Pay Up Rudy

[Lakers Legend#32]

https://www.politicususa.com/2023/12/15/148-million-giuliani-defamation-verdict-is-a-big-warning-to-trump-and-the-gop.html?fbclid=IwAR116F5iQ0mpoxtrl6hravXvGPRY1bID 01SiB7WS3Ob3UzeiRo5MmvMLeco

$148 million Rudy defamation verdict is a huge warning to Trump and the GOP

[GimmeThat]

if the GOP got to determine how much a hand job goes, even Ben Franklin can't keep that inflation down

[Real Men Wear Green]

Alex Jones isn't paying and this asshole won't either. What assets Gillian has are likely hidden with friends and relatives.

[Jasper]

huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVtDcC1_5Jc

[Wardell Curry]

Alex Jones isn't paying and this asshole won't either. What assets Gillian has are likely hidden with friends and relatives.

Don't make me defend Alex Jones but how could he? He was ordered to pay $1.4 billion. He doesn't have that kind of money and he wouldn't earn it over multiple lifetimes at today's numbers.

I'd be curious if anyone could break this down for me, how something like this works. Is he supposed to not eat or have a home and just 100% of his income goes to the plaintiffs? I honestly don't know. I understand that the plaintiffs proposed a lesser agreement but $1.4 billion was still the judge's verdict.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Don't make me defend Alex Jones but how could he? He was ordered to pay $1.4 billion. He doesn't have that kind of money and he wouldn't earn it over multiple lifetimes at today's numbers.

I'd be curious if anyone could break this down for me, how something like this works. Is he supposed to not eat or have a home and just 100% of his income goes to the plaintiffs? I honestly don't know. I understand that the plaintiffs proposed a lesser agreement but $1.4 billion was still the judge's verdict.

It is basically a financial "go to hell." When a judge gives this kind of penalty they don't concern themselves with what the guilty party can afford. What sucks in cases like these is that I doubt Jones or Giuliani are going to pay anything significant at all. And what he did to those two women is especially vile. They are never going to feel safe again, every time they see someone that they think might be MAGA they will experience fear. And we're talking about two women here, one of whom is an old woman on top of that. Giuliani deserves to be homeless, frankly.

[Wardell Curry]

It is basically a financial "go to hell." When a judge gives this kind of penalty they don't concern themselves with what the guilty party can afford.

That's absolutely braindead and it sounds like a judge being emotional rather than a judge doing what judges should do which is be fair and practical. Such a verdict would lead me to believe they are much less likely to get anything than a verdict based on what he could actually afford to pay them.

[Real Men Wear Green]

That's absolutely braindead and it sounds like a judge being emotional rather than a judge doing what judges should do which is be fair and practical. Such a verdict would lead me to believe they are much less likely to get anything than a verdict based on what he could actually afford to pay them.

What is "fair" after he ruined these women's lives? They get death threats. Imagine your mother and/or grandmother getting frequent threats of physical violence from random strangers. How do you think they would handle it? If one of these nuts pulls an attack like what happened to Pelosi does he not bear responsibility? Now putting an exact dollar figure on this damage is hard, but to that end they brought in an expert that estimated that just to repair the damage to their reputations, not factoring in any kind of penalty, would cost 47 million. Which Guiliani wouldn't have either. Personally I only feel bad for the ladies that won't be getting this money after the harassment they have endured. Why does Guiliani deserve any sympathy? He ruined these women's lives when they had done nothing to him whatsoever. Not that they would deserve this if they were but they aren't even political figures. They are a pair of innocent poll workers. But we should feel bad for the lying idiot madman that failed to help steal an election?

[Wardell Curry]

What is "fair" after he ruined these women's lives? They get death threats. Imagine your mother and/or grandmother getting frequent threats of physical violence from random strangers. How do you think they would handle it? If one of these nuts pulls an attack like what happened to Pelosi does he not bear responsibility? Now putting an exact dollar figure on this damage is hard, but to that end they brought in an expert that estimated that just to repair the damage to their reputations, not factoring in any kind of penalty, would cost 47 million. Which Guiliani wouldn't have either. Personally I only feel bad for the ladies that won't be getting this money after the harassment they have endured. Why does Guiliani deserve any sympathy? He ruined these women's lives when they had done nothing to him whatsoever. Not that they would deserve this if they were but they aren't even political figures. They are a pair of innocent poll workers. But we should feel bad for the lying idiot madman that failed to help steal an election?

It's not about being fair to Alex. It's about being fair to the families and not being so shortsighted and emotional that you fail to understand that if you put a number on someone so large that they can't pay it in multiple lifetimes, they won't pay anything. Why would they?

I mean why not just shoot the guy in the head? It's basically the same thing.

I'm not even talking about Rudy, I haven't looked at what is going on there for a fraction of a second.

[Baller234]

What is "fair" after he ruined these women's lives? They get death threats. Imagine your mother and/or grandmother getting frequent threats of physical violence from random strangers. How do you think they would handle it? If one of these nuts pulls an attack like what happened to Pelosi does he not bear responsibility? Now putting an exact dollar figure on this damage is hard, but to that end they brought in an expert that estimated that just to repair the damage to their reputations, not factoring in any kind of penalty, would cost 47 million. Which Guiliani wouldn't have either. Personally I only feel bad for the ladies that won't be getting this money after the harassment they have endured. Why does Guiliani deserve any sympathy? He ruined these women's lives when they had done nothing to him whatsoever. Not that they would deserve this if they were but they aren't even political figures. They are a pair of innocent poll workers. But we should feel bad for the lying idiot madman that failed to help steal an election?

What a buffoon you are.

Literally every prominent person in politics and media gets death threats. Tucker Carlson gets death threats. Ben Shapiro. Matt Walsh. Candace Owens. I wonder if that has anything to do with the left wing pundits and their legions of fans who portray them as evil genocidal nazis.

You've devolved into some caricature of a TDS troll. I knew you were dumb and biased but I don't even recognize you after this post anymore. You've gone mental. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's not about being fair to Alex. It's about being fair to the families and not being so shortsighted and emotional that you fail to understand that if you put a number on someone so large that they can't pay it in multiple lifetimes, they won't pay anything. Why would they?

I mean why not just shoot the guy in the head? It's basically the same thing.

I'm not even talking about Rudy, I haven't looked at what is going on there for a fraction of a second.

Shooting him in the head may not be a bad idea but unfortunately it's illegal.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What a buffoon you are.

Literally every prominent person in politics and media gets death threats. Tucker Carlson gets death threats. Ben Shapiro. Matt Walsh. Candace Owens. I wonder if that has anything to do with the left wing pundits and their legions of fans who portray them as evil genocidal nazis.

You've devolved into some caricature of a TDS troll. I knew you were dumb and biased but I don't even recognize you after this post anymore. You've gone mental. :oldlol:

You always have an insane, stupid opinion. I guess that makes you consistent.

[Off the Court]

Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook families are actually about to settle now. They asked for $85m to wipe his debt, he came back with $55m. He'll probably pay in the middle.

It's like a jail sentence. You get 25 years then only end up doing 5.

They'll both pay something, just not the enormous amount sentenced to them.

[Off the Court]

What a buffoon you are.

Literally every prominent person in politics and media gets death threats. Tucker Carlson gets death threats. Ben Shapiro. Matt Walsh. Candace Owens. I wonder if that has anything to do with the left wing pundits and their legions of fans who portray them as evil genocidal nazis.

You've devolved into some caricature of a TDS troll. I knew you were dumb and biased but I don't even recognize you after this post anymore. You've gone mental. :oldlol:

Completely different. Tucker, Candice, etc chose their careers. If someone accused them of rigging they'd take it to court.

Not to mention the entire logic of "they get death threats therfor all death threats mean nothing" is retarded in itself.

[Patrick Chewing]

What is "fair" after he ruined these women's lives? They get death threats. Imagine your mother and/or grandmother getting frequent threats of physical violence from random strangers. How do you think they would handle it? If one of these nuts pulls an attack like what happened to Pelosi does he not bear responsibility? Now putting an exact dollar figure on this damage is hard, but to that end they brought in an expert that estimated that just to repair the damage to their reputations, not factoring in any kind of penalty, would cost 47 million. Which Guiliani wouldn't have either. Personally I only feel bad for the ladies that won't be getting this money after the harassment they have endured. Why does Guiliani deserve any sympathy? He ruined these women's lives when they had done nothing to him whatsoever. Not that they would deserve this if they were but they aren't even political figures. They are a pair of innocent poll workers. But we should feel bad for the lying idiot madman that failed to help steal an election?

What a White Knight Liberal crybaby this guy is. :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Alex Jones and the Sandy Hook families are actually about to settle now. They asked for $85m to wipe his debt, he came back with $55m. He'll probably pay in the middle.

It's like a jail sentence. You get 25 years then only end up doing 5.

They'll both pay something, just not the enormous amount sentenced to them.

What a country. Ruined by the likes of people like you. Imagine making millions because your feelings were hurt. But hey, it works both ways. I'm sure your Liberal clown ass mocked Nicholas Sandman and he took your boys CNN and MSNBC to the cleaners.

[Off the Court]

What a country. Ruined by the likes of people like you. Imagine making millions because your feelings were hurt. But hey, it works both ways. I'm sure your Liberal clown ass mocked Nicholas Sandman and he took your boys CNN and MSNBC to the cleaners.

If you think the country is "ruined" because basement dwellers on Twitter convinced you. Well you are free to
leave. :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

If you think the country is "ruined" because basement dwellers on Twitter convinced you. Well you are free to
leave. :oldlol:

The country is ruined because Liberals like you ruined it. Tell me what are some of the positives of this country right now under Democrat leadership.

[Off the Court]

The country is ruined because Liberals like you ruined it. Tell me what are some of the positives of this country right now under Democrat leadership.

We have the highest standard of living in the world.

Instead of playing victim to liberals all day maybe try to enjoy what you have before its gone.

[Patrick Chewing]

We have the highest standard of living in the world.

Instead of playing victim to liberals all day maybe try to enjoy what you have before its gone.

Freudian slip?? :oldlol:

[RRR3]

We have the highest standard of living in the world.

Instead of playing victim to liberals all day maybe try to enjoy what you have before its gone.
We absolutely don't, dafuq. It's not solely because of the Democrats of course, but they don't help (although not for the reasons conservatives think).

[Off the Court]

We absolutely don't, dafuq. It's not solely because of the Democrats of course, but they don't help (although not for the reasons conservatives think).

Average wealth per citizen is 2nd only behind Switzerland.

And it looks like all of the countries that can be argued over the US are even more liberal EU countries.

meanwhile the most conservative countries (the middle east) are the biggest shit holes on the planet.

[RRR3]

Average wealth per citizen is 2nd only behind Switzerland.

And it looks like all of the countries that can be argued over the US are even more liberal EU countries.

meanwhile the most conservative countries (the middle east) are the biggest shit holes on the planet.
Why would you look at average wealth? That number is heavily propped up by people like Musk and Bezos. At least 40% of people in America live paycheck to paychek.

[Off the Court]

Why would you look at average wealth? That number is heavily propped up by people like Musk and Bezos. At least 40% of people in America live paycheck to paychek.

How many live paycheck to paycheck elsewhere?

Look I agree the US maybe isn't the no-brainer #1, especially from certain angles like Healthcare where we pay huge. But regardless of that our standard of living is high generally speaking. Our poor people are fat because they are overfed. Look at Chewing for example.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What a White Knight Liberal crybaby this guy is. :roll:
We can't all be evil assholes like you and Guiliani.

[Patrick Chewing]

We can't all be evil assholes like you and Guiliani.

Evil is going after $150 million or billions in emotional damage.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Evil is going after $150 million or billions in emotional damage.

They are getting death threats from lunatics like yourself you idiot. He and Trump accused them of stealing the election. This is obvious and talking to you is pointless, so my bad. Congratulations on defining the term "hopelessly stupid. "

[Patrick Chewing]

They are getting death threats from lunatics like yourself you idiot. He and Trump accused them of stealing the election. This is obvious and talking to you is pointless, so my bad. Congratulations on defining the term "hopelessly stupid. "


LOL @ "death threats". When did you become such a bitch?? You should try to sue me for wanting to break a violin over your head. I'll send you a bag of shit instead.

[Off the Court]

LOL @ "death threats". When did you become such a bitch?? You should try to sue me for wanting to break a violin over your head. I'll send you a bag of shit instead.

Imagine being this upset over Rudy's wealth :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Imagine being this upset over Rudy's wealth :roll:

I'm not the one suing him or creating a thread on a message board.

[Off the Court]

I'm not the one suing him or creating a thread on a message board.

You're in here throwing a temper tantrum over Rudy's money.

Your day is ruined now. The whole country is ruined.

Poor you, liberals ruined your life.

Don't worry though, everyone else is a bitch, not you. You're tuff, you can handle anything life throws at you. Except for gay people.

[Patrick Chewing]

You're in here throwing a temper tantrum over Rudy's money.

Your day is ruined now. The whole country is ruined.

Poor you, liberals ruined your life.

Don't worry though, everyone else is a bitch, not you. You're tuff, you can handle anything life throws at you. Except for gay people.


Liberals are ruining the country. But no Liberal will ruin my life because Liberals are beneath me. They are scum.

[Real Men Wear Green]

LOL @ "death threats". When did you become such a bitch?? You should try to sue me for wanting to break a violin over your head. I'll send you a bag of shit instead.

We can't all be tough guys that pick on old women. But we can anyways make fun of you. No one thinks you're capable of anything. You're an impotent fatass. If you actually had to make good in your threats I would be in more danger of dying of boredom than anything you would do. Because you won't do anything.

[Patrick Chewing]

We can't all be tough guys that pick on old women. But we can anyways make fun of you. No one thinks you're capable of anything. You're an impotent fatass. If you actually had to make good in your threats I would be in more danger of dying of boredom than anything you would do. Because you won't do anything.

You're an old racist White cracker that I would happily put in their place given the opportunity. As a matter of fact, I'll be visiting relatives in Boston in April. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and pick a meeting spot.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You're an old racist White cracker that I would happily put in their place given the opportunity. As a matter of fact, I'll be visiting relatives in Boston in April. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and pick a meeting spot.

Do you promise to bathe? Not that I believe you're coming to Boston. No one would want to see you.

[Patrick Chewing]

Do you promise to bathe? Not that I believe you're coming to Boston. No one would want to see you.

I'll be there. Pick your favorite bar. First round's on me.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'll be there. Pick your favorite bar. First round's on me.

I'm not getting roofied by your weird ass.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm not getting roofied by your weird ass.

Is that what happens to you when you go out? You might want to stop going to gay bars.


Don't be a coward. I'll be there in April.

[BurningHammer]

Is that what happens to you when you go out? You might want to stop going to gay bars.


Don't be a coward. I'll be there in April.
You 101% won't. :roll:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie thinks death threats are all fun and games.

[bladefd]

Don't make me defend Alex Jones but how could he? He was ordered to pay $1.4 billion. He doesn't have that kind of money and he wouldn't earn it over multiple lifetimes at today's numbers.

I'd be curious if anyone could break this down for me, how something like this works. Is he supposed to not eat or have a home and just 100% of his income goes to the plaintiffs? I honestly don't know. I understand that the plaintiffs proposed a lesser agreement but $1.4 billion was still the judge's verdict.

It's forcing someone to declare bankruptcy for doing something extremely corrupt and egregious to deserve it.

Although I think jail time would be more appropriate. The reason is someone like Giuliani can swindle folks by giving speeches at alt-right conventions (like the Republican one coming up in July) for obscene sums of money. He is never truly going broke, and it's just a financial reset for them. He will continue to push the same conspiracy nonsense that pleases alt-right, and you know they will keep lining up & giving their money to corrupt scumbag like Rudy.

[Patrick Chewing]

You 101% won't. :roll:

I will, nerd. Let's see if the racist prick shows up. So far, it looks like he's a keyboard warrior. Like all of you are really.

[bladefd]

Imagine being this upset over Rudy's wealth :roll:

One would have to be complete scum to defend scum like Giuliani.

[Wardell Curry]

To be clear I believe that Sandy Hook happened. I also think that Alex Jones' coverage of it was predatory.

However, nobody can convince me that guy Robbie Parker didn't dramatize his feelings for the camera. The shift in faces he puts up in fractions of a second indicates to me that guy has something seriously wrong and probably very dark going on inside his head.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I will, nerd. Let's see if the racist prick shows up. So far, it looks like he's a keyboard warrior. Like all of you are really.

When Poopsie calls someone else a racist.:roll:

[Jasper]

I'll be there. Pick your favorite bar. First round's on me.

patsy you looking for another gay bar in Boston to get another one of your girl/guys ??

Boston is clean not like your fat ass NY area

[BurningHammer]

Guiliani has filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-seeks-bankruptcy-148-million-174401355.html

:ohwell:

[Jasper]

Guiliani has filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-seeks-bankruptcy-148-million-174401355.html

:ohwell:

Giuliani is a sucker... to Trumps mentality

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bankruptcy won't protect him from this judgement. They won't be getting the 148mil from him but legal analysts on TV I see are saying they will get something, even though it may be a small fraction.

[bladefd]

Bankruptcy won't protect him from this judgement. They won't be getting the 148mil from him but legal analysts on TV I see are saying they will get something, even though it may be a small fraction.

Bankruptcy will not only reset Rudy's finances but the 148mill fine too lol. He will soon be back to giving speeches and making appearances for 100k apiece.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bankruptcy will not only reset Rudy's finances but the 148mill fine too lol. He will soon be back to giving speeches and making appearances for 100k apiece.

He can make those speeches and appearances but they will be getting the money that comes of them. It's not a dischargeable debt.

https://www.findlaw.com/bankruptcy/what-is-bankruptcy/ask-a-lawyer--can-bankruptcy-clear-lawsuit-judgments-.html


However, bankruptcy will not eliminate judgments stemming from non-dischargeable debt.

That means a bankruptcy discharge can't clear judgments stemming from one of the following types of non-dischargeable debt:

Child support or alimony/spousal support
Student loans, unless there is undue hardship
Some kinds of taxes
Criminal fines or restitution
Drunk driving-related debt
Two additional types of debt are generally considered non-dischargeable and not removed by bankruptcy. These two kinds of debts are those relating to:

Willful or malicious injury
Money, goods, or services obtained by fraud

[Real Men Wear Green]

What they can't take is the stuff he given away to friends and family to own in his behalf. No way of knowing how much of that he's done. But, for example, if/when he sells that NYC condo? Those ladies will be collecting. And if for heaven knows what reason someone thinks it's worth paying him 100Gs to talk? They collect.

[Nanners]

Bankruptcy won't protect him from this judgement. They won't be getting the 148mil from him but legal analysts on TV I see are saying they will get something, even though it may be a small fraction.

"legal analysts on TV are saying" :roll:

no doubt the legal analysts on TV are saying that "the walls are closing in", and "its the beginning of the end"

[warriorfan]

"legal analysts on TV are saying" :roll:

no doubt the legal analysts on TV are saying that "the walls are closing in", and "its the beginning of the end"

:roll:

i can imagine him eating a huge bag of potato chips while watching cnn thinking “it’s finally happening!”

[Nanners]

:roll:

i can imagine him eating a huge bag of potato chips while watching cnn thinking “it’s finally happening!”

he has been sitting in front of CNN with his bag of chips telling himself and anyone that will listen that "its finally happening" for the past 8 fvcking years :oldlol:

[Baller234]

Completely different. Tucker, Candice, etc chose their careers. If someone accused them of rigging they'd take it to court.

Not to mention the entire logic of "they get death threats therfor all death threats mean nothing" is retarded in itself.

Wtf? Isn't that the foundation for RMRG's entire argument? That _____ is a bad person because they said things that caused other people to receive death threats?

If you really want to play that game, you might as well sue every single political pundit and media personality there is. Everyone prominent in media and politics both right and left has said something misleading that caused someone else to receive death threats from random weirdos.

God knows how many angry and lonely mongrels are whipped into a frenzy every night because left wing news is telling them their next door neighbor is an evil nazi who hates minorities and wants slavery to come back.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You don't seem to understand what the word "defamation" means. Given the way you routinely make up something someone didn't say and then argue with it that's not surprising.

[SATAN]

You don't seem to understand what the word "defamation" means. Given the way you routinely make up something someone didn't say and then argue with it that's not surprising.

:yaohappy:

[bladefd]

He can make those speeches and appearances but they will be getting the money that comes of them. It's not a dischargeable debt.

https://www.findlaw.com/bankruptcy/what-is-bankruptcy/ask-a-lawyer--can-bankruptcy-clear-lawsuit-judgments-.html

Really? I always thought that bankruptcy clears you of fines.

So I guess he will be paying this fine off for the rest of his life.

[Baller234]

You don't seem to understand what the word "defamation" means. Given the way you routinely make up something someone didn't say and then argue with it that's not surprising.

What do you mean you didn't say it? It's right there in your post.


What is "fair" after he ruined these women's lives? They get death threats. Imagine your mother and/or grandmother getting frequent threats of physical violence from random strangers. How do you think they would handle it? If one of these nuts pulls an attack like what happened to Pelosi does he not bear responsibility? Now putting an exact dollar figure on this damage is hard, but to that end they brought in an expert that estimated that just to repair the damage to their reputations, not factoring in any kind of penalty, would cost 47 million. Which Guiliani wouldn't have either. Personally I only feel bad for the ladies that won't be getting this money after the harassment they have endured. Why does Guiliani deserve any sympathy? He ruined these women's lives when they had done nothing to him whatsoever. Not that they would deserve this if they were but they aren't even political figures. They are a pair of innocent poll workers. But we should feel bad for the lying idiot madman that failed to help steal an election?

What is it with the left wing posters on this board and this autistic habit of denying their own claims?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

[Real Men Wear Green]

You said it was the foundation of my argument. He just lost a defamation lawsuit you dumb ass.

[ILLsmak]

Really? I always thought that bankruptcy clears you of fines.

So I guess he will be paying this fine off for the rest of his life.

kinda saw it coming, but it's also wack they made him bankrupt himself lol people act like that's a small matter and that he got away.

He prol does have stuff hidden but holy shit.

-Smak