This is why people know Kobe was more clutch than Lebron

[3ba11]

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Playoff Career


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Finals


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYD2Ose3CgQ&t=4m08s

[8Ball]

Year 21 LeBron (20 straight seasons played) crushes Wizards Jordan (only 13-14 total seasons played at that point) so hard.

Year 21, age 39 (soon to be) LeBron better than 85% of Kobe's.

[Full Court]

There's a reason Lebron has the widely used nickname "LeShrivel." He usually did underachieve in the clutch.

[Xiao Yao You]

don't know about the clutch but hard to argue he hasn't underachieved. Not 1, not 2...

[CurryOverLebron]

Kobe was Shaq's sidekick who in turn was Wade's sidekick. Never compare that sidekick to Lebron.

[madjake2183]

Jordan in 11 full "prime" seasons accomplished more than LeBron has in 21. Imagine if Jordan was as obsessed with wanting to be considered the GOAT without debate. Kinda sad he's spent this much time chasing Jordan and still isn't considered by everyone to be best ever.

[ShawkFactory]

Jordan in 11 full "prime" seasons accomplished more than LeBron has in 21. Imagine if Jordan was as obsessed with wanting to be considered the GOAT without debate. Kinda sad he's spent this much time chasing Jordan and still isn't considered by everyone to be best ever.

You have a skewed view of what sad is.

[Axe]

Jordan in 11 full "prime" seasons accomplished more than LeBron has in 21. Imagine if Jordan was as obsessed with wanting to be considered the GOAT without debate. Kinda sad he's spent this much time chasing Jordan and still isn't considered by everyone to be best ever.
But his career would have been close to irrelevant if not for scottie pippen.

[Xiao Yao You]

But his career would have been close to irrelevant if not for scottie pippen.

:facepalm

[StrongLurk]

OP - a Lebron hater, posting a video that was made by some other nobody Lebron hater, and the video is hating on Lebron.

Wow what a surprise...

[3ba11]

OP - a Lebron hater, posting a video that was made by some other nobody Lebron hater, and the video is hating on Lebron.

Wow what a surprise...


posting stats is now "hating"

[sdot_thadon]

Yet he has more playoff gamewinners than Kobe and Mj. Weird how '"the most unclutch" of the 3 has more big shots when it counts. Makes you wonder how they compare in game 7s, or elimination games in general......:kobe:

[StrongLurk]

posting stats is now "hating"

I thought you didn't care about Lebron? The last 15 years or so would show that you do care about Lebron...you care A LOT about Lebron. I know damn well you've had dreams about him too :lol

[sdot_thadon]

I thought you didn't care about Lebron? The last 15 years or so would show that you do care about Lebron...you care A LOT about Lebron. I know damn well you've had dreams about him too :lol

Nightmares :lol

[red1]

its been a rough decade for OP


he used to write essays saying lebron would retire early and didnt have the skills to play into his 30s






safe to say OP was wrong :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Better playoff averages
Much better Finals averages
MUCH better elimination game averages
More playoff game winners
Double the FMVP's

OP loses as usual :( 3baLLLLL

[RRR3]

Better playoff averages
Much better Finals averages
MUCH better elimination game averages
More playoff game winners
Double the FMVP's

OP loses as usual :( 3baLLLLL
That shit just tears them up inside. They have to cling to a ring Kobe won averaging 15.6 PPG on 41.1 TS% to say "more rings" :yaohappy:

[SouBeachTalents]

That shit just tears them up inside. They have to cling to a ring Kobe won averaging 15.6 PPG on 41.1 TS% to say "more rings" :yaohappy:
And he can't even use that, because Pippen has more rangz than Kobe, Havlicek has more rangz than Jordan, and Russell nearly doubles him up.

[RRR3]

And he can't even use that, because Pippen has more rangz than Kobe, Havlicek has more rangz than Jordan, and Russell nearly doubles him up.
He'll say rings as the best player and try to argue Kobe was somehow the best player in 2000 when he put up prime Dion Waiters stats in the finals.

[Lebron23]

Lebron have more playoffs game winners than Kobe

[Full Court]

Lebron have more playoffs game winners than Kobe

Kobe never have choke job like 2011.

[RRR3]

Kobe never have choke job like 2011.
He had more than one lol. Dull Court showing he doesn't know NBA history yet again :(

[warriorfan]

He'll say rings as the best player and try to argue Kobe was somehow the best player in 2000 when he put up prime Dion Waiters stats in the finals.

kobe wasn’t even 20 yet and got injured

what was bron’s excuse in 2011? :lol

[RRR3]

kobe wasn’t even 20 yet and got injured

what was bron’s excuse in 2011? :lol
Kobe was 2 months away from 22 in the 2000 finals, are you retarded? If he was injured he shouldn't have been chucking up 27 shots.

[1987_Lakers]

kobe wasn’t even 20 yet and got injured

what was bron’s excuse in 2011? :lol

27 year old Curry couldn't even win FMVP over Iggy.

[RRR3]

27 year old Curry couldn't even win FMVP over Iggy.
Dingo mode.

[k0kakw0rld]

posting stats is now "hating"

Stfu Freefa11

[NBAGOAT]

Op has knocked lebrons time of possession for years. He’s at under 5mpg this year and has the ball less than guys like Mike Conley and Chris Paul and playing like a top 5 player still being fantastic offball(5th in epm). Lakers 9-6 with ad having a down year on offense and dlo being the only other positive player on team. Absolute crickets from him lol

[ImKobe]

OP on point as usual. KB also has a better AST/TO ratio in crunch time

[Full Court]

He had more than one lol. Dull Court showing he doesn't know NBA history yet again :(

He had many choke jobs, but none that were on the level of the 2011 most epic choke job in the history of the sport. I would not expect someone of your low mental stature to understand this.

[3ba11]

And he can't even use that, because Pippen has more rangz than Kobe, Havlicek has more rangz than Jordan, and Russell nearly doubles him up.


Rings as the best player or 1st option is all that matters and no one is anywhere near Jordan in this area since the 3-point line began in 1980 or since the ABA merger or blacks were fully -allowed in the league (post-Russell)

[3ba11]

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Thread Cliffs

In the Finals, Lebron shot 27% in 1-possession games with under 2 minutes - over a massive sample size (10 tries)

This confirms that he's a choker, along with his many meltdowns such as 2010 2nd Round or 2011 Finals or 2014 Finals or 2023 Finals (swept with the better roster) and many more like 09' ECF (he became a 12 TO per game player in clutch time, last 5 within 5) - no team can win when the primary ball-handler becomes Westbrick on steroids in the clutch

[tpols]

Anybody that's ever watched basketball could see Kobe was the more dominant takeover crunchtime scorer.

A stat matrix can be manipulated in any which way to make one guy or another look better depending on the parameters chosen. You could probably choose the right set of parameters to make Lebron look more clutch than MJ which nobody would agree to.

We saw Lebron and Kobe play together in their primes in the 2008 Olympics. Kobe was the obvious choice for the clutch takeover role amongst himself, Lebron, and Wade. Lebron and Wade were better offensively in the flow of those games mostly because Kobe was taking on the biggest perimeter defensive role on the team but they knew Kobe was the guy to take shit over under pressure in crunchtime.


https://youtu.be/fhpVE5Yfvhc?si=XLOsmS0O7WKP-FD9

[red1]

game 7 nba finals


37 points and the game-winner vs gregg popovich's 5 time champion spurs:

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[red1]

greatest elimination game performer in nba history

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/05/25/lebron-james-playoff-elimination-games-record-stats#:~:text=LeBron%20James%20has%20played%2022,0 .95%20blocks%20and%201.7%20steals.

[red1]

only player in NBA history with a finals MVP on 3 different franchises

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[red1]

the legacy is cemented

[red1]

OP used to write essays saying KG is better than lebron


he was threated because he knew the real threat to MJ's legacy was never going to be KG :oldlol:


remember how you used to say lebron cant lead a team to a ring?

did it 4 times fakkit and was the best player in the finals 8 times couldve ran up even more rings if it wasnt for injuries and playing the most stacked teams ever. :oldlol:

[tpols]

game 7 nba finals


37 points and the game-winner vs gregg popovich's 5 time champion spurs:

https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/06/lebron31.gif

That was a great game but Ray saved his ass in historic clutch fashion to get there. He was playing scared before Ray flipped the momentum with one of the biggest do or die bailout shots ever.

[red1]

That was a great game but Ray saved his ass in historic clutch fashion to get there. He was playing scared before Ray flipped the momentum with one of the biggest do or die bailout shots ever.

I saw all of those series


saw every nba finals the last 2.5 decades


youre completely wrong and that is revisionist history


lebron singlehandedly brought them back from a 10 point deficit and van gundy covering the game said it was a superhuman effort


meanwhile kobe shoots 6 for 24 in game 7s of the finals

[red1]

its all right here



GOAT james:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56iR3188P0&ab_channel=NBA

[ShawkFactory]

That was a great game but Ray saved his ass in historic clutch fashion to get there. He was playing scared before Ray flipped the momentum with one of the biggest do or die bailout shots ever.

Nah he turned it on in the 4th before that. Doesn't diminish the hugeness of the shot but momentum had already shifted.

[red1]

2013 heat was a SQUAD my boy :roll:


took a dynasty out and gave the spurs their only finals loss - would have been 6/6 for if it wasnt for GOAT james dwade and ray ray :roll:



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[red1]

Nah he turned it on in the 4th before that. Doesn't diminish the hugeness of the shot but momentum had already shifted.

he's a retarded kobe fanboy


van gundy was losing his mind praising lebron for his clutch defense and scoring in the incredible 10 point comeback - he was the only one on the heat doing anything and saved their entire season. the headband game :applause:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yoocmcfuyw&ab_channel=GAMETIMEHIGHLIGHTS

[red1]

just watch the 4th quarter you clowns - the full game is right here for you


mike breen yelling: "an eruption here in the 4th by lebron james"


singlehandedly brought them from being down 10 at the start of the 4th quarter in an elimination finals game - GOAT mother****ing james - and then dropped 37 with a game-winner the next game :applause:


"buh buh ray allen" :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56iR3188P0&ab_channel=NBA

[tpols]

I saw all of those series


saw every nba finals the last 2.5 decades


youre completely wrong and that is revisionist history


lebron singlehandedly brought them back from a 10 point deficit and van gundy covering the game said it was a superhuman effort


meanwhile kobe shoots 6 for 24 in game 7s of the finals


Pull up his numbers from the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter in game 6. He was turning it over and bricking. Ray saved his ass against 99:1 odds.

No one's saying he isn't good in the flow of games. This is a discussion on crunchtime and clutchness. Pulling a game where he bricked the do or die game tying shot and Ray saved him isn't helping you here lol.

[red1]

Pull up his numbers from the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter in game 6. He was turning it over and bricking. Ray saved his ass against 99:1 odds.

No one's saying he isn't good in the flow of games. This is a discussion on crunchtime and clutchness. Pulling a game where he bricked the do or die game tying shot and Ray saved him isn't helping you here lol.

thats the mistake you kobe fanboys make


you act like lebron has to hit every shot and make every single play


he absolutely utterly carried that team


great that ray allen hit that shot :applause:

[red1]

ron artest bailed kobe out when kobe shot 6 for 24 in game 7 of the nba finals


good job rebounding though kobe


shot 24 times and missed 18 shots


such an assassin - so clutch. black mamba.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI&ab_channel=rebornatm23

[red1]

meanwhile lebron dropped 37 in his finals game 7


hit his own game-winner


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[red1]

OP on point as usual. KB also has a better AST/TO ratio in crunch time

you guys have been hating for over a decade now


just let it go

[tpols]

Nah he turned it on in the 4th before that. Doesn't diminish the hugeness of the shot but momentum had already shifted.

The Spurs went up 5 or so points with under 30 seconds. Who did the momentum shift to with them grabbing the lead?

[red1]

The Spurs went up 5 or so points with under 30 seconds. Who did the momentum shift to with them grabbing the lead?

you're just a fanboy hater, which we already know. I literally just posted the full game for you. thats fine. :oldlol:

go watch that 4th quarter.


and tell me who willed that team back



van gundy and breen both say it out loud, seperately, clear as day son


"buh buh he missed a shot or two and had a turnover or two - after erasing a 10-point deficit" - dumbass hating kobe fanboy :oldlol::



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56iR3188P0&t=5394s&ab_channel=NBA

[red1]

thats why kobe fans get roasted for their clutch and assassin narratives

[ShawkFactory]

The Spurs went up 5 or so points with under 30 seconds. Who did the momentum shift to with them grabbing the lead?

The game looked over with about 9 minutes left and the Heat came storming back. Spurs punched back a little at the end but the Heat had more juice. It is what it is you don't have to argue just for the sake of it.

[tpols]

Red are you on Adderall or something. You're spamming this thread like a crackhead. :oldlol:

Keep it to one post at a time. Not flurries of 4-5 posts responding to yourself.

Shawk said Lebrons 10 point stretch flipped the momentum. Focus. How could that be when the spurs dominated the last few minutes of the game? To the point all the fans like YOU were leaving Miamis stadium with their heads down. And then begging to come back in after the miracle Hail Mary happened?

There are other games you could pull where Lebron was more clutch. If that's the best you've got you're just proving OPs point.

[red1]

The game looked over with about 9 minutes left and the Heat came storming back. Spurs punched back a little at the end but the Heat had more juice. It is what it is you don't have to argue just for the sake of it.

lebron was literally running the court in the 4th quarter when they were down 10 scoring, finishing plays, setting up shooters, blocking duncan, locking down tony parker, literally did everything possible to bring them back


mike breen said it was an eruption in the 4th and van gundy said it was a superhuman effort to bring them back



lbj was also literally robbed of the DPOY that year and everyone knows that - he was the heats defensive anchor and was blocking splitter and duncan multiple times challenging them up front and had a block on duncan in the clutch in that game 6


these kobe fanboy haters and their revisionist history is ridiculous. it was a slow start to the series but he really turned it up at the end and that game 6 and 7 were just dominant at the end.


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[tpols]

The game looked over with about 9 minutes left and the Heat came storming back. Spurs punched back a little at the end but the Heat had more juice. It is what it is you don't have to argue just for the sake of it.

:roll:

Bro... that's a bold faced lie "the Heat had more juice". They were dead in the water to the point the fans were all walking out of the arena. It's OK to admit it took some extremely fortunate circumstances a Hail Mary basically to come back. You don't have to lie or distort what happened in that game.

[red1]

:roll:

Bro... that's a bold faced lie "the Heat had more juice". They were dead in the water to the point the fans were all walking out of the arena. It's OK to admit it took some extremely fortunate circumstances a Hail Mary basically to come back. You don't have to lie or distort what happened in that game.

danny green set a 3pt finals record that series for the spurs - I dont see you mentioning that. buh buh ray allen.


that spurs team was stacked and they destroyed the west that year and the rest of the league next year


and leGOAT was the last one standing with the most energy and hit the series winner in 2013 - kobe doesnt have a single shot in his resume as big as this shot :applause:


deal with it son


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[red1]

Red are you on Adderall or something. You're spamming this thread like a crackhead. :oldlol:

Keep it to one post at a time. Not flurries of 4-5 posts responding to yourself.

Shawk said Lebrons 10 point stretch flipped the momentum. Focus. How could that be when the spurs dominated the last few minutes of the game? To the point all the fans like YOU were leaving Miamis stadium with their heads down. And then begging to come back in after the miracle Hail Mary happened?

There are other games you could pull where Lebron was more clutch. If that's the best you've got you're just proving OPs point.

just stating facts. of course you'd have to respond with something like that. :oldlol:



lebron is easily the better big-game performer than kobe and that narrative of kobe being more clutch is just false. your fanboy posts are annoying so Im just responding.


its not that complicated.


Its always the same fanboy clowns - tpols, 3ball, ImKobe, the usual :oldlol:

[red1]

the old man is in his 21st season and still has these haters sick




Im enjoying the ride while I can knowing their fanboy idols have already been surpassed - we'll definitely get the usual bullshit from these clowns in the meantime :oldlol:

[eliteballer]

DO NOT compare LeRoid's tainted career with Kobe's.

[red1]

dont underrate that 2013 heat team


they were dominant and were ridiculously clutch. you can look at that 27 game win streak and how they always had that late game magic with different guys like lbj wade and ray and clutch role-players making crazy plays.


that spurs team was absolutely stacked in hindsight and heat capitalized on just a few mistakes. duncan was a beast the next year in 2014 and there were a ton of sharpshooters on that team.

[ELITEpower23]

Why does LBJ have double Kobe's FMVP and quadruple his MVPs?

[red1]

Im just pushing back against the narrative of the heat being lucky and hitting a lucky shot, because all the players on that 2013 roster were clutch from top to bottom


lbj did the heavy lifting bringing them back into the game, and ray hit the biggest shot in NBA history


but also a clutch rebound from bosh and the role-players on the heat were clutch. guys like mike miller and battier and chalmers


cant win 27-games in a row without being a team that can execute well in the clutch



that was a great finals series and even the spurs fans can get over the pain of that series with a championship the next year :oldlol:

[Full Court]

dont underrate that 2013 heat team


they were dominant and were ridiculously clutch. you can look at that 27 game win streak and how they always had that late game magic with different guys like lbj wade and ray and clutch role-players making crazy plays.


that spurs team was absolutely stacked in hindsight and heat capitalized on just a few mistakes. duncan was a beast the next year in 2014 and there were a ton of sharpshooters on that team.

They were a stacked super team. That's why the man you love jumped ship and went over there.

And STILL underachieved. "Not five, not six, not seven......"

:roll:

[red1]

They were a stacked super team. That's why the man you love jumped ship and went over there.

And STILL underachieved. "Not five, not six, not seven......"

:roll:

it isnt possible to win "5 or 6 rings" in 4 years you moron :oldlol:


he made one joke and it still has you sick and obsessed all these years later posting homosexual nonsense like "bronies" and "fluffers" :roll:


2 finals MVPs in 4 years - got you sick son





13.5k post in 2 years basement dwelling ******



you are deranged and obsessed full court





Im just enjoying the final years of the GOAT career

[Full Court]

it isnt possible to win "5 or 6 rings" in 4 years you moron :oldlol:


he made one joke and it still has you sick and obsessed all these years later posting homosexual nonsense like "bronies" and "fluffers" :roll:


2 finals MVPs in 4 years - got you sick son





13.5k post in 2 years basement dwelling ******



you are deranged and obsessed full court





Im just enjoying the final years of the GOAT career

Not possible for LeBum to win 5 or 6 rings in 20 years either, doofus.

What a Bronie fluffer. :roll:

[red1]

Not possible for LeBum to win 5 or 6 rings in 20 years either, doofus.

What a Bronie fluffer. :roll:

dude.


you're gay.





stop talking about ponies and fluffing and *****.

[ShawkFactory]

DO NOT compare LeRoid's tainted career with Kobe's.

Lebron vs Kobe.

[Full Court]

dude.


you're gay.





stop talking about ponies and fluffing and *****.

^Triggered biatch.


How's the Bronie fluffer life treating you? :lol

[Full Court]

We saw once again last night against the Mavs that LeShrivel just doesn't have the clutch gene in him. No way someone like that is in the GOAT conversation.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

game 7 nba finals


37 points and the game-winner vs gregg popovich's 5 time champion spurs:

https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2013/06/lebron31.gif

This was not a game winner; the Heat won by 7 pts. This shot was like 30 seconds left. Lebron's never (0-8) hit a game winner in the finals. Go back and look starting in 2007. Secondly, I remember that game being all about Shane Battier who went 6-8 from downtown. But I was a 40 year old adult watching it live, not on Youtube clips and/or a fetus.

[red1]

This was not a game winner; the Heat won by 7 pts. This shot was like 30 seconds left. Lebron's never (0-8) hit a game winner in the finals. Go back and look starting in 2007. Secondly, I remember that game being all about Shane Battier who went 6-8 from downtown. But I was a 40 year old adult watching it live, not on Youtube clips and/or a fetus.

little bitch I saw it live



series deciding, game-winning shot


deal with it :oldlol:

[red1]

We saw once again last night against the Mavs that LeShrivel just doesn't have the clutch gene in him. No way someone like that is in the GOAT conversation.

GOAT



deal with it little boy

[red1]

little boy getting bullied by axe every day :oldlol:


lost every argument he ever had with that axe kid, so he just runs around screaming "bronies" and "fluffers" :roll:

[Full Court]

GOAT



deal with it little boy

Educate yourself and weep it out, biatch. :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?509969-Verdict-is-in-Jordan-STILL-consensus-GOAT

The man you love will never be the GOAT no matter how much you wish it to be so. :lol

[red1]

Educate yourself and weep it out, biatch. :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?509969-Verdict-is-in-Jordan-STILL-consensus-GOAT

The man you love will never be the GOAT no matter how much you wish it to be so. :lol

I dont care that much about his legacy its not my career


I'll say he's top 2, top 3 for sure. and have no problem arguing him as GOAT.


Im enjoying the last years of his GOAT career


Ive been an lbj fan since 2003 and commented on cavs games since starting posting here in 2009


Im trying to help you son


posting 13.6k times about 1 man in 2 years - thats not healthy dude.







you DESPERATELY need help.

[SpaceJammeR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLMZOVsyw1g

[sdot_thadon]

This was not a game winner; the Heat won by 7 pts. This shot was like 30 seconds left. Lebron's never (0-8) hit a game winner in the finals. Go back and look starting in 2007. Secondly, I remember that game being all about Shane Battier who went 6-8 from downtown. But I was a 40 year old adult watching it live, not on Youtube clips and/or a fetus.

Nah, it was the dagger, effectively ending the game. And it absolutely was not about Shane Battier, who had a great, clutch game i might add. Lebron had 37, 12, and 4. On over 50% from the field and from 3 and was perfect from the line. Maybe the best finals game 7 ever. I always hear the who you would take in one game with your life on the line narrative, Lebron is the Greatest elimination game player ever.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Nah, it was the dagger, effectively ending the game. And it absolutely was not about Shane Battier, who had a great, clutch game i might add. Lebron had 37, 12, and 4. On over 50% from the field and from 3 and was perfect from the line. Maybe the best finals game 7 ever. I always hear the who you would take in one game with your life on the line narrative, Lebron is the Greatest elimination game player ever.

It was not the game winner, no matter how much you say it was the dagger. It was with 1/2 minute left. So you do concede then that Ray-Ray hit the dagger (do or die) in game 6, and Kyrie hit the dagger in game 7 vs GS in 2016? So those two + a bubble ring = a GOAT in people's mind? Tack on 6 losses and the record margin loss in 2014, the 2011 epic choke job 17 PPG effort, the 2007 22 PPG on 35% with 8 turnovers per game, when he had 27PPG for the regular season? This is your clutch guy? LOLOL

[red1]

It was not the game winner, no matter how much you say it was the dagger. It was with 1/2 minute left. So you do concede then that Ray-Ray hit the dagger (do or die) in game 6, and Kyrie hit the dagger in game 7 vs GS in 2016? So those two + a bubble ring = a GOAT in people's mind? Tack on 6 losses and the record margin loss in 2014, the 2011 epic choke job 17 PPG effort, the 2007 22 PPG on 35% with 8 turnovers per game, when he had 27PPG for the regular season? This is your clutch guy? LOLOL

what planet are you on? :oldlol:



score was 88-90 and that was the go-ahead, game-winning, series-deciding shot


37 point game 7 of the nba finals


that's the definition of clutch - it doesnt always have to be a buzzer-beater :oldlol:

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[red1]

lebron finals MVP


their defensive anchor and the best defensive player in the league that year (2013), and their main playmaker and scorer :applause:



locked down drose, tony parker, destroyed the spurs bigs several times - back to back MVPs and finals MVPs - it was a great year :oldlol:


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[red1]

clutch defense AND offense


game 6 lbj singlehandedly erased a 10 points spurs lead in the 4th quarter - "buh buh ray allen" :oldlol:


dropped 37 in game 7 to close them out


just let it go kids :oldlol:


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[sdot_thadon]

It was not the game winner, no matter how much you say it was the dagger. It was with 1/2 minute left. So you do concede then that Ray-Ray hit the dagger (do or die) in game 6, and Kyrie hit the dagger in game 7 vs GS in 2016? So those two + a bubble ring = a GOAT in people's mind? Tack on 6 losses and the record margin loss in 2014, the 2011 epic choke job 17 PPG effort, the 2007 22 PPG on 35% with 8 turnovers per game, when he had 27PPG for the regular season? This is your clutch guy? LOLOL

Why tf are you so angry? A gamewinner and a dagger can be the same thing but they aren't always. He put the Heat up 2 scores with slightly more than one possession left on the clock, effectively ending the game. The dagger. And if you'd like to argue its importance here's the last minute 30 sec of game 7 for the title:

Lebron jumper to make it a 4 point lead
Lebron steal
Lebron sinks 2 ft
Lebron forces airball
Wade 1 of 2 ft,
Champs.

And yes only an idiot wouldn't admit Ray's shot was huge, I wouldn't call it a dagger tho, because it merely kept them alive rather than putting the game out of reach. Remember they went to overtime and never forget Lebron had a 16 point 4th to put them in position for that shot making almost all the plays to get them to that moment. Kyries shot was cold blooded as they come, but it made it a 3pt (one possession) game with the best and perhaps 2nd best 3 point shooters in NBA history having 50 sec.(2 possessions of game time). Lebron did also had a ft following kyries shot that also made that a 4 point (2 possession) game with 10 seconds left. I'm sure the truth is painful but its also undeniable.

[Full Court]

lebron finals MVP


their defensive anchor and the best defensive player in the league that year (2013), and their main playmaker and scorer :applause:



locked down drose, tony parker, destroyed the spurs bigs several times - back to back MVPs and finals MVPs - it was a great year :oldlol:


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His chokes FAR exceed the times he's come through in the clutch. As I've proven beyond dispute in other threads, he actually has the most choke jobs in the history of the sport. By a large margin. Hence why the nickname "LeShrivel" became so widespread.

[3ba11]

Why tf are you so angry? A gamewinner and a dagger can be the same thing but they aren't always. He put the Heat up 2 scores with slightly more than one possession left on the clock, effectively ending the game. The dagger. And if you'd like to argue its importance here's the last minute 30 sec of game 7 for the title:

Lebron jumper to make it a 4 point lead
Lebron steal
Lebron sinks 2 ft
Lebron forces airball
Wade 1 of 2 ft,
Champs.

And yes only an idiot wouldn't admit Ray's shot was huge, I wouldn't call it a dagger tho, because it merely kept them alive rather than putting the game out of reach. Remember they went to overtime and never forget Lebron had a 16 point 4th to put them in position for that shot making almost all the plays to get them to that moment. Kyries shot was cold blooded as they come, but it made it a 3pt (one possession) game with the best and perhaps 2nd best 3 point shooters in NBA history having 50 sec.(2 possessions of game time). Lebron did also had a ft following kyries shot that also made that a 4 point (2 possession) game with 10 seconds left. I'm sure the truth is painful but its also undeniable.


^^^ nonsense.. the Heat didn't win with Lebron on the floor because he had a zero plus/minus for the series and a negative net rating..

He actually averaged 16 on 39% for the first 3 games while teammates staved off an 0-3 deficit.. It was 2011 all over again (23 on 43% thru 6 games) but Ray Allen saved and forever inflated his legacy