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Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 08:19 AM
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Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 08:20 AM
I suppose he had to fit a teammate in there.

SouBeachTalents
01-03-2024, 08:22 AM
Embiid

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ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 08:31 AM
Why exactly is Green a dawg?

Cause hes really loud and kicks and punches people?

I might consider him a dawg if he was not doing the latter. But that just makes him so unsmart and a liability many times.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 09:31 AM
Why exactly is Green a dawg?

Cause hes really loud and kicks and punches people?

I might consider him a dawg if he was not doing the latter. But that just makes him so unsmart and a liability many times.


why is anyone? There is no firm definition. You just know it when you see it. Like the difference between porn and nude modeling.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 11:20 AM
Why exactly is Green a dawg?

Cause hes really loud and kicks and punches people?

I might consider him a dawg if he was not doing the latter. But that just makes him so unsmart and a liability many times.

when you start watching the NBA in 2023^^^

Airupthere
01-03-2024, 12:29 PM
Embiid

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:oldlol: exactly

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 12:51 PM
why is anyone? There is no firm definition. You just know it when you see it. Like the difference between porn and nude modeling.


To me a dawg is someone about his business. Strong character. Stands up for himself and very importantly, can back up his words. Green seems more phony ish.

Manny98
01-03-2024, 01:00 PM
Embiid

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:roll:

FultzNationRISE
01-03-2024, 01:20 PM
Not picking Lebron?

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FultzNationRISE
01-03-2024, 01:23 PM
To me a dawg is someone about his business. Strong character. Stands up for himself and very importantly, can back up his words. Green seems more phony ish.

I think in the sports context it’s not really about character, just means a guy with a constant motor who will take tough assignments and do the dirty work that doesnt show in the stat sheet.

Green has fit that description in addition to all his antics and cheapshots.

As has been pointed out, the real absurdity in this list is Embiid.

edit: And not picking Lebron.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 01:24 PM
To me a dawg is someone about his business. Strong character. Stands up for himself and very importantly, can back up his words. Green seems more phony ish.

so you don’t think Draymond stands up for himself? And what words do you imagine he would say and not back up? Is he out there claiming he’s going to make all his threes or what? I’d say he’s been pretty consistent doing what I expect him to do for a very long time.

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 02:01 PM
It's just a list of guys Beverly likes. "Yeah, he hard. That's my dawg." The last NBA champion didn't have a single "dawg" so it must not be that important. Somehow the Celtics without a single dawg have beaten a team with a dawg in 6+ playoff series.

tpols
01-03-2024, 02:03 PM
Embiid and Caruso?

Dillon Brooks even though he's retarded on offense is probably the top Go0n in the NBA right now.

ShawkFactory
01-03-2024, 02:07 PM
so you don’t think Draymond stands up for himself? And what words do you imagine he would say and not back up? Is he out there claiming he’s going to make all his threes or what? I’d say he’s been pretty consistent doing what I expect him to do for a very long time.

Yea that’s a strange take. Despite being petulant at times Dray leaves everything out there.

Kind of the definition of a dawg in my book.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 02:09 PM
I think it means more like…extreme competitor. Not dirty. Caruso competes his ass off.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 02:13 PM
It's just a list of guys Beverly likes. "Yeah, he hard. That's my dawg." The last NBA champion didn't have a single "dawg" so it must not be that important. Somehow the Celtics without a single dawg have beaten a team with a dawg in 6+ playoff series.


Marcus Smarts last scan was pretty definitive





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Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 02:20 PM
I think it means more like…extreme competitor. Not dirty. Caruso competes his ass off.

You could be right but other than Butler who on that list is so much more s competitive than the average good player? And listing butler is really just my opinion based on how much better he plays in the playoffs, something we don't see from anyone else to the extreme we do with him. I bet a lot of players just say whatever comes to mind at the moment when they give these kinds of statements but if he put real thought into it then what's his logic? It's too vague to be meaningful which is why I bet he just listed so he guys he's friends with.

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 02:21 PM
Marcus Smarts last scan was pretty definitive





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But he didn't make the list.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 02:25 PM
I don’t think He’s saying there are only six on the planet.

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 02:32 PM
I don’t think He’s saying there are only six on the planet.

No but he is saying that those guys are more dawg than anyone on the Celtics...whatever that means. Smart likely makes the list if him and Beverly are friends. And I really don't know who on Denver would qualify as dawg but they managed to win the championship. In fact the only guy in a conference finals team that qualified for dawg list last year was Butler.

FultzNationRISE
01-03-2024, 02:55 PM
It's just a list of guys Beverly likes. "Yeah, he hard. That's my dawg." The last NBA champion didn't have a single "dawg" so it must not be that important. Somehow the Celtics without a single dawg have beaten a team with a dawg in 6+ playoff series.


Aaron Gordon is a dawg, which is what confused his own dawg and caused him to bite. MPJ also played like a dawg in the playoffs when his shot wasnt falling, and it paid off big for them. Christian Braun was also a dawg off the bench. Bruce Brown and Jeff Green also brought the dawg.

Compare this to competitive puppies like DAngelo Russell and Anthony Davis, I mean wtf we talkin about here??

All dawgs aint the same.

Tatum aint a dawg. I'm not sayin he's a bitch like you are. But he aint a dawg.

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 03:08 PM
Aaron Gordon is a dawg, which is what confused his own dawg and caused him to bite. MPJ also played like a dawg in the playoffs when his shot wasnt falling, and it paid off big for them. Christian Braun was also a dawg off the bench. Bruce Brown and Jeff Green also brought the dawg.

Compare this to competitive puppies like DAngelo Russell and Anthony Davis, I mean wtf we talkin about here??

All dawgs aint the same.

Tatum aint a dawg. I'm not sayin he's a bitch like you are. But he aint a dawg.

Try harder, you are close to achieving your goal of being an idiot 24/7.

tpols
01-03-2024, 03:18 PM
Aaron Gordon is a dawg, which is what confused his own dawg and caused him to bite. MPJ also played like a dawg in the playoffs when his shot wasnt falling, and it paid off big for them. Christian Braun was also a dawg off the bench. Bruce Brown and Jeff Green also brought the dawg.

Compare this to competitive puppies like DAngelo Russell and Anthony Davis, I mean wtf we talkin about here??

All dawgs aint the same.

Tatum aint a dawg. I'm not sayin he's a bitch like you are. But he aint a dawg.


Jrue Holiday fits the criteria. Jokic honestly does too it's just he's quiet and doesn't talk shit but if you **** with him he'll retaliate Ala the Morris punk shove.

FultzNationRISE
01-03-2024, 03:32 PM
Jrue Holiday fits the criteria. Jokic honestly does too it's just he's quiet and doesn't talk shit but if you **** with him he'll retaliate Ala the Morris punk shove.

I agree.

elementally morale
01-03-2024, 04:11 PM
Jrue Holiday fits the criteria. Jokic honestly does too it's just he's quiet and doesn't talk shit but if you **** with him he'll retaliate Ala the Morris punk shove.

Jokic is a real thug on the inside during the game. You can see how hard it is for him to control himself several times each game. He starts getting really angry... and in half a second it's gone. But he would make a great fighter just chooses not to do it. But as a personality he is not a nice guy at all. Acts nice but that's different.

tontoz
01-03-2024, 04:13 PM
Jokic is a real thug on the inside during the game. You can see how hard it is for him to control himself several times each game. He starts getting really angry... and in half a second it's gone. But he would make a great fighter just chooses not to do it.

Markief messed around and found out.

elementally morale
01-03-2024, 04:19 PM
Markief messed around and found out.

That was absolutely terrifying to watch. Morris is a big guy by normal standards and he literally flew away.

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 04:38 PM
so you don’t think Draymond stands up for himself? And what words do you imagine he would say and not back up? Is he out there claiming he’s going to make all his threes or what? I’d say he’s been pretty consistent doing what I expect him to do for a very long time.

He constantly talks trash which is based on his teams success, especially the last few years, all the trash he talks is backed up by Curry, not him.


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Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 04:56 PM
So only scorers can back up talk?

That’s what backing up talk means?

You’re going to score a lot? I suspect he never says that. He probably talks about winning which they do a lot of. I doubt he considers that entirely an issue of Steph scoring. They missed the playoffs the year Steph scored his career high.

Is assume he talks about team dominance. What else could he say? How many pick and rolls he blew up? How many assists he has?

He does his job team wise. A lot of people talk without being scorers. It’s never been a prerequisite.

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 05:00 PM
So only scorers can back up talk?

That’s what backing up talk means?

You’re going to score a lot? I suspect he never says that. He probably talks about winning which they do a lot of. I doubt he considers that entirely an issue of Steph scoring. They missed the playoffs the year Steph scored his career high.

Is assume he talks about team dominance. What else could he say? How many pick and rolls he blew up? How many assists he has?

He does his job team wise. A lot of people talk without being scorers. It’s never been a prerequisite.


Klay missed that year too.

Im not saying he HAS to score.

Hes just been REALLY unspectacular the last couple years...

The trash he talks is not in relation to what he does on the court anymore, at all.

tpols
01-03-2024, 05:03 PM
Real old school gangsters didn't need to talk much. You just got whacked and that was it. There's a lot fake tough guys in NBA like pat bev that would get smoked on the street for running their mouth because in the NBA they know any scuffle is gonna get broken up quickly with little to no damage inflicted.

ILLsmak
01-03-2024, 05:45 PM
Isiah Stewart.

Xavier Tillman.

Dem dawgz.

Yall know people get stronger at about 40 right? Look at this dude play w/ Bron. LUNACY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJR_nKeV7o8

-Smak

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 05:50 PM
Klay missed that year too.

Im not saying he HAS to score.

Hes just been REALLY unspectacular the last couple years...

The trash he talks is not in relation to what he does on the court anymore, at all.

Was he ever spectacular in an easily quantifiable way?

When he was DPOY he did 10/8/7/2/1 and shot 42% and 31% from 3. That was his prime.

So I’m not sure what you’re looking for that would make his performance stand out.

Hes just not that guy if you’re looking for stats to back up his mouth. That isn’t how he backs up his talk. To him he’s there to call the defense. To know what’s being run and communicate that to the young guys. To make the pass to the pass. To hype people up. To force an extra pass. To spot a tendency in film and bring it to everyone’s attention. He is tied intricately into the overall performance of the team, so he talked shit using the overall performance of the team.

Steph is a pretty static part. He’s pretty great all the time. The team isn’t great or bad because of him. He’s always great. The team is great or bad based on everyone else performing and playing defense. Thats why they can have bad seasons while he has great ones. The team has to work as a whole. Fans might consider Steph having 35 to be backing up Draymonds talk but Steph is gonna have 35 anyway.

The team has to do the rest. Draymond has generally been heavily credited with “the rest” which is why I suspect he talks about the team success.

Hes not more individually responsible than Curry of course but that just brings up to the real issue.

Nobody is individually responsible for anything out there. They are all pieces of the whole. And he’s probably the second biggest piece.

And because of that gonna talk no matter what. Leaders don’t always do the most visible thing. Haslem is getting his jersey retired for a reason. It’s not always as clear as box score performance.

I feel like with all the incidents if they didn’t get what they felt they needed he’d have been shipped out long ago. I hesitate to try to quantify the value of people like that.

They watched his temper pretty much wreck a finals. And kept him around to keep doing it. Let him chase off KD. Punch a teammate. Still paid him.

They see something that isn’t readily apparent to outsiders.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 05:51 PM
Real old school gangsters didn't need to talk much. You just got whacked and that was it. There's a lot fake tough guys in NBA like pat bev that would get smoked on the street for running their mouth because in the NBA they know any scuffle is gonna get broken up quickly with little to no damage inflicted.


I don’t think people mean it as physically as you do. It’s not about being a gangster or violent. Kirk Hinrich was a dog. It’s just…a way you carry yourself and perform. You don’t have to be aggressive to show it.

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 05:57 PM
Was he ever spectacular in an easily quantifiable way?

When he was DPOY he did 10/8/7/2/1 and shot 42% and 31% from 3. That was his prime.

So I’m not sure what you’re looking for that would make his performance stand out.

Hes just not that guy if you’re looking for stats to back up his mouth. That isn’t how he backs up his talk. To him he’s there to call the defense. To know what’s being run and communicate that to the young guys. To make the pass to the pass. To hype people up. To force an extra pass. To spot a tendency in film and bring it to everyone’s attention. He is tied intricately into the overall performance of the team, so he talked shit using the overall performance of the team.

Steph is a pretty static part. He’s pretty great all the time. The team isn’t great or bad because of him. He’s always great. The team is great or bad based on everyone else performing and playing defense. Thats why they can have bad seasons while he has great ones. The team has to work as a whole. Fans might consider Steph having 35 to be backing up Draymonds talk but Steph is gonna have 35 anyway.

The team has to do the rest. Draymond has generally been heavily credited with “the rest” which is why I suspect he talks about the team success.

Hes not more individually responsible than Curry of course but that just brings up to the real issue.

Nobody is individually responsible for anything out there. They are all pieces of the whole. And he’s probably the second biggest piece.

And because of that gonna talk no matter what. Leaders don’t always do the most visible thing. Haslem is getting his jersey retired for a reason. It’s not always as clear as box score performance.

I feel like with all the incidents if they didn’t get what they felt they needed he’d have been shipped out long ago. I hesitate to try to quantify the value of people like that.

They watched his temper pretty much wreck a finals. And kept him around to keep doing it. Let him chase off KD. Punch a teammate. Still paid him.

They see something that isn’t readily apparent to outsiders.


Why are you mentioning a year that was not among his best?

His actual peak 14/10/7 and 39% from 3.

Hes been a constant disturbance for his own team the last years.. the only reason they still have him on is due to reputation and the "brotherhood" angle with Steph and Klay.

Im not sure why you interpreted spectacular as in being flashy. Just being good.

Has he been good? Not much.

When you play like that and constantly yep and yell and lose control of your emotions like he does, you just seem phony.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 06:09 PM
Not among his best? This is probably the meat of the issue. You’re judging a player by his points and shooting numbers when that is the last reason he’s on the floor. Of all the reasons to put him in a game points and jump shooting are the last, but you consider a year he was at or near the peak of what he’s actually there to do to not be among his best because you’re judging him by other peoples standards.

You’re talking about someone I have heard firsthand reports from teammates that he sits down and watches film and gets together with the coaching staff to come up with defensive game plans. How do you measure the contribution of somebody like that with their shooting percentage? He’s as close to anybody in the NBA to being a coach on the floor. So how do we Call his prime a down year due to the things you’re talking about?

Not everybody is there to do the same thing. It’s entirely possibe He changes games the day before they are played.

he’s not getting these contracts for the 10 to 14 points and his shooting. That’s the gravy on top of what he’s actually paid to provide.

warriorfan
01-03-2024, 06:11 PM
a dawg is someone who plays 110% every play and is a competitor. gonna play hard and physical. not necessary dirty although a lot of dawgs get dirty. jrue is an example of a non dirty playing dawg.

what’s funny is here is draymond is prob the definition of a dawg, yet people hate to give him any sort of credit they will try to pull mental gymnastics, dray is a dawg, there’s no two ways about it

i don’t see why it’s a huge thing to admit too, not saying he’s a top player in the league or anything, he just got that dawg in him, it’s something you either have or you don’t

imagine wiggins with a bit of dawg in him….dude would be all nba every year

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 06:17 PM
a dawg is someone who plays 110% every play and is a competitor. gonna play hard and physical. not necessary dirty although a lot of dawgs get dirty. jrue is an example of a non dirty playing dawg.

what’s funny is here is draymond is prob the definition of a dawg, yet people hate to give him any sort of credit they will try to pull mental gymnastics, dray is a dawg, there’s no two ways about it

i don’t see why it’s a huge thing to admit too, not saying he’s a top player in the league or anything, he just got that dawg in him, it’s something you either have or you don’t

imagine wiggins with a bit of dawg in him….dude would be all nba every year


yeah, it’s really not about any ranking or how good you are. PJ Tucker is a dog. Nobody is saying he’s elite.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 06:26 PM
i'd take grayson allen over embiid in the all dawg team tbh

highwhey
01-03-2024, 06:29 PM
Why are you mentioning a year that was not among his best?

His actual peak 14/10/7 and 39% from 3.

Hes been a constant disturbance for his own team the last years.. the only reason they still have him on is due to reputation and the "brotherhood" angle with Steph and Klay.

Im not sure why you interpreted spectacular as in being flashy. Just being good.

Has he been good? Not much.

When you play like that and constantly yep and yell and lose control of your emotions like he does, you just seem phony.

you definitely don't have that dawg in you

highwhey
01-03-2024, 06:31 PM
It's just a list of guys Beverly likes. "Yeah, he hard. That's my dawg." The last NBA champion didn't have a single "dawg" so it must not be that important. Somehow the Celtics without a single dawg have beaten a team with a dawg in 6+ playoff series.

absolutely insecure that tatum doesnt have that dawg in him

highwhey
01-03-2024, 06:32 PM
if yall been watching...prolly not except for fsrv54, jaime jaquez has that dawg woof woof

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 06:41 PM
absolutely insecure that tatum doesnt have that dawg in him

Apparently nor does Durant, LeBron, Jokic, Curry, and many others so I'm fine with Tatum not being on the list. Embiid has that dawg and the Celtics have still managed to get by.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 06:48 PM
Apparently nor does Durant, LeBron, Jokic, Curry, and many others so I'm fine with Tatum not being on the list. Embiid has that dawg and the Celtics have still managed to get by.

lebron has it part time, the 2012 run stains his draws like a shit stain but in 16 and the following years he absolutely willed his way through some fantastic playoff performances that one could caracterize as... having that dawg in him. that meme of him looking at the opponent menacing could be the cover for this thread


jokic has it

durant doesn't even know what a dawg is so he needs a bus driver to take him to titleland

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 07:10 PM
Not among his best? This is probably the meat of the issue. You’re judging a player by his points and shooting numbers when that is the last reason he’s on the floor. Of all the reasons to put him in a game points and jump shooting are the last, but you consider a year he was at or near the peak of what he’s actually there to do to not be among his best because you’re judging him by other peoples standards.

You’re talking about someone I have heard firsthand reports from teammates that he sits down and watches film and gets together with the coaching staff to come up with defensive game plans. How do you measure the contribution of somebody like that with their shooting percentage? He’s as close to anybody in the NBA to being a coach on the floor. So how do we Call his prime a down year due to the things you’re talking about?

Not everybody is there to do the same thing. It’s entirely possibe He changes games the day before they are played.

he’s not getting these contracts for the 10 to 14 points and his shooting. That’s the gravy on top of what he’s actually paid to provide.


Youre thinking it was among his best cause he won DPOTY?

His defense was significantly better that year than other years?


Come off it, blaze.

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 07:11 PM
you definitely don't have that dawg in you


your belly looks like theres a dawg in you

highwhey
01-03-2024, 07:14 PM
your belly looks like theres a dawg in you

So that means i got that dawg in me


@blaze if you want to define what determines if you have it...think of yourself in a dark alley against 4 bigger guys than you, would you grab the nearest empty beer bottle and crack in half and stab them or would you be like arby and dial 911?

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 07:14 PM
lebron has it part time, the 2012 run stains his draws like a shit stain but in 16 and the following years he absolutely willed his way through some fantastic playoff performances that one could caracterize as... having that dawg in him. that meme of him looking at the opponent menacing could be the cover for this thread


jokic has it

durant doesn't even know what a dawg is so he needs a bus driver to take him to titleland
Here you are pointlessly talking again. None of these players made Beverly's list. They are not"dawg" elite. Apparently no one in Phoenix is a dawg either so good luck with your bus driving Dawg. Call the Paw Patrol.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 07:15 PM
Here you are pointlessly talking again. None of these players made Beverly's list. They are not"dawg" elite. Apparently no one in Phoenix is a dawg either so good luck with your bus driving Dawg. Call the Paw Patrol.

grayson allen has more heart than tatum

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 07:27 PM
grayson allen has more heart than tatum

How nice. That plus 2 more wins and maybe Phoenix wouldn't be a play in team right now.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 07:29 PM
Youre thinking it was among his best cause he won DPOTY?

His defense was significantly better that year than other years?


Come off it, blaze.

what I’m telling you is it was his prime and he was doing what he is there to do. It isn’t some off year because he shot worse than some other year. A down year for a defender and playmaker who supplements that with scoring isn’t necessarily when he has an off scoring year. just like a down year for a scorer isn’t when his defense lags a bit. I judge players by what they are supposed to be doing. I don’t judge a Chris Mullin season by his rebounding numbers and I don’t judge Draymond Green by his scoring. Whatever he gives you beyond the baseline expectation of what an NBA player should be able to do as a scorer is extra. Sometimes you get a lot extra sometimes you get a little extra but that isn’t what determines if he’s doing his job.

that guy isn’t a fringe Hall of Famer because of his jumper. Care about his points per game only marginally more than I care about Ben Wallace’s. More. But not by much.

WhiteKyrie
01-03-2024, 07:31 PM
Agreed except for Embiid. Jokic over Embiid.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 07:31 PM
How nice. That plus 2 more wins and maybe Phoenix wouldn't be a play in team right now.

i mean all 3 stars have been injured at some point. they've played a total of 2 games together.

but as i mentioned previously, i am over this season. i attended a game on monday, and i had fun. no expectations whatsoever.

SouBeachTalents
01-03-2024, 07:31 PM
what I’m telling you is it was his prime and he was doing what he is there to do. It isn’t some off year because he shot worse than some other year. A down year for a defender and playmaker who supplements that with scoring isn’t necessarily when he has an off scoring year. just like a down year for a scorer isn’t when his defense lags a bit. I judge players by what they are supposed to be doing. I don’t judge a Chris Mullin season by his rebounding numbers and I don’t judge Draymond Green by his scoring. Whatever he gives you beyond the baseline expectation of what an NBA player should be able to do as a scorer is extra. Sometimes you get a lot extra sometimes you get a little extra but that isn’t what determines if he’s doing his job.

that guy isn’t a fringe Hall of Famer because of his jumper. Care about his points per game only marginally more than I care about Ben Wallace’s. More. But not by much.
I'm not disputing your arguments, but it's pretty clear Dray's peak season was 2016, which is what AW was claiming.

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 07:38 PM
i mean all 3 stars have been injured at some point. they've played a total of 2 games together.

but as i mentioned previously, i am over this season. i attended a game on monday, and i had fun. no expectations whatsoever.

But I thought Grayson Allen had so much dawg? The way you talk that dog must be chihuahua.

highwhey
01-03-2024, 07:41 PM
But I thought Grayson Allen had so much dawg? The way you talk that dog must be chihuahua.

steve malone literally told me to stop trolling yall. so i will stop here and demonstrate self-restraint. but if you insist, i will have no choice but to


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 07:42 PM
I'm not disputing your arguments, but it's pretty clear Dray's peak season was 2016, which is what AW was claiming.

That could be his statistical peak. But this topic is about something that can't be quantified (and Beverly either didn't think much about or is just being random). "Dawg" is not about numbers. The way done posters are discussing it in this thread it really isn't about anything. But it is supposed to allude to heart, guts, etc.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 07:45 PM
I'm not disputing your arguments, but it's pretty clear Dray's peak season was 2016, which is what AW was claiming.

he asked why I mentioned a year that was not among his best. That was prime Draymond Green, regardless of what statistics he put up, which is the reason I posted his fairly mundane statistics.

WhiteKyrie
01-03-2024, 07:59 PM
Green headlines the all Ape team

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 08:04 PM
Green headlines the all Ape team

20 years of


https://youtu.be/cy6CFTMnYa4?si=NMUNd2RQgLqKm6fd


If nothing else you’re consistent.

tpols
01-03-2024, 08:32 PM
We all are technically primates and evolved as such through many divergent evolutionary paths.

Draymond does appear to have skipped a step though with his inability to have limited his extremely impulsive, quick twitch, and violent movements. I've seen white people I grew up with act this way. It's not a race thing necessarily.

Full Court
01-03-2024, 08:44 PM
When I think of players who are "dawgs," the first ones that come to mind or Pat Bev, Jrue Holiday, Jimmy Butler, and Dillon Brooks.

elementally morale
01-03-2024, 08:50 PM
What about someone like Steven Adams? He plays hard. He fights. Has heart. But a dawg? Not for me. If you agree with this: what is the difference between having a heart and playing hard and 'dawg'?

tpols
01-03-2024, 09:02 PM
What about someone like Steven Adams? He plays hard. He fights. Has heart. But a dawg? Not for me. If you agree with this: what is the difference between having a heart and playing hard and 'dawg'?

Having a big mouth.

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 09:02 PM
When I think of players who are "dawgs," the first ones that come to mind or Pat Bev, Jrue Holiday, Jimmy Butler, and Dillon Brooks.


Dillon Brooks is the biggest fake dawg ever

ArbitraryWater
01-03-2024, 09:08 PM
he asked why I mentioned a year that was not among his best. That was prime Draymond Green, regardless of what statistics he put up, which is the reason I posted his fairly mundane statistics.

It was one of his more unimpressive years.

Getting the DPOTY doesnt change that, unless, again, you genuinely believe his defense was much better that year than other years.

If you wanna believe that, go ahead.


That could be his statistical peak. But this topic is about something that can't be quantified (and Beverly either didn't think much about or is just being random). "Dawg" is not about numbers. The way done posters are discussing it in this thread it really isn't about anything. But it is supposed to allude to heart, guts, etc.

How do you so badly miss the point of this?

This wasnt about discussing peak "dawg" years (lmao), it was about saying that part of being a dawg, is not just talking the talk but walking the walk.

blaze thus said Green doesnt need numbers to have a good year and "walking the walk" picked his DPOTY season, which was quite unimpressive outside his defense, and his defense was hardly different to other years, of course.

In return its needs pointing out that Greens best year was by far the one that also has his statistically best year.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 09:38 PM
What Makes 2017 one of Draymond’s least impressive seasons Other than doing less of something his team has never needed less from him?


career high in blocks. Lead the NBA in steals. Defensive player of the year as he quarterbacked a top tier defense. More rebounds than he has gotten in any season since. He had a triple double without double digit points that year. And in that game he had 10 steals and five blocks to go with double digit rebounds and assists. He had several games with both a triple double and 5 blocks or steals.

what precisely makes it a down year other than providing less of something his team already had more of than arguably any team in NBA history?

Explain to me how that’s a bad Draymond season. Please. Tell me why I’m wrong to call that prime Draymond.

BarberSchool
01-03-2024, 09:47 PM
Embiid has no Dawg in him.

Draymond does, but it’s the kind of dog that eats priceless kicks, Tears up leather couches, bites neighbors children, BARKS WAY TOO LOUD WAY TOO OFTEN at everything, and gets put to sleep.

If Dray was an actual dog, he would have been put down the day after he kicked Adams in the balls.

Kblaze8855
01-03-2024, 09:49 PM
2-6 this game. 0-3 from 3. Triple double(and 5 blocks) with only 4 points scored.



https://youtu.be/6cLjPuJ15tQ?si=5KrUC7fSvZbl591y


Down game? Not what you’re looking for from the teams 7th best scorer?

Real Men Wear Green
01-03-2024, 09:52 PM
How do you so badly miss the point of this?

This wasnt about discussing peak "dawg" years (lmao), it was about saying that part of being a dawg, is not just talking the talk but walking the walk.

blaze thus said Green doesnt need numbers to have a good year and "walking the walk" picked his DPOTY season, which was quite unimpressive outside his defense, and his defense was hardly different to other years, of course.

In return its needs pointing out that Greens best year was by far the one that also has his statistically best year.You are the guy that made a topic in the OtC about calling the cops after a another man punched you in the face. There is literally no one on this forum with less dog in him than you. And because of that you have no idea what being a "dawg" would mean. I find the attempts to analyze it in thread are often off but you trying to measure it in numbers are clearly the biggest idiot.

BarberSchool
01-03-2024, 10:00 PM
My favorite quiet dawg who don’t need to do all the fake barking all loud, is …

NORMAN POWELL

Full Court
01-03-2024, 11:51 PM
Dillon Brooks is the biggest fake dawg ever

You're just bitter because he sonned Bronie.

warriorfan
01-04-2024, 01:08 AM
your belly looks like theres a dawg in you

:roll:

warriorfan
01-04-2024, 01:20 AM
yeah, it’s really not about any ranking or how good you are. PJ Tucker is a dog. Nobody is saying he’s elite.

He is. He’s always been maybe my favorite non warrior role player. He has a little bit of dray in him being an undersized 4 that doesn’t play like it, PJ can knock down the shots though where dray can handle and pass a bit. And dray is a better defender of course even though PJ definitely ain’t no slouch.

PJ is a dude that any championship contending team would kill to have

Kblaze8855
01-04-2024, 01:25 AM
Question….

Did the dog in Quincy Acy have another smaller dog in it?


https://youtube.com/shorts/DWFwM0bHg-8?si=qnofdZDmoAyfOR6d

Bawkish
01-04-2024, 03:26 AM
Giannis is a dawg

Luka is both a dawg and a dad (he had adopted someone in Phoenix)

Jalen Brunson is a pitbull

RRR3
01-04-2024, 03:58 AM
Question….

Did the dog in Quincy Acy have another smaller dog in it?


https://youtube.com/shorts/DWFwM0bHg-8?si=qnofdZDmoAyfOR6d
Always loved Acy.

bdonovan
01-04-2024, 06:17 AM
Why exactly is Green a dawg?

Cause hes really loud and kicks and punches people?

I might consider him a dawg if he was not doing the latter. But that just makes him so unsmart and a liability many times.

He is because he is strong and aggresive. It isn't an IQ contest.

ArbitraryWater
01-04-2024, 06:26 AM
He is because he is strong and aggresive. It isn't an IQ contest.


says who? Id definitely give more weight to composure/maturity than physical strength

bdonovan
01-04-2024, 08:05 AM
says who? Id definitely give more weight to composure/maturity than physical strength

No this isnt a discussion of what you think makes a better player.
This is PatBevs list of dawgs, meaning "Tenacious stop at nothing".
Don't change the subject.

When people say about a basketball player "he's got that dawg in him" they're not talking about composure or maturity. They're talking about aggression. They're talking about tenacity.

rawimpact
01-04-2024, 10:56 AM
Cant take a list like this seriously if its not going to include the dog that attacked aaron gordon

Wally450
01-04-2024, 11:02 AM
Bias obviously, but I'd have Marcus Smart on that list.

FultzNationRISE
01-04-2024, 07:26 PM
It’s obvious he’s giving priority to guys hes played with (Caruso, Edwards, Embiid).

Embiid on the list is just trolling, Ant and Eagle are worthy but theres also no objective reason to take them over Smart. He’s just ridin with his boys. Which I guess is fair.

fourkicks44
01-04-2024, 07:39 PM
https://youtu.be/yrHiiZe-0lU?si=yAafO10j_CGM_XVj

warriorfan
01-04-2024, 09:01 PM
says who? Id definitely give more weight to composure/maturity than physical strength

with all due respect you are european and don’t play sports so there is a cultural and probably language barrier, plus you often show some glaring signs of autism

long story short you don’t get it and probably never will. best to just move on to the next one

BarberSchool
01-05-2024, 12:24 AM
Real old school gangsters didn't need to talk much. You just got whacked and that was it. There's a lot fake tough guys in NBA like pat bev that would get smoked on the street for running their mouth because in the NBA they know any scuffle is gonna get broken up quickly with little to no damage inflicted.
I don’t even like Pat. But in his defense, he is from the far west side of chicago, in the Austin neighborhood. Austin led the city in murder in 03 & 06, and he grew up in that. Austin is like a denser, more murderous, more heroin infested Chicago/Detroit/Memphis hybrid.

For east coasters, imagine Brownsville Brooklyn + CamdenNJ put together, but with way more organized gang structure and ALLEYWAYS for way more activity where cops literally won’t even go unless they have full body armor and a damn task force with em. Also way more heroin and 3x as many guns. And senseless “Memphis-style” ignorance mixed in.

So Pat ain’t no fake tough guy, Pat would beat the brakes off many PF’s just off guff alone.