Can someone explain the Cup troply MVP award decision again?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Anthony Davis: 2 personal fouls, 4 turnovers, 41 points, 20 roubounds, 5 assists on 66.7% shooting.
Lebron’s stats: 5 personal fouls, 6 turnovers, 24 points, 11 rebounds 4 assists on 47.6% shooting.

Explain how AD didn't deserve the cup MVP again? I'm serious. Would you be happy if you were him after dominating with even more assists, 41 pts & 20 boards?

[NBAGOAT]

The mvp is for all 7 games not just the final game you doofus

[Keno]

The mvp is for all 7 games not just the final game you doofus

/thread.

mfer doesn't know the rules and making threads.

kobe and jordan stans gonna be salty for a while

[SouBeachTalents]

The mvp is for all 7 games not just the final game you doofus
:oldlol:

It's actually wild he wasn't able to reach this obvious conclusion on his own.

[Axe]

Thread title: Can someone explain the Cup troply MVP award decision again?
:roll:

[red1]

you'll be alright OP :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

They made it clear during the game that the MVP was for the entire tournament. OP embarrassing himself.

[sdot_thadon]

Oh wow, they only clarified it 20.times towards the end of the game lol.

[RRR3]

So this is 100% 3ball's alt right? Showed up to meltdown at the exact same time, only hates on LeBron...

[SaltyMeatballs]

:facepalm

[Keno]

So this is 100% 3ball's alt right? Showed up to meltdown at the exact same time, only hates on LeBron...

:oldlol: so true

[ELITEpower23]

You know you're in trouble when you're bringing up personal foul totals :lol


GOTTEM

[ELITEpower23]

So this is 100% 3ball's alt right? Showed up to meltdown at the exact same time, only hates on LeBron...

Duh. I've been saying it.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

The mvp is for all 7 games not just the final game you doofus

So they give out Finals MVP awards for how well you did in the first round for the real playoffs? Oh wait, you doofus, they don't.

Here's the juggernauts the Lakers beat to get the cup:
Portland Trailblazers: 6 - 15 | 14th in Western
Memphis Grizzlies: 6 - 15 | 13th in Western
Utah Jazz: 7 - 15 | 12th in Western
Phoenix Suns (x2) 12 - 10 | 7th in Western
New Orleans Pelicans 12 - 11 | 10th in Western
Indiana Pacers 12 - 8 | 5th in Eastern
No true NBA fans count any of this. The Pacers, had they won, I would not have counted in their storied franchise of never winning a chip.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

You know you're in trouble when you're bringing up personal foul totals :lol


GOTTEM

They're part of the stats, and add to the overall part of the game. Sorry to make such an intellect like yourself have to spend so long reading my novel.

[1987_Lakers]

:cry:

:lol

[Hey Yo]

So they give out Finals MVP awards for how well you did in the first round for the real playoffs? Oh wait, you doofus, they don't.

Here's the juggernauts the Lakers beat to get the cup:
Portland Trailblazers: 6 - 15 | 14th in Western
Memphis Grizzlies: 6 - 15 | 13th in Western
Utah Jazz: 7 - 15 | 12th in Western
Phoenix Suns (x2) 12 - 10 | 7th in Western
New Orleans Pelicans 12 - 11 | 10th in Western
Indiana Pacers 12 - 8 | 5th in Eastern
No true NBA fans count any of this. The Pacers, had they won, I would not have counted in their storied franchise of never winning a chip.

LOL @ Shookquille

[3ba11]

MJ would never be GOAT if pippen had carried him like this in the championship game - MJ is goat specifically because he was never carried like this - 41 to 24 points with more rebounds and assists and less turnovers?... MJ was never carried like that - only Lebron has teammates match or exceed his averages for title runs...

Wade, AD and Kyrie either matched or led Lebron in PPG for 2011, 2016 and 2020 runs, while MJ led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career (except three where he led by 9, 8, and 4 ppg)

[Axe]

MJ would never be GOAT if pippen had carried him like this in the championship game - MJ is goat specifically because he was never carried like this - 41 to 24 points with more rebounds and assists and less turnovers?... MJ was never carried like that - only Lebron has teammates match or exceed his averages for title runs...

Wade, AD and Kyrie either matched or led Lebron in PPG for 2011, 2016 and 2020 runs, while MJ led Pippen by 10-30 ppg in every series of their career (except three where he led by 9, 8, and 4 ppg)
Any chance you are familiar with what the word 'elevation' means?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

This wasn't a title run though. No championship ring or Finals MVP trophy is involved in this December Saturday.
All this does is make true NBA fans who were watching in the 80's no longer interested in the sport.

This isn't greatness. This isn't impressive. No matter how many FS1 & ESPN analysts talk about how great it is. It just isn't.

[red1]

This wasn't a title run though. No championship ring or Finals MVP trophy is involved in this December Saturday.
All this does is make true NBA fans who were watching in the 80's no longer interested in the sport.

This isn't greatness. This isn't impressive. No matter how many FS1 & ESPN analysts talk about how great it is. It just isn't.

everything's gonna be alright son


I know it was a tough night :(

[8Ball]

This wasn't a title run though. No championship ring or Finals MVP trophy is involved in this December Saturday.
All this does is make true NBA fans who were watching in the 80's no longer interested in the sport.

This isn't greatness. This isn't impressive. No matter how many FS1 & ESPN analysts talk about how great it is. It just isn't.

This MVP enhanced LeBron's legacy quite a bit.

[SATAN]

everything's gonna be alright son


I know it was a tough night :(

:lol

[NBAGOAT]

So they give out Finals MVP awards for how well you did in the first round for the real playoffs? Oh wait, you doofus, they don't.

Here's the juggernauts the Lakers beat to get the cup:
Portland Trailblazers: 6 - 15 | 14th in Western
Memphis Grizzlies: 6 - 15 | 13th in Western
Utah Jazz: 7 - 15 | 12th in Western
Phoenix Suns (x2) 12 - 10 | 7th in Western
New Orleans Pelicans 12 - 11 | 10th in Western
Indiana Pacers 12 - 8 | 5th in Eastern
No true NBA fans count any of this. The Pacers, had they won, I would not have counted in their storied franchise of never winning a chip.

The ist mvp and fmvp are different awards. You think the ist should follow the same criteria as fmvp, too bad your opinion means Jack shit only the nbas opinion matter. Again you watch the game even or just cry after reading the box score because lebron won :lol. Also I never said the IST mattered nice non sequitor. Again proving you’re one of the biggest cretins on ish

[3ba11]

Any chance you are familiar with what the word 'elevation' means?


They were already stars before joining Lebron - Kyrie, Love, Bosh, Wade, and AD - they were already stars, while Jordan had to grow single-digit rookies into meaningful producers (Pippen, Grant, BJ)...

Lebron has never done this - he's never developed young players in 21 years because his skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically)

[SATAN]

The ist mvp and fmvp are different awards. You think the ist should follow the same criteria as fmvp, too bad your opinion means Jack shit only the nbas opinion matter. Again you watch the game even or just cry after reading the box score because lebron won :lol. Also I never said the IST mattered nice non sequitor. Again proving you’re one of the biggest cretins on ish

:oldlol:

[3ba11]

No matter how many FS1 & ESPN analysts talk about how great it is. It just isn't.


boom

and the few smart people out there know this

[RRR3]

boom

and the few smart people out there know this
You're literally quoting your own alt :roll:

[Axe]

They were already stars before joining Lebron - Kyrie, Love, Bosh, Wade, and AD - they were already stars, while Jordan had to grow single-digit rookies into meaningful producers (Pippen, Grant, BJ)...

Lebron has never done this - he's never developed young players in 21 years because his skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically)
Lmao phil jackson, his co-coaches and the triangle system developed jordan's supporting cast. Not jordan himself. You can also thank jerry krause for going after pippen before instead of the nobody he tried vouching for to be one of his teammates.

[SATAN]

Lmao phil jackson, his co-coaches and the triangle system developed jordan's supporting cast. Not jordan himself. You can also thank jerry krause for going after pippen before instead of the nobody he tried vouching for to be one of his teammates.

Always good to see real Bulls fans putting delusional MJ stans in their place. :applause:

[3ba11]

Lmao phil jackson, his co-coaches and the triangle system developed jordan's supporting cast. Not jordan himself. You can also thank jerry krause for going after pippen before instead of the nobody he tried vouching for to be one of his teammates.


1988 Pippen........ 7 ppg (no triangle)
1989 Pippen...... 14 ppg (no triangle)


so Pippen was already growing by leaps and bounds before the triangle - his advanced metrics also grew by leaps and bounds, whereas guys like Kuzma and Ingram saw 1-year drops across the board alongside Lebron in 2019 (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP)

Jordan is the goat off-guard and his off-ball game put the ball in Pippen's hands, and then bailed him out if needed - this developed ball-handlers like Pippen and BJ, whereas Lebron's ball-dominant skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically)

[1987_Lakers]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA9en0Da8AAHlD_?format=jpg&name=small

[NBAGOAT]

boom

and the few smart people out there know this

the relevant point is lebron has looked the best he has since pre solomon hill injury and thats even with coasting. The IST showed a glimpse of how good he can be in the playoffs when he's locked in and some other teams like indiana treated the IST like a mini playoffs and were locked in too. With AD healthy, if the role players can stay healthy/be better or pelinka makes a nice trade the lakers are a threat for the title. You and OP know this and that's what worries you.

Boston is the only team that I think LA has little chance vs but they have some injury and consistency issues and lebron losing to a team that loaded wont be the stain you'll try to make it seem like. They added 2 all stars to their duo and derrick white is maybe the greatest "role player" of all time and playing like an all star too. even denver is lowkey worse this year(aaron gordon forgot how to shoot, bench is bad, jokic not as efficient). Murray could go off in the playoffs and porter will likely be better but no guy in history who plays around the lvl of murray during regular season(fringe all star) has played well in the playoffs every year

[Axe]

1988 Pippen........ 7 ppg (no triangle)
1989 Pippen...... 14 ppg (no triangle)


so Pippen was already growing by leaps and bounds before the triangle - his advanced metrics also grew by leaps and bounds, whereas guys like Kuzma and Ingram saw 1-year drops across the board alongside Lebron in 2019 (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP)

Jordan is the goat off-guard and his off-ball game put the ball in Pippen's hands, and then bailed him out if needed - this developed ball-handlers like Pippen and BJ, whereas Lebron's ball-dominant skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically)
55 wins and advanced past the first round.

That's all you need to know.

[3ba11]

55 wins and advanced past the first round.

That's all you need to know.


playoff embarrassment and borderline .500 the next year, so pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty in less than 18 months

any team with pippen as the best player will fall out of contention QUICKLY due to lack of talent, even a 3-peat dynasty like we saw in 1995 before MJ returned to restore 3-peat caliber

[Axe]

55 wins and advancing past the first round

V
V
V

30-40 wins and losing in the first round & 37 wins while also missing the playoffs

[Nb1]

You know you're in trouble when you're bringing up personal foul totals :lol


GOTTEM

Honestly at this point they might aswell start talking how many steps Lebron does on the floor :roll:

Total meltdowns :oldlol:

[red1]

I've been bodybagging 3ball with ease

I asked him what the best team jordan ever beat was - he said the utah jazz


so jordan had the most stacked team in the league (pippen's bulls won 55-games without jordan)



and he was beating up on mormons and grocery baggers - not one dynasty in sight :oldlol:

[red1]

thats why he's so obsessed with pointing out lebron's "failures" and pointing out how "overrated" pippen was


its because all of his arguments fall apart when you realize how stacked the bulls were and it completely and utterly destroys 3ball's narrative of jordan "carrying any team to the finals and going 6 for 6"



bro was on the most stacked team in the league of his era - BY FAR :oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

They're part of the stats, and add to the overall part of the game. Sorry to make such an intellect like yourself have to spend so long reading my novel.

Gottem spinnin hard when they're mentioning personal foul totals :roll::roll: