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Walk on Water
11-14-2023, 04:48 PM
I just don’t understand why it’s so blasphemous to suggest that there are other players other than Jordan that could potentially be better than Lebron. I don’t get it. People are either too into their feelings or will not look at anything they don’t want to look at.

If we are going by longevity and stats, then you have a case for Lebron. But then again, how are you gonna look at points when you ignore the fact that Timmy averaged plenty more rebounds and blocks than Lebron? Not to mention his defense was much more valuable and relevant than a couple chase down blocks here and there.

Duncan also had a much more reliable post up game and probably a better mid range. He was part of a far superior system than a Lebron led system. Also, I think it’s really weird to say Duncan had so much help when in reality he just led a better system.

Lebron played with more superstars than Duncan. Duncan played with Robinson who was at the end of his career and Kawhi was was just starting his prime. Lebron played with Wade, Bosh, then Irving, Love, and then Davis. If Lebron had Manu and Parker, they would just be accused of not helping him enough.

At the end of the day Lebron is 4-6 in the Finals. That’s if you count the pandemic chip. Duncan is 5 and 1. With way less talent. We all saw who the master was in 2007. Who the big daddy really was.

Lebron not only has the most points but by far the most turnovers. He’s gonna have the most missed shots too. I just don’t understand his place in the game. He’s not above Timmy. That’s an insult to the real big daddy.

Overdrive
11-14-2023, 05:01 PM
I just don’t understand why it’s so blasphemous to suggest that there are other players other than Jordan that could potentially be better than Lebron. I don’t get it. People are either too into their feelings or will not look at anything they don’t want to look at.

If we are going by longevity and stats, then you have a case for Lebron. But then again, how are you gonna look at points when you ignore the fact that Timmy averaged plenty more rebounds and blocks than Lebron? Not to mention his defense was much more valuable and relevant than a couple chase down blocks here and there.

Duncan also had a much more reliable post up game and probably a better mid range. He was part of a far superior system than a Lebron led system. Also, I think it’s really weird to say Duncan had so much help when in reality he just led a better system.

Lebron played with more superstars than Duncan. Duncan played with Robinson who was at the end of his career and Kawhi was was just starting his prime. Lebron played with Wade, Bosh, then Irving, Love, and then Davis. If Lebron had Manu and Parker, they would just be accused of not helping him enough.

At the end of the day Lebron is 4-6 in the Finals. That’s if you count the pandemic chip. Duncan is 5 and 1. With way less talent. We all saw who the master was in 2007. Who the big daddy really was.

Lebron not only has the most points but by far the most turnovers. He’s gonna have the most missed shots too. I just don’t understand his place in the game. He’s not above Timmy. That’s an insult to the real big daddy.

Your post is the usual gibberish when it comes to argue against Lebron. Every single multiple title winner had good teammates or very well constructed teams. Yes, 2003. But the 2003 Spurs don't win 05, 07 or 14. By then Parker, Manu and later Kawhi were established players. The role players fit and the system in place was always playing to the team's composition strengthes.

That said. Of course it's not outlandish to argue Duncan against Lenron. Points can be made, but Lebron's individual success should not be overlooked and the case that could be made is very thin.

What Duncan has in common with Lebron that they were the most sure thing to come into the NBA at their respective time. I didn't experience the Shaq sweepstakes, but Duncan was unreal. Everyone wanted that pick there was no doubt about him and he delivered. Even moreso than Lebron at first.

Duncan changed the culture of the Spurs forever. That's something very few can say about themselves.

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2023, 05:09 PM
Typical OP.

Lebron is literally the one player Duncan CANT hold a candle to.

Full Court
11-14-2023, 05:11 PM
Correct. I have Duncan ahead of Lebron on the all time list. Lebron has arguably accomplished more, but he's also done more epic choking (and that's not even mentioning the team hopping). So all things considered, Duncan wins out.

red1
11-14-2023, 05:12 PM
nope


https://media.tenor.com/TefGY3GZ0_oAAAAd/lebron-james.gif
https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/06/lebron-block.gif

red1
11-14-2023, 05:13 PM
Correct. I have Duncan ahead of Lebron on the all time list. Lebron has arguably accomplished more, but he's also done more epic choking (and that's not even mentioning the team hopping). So all things considered, Duncan wins out.

no one cares where you have anything, you fat little bitch :oldlol:

RRR3
11-14-2023, 05:27 PM
no one cares where you have anything, you fat little bitch :oldlol:
Yep he was voted the official “dumbest poster in ISH 2023”, so if he says it it’s almost certainly wrong.

Wardell Curry
11-14-2023, 05:54 PM
Tim Duncan might be the best player that ever lived.

RRR3
11-14-2023, 05:55 PM
Tim Duncan might be the best player that ever lived.
:kobe:

Full Court
11-14-2023, 05:56 PM
no one cares where you have anything, you fat little bitch :oldlol:

Obviously you do, or you wouldn't throw a bitch fit every time I point out your hero's flaws. :lol

Full Court
11-14-2023, 05:56 PM
Yep he was voted the official “dumbest poster in ISH 2023”, so if he says it it’s almost certainly wrong.

Your coping mechanism thread isn't working. You might want to try another one. :roll:

tpols
11-14-2023, 06:09 PM
Yep he was voted the official “dumbest poster in ISH 2023”, so if he says it it’s almost certainly wrong.

Putting a hit list out on posters you disagree with doesn't constitute any level of test on cognitive aptitude. It just makes you appear overly feminine and emotional.

red1
11-14-2023, 06:18 PM
Obviously you do, or you wouldn't throw a bitch fit every time I point out your hero's flaws. :lol

I was here posting after 2011 saying lbj choked and congratulating mavs and dirk fans


Im not a little bitch like you.



pardon - a fat little bitch like you :oldlol:

rmt
11-14-2023, 06:18 PM
Putting a hit list out on posters you disagree with doesn't constitute any level of test on cognitive aptitude. It just makes you appear overly feminine and emotional.

Hmmm - some might call this woke - not to mention tying "emotional" to the previous adjective.

red1
11-14-2023, 06:21 PM
shoutout to the homie PAUK


bro was saying lebron was the GOAT right after the 2011 choke and was a 1-man army fighting off the hordes of celebrating kobe stans :oldlol:


everyone was calling wade batman and lebron robin and enjoying the ringless jokes but PAUK remained firm and was rewarded with two rings and finals MVPs :oldlol:

sdot_thadon
11-14-2023, 06:23 PM
If by arguably you mean slight disagreement unworthy of even raising your voice, sure.

tpols
11-14-2023, 06:31 PM
Hmmm - some might call this woke - not to mention tying "emotional" to the previous adjective.


You're generally logical from what I've seen, sorry to offend. RRR3 is like... Kardashian level petty and emotional.

Hate to put it point blank but... some dudes are bitches.

Axe
11-14-2023, 06:47 PM
You're generally logical from what I've seen, sorry to offend. RRR3 is like... Kardashian level petty and emotional.

Hate to put it point blank but... some dudes are bitches.
Lol what a divisive douche even towards some fellow lebron fans.

red1
11-14-2023, 06:54 PM
lebron was robbed of defensive player of the year that year

was a dominant help defender and a great man defender. locked down tony parker in crucial possessions including that crucial game 6 possession to go to OT.


https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LeBron-James-Blocks-Tiago-Splitter-Game-2-2013-NBA-Finals.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Tz854lh2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZldJ5ocm5g

Hey Yo
11-14-2023, 07:02 PM
I was here posting after 2011 saying lbj choked and congratulating mavs and dirk fans


Im not a little bitch like you.



pardon - a fat little bitch like you :oldlol:

He trolls LeBron because he's still hasn't gotten over his 1 seed Bulls getting shit on by the underdog Heat in 2011.

red1
11-14-2023, 07:11 PM
He trolls LeBron because he's still hasn't gotten over his 1 seed Bulls getting shit on by the underdog Heat in 2011.

that makes a lot of sense thanks for sharing









and maybe he's also just a fat little bitch :oldlol:

Axe
11-14-2023, 07:23 PM
He trolls LeBron because he's still hasn't gotten over his 1 seed Bulls getting shit on by the underdog Heat in 2011.
Dumb. Pre-season faves became 'underdogs' later in the playoffs?

LeGoat4Life
11-14-2023, 08:04 PM
I was here posting after 2011 saying lbj choked and congratulating mavs and dirk fans


Im not a little bitch like you.



pardon - a fat little bitch like you :oldlol:

Why is this little apu always throwing a sissy fit? :oldlol:

Full Court
11-14-2023, 08:05 PM
Why is this little apu always throwing a sissy fit? :oldlol:

:roll:

He can't help it. It's in his nature.

John8204
11-14-2023, 10:17 PM
Well I think you've got eight guys you can make the argument as being the GOAT...it's something you achieve based on your generation (Mikan, Wilt, Bill, KAJ, Bird, Magic, Jordan, Lebron). Any one of those guys you can argue is better than Lebron. The big issue with Duncan is in his generation he might not have been better than Dirk, Kobe, and Shaq...when you aren't the best of your generation or in the discussion (Wilt/Bill, Magic/Bird) I don't know if you should really be in the discussion.

But yeah if you wanted to go one to one Tim Duncan and Jerry West are two guys that you could argue were actually better than Lebron. Those guys were more successful and versatile than Lebron. On the other hand Lebron had to build his teams and both Duncan and West had great teams built around them. But Lebrons accomplishments are often overlooked

1. He's playing against a global group of guys not just white players, or US players.
2 He's the most productive 20 season player in NBA history
3. He's the best five position player ever
4. He's not playing in a era with crooked refs, or small group of teams.

red1
11-14-2023, 10:19 PM
...

:roll:

He can't help it. It's in his nature.


suck my dick bitch. another one of the usual ******s that post here, using a different account. :oldlol:

eliteballer
11-14-2023, 10:44 PM
Don't forget the 2014 finals.

FilmyCogTurner
11-14-2023, 10:44 PM
Agreed. Jordan is obviously the GOAT however the #2 can go to a lot of different players. Duncan, KAJ, Bird, Magic, Lebron, Wilt, Russell and I include Kobe as well (most will disagree but skill level and overall respect from the league and fans should hold weight IMO).

kawhileonard2
11-14-2023, 11:12 PM
Typical OP.

Lebron is literally the one player Duncan CANT hold a candle to.

Beat him head to head more and won more titles without switching teams and stacking the deck.

Full Court
11-14-2023, 11:31 PM
suck my dick bitch. another one of the usual ******s that post here, using a different account. :oldlol:

You:

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:lol

rmt
11-14-2023, 11:38 PM
You're generally logical from what I've seen, sorry to offend. RRR3 is like... Kardashian level petty and emotional.

Hate to put it point blank but... some dudes are bitches.

No offense taken - just pulling your leg.

I totally understand what you mean - they’re all types out there.

eliteballer
11-15-2023, 06:19 PM
Duncan didn't need Super Teams, LeRoid did.