Lebron has won less than expected literally everywhere he's been [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

3ba11

12-10-2023, 05:01 PM

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* 2/4 with Wade

* 1/4 with Love

* 1/4 with AD

* 0/7 with organic route, aka Big Z, Mo, Jamison, Hughes, HOF coach and top defenses

^^^ who can't go 1/4 with AD, Love or Wade?.. This is nowhere near GOAT

And it's a reflection of today's low class society that a chronic loser is advertised as a winner and gets compared to the greatest winner of the modern era.

His 1/4 record at each stop confirms that he isn't capable of 3-peat, dynasty or 6 chips no matter who we put around him, aka objectively inferior to MJ..

The instant MJ got 1 all-star, he didn't lose 3 straight games for 9 years, while Lebron routinely gets swept or historic loss with multiple all-star teammates.

SouBeachTalents

12-10-2023, 05:04 PM

Jesus Christ :roll:

All this over an in-season tournament.

RRR3

12-10-2023, 05:05 PM

Jesus Christ :roll:

All this over an in-season tournament.
Imagine if LeBron wins again he’ll probably destroy his house.

Hey Yo

12-10-2023, 05:05 PM

:crazysam:

:blah

:sleeping

ShawkFactory

12-10-2023, 05:06 PM

My oh my :lol

Hey Yo

12-10-2023, 05:13 PM

Dude has to be on the payroll.... noone cares this much when it doesn't physically affect them whatsoever.

Axe

12-10-2023, 05:14 PM

Can't deal with peja anymore so op just creates new threads to cope harder.

sdot_thadon

12-10-2023, 05:19 PM

Well he's definitely won your devotion in the most twisted display of love I've ever seen.

3ba11

12-10-2023, 07:42 PM

Imagine if LeBron wins again he’ll probably destroy his house.

Not remotely worried because as the tourney just showed, it's AD-ball when it really matters - Bron was 2nd fiddle.. a "pippen".. So Lebron cannot win FMVP..... and AD's FMVP will be the type of clear-cut signal that Ledummies need to realize that bron ain't anywhere near 6 FMVP (goat).

1987_Lakers

12-10-2023, 07:44 PM

LeBron is the only player to win FMVP for 3 different teams.

3ba11

12-10-2023, 07:58 PM

LeBron is the only player to win FMVP for 3 different teams.

So should he get a cookie for being good enough to be 1st option on 3 teams?

Is that what you're saying?.. Because he would have far more FMVP's if he was better at actually winning.. His poor championship frequency (half of Mike's) is the issue

at this point, he's had a bigger sample of time with quality help than nearly anyone else in the top 10, yet the large sample of time has confirmed that he isn't capable of having teams that are anywhere near MJ's, Curry's, Bird's, Duncan's, Kobe's, Russell's, or Magic's - so that's a big sample of guys, that Lebron isn't capable of beating

And I'll throw Wilt in there because he was losing to the same team every year, while Lebron has horrific records vs many teams (Warriors, Spurs, Mavs, Magic)..

1987_Lakers

12-10-2023, 08:02 PM

So should he get a cookie for being good enough to be 1st option on 3 teams?

Is that what you're saying?.. Because he would have far more FMVP's if he was better at actually winning.. His poor championship frequency (half of Mike's) is the issue

at this point, he's had a bigger sample of time with quality help than nearly anyone else in the top 10, yet the large sample of time has confirmed that he isn't capable of having teams that are anywhere near MJ's, Curry's, Bird's, Duncan's, Kobe's, Russell's, or Magic's - so that's a big sample of guys, that Lebron isn't capable of beating

And I'll throw Wilt in there because he was losing to the same team every year, while Lebron has horrific records vs many teams (Warriors, Spurs, Mavs, Magic)..

I remember you saying LeBron wouldn't win FMVP when the Lakers traded for AD, he proved you wrong.

You lose.

3ba11

12-10-2023, 08:07 PM

I remember you saying LeBron wouldn't win FMVP when the Lakers traded for AD, he proved you wrong.

You lose.

Nice try but I would never bet against LeMedia like that - I assumed AD would get robbed by Lebron's cronies in the media and blamed for everything or made to look worse than Lebron..

AD got no credit for leading the Lakers for the entire playoffs and dominating Jokic, so he was "that guy" that deserved FMVP and I haven't even spoken of his defensive impact that turned the Lakers defense from worst to first and lottery to champion... You remember that Lebron couldn't even lose in the 1st Round like MJ without Pippen - he was LOTTERY without king davis... or hughes (05' hughes > 90' pippen.. and also mike brown)

1987_Lakers

12-10-2023, 08:10 PM

Nice try but I would never bet against LeMedia like that - I assumed AD would get robbed by Lebron's cronies in the media and blamed for everything or made to look worse than Lebron.

I forgot, you called AD "bird fed", then quickly changed your narrative and called him Kareem once you realized it was best for your agenda.

You lose.

Wally450

12-10-2023, 08:13 PM

Sad state of affairs here. My goodness man, just relax. Its okay.

3ba11

12-10-2023, 08:16 PM

I forgot, you called AD "bird fed", then quickly changed your narrative and called him Kareem once you realized it was best for your agenda.

You lose.

bball 101 - all big men are bird-fed and some are also great (AD, Kareem, Duncan, etc) - a big can be both

1987_Lakers

12-10-2023, 08:22 PM

bball 101 - all big men are bird-fed and some are also great (AD, Kareem, Duncan, etc) - a big can be both

You called AD a loser

"Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers." - 3ball

1987_Lakers

12-10-2023, 08:24 PM

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475176-AD-is-shedding-light-on-Kareem-s-career-amp-ranking-imo-(new-all-time-rankings-inside)

3ba11

12-10-2023, 08:29 PM

You called AD a loser

"Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers." - 3ball

This need for greater help is why I have the best bigs in history behind the best perimeter players in history - the best perimeter players in history needed less help to have great teams (Curry, MJ, Kobe).. btw, I consider Lebron to be technically a big man that decided to dominate the ball (takes the worst aspect of perimeter players) - he's certainly like a big man in that he needs perimeter "closers" such as Wade, Kyrie, or I would imagine Reaves will be that guy for this team.. I also think Lebron is going to break down once he turns 39 but that's just a hunch soi tuck that away.. and not so much breakdown but start playing worse.

StrongLurk

12-10-2023, 09:48 PM

OP has been a loser everywhere he's been

AussieSteve

12-10-2023, 10:46 PM

The thing is though, Lebron didn't have the same advantage that MJ had, in playing in a league of exclusively 1-star teams, while himself being on the only 2-superstar team.

I mean, my goodness... the year Jordan retired, Pippen received the most All-NBA votes AND the most All-D votes of any player in the entire league.

Give that sidekick to any superstar in history, playing in a league where the other top players' 2nd options are Hersey Hawkins and Kenny Smith, and they win every time.

ILLsmak

12-10-2023, 10:50 PM

I used to think dude was trolling, but I dunno. I guess he's creating content.

-Smak

sdot_thadon

12-10-2023, 11:31 PM

You should have posted the proper thread title:

Lebron has won, literally everywhere he's been.

No one else besides Kareem was able to chip in multiple cities as the best player. Lebron has in 3 and also has been to the finals in every tenure of his career. Cleveland, Miami, Cleveland, Los Angeles coast to coast success. How'd Mike do in Washington? Oh nevermind the goat wasn't even expected to win raffle let alone make the playoffs in his 14th and 15th(lol) season meanwhile Lebron was facing perhaps the best team ever in the finals. Lebron at 22 Washington the finals, apparently expected to win because Mj stans use it against him, meanwhile Mj at 22 couldn't be bothered to win a single playoff game......

Axe

12-10-2023, 11:34 PM

red1

12-11-2023, 12:17 AM

OP really trying to convince us that 4/10 is bad when playing a dynasy 7/10 times (played the spurs and warriors a combined 7 times - baldan didnt play a team this good even ONCE in the finals)

lebron actually overachieved because he was only favored by vegas in 3 of those 10 finals due to injuries and playing stacked teams - he literally overachieved by 33%:

https://www.tsn.ca/being-the-underdog-is-not-uncommon-for-lebron-in-the-nba-finals-1.1097756

meanwhile the best team jordan ever beat was the utah jazz - thats in OP's own words :oldlol:

red1

12-11-2023, 12:20 AM

Ive bodybagged OP so many times that I lost count. my argument going back A DECADE was that lebron was (already) top-2 of all time and OP was arguing that he wasnt even top 10, said KG and moses malone rank higher

OP always hyping up baldans rings over mormons and grocery baggers

meanwhile lebron scalped two dynasties and was 2/2 in both of those game 7s when both teams were at equal strength - jordan didnt beat a single team as decorated an in their prime (spurs AND warriors)

https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

red1

12-11-2023, 12:22 AM

steve kerr in 2018 was the final nail in the coffin - said lebron and baldan were 1a 1b

thats a former baldan teammate that helped baldan win a ring and won more rings later with the spurs and warriors, aka the most reliable source - we're not talking about pippen holding a grudge here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG8wjJNdf4&ab_channel=ESPN

red1

12-11-2023, 12:24 AM

jordan had the most stacked team in the league by far

won 55-games (!!!!!) and went game 7, 2nd round without him:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1994.html

not only was he beating up on weak competition, he had the most stacked team in the league BY FAR

players would kill for a team that stacked (pippen, kukoc, grant, steve kerr who was the best shooter in the league at that time)

red1

12-11-2023, 12:27 AM

I used to think jordan was undisputed number 1 but I swear to god reading 3balls arguments and seeing skips arguments on tv literally convinced me otherwise. now I think it might actually be a complete toss-up.

lebron cant hit a freethrow nor can he shoot nearly as well as baldan but he would absolutely ragdoll and destroy the competition of the late 80s and 90s

OP is literally insane to argue otherwise.

red1

12-11-2023, 12:30 AM

look at these pictures - this is who 3ball is saying lebron cant score on - meanwhile jordan had the best defender in the league on his team

get real and be serious 3ball - you really telling me 6'9 270lb lbj who even skip admits is the GOAT at getting to the rim and the highest IQ in the league - you really saying he cant score on these midgets?

especially when you have rodman to tussle with karl malone?:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/6b/c4/ab6bc4db8bba391cedc05921807e4537.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

red1

12-11-2023, 12:42 AM

OP always makes bullshit arguments like "lebron's style of play was suboptimal and thats why they lost" and wont acknowledge why he was wrong after 4 rings "hurr durr ray and kyrie"

will say lebron lost due to suboptimal playstyle and wont acknowledge that lebron was literally playing 1 on 5

then he'll come back with "hurr but 2011 he lost with dwyane wade and best player in the league bosh"

yes he did. first year my boy. your point?

also has the only finals MVP in nba history over a 70+win team :oldlol:

best player in the league regular season playoffs AND finals 8x (2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020)

4x MVP and 4x finals MVP

hurr durr what a loser didnt win playing 1 on 5 and always luck the many (4x) times he won durr

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/4/750x445/966830.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTEgQ4eUsAAoA24.jpg
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Qs52wQZDVUJntmm6OH-wwDF4bx4=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19882606/celticsbron.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MTkwNzczODIyNjI5NzYx/lebron-james-cavaliers-warriors-2015-nba-finals-game-1jpg.jpg

Full Court

12-11-2023, 12:43 AM

OP always makes bullshit arguments like "lebron's style of play was suboptimal and thats why they lost" and wont acknowledge why he was wrong after 4 rings "hurr durr ray and kyrie"

will say lebron lost due to suboptimal playstyle and wont acknowledge that lebron was literally playing 1 on 5

then he'll come back with "hurr but 2011 he lost with dwyane wade and best player in the league bosh"

yes he did. first year my boy. your point?

also has the only finals MVP in nba history over a 70+win team :

hurr durr what a loser didnt win playing 1 on 5 and always luck the many (4x) times he won durr

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/4/750x445/966830.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTEgQ4eUsAAoA24.jpg
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Qs52wQZDVUJntmm6OH-wwDF4bx4=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19882606/celticsbron.jpg
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MTkwNzczODIyNjI5NzYx/lebron-james-cavaliers-warriors-2015-nba-finals-game-1jpg.jpg

^Fragile boy can throw bitch fits all he wants, but the fact remains that fringe top 10 LeShrivel has the most choke jobs of all time. :confusedshrug:

red1

12-11-2023, 12:47 AM

You called AD a loser

"Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers." - 3ball

he's retarded.

literally flipflopped on everything.

said curry was great and propped him up to trash lbj "hurr durr organic rings" no acknowledging that kyrie and love were out, leGOAT literally playing 1 on 5

then starting trashing him the exact moment he won his 2nd MVP in 2016 73-wins, and people said he might be on the same tier offensively as mj :oldlol:

kid is a ****ing nutcase. Its fun bodybagging him again. :oldlol:

red1

12-11-2023, 12:48 AM

^Fragile boy can throw bitch fits all he wants, but the fact remains that fringe top 10 LeShrivel has the most choke jobs of all time. :confusedshrug:

who are you?

sorry I dont speak spamming ******. :oldlol:

Full Court

12-11-2023, 01:46 AM

who are you?

sorry I dont speak spamming ******. :oldlol:

This is a classic case of

BITCH FIT

:roll:

Full Court

12-11-2023, 01:47 AM

red1

12-11-2023, 02:24 AM

This is a classic case of

BITCH FIT

:roll:

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