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red1
11-06-2023, 09:33 PM
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kawhi-leonard-career-fouls-vs-career-steals-vs-career-blocks


kawhi has more career steals than career fouls

1,080 fouls
1,094 steals


he's more likely to steal the ball from you than he is to foul you



GOAT defense

red1
11-06-2023, 09:34 PM
this is why he's the second best player of his era, the 2010s


I put him above kd and curry


that gap in defense is bigger than any gap on offense

RRR3
11-06-2023, 09:59 PM
OP did you ever see that fatrick chewing’s pic got exposed. Here’s what he looks like

https://i.ibb.co/v3MxhZ6/IMG-4544.jpg

red1
11-06-2023, 10:00 PM
really?


looks like an office setting so good to see he's an employed tax-payer


needs to cut back on the cupcakes tho

ArbitraryWater
11-06-2023, 10:13 PM
really?


looks like an office setting so good to see he's an employed tax-payer


needs to cut back on the cupcakes tho


did you ever see rrr3?

red1
11-06-2023, 10:20 PM
did you ever see rrr3?

yeah

red1
11-06-2023, 10:20 PM
please post on topic gentlemen


thank you :cheers:

kawhileonard2
11-06-2023, 11:08 PM
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kawhi-leonard-career-fouls-vs-career-steals-vs-career-blocks


kawhi has more career steals than career fouls

1,080 fouls
1,094 steals


he's more likely to steal the ball from you than he is to foul you



GOAT defense

That's right!

kawhileonard2
11-06-2023, 11:08 PM
this is why he's the second best player of his era, the 2010s


I put him above kd and curry


that gap in defense is bigger than any gap on offense

2nd best? He is the best!

jayfan
11-10-2023, 12:25 PM
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kawhi-leonard-career-fouls-vs-career-steals-vs-career-blocks


kawhi has more career steals than career fouls

1,080 fouls
1,094 steals


he's more likely to steal the ball from you than he is to foul you



GOAT defense


More steals than turnovers, too.

1,033 turnovers
1,080 fouls
1,094 steals


.

sdot_thadon
11-10-2023, 02:14 PM
In an era where he's not allowed to touch the guys he's defending much. That's one of the main things that get overlooked when the "easy scoring era" gets brought up. I imagine anyone who is an elite defender in this era would be certified monsters in the rougher ones.

Phoenix
11-10-2023, 02:20 PM
In an era where he's not allowed to touch the guys he's defending much. That's one of the main things that get overlooked when the "easy scoring era" gets brought up. I imagine anyone who is an elite defender in this era would be certified monsters in the rougher ones.

I think it generally would go both ways, the best will adapt. Scottie had the size, length and athleticism on top of the IQ to stand out today, especially because he was a better team defender than a man to man one( depending on the matchup, quicker afoot guys with handle like Penny, Hill and Kobe gave him issues), and in this era you can pretty much switch him on anyone save for the Jokers and Embiids and he'd do a good job.

Xiao Yao You
11-10-2023, 02:53 PM
I think it generally would go both ways, the best will adapt. Scottie had the size, length and athleticism on top of the IQ to stand out today, especially because he was a better team defender than a man to man one( depending on the matchup, quicker afoot guys with handle like Penny, Hill and Kobe gave him issues), and in this era you can pretty much switch him on anyone save for the Jokers and Embiids and he'd do a good job.

Pippen couldn't shoot. He'd be a role player without MJ's coattails

Phoenix
11-10-2023, 03:43 PM
Pippen couldn't shoot. He'd be a role player without MJ's coattails

What does this have to do with my post clearly talking about defense, in a thread clearly talking about defense? You need to go outside and touch some grass.

Xiao Yao You
11-10-2023, 04:06 PM
What does this have to do with my post clearly talking about defense, in a thread clearly talking about defense? You need to go outside and touch some grass.

you said he would adapt in a league where shooting is king

red1
11-10-2023, 05:02 PM
2nd best? He is the best!

lebron

kawhi
curry/kd


thats the 2010s ranking

red1
11-10-2023, 05:04 PM
I used to think kd was better than curry but now its obvious curry does more for his team despite kd being an unguardable scorer


I would say they were pretty even in value

Real Men Wear Green
11-10-2023, 05:33 PM
Leonard is like a basketball Android. He almost never does the wrong thing. Unfortunately he's always hurt so rating him is impossible and if you're relying on him you're done.

Phoenix
11-10-2023, 05:35 PM
you said he would adapt in a league where shooting is king

Are you dense, trolling, being obtuse or is english not your first language? i mean that seriously, because the entire premise of my post talks about how he would adapt defensively. Not a single inference about offense. Here's the post:


I think it generally would go both ways, the best will adapt. Scottie had the size, length and athleticism on top of the IQ to stand out today, especially because he was a better team defender than a man to man one( depending on the matchup, quicker afoot guys with handle like Penny, Hill and Kobe gave him issues), and in this era you can pretty much switch him on anyone save for the Jokers and Embiids and he'd do a good job.

What the fukk does anything there have to do with offense?

Xiao Yao You
11-10-2023, 05:37 PM
Are you dense, trolling, being obtuse or is english not your first language? i mean that seriously, because the entire premise of my post talks about how he would adapt defensively. Not a single inference about offense. Here's the post:



What the fukk does anything there have to do with offense?

might not find the floor if he's left alone offensively. There are two ends of the court

Phoenix
11-10-2023, 05:42 PM
might not find the floor if he's left alone offensively. There are two ends of the court

There are players who are defensively oriented in this league. You think Draymond Green is kept around for offense? I had no idea you were this shitty a poster until the last day.

sdot_thadon
11-10-2023, 08:09 PM
I think it generally would go both ways, the best will adapt. Scottie had the size, length and athleticism on top of the IQ to stand out today, especially because he was a better team defender than a man to man one( depending on the matchup, quicker afoot guys with handle like Penny, Hill and Kobe gave him issues), and in this era you can pretty much switch him on anyone save for the Jokers and Embiids and he'd do a good job.

No doubt, Pippen would be a great defender in any era. I'm just saying Iin my experience it's alot easier to guard someone you can put your hands on. So I imagine an elite perimeter defender from this era would feel like a cheat code with hand checking. Imagine Prime Kawhi, Pacers Paul George or even the Miami version of Lebron with handchecking.Jimmy Butler, Tony Allen, Marcus Smart just to name a few off the top of my head. A guy like Pat Bev would be inside your jersey, he'd foul out tho because eff thst guy lol.

warriorfan
11-11-2023, 09:54 AM
I used to think kd was better than curry but now its obvious curry does more for his team despite kd being an unguardable scorer


I would say they were pretty even in value

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