Why are so many Americans ripping down those Kidnapped Israeli Hostages Posters??

[Patrick Chewing]

Looking for a well thought out objective answer here if there is one.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQMHMuHmUk

[JohnnySic]

Hissy fit. No different that when they were tearing down statues.

[diamenz]

people who claim to be pro-palestine don't help their argument or credibility by doing things like this. they're essentially taking their anger out on innocent civilians instead of the israeli government, where their apparent beef lies. they're only dirtying up their image and further pushing away the people that they're trying to convince.

[ShawkFactory]

The answer is that there are true knuckleheads out there.

The ball then goes into your court. You can choose to attempt to listen to the arguments of the vast majority of people who speak on the subject with civility and reason, or you can choose to focus on isolated instances like this (probably done by one or two individuals at most) shown to you by the media attempting to appeal to your emotions.

[j3lademaster]

Hissy fit. No different that when they were tearing down statues.Oh yeah, this is the exact same as tearing down confederate statues.

[Lakers Legend#32]

A relative handful of people are doing this so Poopsie clutches his pearls and claims it's "many" Americans.

Drama Queen Fats.

[Nanners]

What exactly is the purpose of posting israeli hostage posters in the US. The US is 5k+ miles from Israel, and these type of posters are typically posted when someone loses a cat, not when someone goes missing on the other side of the planet.

Imagine if americans started putting up posters like this for every missing or kidnapped Palestinian, every phone pole in every city would be completely coated with posters.

[highwhey]

What exactly is the purpose of posting israeli hostage posters in the US. The US is 5k+ miles from Israel, and these type of posters are typically posted when someone loses a cat, not when someone goes missing on the other side of the planet.

Imagine if americans started putting up posters like this for every missing or kidnapped Palestinian, every phone pole in every city would be completely coated with posters.

and then OP would be making a thread complaining about the posters and why we have them up in the first place. this fat lard just loves to b1tch.

[Jasper]

and then OP would be making a thread complaining about the posters and why we have them up in the first place. this fat lard just loves to b1tch.

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[Media Moderator]

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[BurningHammer]

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[Media Moderator]

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[Patrick Chewing]

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That Brown bastard was scared of me.

[SaltyMeatballs]

What exactly is the purpose of posting israeli hostage posters in the US. The US is 5k+ miles from Israel, and these type of posters are typically posted when someone loses a cat, not when someone goes missing on the other side of the planet.

Imagine if americans started putting up posters like this for every missing or kidnapped Palestinian, every phone pole in every city would be completely coated with posters.

Right on point

[Nanners]

What exactly is the purpose of posting israeli hostage posters in the US. The US is 5k+ miles from Israel, and these type of posters are typically posted when someone loses a cat, not when someone goes missing on the other side of the planet.

Imagine if americans started putting up posters like this for every missing or kidnapped Palestinian, every phone pole in every city would be completely coated with posters.

Since OP and the other pro-apartheid users on this site could not be bothered to attempt to answer this simple question, I will state the obvious - these posters are being posted for one reason, to manipulate the way that americans think/feel... in other words, they are foreign propaganda.

So to answer the OP question, the reason so many americans are ripping down these posters is because lots of americans get pissed off when they see foreign propaganda stapled on their local street pole. Its strange that a supposed lover of america like patrick chewing would be blind the fact that other america lovers dont appreciate seeing foreign propaganda stapled all over their american neighborhoods.

[Baller234]

Since OP and the other pro-apartheid users on this site could not be bothered to attempt to answer this simple question, I will state the obvious - these posters are being posted for one reason, to manipulate the way that americans think/feel... in other words, they are foreign propaganda.

So to answer the OP question, the reason so many americans are ripping down these posters is because lots of americans get pissed off when they see foreign propaganda stapled on their local street pole. Its strange that a supposed lover of america like patrick chewing would be blind the fact that other america lovers dont appreciate seeing foreign propaganda stapled all over their american neighborhoods.

i think it's even more weird that "america lovers" are taking the side of a country that is an enemy over a country that is an ally.

you might have had a point if the people on the pro-palestine side had any interest in a peaceful solution, but it's pretty clear that when they say "free palestine" they are all but subtly implying that israel should cease to exist.

[Nanners]

i think it's even more weird that "america lovers" are taking the side of a country that is an enemy over a country that is an ally.

How dare you suggest that palestine is an actual country, you should keep your antisemetic worldview in the dumpster where it belongs


you might have had a point if the people on the pro-palestine side had any interest in a peaceful solution, but it's pretty clear that when they say "free palestine" they are all but subtly implying that israel should cease to exist.

Great point... when you really look at it, the only reason israelis have been murdering palestinians and ethnically cleansing them from their lands for the past ~75 years is because the people on the pro-palestine side have never had any interest in a peaceful solution. When they say that they should be allowed to exist freely, aka "free palestine", they are subtly implying that the foreign force that has been oppressing them by force for the past ~75 years should cease to exist.

[Baller234]

How dare you suggest that palestine is an actual country, you should keep your antisemetic worldview in the dumpster where it belongs



Great point... when you really look at it, the only reason israelis have been murdering palestinians and ethnically cleansing them from their lands for the past ~75 years is because the people on the pro-palestine side have never had any interest in a peaceful solution. When they say that they should be allowed to exist freely, aka "free palestine", they are subtly implying that the foreign force that has been oppressing them by force for the past ~75 years should cease to exist.

what do you think is being implied from "the river to the sea"?

[Nanners]

what do you think is being implied from "the river to the sea"?

I have never heard of that phrase before right now, but according to google it means palestine will control territory from the jordan river to the med sea?

What do you think is being implied when people say that israel is an apartheid state? Also do you know what it means to "imply" something?

[Baller234]

I have never heard of that phrase before right now, but according to google it means palestine will control territory from the jordan river to the med sea?

What do you think is being implied when people say that israel is an apartheid state? Also do you know what it means to "imply" something?

you've never heard that phrase before? it's literally the battle cry at every protest and every rally. that you've never heard it before is pretty weird considering you're so opinionated.

"from the river to the sea" refers to the entire region between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea, which includes the state of israel. it's a pretty clear indication that they have no desire for jews to hold any territory in the region whatsoever, and that is the goal.

they do not want to make peace with the jews. they want them gone.

if this is not the case, then please explain why this chant is repeated at every rally.

[Nanners]

they do not want to make peace with the jews. they want them gone.

if this is not the case, then please explain why this chant is repeated at every rally.

The onus to seek peace does not rest upon people who have been living in an open air prison for decades and have zero citizenship rights despite being the rightful and ancient residents of the lands that are now claimed by a country that laughably purports themselves to be the only democracy in the middle east.

[Patrick Chewing]

I have never heard of that phrase before right now, but according to google it means palestine will control territory from the jordan river to the med sea?

What do you think is being implied when people say that israel is an apartheid state? Also do you know what it means to "imply" something?

:roll:

[Baller234]

The onus to seek peace does not rest upon people who have been living in an open air prison for decades and have zero citizenship rights despite being the rightful and ancient residents of the lands that are now claimed by a country that laughably purports themselves to be the only democracy in the middle east.

oh so then israel should just accept that they are the bad guys and leave the region entirely, conceding defeat to a group of people who don't wish them to exist.

what a tremendous net gain for the west (and the world) that would be.

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[Baller234]

:roll:

hey at least we're making progress. we're past the "well i'm only interested in a peaceful solution" phase.

they're now openly acknowledging that their side has no interest in peace.

[rmt]

It turns out that a Saudi journalist asked the spokesman for Hamas that very question. His response was quite telling in terms of Hamas' concerns about Palestinian lives.

KHALED MESHAAL, HEAD OF HAMAS POLITICAL BUREAU ABROAD (through translator): Dear sister, nations are not easily liberated. The Russians sacrificed 30 million people in World War II in order to liberate it from Hitler's attack. The Vietnamese sacrificed 3.5 million people until they defeated the Americans. Afghanistan sacrificed millions of martyrs to defeat USSR and then the U.S. The Algerian people sacrificed 6 million martyrs over 130 years. The Palestinian people are just like any other nation. No nation is liberated without sacrifices.

TAPPER: No nation is liberated without sacrifices. Not exactly an expression of regret for innocent Palestinian deaths. A journalist from Russia today, a Russian state media outlet, asked Mousa Abu Marzouk from the Hamas political bureau quote, you have built 500 kilometers of tunnels in Gaza. Why haven't you built bomb shelters where Palestinian civilians can hide during bombardment? And here's how Hamas responded.

MOUSA ABU MARZOUK, HAMAS POLITICAL BUREAU (through translator): We have built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being targeted and killed. These tunnels are meant to protect us from the airplanes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels. Everybody knows that 75 percent of the people in the Gaza Strip are refugees, and it is the responsibility of the United Nations to protect them.

TAPPER: The Biden administration would argue that a pause, allowing innocent Palestinians to flee and allowing humanitarian supplies to get into Gaza, that's one thing. But that stopping the Israeli campaign against Hamas, which is what a ceasefire would be, stopping it would be another. Here's how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton put it at an event at the Baker Institute.

HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: People who are calling for a ceasefire now do not understand Hamas. That is not possible. It would be such a gift to Hamas because they would spend whatever time there was a ceasefire, in effect, rebuilding their armaments, you know, creating stronger positions to be able to fend off an eventual assault by the Israelis.

TAPPER: But don't take her word for it. Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas's political bureau, told Lebanese T.V. that the Al Aqsa flood, that's what Hamas called the October 7th attack.

GHAZI HAMAD, HAMAS POLITICAL BUREAU (through translator): This is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price?

TAPPER: So Hamas, which is the government of Gaza, based on their own words, A, they think the loss of Palestinian civilian lives is just the cost of liberation. B, they think that even though they're the government of Gaza, it's not their responsibility to protect Palestinian civilians. The tunnels are for themselves, for fighting, not for civilians. And C, they're determined to continue attacking Israel the same way they did on October 7th, over and over and over, based on what they say. So, for these reasons, Israel says, we can't have a ceasefire.

Listen to what they say. So they're pushing forward with their ground incursion into Gaza. From the point of view of Israel, they hear all the calls for a ceasefire. What they do not hear is anyone in the international community proposing anyway for them to get back their 240 hostages that Hamas kidnapped. They don't hear anyone proposing anyway for Hamas to be removed from the leadership of Gaza.

Israel sees the parades and the rallies for the ceasefire, and they see no parades and no rallies for the return of the hostages or the removal of Hamas.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/11/07/cnns_jake_tapper_hamas_feels_no_responsibility_to_ protect_their_own_civilians_in_gaza.html

[Nanners]

oh so then israel should just accept that they are the bad guys and leave the region entirely, conceding defeat to a group of people who don't wish them to exist.

what a tremendous net gain for the west (and the world) that would be.

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IMO israel doesnt have to go anywhere as long as they stop abusing palestinians and offer them equal citizenship rights... is it really too much to ask that the original residents of the land israel has been attempting to ethnically cleanse get treated like they are equal citizens with their foreign invaders?

[Baller234]

IMO israel doesnt have to go anywhere as long as they stop abusing palestinians and offer them equal citizenship rights... is it really too much to ask that the original residents of the land israel has been attempting to ethnically cleanse are treated like they are equal citizens with their foreign invaders?

then what is being implied by "from the river to the sea, palestine will be free"?

if they are open to being peaceful neighbors with the jews, what is the intent behind this chant?

[Nanners]

then what is being implied by "from the river to the sea, palestine will be free"?

if they are open to being peaceful neighbors with the jews, what is the intent behind this chant?

What is being implied when israel has spent the past ~70 years imprisoning palestinians for the crime of simply existing? What is being implied when 90% of Gaza residents were born in a concentration camp and will almost certainly die inside of one? What is being implied when the IDF supposedly forgets to watch the Gaza border (the most closely monitored border in the world) for one day and then murders 10k (and counting) Gaza civilians and blows up a Gaza hospitals in retailiation for their own supposed incompetence. And BTW how exactly does the same IDF that is supposedly a phenomenal millitary justify the incompetence that led the IDF to suddenly forgetting to monitoring one of the most highly contested borders on the planet, a border with billions of dollars worth of surveillance?

I know this wont make any sense to you starface, since you have never owned anything in your entire life... but if you really want to understand the palestine vs israel conflict you can start by attempting to understanding the simple fact that most people get really angry when something they own is taken from them by force.

[Baller234]

What is being implied when israel has spent the past ~70 years imprisoning palestinians for the crime of simply existing? What is being implied when 90% of Gaza residents were born in a concentration camp and will almost certainly die inside of one? What is being implied when the IDF supposedly forgets to watch the Gaza border (the most closely monitored border in the world) for one day and then murders 10k (and counting) Gaza civilians and blows up a Gaza hospitals in retailiation for their own supposed incompetence (thats assuming it was simple incompetence that led the IDF to suddenly stop monitoring a border with billions of dollars worth of surveillance...and not a more sinisiter motive).

I know this wont make any sense to you starface, since you have never owned anything in your entire life... but if you really want to understand the palestine vs israel conflict you can start by attempting to understanding the simple fact that most people get really angry when something they own is taken from them by force.

couldn't help but notice you swiftly dodged the question at hand. i wonder if there is a reason for that.

basically your argument boils down to israel are the bad guys, hence they should acknowledge they are the bad guys and leave the region. you keep saying "no that's not what i want..." but then when directly confronted with the fact that israel is NOT WELCOME in the region, you deflect and steer the conversation somewhere else.

there is no peaceful solution here. they do not want israel as their neighbors. either accept that or don't.

[Nanners]

couldn't help but notice you swiftly dodged the question at hand. i wonder if there is a reason for that.

basically your argument boils down to israel are the bad guys, hence they should acknowledge they are the bad guys and leave the region. you keep saying "no that's not what i want..." but then when directly confronted with the fact that israel is NOT WELCOME in the region, you deflect and steer the conversation somewhere else.

there is no peaceful solution here. they do not want israel as their neighbors. either accept that or don't.

Your argument boils down to "a group of protestors supposedly said a phrase that supposedly has this meaning, therefore they're bad"

The peaceful solution has been obvious from the start - treat the palestinians like equal citizens and allow them to participate in the politics of their country (a country that was stolen from them)... but israel would rather persecute and imprison the palestinians for the crime of existing on land that israelis intend to steal, while loudly proclaiming themselves as one of the worlds greatest multicultural democracies

[Patrick Chewing]

IMO israel doesnt have to go anywhere as long as they stop abusing palestinians and offer them equal citizenship rights... is it really too much to ask that the original residents of the land israel has been attempting to ethnically cleanse get treated like they are equal citizens with their foreign invaders?


I'm curious, where did the idea that Israel is trying to "ethnically cleanse" the Palestinians come from? All of you keep repeating that same line over and over and over again and I'm like, where the **** does that come from?? On one hand, we have Hamas and Palestinians that want to wipe Israel off the map, but somehow, it's Israel that's "ethnically cleansing" the Palestinians. Where are they doing this? How are they doing this? And, would you agree that Palestinians are trying to ethnically cleanse Jews then since they virtually chant for it every goddamn day??

[Patrick Chewing]

hey at least we're making progress. we're past the "well i'm only interested in a peaceful solution" phase.

they're now openly acknowledging that their side has no interest in peace.

Yup, I got that highweight loser to acknowledge he would be happy with the annihilation of Israel. My accusations of Anti-Semitism were spot on from day one when these haters started pointing the finger at Israel. They don't care about Palestinians. Not one bit. They know Muslims are crazy as ****. They just hate the Jews. I mean, they ****ing HATE them. And it's so evident.

[Baller234]

Your argument boils down to "a group of protestors supposedly said a phrase that supposedly has this meaning, therefore they're bad"

The peaceful solution has been obvious from the start - treat the palestinians like equal citizens and allow them to participate in the politics of their country (a country that was stolen from them)... but israel would rather persecute and imprison the palestinians for the crime of existing on land that israelis intend to steal, while loudly proclaiming themselves as one of the worlds greatest multicultural democracies

a group of protestors? lol it's every protestor. it's every rally. rashida tlaib is being censured as we speak for chanting the phrase. we are talking government officials here.

and your solution is laughable. you insist that palestinians should be treated as equals while totally ignoring the fact that they have no interest in treating israel the same. there is no kumbaya solution where jews are allowed to live peacefully side by side with them.

they want israel gone. they don't want a jewish state in the region. you keep ignoring this fact, either by virtue of autism or by virtue of it being an inconvenient truth against your narrative.

[Nanners]

I'm curious, where did the idea that Israel is trying to "ethnically cleanse" the Palestinians come from? All of you keep repeating that same line over and over and over again and I'm like, where the **** does that come from?? On one hand, we have Hamas and Palestinians that want to wipe Israel off the map, but somehow, it's Israel that's "ethnically cleansing" the Palestinians. Where are they doing this? How are they doing this? And, would you agree that Palestinians are trying to ethnically cleanse Jews then since they virtually chant for it every goddamn day??

Its hard to imagine having such a poor understanding of history. Exactly how long do you think that zionist Israel has existed? I am going continue believing that you are being ironically stupid for comedic effect and are not actually this stupid/clueless.

Once again I cant figure out if you are being serious or sarcastic with your stupidity, but "ethnic cleansing" means attempting to remove an existing people and/or culture from a given area, aka - what Israel has been doing to palestine since 1947... the only way for palestine to do anything remotely resembling an "ethnic cleansing" toward jews would be going from door to door in NY, LA and FL and stealing all the properties owned by jews (which is most of them in these areas).

[Patrick Chewing]

Ohhhhhh so ethnically cleanse doesn't mean murdering indiscriminately? Cause now the narrative is about loss of land and not loss of life. It's hard to keep up with you guys and your ever-changing definition of things. Or, at least the narrative that you're trying to portray.

https://i.ibb.co/JB49Z9S/palestinepop.png


For a group that's being "ethnically cleansed", they sure are growing.

[highwhey]

Ohhhhhh so ethnically cleanse doesn't mean murdering indiscriminately? Cause now the narrative is about loss of land and not loss of life. It's hard to keep up with you guys and your ever-changing definition of things. Or, at least the narrative that you're trying to portray.

https://i.ibb.co/JB49Z9S/palestinepop.png


For a group that's being "ethnically cleansed", they sure are growing.

using that same ass backwards logic, the october 7th attack is insignificant because the populace of israel is seeing an increasing growth pattern. :facepalm

you're so fukken retarded you should be banned and someone should call the new york health department on your lard ass for being so obese.

[Patrick Chewing]

using that same ass backwards logic, the october 7th attack is insignificant because the populace of israel is seeing an increasing growth pattern. :facepalm

you're so fukken retarded you should be banned and someone should call the new york health department on your lard ass for being so obese.

It's not backwards logic. You are making a claim of genocide or "ethnic cleansing" and the Palestinians are still thriving. Israelis and Jews don't chant and protest on the street for the destruction of Palestine and call for ever Palestinian to be killed or exterminated. It's hard for people to support your side when you're calling for the ACTUAL ethnic cleansing of a people, in this case, the Jews.

You just exposed yourself as the hateful hypocrite I knew you were from Day 1.