Best playoff scorers of all time?

[StrongLurk]

I'm going with this list below.

1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Kareem
5. Shaq

[3ba11]

I'm going with this list below.

1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Kareem
5. Shaq


Everyone on there had dynasties except Lebron, so that means his scoring isn't that good and yields weaker teams.. It's not like he had weaker help

and in many ways he had the most comprehensive help ever such as HOF sidekicks from every position on floor, aka HOF PG, SG, PFs, C - yet no dynasty like all the other guys on your list

btw, in the history of basketball, only 1 guy won while leading the league in usage, so 1 guy's scoring was a full dimension superior to anyone else.. tbh, the best combination of usage/ortg = best scorer ever

[StrongLurk]

Everyone on there had dynasties except Lebron, so that means his scoring isn't that good and yields weaker teams.. It's not like he had weaker help

and in many ways he had the most comprehensive help ever such as HOF sidekicks from every position on floor, aka HOF PG, SG, PFs, C - yet no dynasty like all the other guys on your list

btw, in the history of basketball, only 1 guy won while leading the league in usage, so 1 guy's scoring was a full dimension superior to anyone else.. tbh, the best combination of usage/ortg = best scorer ever

Lebron has the second most FMVPs on that list and by far the most points while having a very high PPG over a massive amount of games.

So yeah, he belongs on their without question.

Also when did Durant have a dynasty again?

[RRR3]

3ball is a retarded useless troll

[3ba11]

Lebron has the second most FMVPs on that list and by far the most points while having a very high PPG over a massive amount of games.

So yeah, he belongs on their without question.

Also when did Durant have a dynasty again?


Durant was on the only team that people say could f*ck with MJ's Bulls (who didn't lose 3 games in a row for 9 years from 90-98')

So his unicorn skillset can yield a goat team.. :confusedshrug:

Otoh, the Luka skillset that Lebron has isn't capable of a great team regardless of cast - see his weak regular season records, perennial underdog status and needing more help all year, or horrific Finals records as ample evidence..

So take your pick - his skillset simply yields teams that underperform the on-paper talent and literally fall from preseason favorite to underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16'), except the Allen miracle.

[StrongLurk]

Durant was on the only team that people say could f*ck with MJ's Bulls (who didn't lose 3 games in a row for 9 years from 90-98')

So his unicorn skillset can yield a goat team.. :confusedshrug:

Otoh, the Luka skillset that Lebron has isn't capable of a great team regardless of cast - see his weak regular season records, perennial underdog status and needing more help all year, or horrific Finals records as ample evidence..

So take your pick - his skillset simply yields teams that underperform the on-paper talent and literally fall from preseason favorite to underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16'), except the Allen miracle.

So no dynasty for Durant, got it.

[3ba11]

So no dynasty for Durant, got it.


Lebron + AD = weak team*

Lebron + Wade/Bosh = record choke and record loss*

Lebron + Kyrie/Love = barely 50-win teams and 4-1 loss in 2017 (kyrie's 40 prevented sweep)*
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CONCLUSION: Despite better help for over 2 decades than Durant had, Lebron never had a team anywhere near Durant's GSW.. again, anywhere near and KD took Westbrick to Finals and was favored over Lebron's veteran super-team.


* perennial underdog

[StrongLurk]

Lebron + AD = weak team*

Lebron + Wade/Bosh = record choke and record loss*

Lebron + Kyrie/Love = barely 50-win teams and 4-1 loss in 2017 (kyrie's 40 prevented sweep)*
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CONCLUSION: Despite better help for over 2 decades than Durant had, Lebron never had a team anywhere near Durant's GSW.. again, anywhere near and KD took Westbrick to Finals and was favored over Lebron's veteran super-team.


* perennial underdog

No team is better than the 2017 Warriors. They are the best and most stacked team of all time. "Durant" didn't make them that level by himself...but you know that and just can't help but troll or hate on Lebron.

CONCLUSION: If Lebron did not have a dynasty on the Heat, then Durant did not have a dynasty on the Warriors.

[Full Court]

Lebron has the second most FMVPs on that list and by far the most points while having a very high PPG over a massive amount of games.

So yeah, he belongs on their without question.

Also when did Durant have a dynasty again?

Lebron has the most post season choke jobs in the history of the sport too. So you have to factor that in.

[StrongLurk]

Lebron has the most post season choke jobs in the history of the sport too. So you have to factor that in.

You're whole thread was debunked. The "percentage" of actual "chokes" Lebron has had was identical to MJ. What that means is Lebron also has a lot more "non-chokes" than MJ.

Compare it like an assist to turnover ratio.

In this example, Lebron has 5 turnovers and MJ only has 3. BUT, Lebron also has 10 assists to MJ's 6. So the ratio is the same. You can't just look at the turnovers and ignore the assists.

Case closed again.

[Full Court]

You're whole thread was debunked. The "percentage" of actual "chokes" Lebron has had was identical to MJ. What that means is Lebron also has a lot more "non-chokes" than MJ.

Compare it like an assist to turnover ratio.

In this example, Lebron has 5 turnovers and MJ only has 3. BUT, Lebron also has 10 assists to MJ's 6. So the ratio is the same. You can't just look at the turnovers and ignore the assists.

Case closed again.

No, it wasn't debunked at all.

Lebron has a FAR higher percentage of chokes than Jordan did, and I proved it. Don't believe the low IQ deniers who try to skew stats. "Bu-bu-bu-bu-but most of Lebron's chokes weren't ACTUALLY chokes. Of course, we can't even define a choke, but we're going to say that those weren't."

That kind of argument doesn't wash in the real world.

[1987_Lakers]

You're whole thread was debunked. The "percentage" of actual "chokes" Lebron has had was identical to MJ. What that means is Lebron also has a lot more "non-chokes" than MJ.

Compare it like an assist to turnover ratio.

In this example, Lebron has 5 turnovers and MJ only has 3. BUT, Lebron also has 10 assists to MJ's 6. So the ratio is the same. You can't just look at the turnovers and ignore the assists.

Case closed again.

Debunked by me. :cheers:

[RRR3]

I think the saddest part about Full Court's efforts is that even other LeBron haters like bison regard him as a moron.

[Duffy Pratt]

Jerry West belongs above Shaq, Kareem, and LeBron.

[StrongLurk]

Jerry West belongs above Shaq, Kareem, and LeBron.

I wanted to include him, and I have no problem putting up 5th honestly. It's just hard to measure scoring ability from way back then. I can give Kareem a nod because at least he played in the 3 point era and was a good scorer even at old age.