L.J. is the best there has ever been. He does more than anyone to help his teams win.

[ELITEpower23]

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[warriorfan]

u weird bro

[Akeem34TheDream]

I disagree

[Full Court]

Laughable.




2007 game 1 against Detroit. 10 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 2 against Detroit. 19 points on 37% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against the Spurs. 14 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

2008 game 1 against Boston. 12 points and 10 turnovers on 11% shooting. 0/6 from three. LOSS.

Game 2 against Boston. 21 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Boston. 21 points on 31% shooting.

Game 4 against Boston. 21 points on 35% shooting.

2009 game 3 against Orlando. He scored 41 points, but on absolutely horrendous efficiency. 39% shooting and 1/8 from three. LOSS. Someone should have made him stop shooting.

2010 game 5 against Boston. 15 points on 21% shooting!!! LOSS. The series was tied 2-2 until that game. That Lebron choke put the Cavs down 3-2, and they went on to lose the series.

2011 game 1 against Philadelphia. 21 points on 29% shooting.

Game 5 against Philadelphia. 16 points on 39% shooting.

Game 3 against Boston. 15 points on 38% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against Chicago. 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Finals against Dallas. Most epic choke job of all time. Game 3, 17 points.

Game 4, 8 points on 27% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5, 17 points. LOSS.

Game 6, 21 points and 6 turnovers. LOSS.

2013 game 2 against San Antonio. 17 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against San Antonio, 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5 against San Antonio, 25 points on 36% shooting. LOSS.

2014 game 5 against Indiana. 7 points on 20% shooting. Whooaaaaaaaa! LOSS.

2015 game 1 against Chicago. 19 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 6 against Chicago. 15 points on 30% shooting.

Game 4 against Golden State. 20 points on 32% shooting.

2016 game 3 against Detroit. 20 points on 33% shooting.

Game 2 against Golden State. 19 points on 42% shooting. LOSS.

2017 game 3 against Boston. 11 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2018 game 1 against Indiana. 24 points on 41% shooting. 0% from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Boston. 15 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2020 game 2 against Portland. 10 points on 36% shooting.

Game 1 against Houston. 20 points. LOSS.

Game 4 against Houston. 16 points on 41% shooting.

Game 1 against Denver. 15 points.

2021 game 1 against Phoenix. 18 points on 46% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Phoenix. 21 points and 7 turnovers on 47% shooting.

Game 6 against Phoenix. 29 points on 11/26 shooting. ELIMINATION.

2023 game 5 against Memphis. 15 points on 29% shooting. 1-9 from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Golden State. 22 points on 38% shooting. 1-8 from three.

Game 2 against Denver. 22 points. 0-6 from three. LOSS.

Game 4 against Denver. Wasted multiple possessions in 4th quarter, missed key shots, and blew the game-tying shot in the last possession. SWEPT.

[bison]

Lebron is the best there is, the best there was and the best there will ever be!

[3ba11]

"More things to help his team win" is specifically measured by PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48, plus/minus, raptor and they all say that MJ did more to help teams win.

Ultimately, Lebron offers teams an inferior brand of ball and low ball movement, low assist teams, not capable of #1 offense, lower strategic capacity/coaching, excessive ball-dominance and imposition of spot-up roles, weak chemistry, bad teammate fits, and zero young player development into meaningful producers..

these things yield weaker teams, records and perennial underdogs or losers on the championship level, aka 4/10

[SATAN]

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100%. Well said.

[sportjames23]

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What happened last night, Ralph? :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

Laughable.




2007 game 1 against Detroit. 10 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 2 against Detroit. 19 points on 37% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against the Spurs. 14 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

2008 game 1 against Boston. 12 points and 10 turnovers on 11% shooting. 0/6 from three. LOSS.

Game 2 against Boston. 21 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Boston. 21 points on 31% shooting.

Game 4 against Boston. 21 points on 35% shooting.

2009 game 3 against Orlando. He scored 41 points, but on absolutely horrendous efficiency. 39% shooting and 1/8 from three. LOSS. Someone should have made him stop shooting.

2010 game 5 against Boston. 15 points on 21% shooting!!! LOSS. The series was tied 2-2 until that game. That Lebron choke put the Cavs down 3-2, and they went on to lose the series.

2011 game 1 against Philadelphia. 21 points on 29% shooting.

Game 5 against Philadelphia. 16 points on 39% shooting.

Game 3 against Boston. 15 points on 38% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against Chicago. 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Finals against Dallas. Most epic choke job of all time. Game 3, 17 points.

Game 4, 8 points on 27% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5, 17 points. LOSS.

Game 6, 21 points and 6 turnovers. LOSS.

2013 game 2 against San Antonio. 17 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against San Antonio, 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5 against San Antonio, 25 points on 36% shooting. LOSS.

2014 game 5 against Indiana. 7 points on 20% shooting. Whooaaaaaaaa! LOSS.

2015 game 1 against Chicago. 19 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 6 against Chicago. 15 points on 30% shooting.

Game 4 against Golden State. 20 points on 32% shooting.

2016 game 3 against Detroit. 20 points on 33% shooting.

Game 2 against Golden State. 19 points on 42% shooting. LOSS.

2017 game 3 against Boston. 11 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2018 game 1 against Indiana. 24 points on 41% shooting. 0% from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Boston. 15 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2020 game 2 against Portland. 10 points on 36% shooting.

Game 1 against Houston. 20 points. LOSS.

Game 4 against Houston. 16 points on 41% shooting.

Game 1 against Denver. 15 points.

2021 game 1 against Phoenix. 18 points on 46% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Phoenix. 21 points and 7 turnovers on 47% shooting.

Game 6 against Phoenix. 29 points on 11/26 shooting. ELIMINATION.

2023 game 5 against Memphis. 15 points on 29% shooting. 1-9 from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Golden State. 22 points on 38% shooting. 1-8 from three.

Game 2 against Denver. 22 points. 0-6 from three. LOSS.

Game 4 against Denver. Wasted multiple possessions in 4th quarter, missed key shots, and blew the game-tying shot in the last possession. SWEPT.


Based. :applause:

[1987_Lakers]

What happened last night, Ralph? :oldlol:

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[3ba11]

does he offer a #1 offense?.. great teammate fits with everyone??... young player development into meaningful producers??

no.. no and no... Lebron-ball has never had a #1 offense in 21 years, while he has a long list of bad fits and virtually zero young players developed into meaningful producers on his watch in 2 decades.

Accordingly, Lebron offers a team abnormal ball-dominance for his size/position, which imposes spot-up roles that prevents young player development, #1 offenses, high assist teams, good teammate fits, and elite strategic capacity/coaching.. Consequently, he has weak team records and perennial underdogs or losers on the championship level, regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to tons of guys.

[Full Court]

Was I the only one who opened this thread thinking it was about Larry Johnson?

[And1AllDay]

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issssa

:rockon:

biiiiig

:djparty

wraaaaap

:dancin :dancin

[Bacchus]

Lebron has played with two teammates that made the all-star game the year they played with Lebron in 5 different seasons. Yet has only 4 rings to show for it
Jordan never played on a team that had 2 all-stars in the same season and has 6 rings

[ArbitraryWater]

Thats a pretty fair summary tbh

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron has played with two teammates that made the all-star game the year they played with Lebron in 5 different seasons. Yet has only 4 rings to show for it
Jordan never played on a team that had 2 all-stars in the same season and has 6 rings

Yeah but Jordans opponents were also 1 ATG + fringe all-star, while leBron lost 3 rings to the Warriors.

[Carbine]

does he offer a #1 offense?.. great teammate fits with everyone??... young player development into meaningful producers??

no.. no and no... Lebron-ball has never had a #1 offense in 21 years, while he has a long list of bad fits and virtually zero young players developed into meaningful producers on his watch in 2 decades.

Accordingly, Lebron offers a team abnormal ball-dominance for his size/position, which imposes spot-up roles that prevents young player development, #1 offenses, high assist teams, good teammate fits, and elite strategic capacity/coaching.. Consequently, he has weak team records and perennial underdogs or losers on the championship level, regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to tons of guys.

And yet with all that said he won as much as anyone during his era. Go figure.

[Full Court]

"Does more than anyone to help his teams."

:lol

Well, he did lead a super team to the lottery. So if you call that helping his team, then sure.


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"I did that."

[SaltyMeatballs]

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No lies told.