Steph was given a tech for flopping here. Would you rescind it?

[Kblaze8855]

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[warriorfan]

ref didn’t see him get pushed in the air

grant did a good job disguising it, was very subtle

[hold this L]

Imagine that getting a tech while Embiid, Harden, Trae, & Co. run amok the league with the way they play.

[1987_Lakers]

It was a flop.

[Kblaze8855]

It may be but if so, I think it’s that Subconscious kind born of years of falling down because it’s advantageous in the NBA. I don’t know if it’s the egregious kind the rule was meant to stop. NBA players just let that part of the brain that instantly reacts to regain balance atrophy from lack of use. It’s a lot harder to knock an NBA player down and make them roll when that part of the brain is working.


subjected to the same forces outside the confines of the NBA people don’t fall that easily. NBA players don’t fall that easily either if you see them play at Rucker, or an unofficiated summer game.

But let them play in the NBA game. They hit the floor on like 30% of contested threes. It’s just kind of instinct at this point.

[tpols]

He got nudged while in the air. Trying to land on your feet off balance like that is how leg injuries happen. So he rolled through it, immediately got up and started running. If that's a flop were going to have to rescind Embiids entire career.

[Kblaze8855]

He got nudged while in the air. Trying to land on your feet off balance like that is how leg injuries happen. So he rolled through it, immediately got up and started running. If that's a flop were going to have to rescind Embiids entire career.

it’s actually why Joel flops so much compared to early in his career if you listen to his trainers. He had a sports doctor Literally tell him to just fall over every time and roll to even stops and not try to catch himself. He goes down the way wrestlers are taught to take a bump. It may be spreading. He’s the first I’ve heard was specifically ordered to do it by the people who repair his various injuries

[warriorfan]

it’s actually why Joel flops so much compared to early in his career if you listen to his trainers. He had a sports doctor Literally tell him to just fall over every time and roll to even stops and not try to catch himself. He goes down the way wrestlers are taught to take a bump. It may be spreading. He’s the first I’ve heard was specifically ordered to do it by the people who repair his various injuries

you be buying up all them wolf tickets :lol :lol

“my doctor told me to flop”

:roll:

[ILLsmak]

you be buying up all them wolf tickets :lol :lol

“my doctor told me to flop”

:roll:

yea I don't buy that shit at all. haha

-Smak

[Xiao Yao You]

it’s actually why Joel flops so much compared to early in his career if you listen to his trainers. He had a sports doctor Literally tell him to just fall over every time and roll to even stops and not try to catch himself. He goes down the way wrestlers are taught to take a bump. It may be spreading. He’s the first I’ve heard was specifically ordered to do it by the people who repair his various injuries

they are all a bunch of actors just like wrestlers so it makes sense.

[Wardell Curry]

I don't know exactly what happened here but I do know Steph has been falling to the ground for most of his career trying to avoid ankle injuries.

[Wardell Curry]

As far as Joel goes, that guy is the biggest guy in the league. With how over the top his body movements are, nobody is going to convince me that most of the time it is him trying to not get injured.

He is actively hunting for fouls every time down the floor. He's more interested in fouls than basketball. That is not Steph and this is not a fair comparison at all.

[Kblaze8855]

you be buying up all them wolf tickets :lol :lol

“my doctor told me to flop”

:roll:

Wasnt him it was some reporter talking to a trainer. It isn’t a new concept. It’s what nfl quarterbacks are taught to do. Brady was apparently the GOAT at it. People say hitting him is like tackling a water balloon. He just flows down softly and evenly. Doesn’t resist. Just rolls with it.

I think I ended up down the path that led to the Embiid trainer reading about Tua needing to learn to fall and possibly go to judo classes to help.

Led me to an old article when he was first getting healthy and talked about it. I’ll see if I can find it.

[Kblaze8855]

This is 5 years ago when he was still on those minute restrictions and we always thought he was gonna miss another season every time he fell:




“It was something I learned during my rehab when I was going through the foot injury, when I was trying to find ways to limit the impact on my body in 2014,” he says. “I was told that every time I feel like I’m in a situation where it’s going to be some type of extreme [weight] on my leg, I’ve got to dive or just roll onto the floor. So that’s why I do it.”
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“I know there are fans that are always thinking, ‘No!’ each time I fall, but that’s why I do it,” Embiid says with a brief grin before heading for the showers. “The specialists for my foot told me to do it.”





Pretty much the same thing the trainer said.

How much you believe is up to you.

[tpols]

yea I don't buy that shit at all. haha

-Smak

He's actually right... you see it with skateboarders too they know how to fall and use reflex rolling technique to minimize damage. Got guys jumping down 20 foot cement staircases and 30 feet in the air on half pipes, wiping out, and only getting some scrapes because they rolled properly. If they tried to land stiff and tensely they'd break their legs in half from the pinpoint force.

[tpols]

And you can see it in diving too. 192 feet is the record. Imagine jumping off a 20 story hotel building roof into a swimming pool.


https://youtu.be/h-Z8_qsQYXc?si=LnDZQxxoWrIS7Qm5

It's totally absurd, we'd all not make it through that but this guy trained himself to deflect force through specific movement as such to not let it destroy his body in a way the average person would have 0 chance of doing.

[Wally450]

Flop

[Kblaze8855]

He's actually right... you see it with skateboarders too they know how to fall and use reflex rolling technique to minimize damage. Got guys jumping down 20 foot cement staircases and 30 feet in the air on half pipes, wiping out, and only getting some scrapes because they rolled properly. If they tried to land stiff and tensely they'd break their legs in half from the pinpoint force.


Turns out Steph is another one like Embiid too. Only he started it earlier. A lot of sources are saying he falls on layups and jumpers to protect his ankles like Embiid does for his feet. And both were told to do it as part of rehab and staying healthy.

[ILLsmak]

He's actually right... you see it with skateboarders too they know how to fall and use reflex rolling technique to minimize damage. Got guys jumping down 20 foot cement staircases and 30 feet in the air on half pipes, wiping out, and only getting some scrapes because they rolled properly. If they tried to land stiff and tensely they'd break their legs in half from the pinpoint force.

I did judo as a kid lol. I understand the idea; the first thing they teach you is how to fall. It's not wrong 'in theory,' just like when you parachute or whatever you are supposed to tuck and roll, but I'm saying using that as an excuse for ridic flopping is luls. Something can be true and can be an excuse at the same time. That's not why he flops, man. Haha. But it's good he can feel better about himself.

Edit: Post a vid of someone flailing to protect themselves from injury lol (not in sports)

-Smak

[Kblaze8855]

I can accept that he falls because he told to. The extra flailing and all is the issue. Hes looking for calls…while falling as he’s supposed to.

[ILLsmak]

https://youtu.be/UceF5GcZ3Mw?si=RZJXvSJZYvfrU9Qd&t=119

That's a proper fall, but a lot of the times he's putting himself at more risk. But he def knows how to fall, but that doesn't mean him throwing himself on the ground is a good look, haha, some of those ones he looks like he could have broken his wrist. Plus, that one didn't need any selling. The whole selling does not equal how to fall, to me.

Edit: KB nah he gets in trouble. He's not falling right every time. He's flopping first while keeping falling in mind, but he's def closer to injury than someone who is just like "I'm gonna use the force every time and land perfectly." It's not like gymnastics, y'know, they do things but what they do is the opposite of flailing, it's balanced. Flailing is imbalanced.

-Smak

[Hey Yo]

I don't know exactly what happened here but I do know Steph has been falling to the ground for most of his career trying to avoid ankle injuries.

If that were the case, he'd fall down on uncontested jumpers which we both know he does not.

[tpols]

Turns out Steph is another one like Embiid too. Only he started it earlier. A lot of sources are saying he falls on layups and jumpers to protect his ankles like Embiid does for his feet. And both were told to do it as part of rehab and staying healthy.

Their doctors could have made derrick rose another 200 million dollars if they trained him to roll instead of trying to catch himself. Embiid is next level though. He doesn't just roll on jumps. He barely jumps tbh. He straight throws himself to the floor for calls while not being in the air.

[Carbine]

This is a wild call. Not the spirit of the rule whatsoever.

[Full Court]

Nope. That was a flop. T him up. And T up all the other ones who are doing that every game.

[hold this L]

Turns out Steph is another one like Embiid too. Only he started it earlier. A lot of sources are saying he falls on layups and jumpers to protect his ankles like Embiid does for his feet. And both were told to do it as part of rehab and staying healthy.

This is an impressively idiotic take. Well done. Maybe he can write 15 paragraphs that have no relevance to the topic to add some more to this story.

[Jasper]

what ever steph says is right.

Coach Kerr- " is Drymond important"
Curry - " he is a championship wet one"

[Wardell Curry]

This is an impressively idiotic take. Well done. Maybe he can write 15 paragraphs that have no relevance to the topic to add some more to this story.

You don't think Curry falls to the ground on purpose?

Sometimes he's flopping, as virtually all modern players do, but most of the time he is legitimately trying to avoid injury. Further proof of this is the fact that you will almost always see him immediately pop back up, start hustling back on defense, not argue whatsoever, and not try to make it more than it is.

Have you ever watched a Warriors game?

[SATAN]

It kinda looked like he flopped, contact looks kinda weak, but they probably should have just let it go.

[BarberSchool]

he got nudged while in the air. Trying to land on your feet off balance like that is how leg injuries happen. So he rolled through it, immediately got up and started running. If that's a flop were going to have to rescind embiids entire career.
this.