.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 09:57 AM
Man it's pretty effed up, the Nets went from the team with it all to the team with Ben Simmons in the space of a few months.
and Manny will tell you the same about the current crew as he did about the best team ever assembled! :lol
Smook A.
10-31-2023, 09:58 AM
Well finally. Beard and Brodie reunite once again
Charlie Sheen
10-31-2023, 10:12 AM
Man it's pretty effed up, the Nets went from the team with it all to the team with Ben Simmons in the space of a few months.
Irving was right in the end... the Nets did not need a coach. Injury could not stop this team. It was a freaking toe that stopped them from taking Nash to a title.
Jasper
10-31-2023, 10:19 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38462211/nba-trade-grades-2023-24-breaking-most-impactful-deals
Harden now gets to fvck up Westbrock again..:cry:..:pimp::cry:
dazzer87
10-31-2023, 10:24 AM
Clippers won the trade….:pimp:
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 10:25 AM
Clippers won the trade….:pimp:
check back when Harden asks out in a few months
dazzer87
10-31-2023, 10:29 AM
check back when Harden asks out in a few months
Nah hes home and why would he wants to leave L.A?
Session
10-31-2023, 10:30 AM
James Harden in LA... I think he's going to do everything except play basketball and when he gets tired, he'll ask for a trade :wtf:
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 10:40 AM
Nah hes home and why would he wants to leave L.A?
cuz LA sucks? Kawhi and George will be hurt? Westbrook will be playing his usual brainless basketball? Because he's James Harden?
Charlie Sheen
10-31-2023, 10:49 AM
This decides it. I am ready to start talking if's and clippers again :lol
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 10:58 AM
Bobby Marks: Here the finances on the trade: LA Clippers 💰Luxury tax bill increases from $99.3M to $128.4M (+$29.1) (https://*********.com/social/) Philadelphia 💰Luxury tax bill decreases from $19.8M to $6.4M (-$13.4) The 76ers are now $4.8M above the luxury tax.
– via Twitter BobbyMarks42 (https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42)
big win for Sixers
Jasper
10-31-2023, 11:01 AM
Clippers won the trade….:pimp:
3 + draft picks ,,, I think 6er's win, for old harden who fails in playoff games.
jayfan
10-31-2023, 11:19 AM
Lol. What a shitshow.
:roll:
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bdonovan
10-31-2023, 11:58 AM
Kind of a big deal. You could argue the Clippers are a retirement home for over-the-hill players but this may convince Westbrook to stop shooting altogether as there's certainly no need for that now. All Westbrook should do is play defense and occasionally drive recklessly to the hoop and kick the ball out.
This puts Clippers in the 2nd tier of top teams after the 1st tier (Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks) alongside Suns and Warriors.
dazzer87
10-31-2023, 12:15 PM
cuz LA sucks? Kawhi and George will be hurt? Westbrook will be playing his usual brainless basketball? Because he's James Harden?
If KL and George could stay healthy in the playoff they could come out of the West. This owner wants to win now who cares about draft picks…. 2nd best team in the West behind Den.
999Guy
10-31-2023, 12:20 PM
Losing Covington is terrible. As well as keeping Gordon, Hyland, and Westbrook.
Dumb roster building. Not beating GS or Denver.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 12:21 PM
If KL and George could stay healthy in the playoff they could come out of the West. This owner wants to win now who cares about draft picks…. 2nd best team in the West behind Den.
Staying healthy is a huge if especially with Kawhi. Team is the key word. Harden and team don't really go together.
Kblaze8855
10-31-2023, 12:24 PM
Meh.
I want a series with the warriors and clippers after this trade
two perimeter-heavy teams
I think the warriors would wax that ass
HylianNightmare
10-31-2023, 12:45 PM
Sixes get great pieces so they have allot of really good role players and Joel
LoneyROY7
10-31-2023, 12:46 PM
Being a lifelong Clippers fan has finally paid off.
:banana:
Being a lifelong Clippers fan has finally paid off.
:banana:
:oldlol:
jayfan
10-31-2023, 01:19 PM
If KL and George could stay healthy in the playoff they could come out of the West. This owner wants to win now who cares about draft picks…. 2nd best team in the West behind Den.
Not even a 100% healthy Kawhi could overcome the total farce of having PG, Harden & Westbrook as teammates.
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warriorfan
10-31-2023, 01:29 PM
Being a lifelong Clippers fan has finally paid off.
:banana:
we need Tg to come back
Proctor
10-31-2023, 01:32 PM
we need Tg to come back
Loney's too busy posting on SATAN to bother with TG right now.
As for the trade...yuck. Sixers have some nice roleplayers now though losing Tucker sucks.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 01:36 PM
Not even a 100% healthy Kawhi could overcome the total farce of having PG, Harden & Westbrook as teammates.
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hard to imagine that working out under any scenario
LoneyROY7
10-31-2023, 02:16 PM
we need Tg to come back
I'll pm you the pw chief. :pimp:
warriorfan
10-31-2023, 02:21 PM
I'll pm you the pw chief. :pimp:
Aight. Until then be a cool og. Bring it back! :pimp:
LoneyROY7
10-31-2023, 02:24 PM
Where's my guy imdaman at btw? The boys are back together! :oldlol:
FultzNationRISE
10-31-2023, 02:55 PM
Losing Covington is terrible. As well as keeping Gordon, Hyland, and Westbrook.
Dumb roster building. Not beating GS or Denver.
Eric Gordon plays for the Suns now, guy.
kawhileonard2
10-31-2023, 03:18 PM
The Sixers are trading James Harden to the Clippers, per Woj!
King James
coin24
10-31-2023, 03:33 PM
They should have taken the Mann deal, now they lose Covington and Batum? Not stars but good pieces that play D.
Westbrook as 6th man then? This probably won’t end well…
Proctor
10-31-2023, 04:28 PM
They should have taken the Mann deal, now they lose Covington and Batum? Not stars but good pieces that play D.
Westbrook as 6th man then? This probably won’t end well…
Meh, Batum is supposedly retiring after this year and for whatever reason Covingston seemed to be in the permanent doghouse and couldn't ever see the floor...so with that in mind the Clippers probably didn't lose much. I still wouldn't trade even players in those circumstances for Retarden though.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 04:35 PM
What Mann deal? Clippers didn't want to give him up
fourkicks44
10-31-2023, 04:42 PM
What Mann deal? Clippers didn't want to give him up
And they didn't.
So next year when it all has gone to shit they have his 29 year old ass as a franchise player to rebuild around.
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 04:49 PM
And they didn't.
So next year when it all has gone to shit they have his 29 year old ass as a franchise player to rebuild around.
and the Sixers with their unprotected pick :lol
Manny98
10-31-2023, 05:15 PM
Philly clearly won this trade in my eyes
They got rid of the cancer for some solid 3+D role players to play off Maxey and Embiid + some future picks
Clippers had a good thing going with Kawhi,Russ,PG all clicking together very well
Why add the most ball dominant player of this generation who's past his prime and makes them worse defensively?
Manny98
10-31-2023, 05:17 PM
Being a lifelong Clippers fan has finally paid off.
:banana:
This dude has no shame whatsoever :lol
Xiao Yao You
10-31-2023, 06:54 PM
Philly clearly won this trade in my eyes
They got rid of the cancer for some solid 3+D role players to play off Maxey and Embiid + some future picks
Clippers had a good thing going with Kawhi,Russ,PG all clicking together very well
Why add the most ball dominant player of this generation who's past his prime and makes them worse defensively?
same reason you thought it was a great idea when the Nets acquired him :roll:
Manny98
10-31-2023, 08:08 PM
same reason you thought it was a great idea when the Nets acquired him :roll:
I never wanted him on the Nets
Xiao Yao You
11-02-2023, 07:05 PM
Mirjam Swanson: James Harden: “I’m not a system player, I’m a system.” (https://*********.com/social/)
– via Twitter MirjamSwanson (https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson)
this should go well :lol
Proctor
05-04-2024, 12:28 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btP089a98Xr6AV2/giphy.gif
coin24
05-04-2024, 04:37 AM
:lol:lol
Annnd it didn’t end well:oldlol:
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