Pelicans will be a greater threat than the Wolves

[Proctor]

You heard it here first.

They've won 5 of 6, all against good teams. 2 of their best 4 players have been injured for some time and they just now got back Alvarado. Herb Jones and Ingram have missed time as well (and missed significant time last year). Zion has missed games due to rest and missed quite a lot of last year as well.

They're beating good teams comfortably while missing key players. Hawkins and Daniels have gotten reps as a result and Hawkins looks like a draft steal. When more of their starters return, they will now have an elite bench.

Barring an injury disaster (a significant injury to Ingram, Zion or CJ) I think they will be scarier than the Wolves in the playoffs. :rockon:

[Xiao Yao You]

Could use Greg Monroe though

[red1]

wolves aint shit


thunder are the real upcoming threat in the west

[warriorfan]

i agree with this. edwards is great but he’s not ready to put people on his back for a chip and go all the way, rudy will get exposed in the playoffs like always, KAT is still a beta cuck.

[Xiao Yao You]

i agree with this. edwards is great but he’s not ready to put people on his back for a chip and go all the way, rudy will get exposed in the playoffs like always, KAT is still a beta cuck.

Gobert won't have to guard 5 guys by himself. Amazing what happens when you have a good team around you

[red1]

sga chet and the rest of the okc roster > the wolves and pelicans

[Proctor]

i agree with this. edwards is great but he’s not ready to put people on his back for a chip and go all the way, rudy will get exposed in the playoffs like always, KAT is still a beta cuck.
Well said. :cheers:

Pelicans are super duper deep and have 3 legitimate weapons who don't wilt under pressure. Health is their only question mark

[GimmeThat]

Pelicans can't even swing the ball from one corner to the other

[Xiao Yao You]

Well said. :cheers:

Pelicans are super duper deep and have 3 legitimate weapons who don't wilt under pressure. Health is their only question mark

health is a pretty big question mark. Saying guys that can't even get into the playoffs won't wilt is quite a stretch even for a troll

[Proctor]

health is a pretty big question mark. Saying guys that can't even get into the playoffs won't wilt is quite a stretch even for a troll
What are you blabbering about? The Pelicans without Zion took the Suns to 6 games a couple years ago and accomplished far more than these healthy Wolves have. Pelicans have been handling the injuries that have popped up conservatively and what I'm saying is if their health gels for a playoff run they will yet again go farther than the Wolves. Even a Pelicans team with just 2 of the 3 of Zion/Ingram/CJ will probably go farther than the Wolves. :roll:

Their bench is elite. The Wolves is not. Towns and Gobert are soft. Edwards can't lift them all too far

[Xiao Yao You]

What are you blabbering about? The Pelicans without Zion took the Suns to 6 games a couple years ago and accomplished far more than these healthy Wolves have. Pelicans have been handling the injuries that have popped up conservatively and what I'm saying is if their health gels for a playoff run they will yet again go farther than the Wolves. Even a Pelicans team with just 2 of the 3 of Zion/Ingram/CJ will probably go farther than the Wolves. :roll:

Their bench is elite. The Wolves is not. Towns and Gobert are soft. Edwards can't lift them all too far

got to get in the play in to get further. Wolves are one of the top seeds at the moment and the top D in the league.

[SATAN]

Yikes.

[Hey Yo]

Could use Greg Monroe though

Another Georgetown alum.

[GimmeThat]

What are you blabbering about? The Pelicans without Zion took the Suns to 6 games a couple years ago and accomplished far more than these healthy Wolves have. Pelicans have been handling the injuries that have popped up conservatively and what I'm saying is if their health gels for a playoff run they will yet again go farther than the Wolves. Even a Pelicans team with just 2 of the 3 of Zion/Ingram/CJ will probably go farther than the Wolves. :roll:

Their bench is elite. The Wolves is not. Towns and Gobert are soft. Edwards can't lift them all too far

the Pelicans got played big time by the Gobert camp. back when the Jazz lost in the playoffs, the criticisms of Gobert's inaibility to stop premeter players flooded everywhere, now, he doesn't need to do that on the Wolves, but see what's gonna happen to Valančiūnas paired with McCollum who is a natural 2 when this happens.

they are missing the Trevor Ariza guy

[ImKobe]

If they could get BI Zion & CJ all healthy at the same time there would be a legitimate argument tbh but it doesn't seem like it's ever going to be the case. Pels need a trade.

[GimmeThat]

If they could get BI Zion & CJ all healthy at the same time there would be a legitimate argument tbh but it doesn't seem like it's ever going to be the case. Pels need a trade.

Nance Jr., Ryan + pick swaps for Derrick White

[Akeem34TheDream]

This is a decent take but i am high on both. These 2 teams are better than Kings and Thunder. Nuggets, Warriors, Lakers and Suns dont look so great. They are either injured a lot or don't have enough depth. We all know Clippers are a shtshow and will not be consistent. Mavericks are dangerous and will be a wild card. They are great at winning close games.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They are good when healthy but they've been together a few years now and never been healthy. Meanwhile Minnie had developed a strong defensive identity and has a legit superstar.

[Xiao Yao You]

the Pelicans got played big time by the Gobert camp. back when the Jazz lost in the playoffs, the criticisms of Gobert's inaibility to stop premeter players flooded everywhere, now, he doesn't need to do that on the Wolves, but see what's gonna happen to Valančiūnas paired with McCollum who is a natural 2 when this happens.

they are missing the Trevor Ariza guy

From what I've seen in the stuff posed around here he gets to play in the middle of the D where he can go out to the perimeter or fall back to the rim depending on the situation because everyone has bought in and he has other 7 footers at the rim and the perimeter to back him. Not trying to guard Mitchell and The Bum's guys too

[Baller234]

I have to say that of all the young players in the league, I am most impressed by Zion & Edwards.

Zion isn't fast per se but he can go from 0-60MPH like no one I've seen, and may actually have the softest touch around the rim I've ever seen. I can see him becoming an "unstoppable".

Edwards believe it or not gives me flashes of Jordan. Not sure if he has it between the ears, and sure he's not quite as refined, but he has the complete set of moves and also the athleticism to match. Unlike most of these wing guys who either drive or shoot 3's and that's it... he actually has the mid range game to go with it too. In terms of just pure talent I think I would even put him above Tatum.

Future is bright for both of those guys I think, really bright. IF they can keep it together (or stay healthy in Zion's case).

[GimmeThat]

From what I've seen in the stuff posed around here he gets to play in the middle of the D where he can go out to the perimeter or fall back to the rim depending on the situation because everyone has bought in and he has other 7 footers at the rim and the perimeter to back him. Not trying to guard Mitchell and The Bum's guys too

Dennis Rodman

[Xiao Yao You]

I have to say that of all the young players in the league, I am most impressed by Zion & Edwards.

Zion isn't fast per se but he can go from 0-60MPH like no one I've seen, and may actually have the softest touch around the rim I've ever seen. I can see him becoming an "unstoppable".

Edwards believe it or not gives me flashes of Jordan. Not sure if he has it between the ears, and sure he's not quite as refined, but he has the complete set of moves and also the athleticism to match. Unlike most of these wing guys who either drive or shoot 3's and that's it... he actually has the mid range game to go with it too. In terms of just pure talent I think I would even put him above Tatum.

Future is bright for both of those guys I think, really bright. IF they can keep it together (or stay healthy in Zion's case).

again the big difference between Edwards and Zion or most of the guys always getting talked about is he's playing elite D too

[Street Hunger]

Sounds POSSIBLE.

[SATAN]

lol

[ELITEpower23]

Yikes :lol

[Baller234]

Don't know if I should blame Willie Green or just the modern philosophy in general.

I don't know why this team doesn't play through Zion. The guy is a monster and can also create yet he barely touches the ball it seems. It's almost like he's plan B. I really don't get it. He should be creating opportunities for the shooters, not the other way around.

He is currently 3rd on his team in field goal attempts. This is inexcusable. He's not a rookie anymore. And before anyone says well he's playing limited minutes, he's only playing 3 less minutes than BI and CJ.

Is this a Zion problem? Should he be demanding the ball more? Or has everyone just gone brain dead?

[NBAGOAT]

Just kinda don’t like the zion/Ingram fit and adding a 3rd high usage in cj doesn’t help either. Their role players are really good when healthy so there’s a good team there but maybe a trade could be made

[GimmeThat]

Don't know if I should blame Willie Green or just the modern philosophy in general.

I don't know why this team doesn't play through Zion. The guy is a monster and can also create yet he barely touches the ball it seems. It's almost like he's plan B. I really don't get it. He should be creating opportunities for the shooters, not the other way around.

He is currently 3rd on his team in field goal attempts. This is inexcusable. He's not a rookie anymore. And before anyone says well he's playing limited minutes, he's only playing 3 less minutes than BI and CJ.

Is this a Zion problem? Should he be demanding the ball more? Or has everyone just gone brain dead?

if Hawkins/Murphy can relish the Reggie Miller role, and they work on their trap, I can see them beating out teams that hadn't been together as long as they do.

[iamgine]

Pels starting role players has taken a leap this season. Jonas and Herb has been great. CJ has also played great although on limited games.

For the wolves it's almost the opposite. Their star is the one taking a big leap this season. Ant has become a legit star player. And Gobert has found his groove back.

[GimmeThat]

Pels starting role players has taken a leap this season. Jonas and Herb has been great. CJ has also played great although on limited games.

For the wolves it's almost the opposite. Their star is the one taking a big leap this season. Ant has become a legit star player. And Gobert has found his groove back.

Pels is roughly playing 12 deep while the Wolves at 10. there really aren't many advantage to playing 12 deep outside of back to backs

[Manny98]

Neither are threats

The only teams that have a legitimate shot at coming out the West are Denver,Lakers and Dallas

The rest are fodder, the Warriors are washed up, Suns are soft, Minnesota don't have the versatility to adjust in a 7 game series, the Clippers chances ended the second they got Harden and the Pelicans don't have the veteran experience needed to win

[FireDavidKahn]

:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

What are you blabbering about? The Pelicans without Zion took the Suns to 6 games a couple years ago and accomplished far more than these healthy Wolves have. Pelicans have been handling the injuries that have popped up conservatively and what I'm saying is if their health gels for a playoff run they will yet again go farther than the Wolves. Even a Pelicans team with just 2 of the 3 of Zion/Ingram/CJ will probably go farther than the Wolves. :roll:

Their bench is elite. The Wolves is not. Towns and Gobert are soft. Edwards can't lift them all too far

Wolves aren't healthy:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

Pels is roughly playing 12 deep while the Wolves at 10. there really aren't many advantage to playing 12 deep outside of back to backs

Exactly. Come play off time rotations go to like 9 or 10.

[Proctor]

Wonder if Wolves fans had fun watching Zion bully them last night :roll:

[NBAGOAT]

pels are a bad matchup for some teams but no wolves will go farther. zion/ingram/cj fit is clunky as hell.

[RRR3]

Wonder if Wolves fans had fun watching Zion bully them last night :roll:
He always does this against Gobert. Rudy is simply too skinny to bother Zion in the paint.

[Taurus]

But surprised Zion's season high is only 36.

Then again I don't watch Pelicans games, how is he doing this season?

[SATAN]

But surprised Zion's season high is only 36.

Then again I don't watch Pelicans games, how is he doing this season?

This season he has earned a reputation for being a slob that can't rebound, run fast, pass well, be a disciplined athlete etc...The guy actually seems kinda weird. Something just doesn't seem right about him. Doesn't seem like a winner. But it's his life so whatever. Hopefully he figures it out.

[Manny98]

Feels like Zion always has a big night when Rudy is guarding him

[Xiao Yao You]

Feels like Zion always has a big night when Rudy is guarding him

and Gobert was guarding him? From what I've seen of the Wolves they are guarding as a team

[Manny98]

and Gobert was guarding him? From what I've seen of the Wolves they are guarding as a team

Gobert is the rim protector so he's responsible for Zion feasting inside that game

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert is the rim protector so he's responsible for Zion feasting inside that game

he's not always at the rim. let's see the actual numbers instead of just meaningless trolling for a change. Simmons scored 42 on him while going 3-7 with Gobert as his primary defender

[Proctor]

Where are the Wolves trolls?

:roll:

[FKAri]

Not on the basketball court but maybe at the buffet table.

[Manny98]

This thread aged like wine :applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

Where are the Wolves trolls?

:roll:

you mean besides you and Manny?

[Proctor]

It's happening

:banana: :hammertime::djparty

[FultzNationRISE]

Neither is a threat tbh but if they match up in round 1, even with home court for Minny I'd likely take Pels.

[1987_Lakers]

:lebronamazed::lebronamazed::lebronamazed:

[SATAN]

:roll::roll::roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

Oof :lol

[Proctor]

You heard it here first.

They've won 5 of 6, all against good teams. 2 of their best 4 players have been injured for some time and they just now got back Alvarado. Herb Jones and Ingram have missed time as well (and missed significant time last year). Zion has missed games due to rest and missed quite a lot of last year as well.

They're beating good teams comfortably while missing key players. Hawkins and Daniels have gotten reps as a result and Hawkins looks like a draft steal. When more of their starters return, they will now have an elite bench.

Barring an injury disaster (a significant injury to Ingram, Zion or CJ) I think they will be scarier than the Wolves in the playoffs. :rockon:
Yeah huge oof guys.

:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeHZjcTgzZXl6NWZsZW8zbHBwamVmam4 1bmlkYjhxa2plaW96dWYyNCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EHGl0TPOGxHhvWiata/giphy.gif

Owned them in the in-season tournament. Possibly knocked them out of the playoffs.

[Proctor]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeHZjcTgzZXl6NWZsZW8zbHBwamVmam4 1bmlkYjhxa2plaW96dWYyNCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EHGl0TPOGxHhvWiata/giphy.gif

Owned them in the in-season tournament. Possibly knocked them out of the playoffs.
https://i.postimg.cc/GtcWy3hW/1987lakersmidget.png

Anyone else?

:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

https://media.tenor.com/nwcB8mN5oK4AAAAM/lebron-lebronjames.gif

[kawhileonard2]

Pelicans will have gone from the 6th seed to out of the playoffs.

[kawhileonard2]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeHZjcTgzZXl6NWZsZW8zbHBwamVmam4 1bmlkYjhxa2plaW96dWYyNCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EHGl0TPOGxHhvWiata/giphy.gif

Owned them in the in-season tournament. Possibly knocked them out of the playoffs.

And Denver?

[BarberSchool]

Cruel bump!

[SATAN]

https://i.postimg.cc/GtcWy3hW/1987lakersmidget.png

Anyone else?

:roll:

Bad games yet they still won. Pelicans a threat? lol

[Proctor]

Cruel bump!
Meh, point was to degrade Minnesota more than prop up New Orleans.

Pelicans do have a very high ceiling but not if Zion is injured.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread. Would laugh if the Pelicans got in after all and both teams lost in the first round. This thread was made at peak Minny hype.

[RRR3]

I get that Zion got injured but with AD and LeBron not having good games it’s a game they should have won. Hopefully Zion is ok I think they will beat Kings/Warriors if he is. And Zion is a pretty serious mismatch for the skinny ass OKC frontcourt

[1987_Lakers]

They had no chance once this happened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhnart-A9js

[BarberSchool]

Meh, point was to degrade Minnesota more than prop up New Orleans.

Pelicans do have a very high ceiling but not if Zion is injured.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread. Would laugh if the Pelicans got in after all and both teams lost in the first round. This thread was made at peak Minny hype.no qiestion. Even if Towns were 100%, Minny has zero chance in a 7-game series versus Denver, Dallas, Boston.

[1987_Lakers]

Wolves looking like a big threat at the moment.

[SATAN]

Detective Proctor can't possibly be wrong. No way! :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Detective Proctor can't possibly be wrong. No way! :oldlol:

you do realize Zion got injured right?

We can hardly look at this statements truthfulness right now

[SATAN]

Having to rely on captain unreliable sounds like a dumb strategy.

[ArbitraryWater]

Having to rely on captain unreliable sounds like a dumb strategy.

Using this as some gotcha moment also looks pretty dumb.

[SATAN]

The guy specifically mentioned the Pelicans beating good teams even while missing key players and then went on to say they are a greater threat than the Wolves, but only if nobody is injured.

The thread is kinda redundant.

Did you expect Zion to be healthy right now?

[NBAGOAT]

wolves look like 2nd biggest threat in the west right now. I thought phx had a decent chance vs them and now they might blow up their team. edwards is likely frontrunner for best sg in league he's made the leap the team is deep and unbelievable on defense. gobert really proved himself this series

[jayfan]

Using this as some gotcha moment also looks pretty dumb.

The 'gotcha' isn't about the Pelicans losing. It's about Minnesota not losing.



Meh, point was to degrade Minnesota more than prop up New Orleans.

Pelicans do have a very high ceiling but not if Zion is injured.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread. Would laugh if the Pelicans got in after all and both teams lost in the first round. This thread was made at peak Minny hype.

[rawimpact]

Meh, point was to degrade Minnesota more than prop up New Orleans.

Pelicans do have a very high ceiling but not if Zion is injured.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread. Would laugh if the Pelicans got in after all and both teams lost in the first round. This thread was made at peak Minny hype.

You're still not coming to terms with his proneness?

[ArbitraryWater]

The guy specifically mentioned the Pelicans beating good teams even while missing key players and then went on to say they are a greater threat than the Wolves, but only if nobody is injured.

The thread is kinda redundant.

Did you expect Zion to be healthy right now?


Thats a completely different discussion (yes, I did btw) than acting like he was proven wrong now.

You now disagree with his stipulation, not his statement if stipulation holds up.

So you coming in here after a Timberwolves series win doesnt make any sense.

[FireDavidKahn]

You heard it here first.

They've won 5 of 6, all against good teams. 2 of their best 4 players have been injured for some time and they just now got back Alvarado. Herb Jones and Ingram have missed time as well (and missed significant time last year). Zion has missed games due to rest and missed quite a lot of last year as well.

They're beating good teams comfortably while missing key players. Hawkins and Daniels have gotten reps as a result and Hawkins looks like a draft steal. When more of their starters return, they will now have an elite bench.

Barring an injury disaster (a significant injury to Ingram, Zion or CJ) I think they will be scarier than the Wolves in the playoffs. :rockon:

Ain't no coming back from this one:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

Meh, point was to degrade Minnesota more than prop up New Orleans.

Pelicans do have a very high ceiling but not if Zion is injured.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread. Would laugh if the Pelicans got in after all and both teams lost in the first round. This thread was made at peak Minny hype.

Damn, you double downed on this thread after months of humiliation.

You got a humiliation kink or something?

[FireDavidKahn]

no qiestion. Even if Towns were 100%, Minny has zero chance in a 7-game series versus Denver, Dallas, Boston.

Zero!

:roll:

[Proctor]

Damn, you double downed on this thread after months of humiliation.

You got a humiliation kink or something?

Can you read or are you ESL too like 1987_Retard?

:roll: :facepalm


You heard it here first.

They've won 5 of 6, all against good teams. 2 of their best 4 players have been injured for some time and they just now got back Alvarado. Herb Jones and Ingram have missed time as well (and missed significant time last year). Zion has missed games due to rest and missed quite a lot of last year as well.

They're beating good teams comfortably while missing key players. Hawkins and Daniels have gotten reps as a result and Hawkins looks like a draft steal. When more of their starters return, they will now have an elite bench.

Barring an injury disaster (a significant injury to Ingram, Zion or CJ) I think they will be scarier than the Wolves in the playoffs. :rockon:

[tontoz]

Zion's injury isn't the reason why the wolves swept a healthy Suns team. :oldlol:

[Proctor]

Zion's injury isn't the reason why the wolves swept a healthy Suns team. :oldlol:
Correct...but color me impressed when they get past the second round and not just stomp all over an identity-less soft joke of a Suns team.

Don't think it's much of a stretch to think a healthy Pelicans team would have been a nightmare matchup for OKC - you see Jonas bullying Chet, imagine Zion in that series.

Point of this thread was to predict the Pelicans would go farther/win more games in the playoffs than the Wolves. I was expecting Zion would be healthy and the Wolves would falter in the second round (which they could being that their next opponent is Denver) Not an unreasonable take but obviously not going to look great when Zion is out and the Wolves are sweeping.

:confusedshrug:

[FireDavidKahn]

Can you read or are you ESL too like 1987_Retard?

:roll: :facepalm

You admitted this thread was about Minny losing vs. Pelicans being good. It's a very thinly veiled Wolves hate thread and you readily admit it.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Yikes

[SATAN]

You admitted this thread was about Minny losing vs. Pelicans being good. It's a very thinly veiled Wolves hate thread and you readily admit it.

"Minnesnowta" as you call them are not going far and that was the point of the thread.

:yaohappy:

[NBAGOAT]

yea this was insane even at time. The pelicans "big 3" had a negative net rating this year, they just dont fit and ingram and cj arent that good. other guys on the team were great but not enough to carry them to be a contender.

Edit: glad to see i got one prediction right. I was calling out the fit issues early

[tontoz]

Correct...but color me impressed when they get past the second round and not just stomp all over an identity-less soft joke of a Suns team.

Don't think it's much of a stretch to think a healthy Pelicans team would have been a nightmare matchup for OKC - you see Jonas bullying Chet, imagine Zion in that series.

Point of this thread was to predict the Pelicans would go farther/win more games in the playoffs than the Wolves. I was expecting Zion would be healthy and the Wolves would falter in the second round (which they could being that their next opponent is Denver) Not an unreasonable take but obviously not going to look great when Zion is out and the Wolves are sweeping.

:confusedshrug:


So now you are officially colored. :lol