HEATED Moments in the NBA: 80'S, 90'S

[bdonovan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKQWaUBOdVA

A different era.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKQWaUBOdVA

[bdonovan]

The difference back then is very few were saying "suspend him for LIFE!1!1!" when any of these things happened.

[FKAri]

Are you arguing that those plays are OK? Was MJ a bitch to complain about the Pistons to the league?

I have a very different view from most on this. I'm OK with hard fouls that make a play on the ball. I think the league is too strict on this. I agree that there should be some limits for player safety but their too strict as is. But I'm not OK with even the softest foul that is unarguably a non-basketball play. And taunting/talking/insulting/gestures should be OK unless it's something unbelievably egregious. Players should be able to taunt/hotdog/yell whatever for the most part.

[Baller234]

Everyone remembers the famous shot on Rambis from McHale during the '84 finals.

Very few talk about what happened the next game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9704A_bBGz8

With Maxwell on the fast break, Worthy pushes him from behind while he is mid-air. Maxwell could have been severely hurt. Meanwhile the players scuffled for about two minutes and then the game resumed as normal. Nobody was ejected.

Not saying it was better or worse this way... but wow what a difference a few decades make. If that happened today the game would have been on hold for 15 minutes and Worthy might have been suspended the rest of the series.

Shit even McHale wasn't suspended for his hit on Rambis.

[FKAri]

Everyone remembers the famous shot on Rambis from McHale during the '84 finals.

Very few talk about what happened the next game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9704A_bBGz8

With Maxwell on the fast break, Worthy pushes him from behind while he is mid-air. Maxwell could have been severely hurt. Meanwhile the players scuffled for about two minutes and then the game resumed as normal. Nobody was ejected.

Not saying it was better or worse this way... but wow what a difference a few decades make. If that happened today the game would have been on hold for 15 minutes and Worthy might have been suspended the rest of the series.

Shit even McHale wasn't suspended for his hit on Rambis.

The league is much more aware of and aims to control, public perception.

[GimmeThat]

makes you realize how small a country the United States been

[ArbitraryWater]

The difference back then is very few were saying "suspend him for LIFE!1!1!" when any of these things happened.


Are you retarded?


Its cause it wasnt 1 dude doing it over and over

[bdonovan]

Everyone remembers the famous shot on Rambis from McHale during the '84 finals.

Very few talk about what happened the next game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9704A_bBGz8

With Maxwell on the fast break, Worthy pushes him from behind while he is mid-air. Maxwell could have been severely hurt. Meanwhile the players scuffled for about two minutes and then the game resumed as normal. Nobody was ejected.

Not saying it was better or worse this way... but wow what a difference a few decades make. If that happened today the game would have been on hold for 15 minutes and Worthy might have been suspended the rest of the series.

Shit even McHale wasn't suspended for his hit on Rambis.


The McHale clothesline of Rambis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNWBfs7v_tY

It's true; fans didn't respond with hysteria like "he was trying to hurt him!!" and push for suspension.

There was an element of physicality in the NBA that was allowed and wasn't over-policed through lengthy suspensions like today.

Even as recent as 2000, Chris Childs only got a 2 game suspension for punching Kobe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4SVYUYNgKw). Just squared up and punched him in the jaw in the middle of the court while the play was going on. 2 games.

I wonder if a reasonable middle ground could be found. It's how the Hegelian Dialectic works- we move from one extreme to another before we find some reasonable middle ground. Maybe society is going through that with the NBA.

Since the NBA is a product sold to the people, it will take the shape of what the people want. Today, people feel fear more quickly than back then. It makes them react emotionally and hysterically. I also see people online being quick to call everything "assault", not quite understanding what meets the DA threshold with all else they are prosecuting.

I do wonder if a generation playing computer games and slamming their controller every time they fail, with parents who scream to the principal instead of them learning to defend themselves, just creates a posturing fake tough guy who thinks they're masculine until they see someone who actually is, and then they lose their mind trying to get the "authorities" to restrict this scary individual.

If Draymond, Isiah Stewart, LeBron or someone like that did that clothesline slam to a Doncic or Jokic, all hell would break loose today.

Karens is a gendered term but we're all like that today. We're all trying to speak to the manager to deal with someone that makes us uncomfortable.

Maybe the tolerance for physicality back then was too much but our panic today also isn't ideal.

[warriorfan]

It is funny how people complain about this era being soft then whine about draymond in the same sentence. However if i’m trying to be 100% objective. Dray has always been a bit out of control but he’s been spiraling further recently. Incidents are happening more and more frequently. Dray has said multiple times he flat out doesn’t care and won’t change. He has more money than he could ever spend, he’s a 4 time champion and future hall of famer, there’s nothing you can really do to impact him besides kicking him out of the league. So if him getting booted out of the league is off the table, the man has nothing to lose and has a difficult time controlling his explosive temper, that’s a dangerous combination. Add that with his frustration levels growing as he battles father time and declines more athletically everyday. We don’t want Dray pulling a Kermit Washington out here. If the league didn’t or doesn’t continue to step in we could very well see something like that happen.

[Duffy Pratt]

Are you retarded?


Its cause it wasnt 1 dude doing it over and over

Did you ever watch Bill Laimbeer???