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Street Hunger
11-02-2023, 04:19 PM
When Russell Westbrook eventually retires, and let's say he doesn't win any championships between now and the time he eventually retires, how shouldn't be a career be summarized?
This might be a weird time to ask this because he's on a clippers team packed with stars that probably have their eye on a championship.
But if nothing special happens for the rest of his career, how would you summarize it?
90sgoat
11-02-2023, 04:33 PM
Allen Iverson but better.
Cultural icon and entertainer.
The kind of player that once made the NBA the most entertaining in the world (it's probably not top 5 now).
Xiao Yao You
11-02-2023, 04:38 PM
When Russell Westbrook eventually retires, and let's say he doesn't win any championships between now and the time he eventually retires, how shouldn't be a career be summarized?
This might be a weird time to ask this because he's on a clippers team packed with stars that probably have their eye on a championship.
But if nothing special happens for the rest of his career, how would you summarize it?
winning a ring as a role player wouldn't change anything as far as I'm concerned.
BlakFrankWhite
11-03-2023, 05:23 AM
Legend
bdonovan
11-03-2023, 07:35 AM
We've never seen a point guard so aggressive in attacking the rim.
He's 6 foot 3, charging into the paint like a bull, going up against 7 foot defenders and dunking on them.
He'll be remembered for his fearlessness & his intensity.
He's not in the top 10 PG to have played. His MVP was a fluke; a result of being on a bad team being the only real scorer. His triple doubles come from stat padding- particularly ball dominance and grabbing defensive rebounds- which he shouldn't be doing (as a PG he needs to be running up the court to lead the fast break).
He never developed the ability to truly lead a team's offense. His primary way of scoring is actually quite similar to Harden and Durant. Drive to the hoop and score; if you can't, ditch it. That's not winning basketball.
That's the good and the bad.
Full Court
11-03-2023, 08:18 AM
He'll be remembered as a handsome man.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Ffa%2Fd 0%2Fe4%2Ffad0e4e2474420ef4f672d27163dab90.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=53b29d7f09e52fe4d72e1388d43d4b53ffd093cbabb700 5a882c468503163ab4&ipo=images
He'll also be remembered as a superstar who got dragged to the lottery by LeShrivel.
WhiteKyrie
11-03-2023, 08:45 AM
Allen Iverson but better.
Cultural icon and entertainer.
The kind of player that once made the NBA the most entertaining in the world (it's probably not top 5 now).
No, on all counts. Dumb post.
a) not a better player than Allen Iverson
b) definitely not a cultural icon and def not on AI’s level
c) he wasn’t that level of box office
Watching Russell Westbrook was like watching a car wreck or an explosion go off in an action movie. He’s a mess of a player.
In reality, he should be remembered as a raw stat padding, extremely poor shooting, even worse decision-making shooting guard masquerading as a point guard.
And he failed to deliver championships playing with the most asinine amount of talent throughout his career where he’s been traded away from team to team becoming the cancer, he always was but more pronounced with his regressed athleticism in the back half of his career
Also an over emotional, possibly on the DL, gay dressing selfish weirdo. Thats Russell Westbrick.
Well, if someone is a braindead dumbass with two dead brain cells, they can always think that he's an all-star during the time he played for the lakers even when it's apparent that he isn't. :lol
He’ll be remembered as a Hall of Famer, he’s not going to be remembered for what he did past his prime. What player is?
L.Kizzle
11-03-2023, 09:34 AM
When Russell Westbrook eventually retires, and let's say he doesn't win any championships between now and the time he eventually retires, how shouldn't be a career be summarized?
This might be a weird time to ask this because he's on a clippers team packed with stars that probably have their eye on a championship.
But if nothing special happens for the rest of his career, how would you summarize it?
You remember a player at their best.
Who talks about Iverson in Memphis or Patrick Ewing in Seattle.
Full Court
11-03-2023, 09:44 AM
20 years from now, there will be stat nerds who try to put him in the GOAT conversation because of his triple doubles. :lol
Duffy Pratt
11-03-2023, 12:54 PM
Exceptional talent, high motor, low IQ.
tpols
11-03-2023, 01:16 PM
He'll be remembered as a handsome man.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Ffa%2Fd 0%2Fe4%2Ffad0e4e2474420ef4f672d27163dab90.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=53b29d7f09e52fe4d72e1388d43d4b53ffd093cbabb700 5a882c468503163ab4&ipo=images
He'll also be remembered as a superstar who got dragged to the lottery by LeShrivel.
He definitely had superman physical genetics. Light skinned pint sized version of Dwight Howard.
imdaman99
11-03-2023, 09:14 PM
I've already forgot he existed
kawhileonard2
11-03-2023, 09:52 PM
When Russell Westbrook eventually retires, and let's say he doesn't win any championships between now and the time he eventually retires, how shouldn't be a career be summarized?
This might be a weird time to ask this because he's on a clippers team packed with stars that probably have their eye on a championship.
But if nothing special happens for the rest of his career, how would you summarize it?
Missing Play in with Peak Lebron and Anthony Davis and favorites to win it all that year.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html (Lakers 1st)
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_preseason_odds.html (Lakers 2nd)
ImKobe
11-03-2023, 10:03 PM
Kind of the same way as Oscar. So many players look up to him and his peak numbers are insanely impressive on paper and he has some amazing highlights, but not much Playoff success in comparison to other ATGs. At least Oscar got a ring playing with Kareem. I think Russ has a chance to win one so maybe he'll be remembered way differently 5-10 years from now if he does end up getting one before the end of his career.
SATAN
11-03-2023, 10:16 PM
Explosive athleticism, triple doubles, weird clothes and not a winning player. His MVP season feels like a distant memory now.
John8204
11-04-2023, 06:56 AM
One of the five worst MVP's in the history of the game. If we get to the top 100 players of all-time I think he's in danger of being cut.
Xiao Yao You
11-04-2023, 09:42 AM
Kind of the same way as Oscar. So many players look up to him and his peak numbers are insanely impressive on paper and he has some amazing highlights, but not much Playoff success in comparison to other ATGs. At least Oscar got a ring playing with Kareem. I think Russ has a chance to win one so maybe he'll be remembered way differently 5-10 years from now if he does end up getting one before the end of his career.
Oscar was still starting. Only Westbrook gets a championship is off someone's bench
1987_Lakers
11-04-2023, 10:22 AM
One of the most athletic players ever, an obvious hall of famer, but very reckless who's play style isn't the best for team success (unless he's on a team by himself). Some fans will look at him in the way they see Iverson, but Iverson was more iconic and more loved by fellow players & fans.
Xiao Yao You
11-04-2023, 10:25 AM
One of the most athletic players ever, an obvious hall of famer, but very reckless who's play style isn't the best for team success (unless he's on a team by himself). Some fans will look at him in the way they see Iverson, but Iverson was more iconic and more loved by fellow players & fans.
A warrior like Iverson. Both low IQ
1987_Lakers
11-04-2023, 10:25 AM
Kind of the same way as Oscar. So many players look up to him and his peak numbers are insanely impressive on paper and he has some amazing highlights, but not much Playoff success in comparison to other ATGs. At least Oscar got a ring playing with Kareem. I think Russ has a chance to win one so maybe he'll be remembered way differently 5-10 years from now if he does end up getting one before the end of his career.
Dude just stop posting, Oscar is on the Mt. Rushmore in terms of 60's players, still ranked top 15 ever by many people, Westbrook isn't on that level.
Dude just stop posting, Oscar is on the Mt. Rushmore in terms of 60's players, still ranked top 15 ever by many people, Westbrook isn't on that level.
As a matter of fact, after his 14-year career, he's still ringless atm. Not sure why he doesn't realize this. :confusedshrug:
L.Kizzle
11-04-2023, 01:46 PM
Dude just stop posting, Oscar is on the Mt. Rushmore in terms of 60's players, still ranked top 15 ever by many people, Westbrook isn't on that level.
Fun fact, Oscar missed the playoffs in four of the 10 seasons in the 60s decade. His rookie season and his final three in Cincinnati. Five of those seasons he was below .500.
tpols
11-04-2023, 01:52 PM
One of the best point guard athletes ever, built like superman... but unfortunately also one of the dumbest and feminine ever. His mind doesn't match his body.
ImKobe
11-04-2023, 08:04 PM
Dude just stop posting, Oscar is on the Mt. Rushmore in terms of 60's players, still ranked top 15 ever by many people, Westbrook isn't on that level.
I said "kind of" because of the triple-doubles and that MVP season. Most people know Oscar for the same reason. Russ is on pace to pass Oscar in assists next season and will end up top 5 all-time in that category.
Fun fact, Oscar missed the playoffs in four of the 10 seasons in the 60s decade. His rookie season and his final three in Cincinnati. Five of those seasons he was below .500.
Exactly. I'm sure people cared about that when discussing Big O in the past but that's not what he's remembered for. Last 2 years were rough on Russ but that's not what people are going to remember 10+ years from now.
Xiao Yao You
11-05-2023, 03:57 PM
Law Murray: Tyronn Lue said today that when Westbrook and Harden are on floor together, Westbrook will be point guard and ball handler (https://*********.com/social/) in order to keep Westbrook’s defender engaged. Harden will start out off ball in that set up
– via Twitter LawMurrayTheNU (https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU)
shit show
ArbitraryWater
11-05-2023, 04:28 PM
20 years from now, there will be stat nerds who try to put him in the GOAT conversation because of his triple doubles. :lol
Thats retarded.
The evolution of stats is going to more advanced ones, triple doubles have nothing to do with that.
The more stat nerds there will be, the less favorable Westbrook will be viewed.
Full Court
11-06-2023, 12:17 AM
Thats retarded.
The evolution of stats is going to more advanced ones, triple doubles have nothing to do with that.
The more stat nerds there will be, the less favorable Westbrook will be viewed.
The basic stats are never going away, homie. The main things that matter, other than winning of course, are points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals. Players will always be defined by those kinds of stats. Not by ORTG or PER or any new advanced stat someone comes up with.
Baller234
11-06-2023, 12:23 AM
wow this thread really makes me question the level of expertise on this forum.
westbrook will barely be remembered at all. he'll be alex english, where if you were around you remember him well but ultimately will be forgotten in time.
20-25 years from now people will look back on past MVP winners and be like who the fukk was russell westbrook. and at best you may get answers like "he went to the finals with KD one time..."
guy is one of the most overrated players in history.
1987_Lakers
11-06-2023, 02:10 AM
wow this thread really makes me question the level of expertise on this forum.
westbrook will barely be remembered at all. he'll be alex english, where if you were around you remember him well but ultimately will be forgotten in time.
20-25 years from now people will look back on past MVP winners and be like who the fukk was russell westbrook. and at best you may get answers like "he went to the finals with KD one time..."
guy is one of the most overrated players in history.
I believe Carmelo will be more like Alex English pretty soon, just kinda forgotten.
Westbrook will be remembered a bit more because of his controversial play style.
PeroAntic
11-06-2023, 06:59 AM
He will be remembered as Westbrick
John8204
11-06-2023, 08:09 AM
wow this thread really makes me question the level of expertise on this forum.
westbrook will barely be remembered at all. he'll be alex english, where if you were around you remember him well but ultimately will be forgotten in time.
20-25 years from now people will look back on past MVP winners and be like who the fukk was russell westbrook. and at best you may get answers like "he went to the finals with KD one time..."
guy is one of the most overrated players in history.
Well he won't be forgotten because he'll forever be tied to Durant and Harden. But he will be remembered as one of the guys who didn't belong on the top 75 list. When someone is a fan of Tracy McGrady or Alex English or Dan Issell they'll point to Russ as one of the guys who stole a spot.
Xiao Yao You
11-06-2023, 08:39 AM
I believe Carmelo will be more like Alex English pretty soon, just kinda forgotten.
Westbrook will be remembered a bit more because of his controversial play style.
English was a lot better than Carmelo as were many others
SATAN
11-06-2023, 09:10 AM
But he will be remembered as one of the guys who didn't belong on the top 75 list.
Like AD...
SouBeachTalents
11-06-2023, 09:16 AM
He’ll be remembered as being an NBA players.
Xiao Yao You
11-06-2023, 09:18 AM
Like AD...
Dantley deserved more than others
ImKobe
11-07-2023, 11:15 AM
Well he won't be forgotten because he'll forever be tied to Durant and Harden. But he will be remembered as one of the guys who didn't belong on the top 75 list. When someone is a fan of Tracy McGrady or Alex English or Dan Issell they'll point to Russ as one of the guys who stole a spot.
He'll likely finish top 5 in assists, top 25 in scoring and will be close to top 10 in steals as well. He could end up with 28k points, close to 10k rebounds and 10k+ assists for his career man. There's no argument for T-Mac above Russ all-time anyway. Russ made more All-Star & All-NBA teams, won MVP and has as many scoring titles as T-Mac while also leading the league in assists 3x. Peak for peak you could argue T-Mac's '03 season due to the era he was in, but '17 Russ is right there as well.
sdot_thadon
11-07-2023, 03:29 PM
His eras Charles Barkley, talented, controversial and in the argument for best player in his era to never win the big one.
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