3-point efficiency for all games where MJ had 3+ attempts

[3ba11]

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1985...... 4-18
1986...... 3-6
1987...... 5-22
1988...... 1-3
1989...... 16-49
1990...... 75-187
1991...... 11-30
1992...... 13-39
1993...... 68-185
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total....... 196-539 (36.4%)


TLDR: Jordan shot well from three whenever he had 3+ attempts including:



1) 539 attempts in the 1985-1993 regular seasons from games where he had 3+ attempts (36.4%)

2) 135 attempts from the 1985-1998 playoffs in series where he had 3+ attempts - regular line only (39%).. see the stats in the highlighted series here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514707-When-Draymond-Green-punched-Jordan-Poole&p=14846982&viewfull=1#post14846982)

3) 245 attempts in the 1990 season (3.1 attempts at 38%)

4) 230 attempts in the 1993 season (2.9 attempts at 35%)


CONCLUSION: Jordan would shoot well at today's higher volume since he always did so 30 years ago when he played.

[1987_Lakers]

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[dankok8]

I wouldn't call 36.4% shooting well. He'd be a solid shooter hovering around league average.

[ShawkFactory]

I wouldn't call 36.4% shooting well. He'd be a solid shooter hovering around league average.

Right :lol

Marcus Morris shot 36.4% from 3 last year. Good for 97th in the league.

[sdot_thadon]

Right :lol

Marcus Morris shot 36.4% from 3 last year. Good for 97th in the league.

:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

I wouldn't call 36.4% shooting well. He'd be a solid shooter hovering around league average.

For his era that's well above the average. Teams shot like 32-33% average from 3 back then.

[1987_Lakers]

For his era that's well above the average. Teams shot like 32-33% average from 3 back then.

What's Kobe's excuse?

[ImKobe]

What's Kobe's excuse?

Kobe was a decent volume 3PT shooter in his prime.

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe was a decent volume 3PT shooter in his prime.

33% career 3 point shooter. Below average.

[ImKobe]

33% career 3 point shooter. Below average.

He was a 35% volume 3PT shooter in his prime but fell off once he injured his shooting hand in the late 2000s. Shot 35% for the 3-Peat and 36% for the B2B titles.

[1987_Lakers]

Shot 35% for the 3-Peat and 36% for the B2B titles.

In the postseason, which is a smaller sample size.

Shot 29% in the 1st 3 peat
Shot 34% in the B2B seasons

Pretty mediocre

:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

without practicing or focusing on the shot at all

it's kind of a big factor that you guys completely ignored.

he was shooting at today's standard without practicing the shot or even wanting to be good at the shot - night and day compared to how players are today

And he shot 36% in the regular season but that includes 1985-1989 where he had almost no games of 3+ attempts and shot horribly in the few games that he did - he basically didn't shoot threes until 1990.. And of course he shot 39% in the playoffs for series where he had 3+ attempts from the regular line.. It's a pretty clear trend when you sort his playoff series by 3-point attempts - he shot 40% in his highest volume series.

He practiced 3 point shots, we have actual footage of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM&t

[3ba11]

I wouldn't call 36.4% shooting well. He'd be a solid shooter hovering around league average.


The 36.4% figure includes his first 4 years where he barely had any high-volume games and his overall jumpshot was developing - he basically didn't shoot threes until 1990.. At that point, he shot 40% or more when he had 3+ attempts.. And in the playoffs, he shot 39% at 3+ attempts.. If you sort Jordan's playoffs series by 3-point attempts, there's a clear trend where all his high-volume series show him shooting 40% or better (see stat link in OP).. The trend is clear as day - when Jordan had material attempts, he was literally a 40% three-point shooter.

Btw, the biggest factor is that the 36.4% figure is without practicing or focusing on the shot at all.. why would you ignore this major aspect?.. Since Jordan always shot at today's standard when he had 3+ attempts and this was without practicing, then he would do far better with today's hyper-focus on the shot and endless hours of practice and getting shots up.. This is intuitive..

[1987_Lakers]

Did this dude just delete his post?

:roll:

[3ba11]

He practiced 3 point shots, we have actual footage of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM&t


that isn't practice obviously and it's infact evidence that he never practiced

thanks for showing the evidence of his lack of practice

btw, if you have to deny obvious facts that Jordan didn't practice the shot and didn't think it was good, then you're on the wrong side of the argument.. MJ was a 40% three-point shooter when he took 3+ attempts.. The stats show that clearly.

[1987_Lakers]

MJ was a 40% three-point shooter when he took 3+ attempts.. .

You mean 40% with the short WNBA 3 point line the NBA had from '95-'97?
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[3ba11]

You mean 40% with the short WNBA 3 point line the NBA had from '95-'97?
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* 39% in playoff series where he had 3+ attempts (regular line only)

* 40% in regular season games where he had 3+ attempts if we exclude his first few years in the league when his jumper was developing


Conclusion: Jordan would shoot well at today's higher volume and practice since he always did so 30 years ago without practicing the shot

[1987_Lakers]

* 40% in regular season games where he had 3+ attempts if we exclude his first few years in the league when his jumper was developing[/INDENT]

Only time MJ shot 40% was with a short 3 point line. These are facts.

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[3ba11]

Only time MJ shot 40% was with a short 3 point line.


He shot between 39-46% in every playoff series that he had 3+ attempts, except one (regular line only) - see the stats from the highlighted series here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514707-When-Draymond-Green-punched-Jordan-Poole&p=14846982&viewfull=1#post14846982).. It's a clear trend where he's lights-out in series that he had volume.

And don't you find it interesting that MJ's three-point percentage goes from 32 to 36% in the regular season or 39% in the playoffs when he has 3+ attempts?.. This is a big enough sample to see that he clearly shoots better at higher volume.. Do you think that would happen for Ben Simmons, Zion, or Giannis?... It only happens for good shooters that have great form, like Jordan.. Only then will a player's efficiency INCREASE with volume as opposed to cratering like it does with non-shooters

[Hey Yo]

He was a 35% volume 3PT shooter in his prime but fell off once he injured his shooting hand in the late 2000s. Shot 35% for the 3-Peat and 36% for the B2B titles.

You sure it wasn't before the 2000 season when he hurt his shooting hand?

[dankok8]

He shot between 39-46% in every playoff series that he had 3+ attempts, except one (regular line only) - see the stats from the highlighted series here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?514707-When-Draymond-Green-punched-Jordan-Poole&p=14846982&viewfull=1#post14846982).. It's a clear trend where he's lights-out in series that he had volume.

And don't you find it interesting that MJ's three-point percentage goes from 32 to 36% in the regular season or 39% in the playoffs when he has 3+ attempts?.. This is a big enough sample to see that he clearly shoots better at higher volume.. Do you think that would happen for Ben Simmons, Zion, or Giannis?... It only happens for good shooters that have great form, like Jordan.. Only then will a player's efficiency INCREASE with volume as opposed to cratering like it does with non-shooters

Playoff samples are super small.

I think arguing higher than ~36% is pushing it. There is no consistent evidence MJ could shoot much above 36% from 3pt range.

Sure maybe if he practiced the shot more but that's a hypothetical. We don't know that he didn't practice it or that he would improve much if he did.

[Xiao Yao You]

Playoff samples are super small.

I think arguing higher than ~36% is pushing it. There is no consistent evidence MJ could shoot much above 36% from 3pt range.

Sure maybe if he practiced the shot more but that's a hypothetical. We don't know that he didn't practice it or that he would improve much if he did.

he also didn't growing up shooting like everyone today. First had it in college as a sophomore or junior I think

[SATAN]

He practiced 3 point shots, we have actual footage of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM&t

:roll:

[ELITEpower23]

What's Kobe's excuse?

Gyaaatem! :lol

[ImKobe]

You sure it wasn't before the 2000 season when he hurt his shooting hand?

Broke the index finger on his shooting hand in the '09-'10 season, had to change his shooting form.

[Hey Yo]

Broke the index finger on his shooting hand in the '09-'10 season, had to change his shooting form.

I figured that considering how bad his FG% was over his career, the injury happened in his 2nd or 3rd season.

[3ba11]

Playoff samples are super small.

I think arguing higher than ~36% is pushing it. There is no consistent evidence MJ could shoot much above 36% from 3pt range.

Sure maybe if he practiced the shot more but that's a hypothetical. We don't know that he didn't practice it or that he would improve much if he did.


Anyone that played ball knows these things, especially for players with goat form like MJ.

The point being made itt is that higher volume would equal higher efficiency for Jordan - the 36% figure is based on mostly 3 attempts but the series where he had 4 or 5 attempts were actually 39-43%, which is in line with the idea that more volume = higher efficiency, especially for a player with goat form like MJ