Jerry Krause's wife in tears as Bulls fans boo him during Ring of Honor night

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd8uPh2Fz8

Disgraceful. This man helped bring 6 rings and got Pippen when MJ wanted Joe Wolf, but fans boo his wife simply because MJ didn't like him.

[Xiao Yao You]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

[SATAN]

These MJ stans have no class at all. :kobe:

[SATAN]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

Holding a grudge for decades about nothing particularly important in the grand scheme of things and booing dead guys in front of their weeping widows. Stay classy.

[Full Court]

These MJ stans have no class at all. :kobe:

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[1987_Lakers]

Drafted Pippen/Grant
Brought in Phil
Drafted Kukoc in the 2nd round
Somehow Traded Purdue for Rodman
6 rings

Broke up a team that was old as shit and had a slim chance of winning the next season, but hey, lets boo him for eternity simply because MJ told us to do so. :oldlol:

[fourkicks44]

Who the f'ck was that talking?

"The worst thing I have ever seen in my life"?

F"ck outta here. Watch CNN for 5 minutes and you will see multitudes of atrocities that don't even compare to booing at a basketball game.

Second, "that's not Chicago, that's New York, Philly,". I'll tell you right now in Philadelphia NOBODY that ever brings and championship or his wife would EVER get booed, ever.

Enough with the holier than thou shit, buddy.

[imdaman99]

This fkr MJ thinks it's so easy to be a GM, meanwhile he's one of the worst ever. Remind me what he did with Charlotte. This was indeed disgraceful. MJ and his last dance bullshit fluffpiece. Imagine thinking 6 championships is not enough that you gotta boo a dead man and make his wife cry. How many of those losers at the game were even fans of the team or going to games in the 90s when they were winning? NONE

[Kblaze8855]

Definitely a bad look. It’s the widow of an executive who died being honored. What’s the goal? Piss on his grave to hurt his loved ones? We aren’t talking about a child molester or a mass murderer here. This old lady came out here because her late husbands work was being honored and she was hurt by the reception. It’s not too much to ask to be decent. Dude is dead. He can’t hear you booing and his “crimes” hardly rise to the level of eternal hatred of his bloodline and loved ones.

[Kblaze8855]

Who the f'ck was that talking?

"The worst thing I have ever seen in my life"?

F"ck outta here. Watch CNN for 5 minutes and you will see multitudes of atrocities that don't even compare to booing at a basketball game.

Second, "that's not Chicago, that's New York, Philly,". I'll tell you right now in Philadelphia NOBODY that ever brings and championship or his wife would EVER get booed, ever.

Enough with the holier than thou shit, buddy.


stacey King. He was on the first Bulls threepeat. He definitely knew Jerry and presumably his wife as well. Steve Kerr was pretty pissed off as well.

[bison]

I don’t get the Krause hate in Chicago. You’d think being subjected to 16 years of GarPax bulls fans would be a little more thankful for the Krause era.

[Axe]

Jordan probably thought that krause was the big bad devil on the team due to how fiery the latter is and how he treated everyone in there before. But damn, that was a long time ago. Time to let go of the grudge and just appreciate whatever was delivered to the team during the 90s dynasty. Like what was said on realgm before, krause also deserved strong credit and respect for all of his contributions bt. Although asking too much for it seems a bit inappropriate.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTYeHLMDvUE

[fsvr54]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

They're not happy with 6 rings?!?! Talk about extreme entitlement. I'd be happy if the Hawks win ONCE in my entire lifetime.

[Spurs m8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd8uPh2Fz8

Disgraceful. This man helped bring 6 rings and got Pippen when MJ wanted Joe Wolf, but fans boo his wife simply because MJ didn't like him.

Op crying like his wife....little midget b1tch

[ILLsmak]

Definitely a bad look. It’s the widow of an executive who died being honored. What’s the goal? Piss on his grave to hurt his loved ones? We aren’t talking about a child molester or a mass murderer here. This old lady came out here because her late husbands work was being honored and she was hurt by the reception. It’s not too much to ask to be decent. Dude is dead. He can’t hear you booing and his “crimes” hardly rise to the level of eternal hatred of his bloodline and loved ones.

Yea that's what I was thinking... cuz tbh I didn't remember. I was like is dude dead? If dude is dead that's beyond callous. If he was alive it would be totally ok. The fact that it was his wife made me think he might be, but yeah... wow. That's ****ed up. Ain't got nothing to do w/ bball either.

-Smak

[Lebron23]

He ended the dynasty at the right time. Bulls would have been like the current Warriors

[Hey Yo]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

Zero chance MJ would have comeback for the 99 season even if no changes were made. He said he was spent mentally and physically (again) so he would have quit again regardless.

[Xiao Yao You]

Drafted Pippen/Grant
Brought in Phil
Drafted Kukoc in the 2nd round
Somehow Traded Purdue for Rodman
6 rings

Broke up a team that was old as shit and had a slim chance of winning the next season, but hey, lets boo him for eternity simply because MJ told us to do so. :oldlol:

MJ had never lost in a finals and they had a slim chance? MJ told them to boo him?

[ImKobe]

Op crying like his wife....little midget b1tch

:roll:


Disrespectful af but it's funny at the same time. Bulls fans have the right to be upset with Krause, and they've boo'd him since the damn 90s so this has been a tradition. They boo'd him with his wife & kid right there with him in like '03. I think with him dying they should have moved on tho, but tbh the Bulls ****ed up organizing this because they should have shown the widow first, they went from boos to cheers once they realized she was there.

[Kblaze8855]

Really is pretty idiotic. It’s not quite as bad as booing Belichick in Boston because they Got rid of Brady a year or two early. Not quite that bad since Bill was the coach as well. But it’s the next dumbest thing. He could’ve ****ed up the team, and be a complete unknown like Stu Inman. You don’t even know who that is but he drafted Sam Bowie instead of Jordan. If he’s being honored after passing I promise you it wouldn’t be met with boos of him bringing his family to tears.

Dude is dishonored even in death like he’s a terrorist or something for building one of the greatest teams of all time that broke up a little early. He got the right pieces around Jordan and the right coach and ran a great organization. He gets shitted on in death because it could have been slightly greater?

Decency isn’t too much to ask for. Literally bringing a little old lady trying to honor her husband to tears because 6 rings aren’t enough…

[Hey Yo]

Op crying like his wife....little midget b1tch

7-30

-145

:roll:

[Baller234]

Classless.

Even if Krause is responsible for the breakup he also played a big hand in it's creation.

It's been 25 years. You won 6 championships. Move on.

[ArbitraryWater]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

Yeah, SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS...

you dont boo anyone that constructs a team that was one of the greatest dynasties ever. They at best had 1 more in them. Your logic doesnt check out.

[beasted]

Absolutely disgraceful. But we know that Chicago fans are 2nd cousins of Philly and Boston fans and are similarly out of bounds.

Her husband died and she has nothing to do with whatever negative things he did. Why would she deserve to be booed?

[SouBeachTalents]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it
They should boo a dead man and bring his widowed wife to tears because after winning six championships they MAYBE didn’t win a 7th? FOH :lol

[L.Kizzle]

It's 2024, what did you expect. The crowd starts to Boo home teams when they miss 4 shots in a row.

[meat]

That poor lady. That was sad.

[iamgine]

I mean, did they not know Krause was gonna get booed? If you don't want to hear the boos, then don't honor someone your fanbase clearly hates.

[Phoenix]

That Bulls team wasnt winning in 99. They were absolutely at the end of their rope in 98. Pippen was never the same after back surgery and Rodman's level of play wasn't worth the midseason trips to Vegas or playing wrestler in WCW.

[Phoenix]

I mean, did they not know Krause was gonna get booed? If you don't want to hear the boos, then don't honor someone your fanbase clearly hates.

How could they exclude him from a ceremony honouring the 90s Bulls dynasty, given his role? The entire thing was doomed to fail anyways with the Jordan/Pippen beef. That entire thing is sad to see if you grew up on that team.

[ArbitraryWater]

I mean, did they not know Krause was gonna get booed? If you don't want to hear the boos, then don't honor someone your fanbase clearly hates.

The Bulls fanbase doesnt "clearly hate" Krause.


Plus people hating you is no reason to take your honors away.

[beasted]

I mean, did they not know Krause was gonna get booed? If you don't want to hear the boos, then don't honor someone your fanbase clearly hates.

If you can find us even 1 other example of people booing an individual being honored (non political figure) over something from 25 years ago, I'll concede that you're right.

Otherwise, you're just talking. No way Bulls organization would know how fans would react.

[Hey Yo]

Typical MJ degenerates who are like school at 4 in the morning...

no class

[L.Kizzle]

How could they exclude him from a ceremony honouring the 90s Bulls dynasty, given his role? The entire thing was doomed to fail anyways with the Jordan/Pippen beef. That entire thing is sad to see if you grew up on that team.
The new generation is like that.
2 weeks ago Cedric the Entertainer was a loved comic, now all of the Black twitter thinks he's a hack because of Katt Williams.
Easily swindled.

[SaltyMeatballs]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it

Mother****er the team he assembled brought SIX championships. That's a massive accomplishment no matter how bad things ended between him and the organization. It was trashy of Bulls fans to still be booing him especially when he's dead and his wife was there.

You are such a glass half empty type of guy, it's ridiculous

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah, SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS...

you dont boo anyone that constructs a team that was one of the greatest dynasties ever. They at best had 1 more in them. Your logic doesnt check out.

you keep them together even if it's only one more.

[Xiao Yao You]

That Bulls team wasnt winning in 99. They were absolutely at the end of their rope in 98. Pippen was never the same after back surgery and Rodman's level of play wasn't worth the midseason trips to Vegas or playing wrestler in WCW.

than you bring in other pieces to play with the Goat

[Kblaze8855]

If you can find us even 1 other example of people booing an individual being honored (non political figure) over something from 25 years ago, I'll concede that you're right.

Otherwise, you're just talking. No way Bulls organization would know how fans would react.


The guy who moved the Browns to Baltimore would get booed in Cleveland if he returned to earth next to Jesus Christ and Jesus announced to the world, he(the owner) had chosen to take their place in hell so everybody goes to heaven. Cleveland would boo him during the press conference.

[Hey Yo]

Art Modell would even agree with that scenario.

[Jasper]

Drafted Pippen/Grant
Brought in Phil
Drafted Kukoc in the 2nd round
Somehow Traded Purdue for Rodman
6 rings

Broke up a team that was old as shit and had a slim chance of winning the next season, but hey, lets boo him for eternity simply because MJ told us to do so. :oldlol:

that is the biggest crock of shlt I ever heard.
That was his excuse for bring back a core that won 6 chips for you.
At the tie Chicago was royally pissed, and its like tards like you that will never get it.

**In my opinion people booing his name called out to the ring of honor, put a rim of shame on it.
His wife can go find another rich dick as far as I am concerned.

[SouBeachTalents]

that is the biggest crock of shlt I ever heard.
That was his excuse for bring back a core that won 6 chips for you.
At the tie Chicago was royally pissed, and its like tards like you that will never get it.

**In my opinion people booing his name called out to the ring of honor, put a rim of shame on it.
His wife can go find another rich dick as far as I am concerned.
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[Phoenix]

than you bring in other pieces to play with the Goat

Yeah well that's not the way it went down. As constructed, that 98 team wasn't winning in 99.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah well that's not the way it went down. As constructed, that 98 team wasn't winning in 99.

no it didn't because of Krause's ego

[Axe]

no it didn't because of Krause's ego
Do you happen to be a closet jordan stan hmm? :durantunimpressed:

[Xiao Yao You]

Do you happen to be a closet jordan stan hmm? :durantunimpressed:

you're not? He scored an awful lot of points

[beasted]

The guy who moved the Browns to Baltimore would get booed in Cleveland if he returned to earth next to Jesus Christ and Jesus announced to the world, he(the owner) had chosen to take their place in hell so everybody goes to heaven. Cleveland would boo him during the press conference.

You're probably right. But why would he be receiving honors in Cleveland when technically "his team" is in Baltimore?

[Phoenix]

no it didn't because of Krause's ego

Whatever the reason(s), the 98 team rolled out isn't winning in 99. Still classless display by the Bulls fans and I reckon if not for the Last Dance reopening that can, a significant number of fans in attendance likely weren't around in 98 and had no clue about the hows and whys of that team breaking up to boo in the first place.

[iamgine]

If you can find us even 1 other example of people booing an individual being honored (non political figure) over something from 25 years ago, I'll concede that you're right.

Otherwise, you're just talking. No way Bulls organization would know how fans would react.

Well has any team honor someone the fanbase clearly dont like? You'd hear some boos. It's not a difficult concept.

[beasted]

Well has any team honor someone the fanbase clearly dont like? You'd hear some boos. It's not a difficult concept.

Some? This is beyond the classification for "some".

Like I'm sure "some" fans booed Shaq when his jersey was retired with the Miami Heat.

This instead was a significant portion of those in attendance.

[iamgine]

Some? This is beyond the classification for "some".

Like I'm sure "some" fans booed Shaq when his jersey was retired with the Miami Heat.

This instead was a significant portion of those in attendance.

Sure, that's what happens when a team honor someone the fanbase clearly dont like.

[BarberSchool]

he broke up a 6 time championship team. There's good reason for it
He actively tried to get Phil Jackson fired in 1994 & 1995, and wanted Jordan traded after 1993.

If Krause had it his way, none of the second 3-peat would have happened without Michael or Phil.

[Xiao Yao You]

He actively tried to get Phil Jackson fired in 1994 & 1995, and wanted Jordan traded after 1993.

If Krause had it his way, none of the second 3-peat would have happened without Michael or Phil.

He had his way with Chandler and Curry

[BarberSchool]

Yeah, SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS...

you dont boo anyone that constructs a team that was one of the greatest dynasties ever. They at best had 1 more in them. Your logic doesnt check out.krause actively tried to break up the team BEFORE the second 3-peat.

Jerry Krause wanted Phil Jackson fired in 1994, 1995, AND …. 1996.
He had perpetually been trying to trade Jordan during the same years.
He was trying to trade Michael DURING the 1996 season.
Krause was the worst kind of insane, delusional, self-aggrandizing scout ever.

And he didn’t try to do it IN 1994, because he thought Michael was done for good. He hated that he wasn’t thanked more and wasn’t interviewed more (Jerry was hideously ugly with a terribly unlikable personality), given more props from the coach and players. He was insanely jealous of the attention and love they recieved, so much, that he publicly said:

“PLAYERS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, ORGANIZATIONS DO.”

Every single one of you in this thread, carrying water for this corpse, should know those facts.

[Phoenix]

Every single one of you in this thread, carrying water for this corpse, should know those facts.


I don't see much point in booing his 80 year old widow but maybe that's just me. Not really 'carrying water for the corpse'( speaking for myself of course).

[Real Men Wear Green]

I see how some of you are confused (and possibly autistic): this is not a debate about whether or not it was the right time to end the Bulls' dynasty. My personal thought is that you keep a championship team together so long as it is winning championships if you can (personal and business issues may have been in the way in Chicago. I don't know for sure). But the actual reason why this was awful is that an 80 year-old lady was loudly booed by a full crowd. That was a bit nasty. Krause could have been the worst GM ever. Does that mean his wife deserves to be hated? It was excessively mean.

[iamgine]

No one booed his wife though. They booed Krause. They put a giant picture of him on screen.

[beasted]

No one booed his wife though. They booed Krause. They put a giant picture of him on screen.

Nearly all of those booing should have known he died over 6 years ago. Did they think he'd be listening from the grave? Who did they think would be there to receive their boos?

[Real Men Wear Green]

No one booed his wife though. They booed Krause. They put a giant picture of him on screen.

He is dead. She was there in his place. You are splitting hairs. She got booed.

[iamgine]

Nearly all of those booing should have known he died over 6 years ago. Did they think he'd be listening from the grave? Who did they think would be there to receive their boos?

People boo to express their dislike. No one think he'd be listening from the grave.

[iamgine]

He is dead. She was there in his place. You are splitting hairs. She got booed.

Not sure they even know who she is

[Real Men Wear Green]

Not sure they even know who she is

I'm sure they don't care. Watch the video in the op. She is announced in the tribute as his representative and put on the jumbotron. And booed.

[iamgine]

I'm sure they don't care. Watch the video in the op. She is announced in the tribute as his representative and put on the jumbotron. And booed.

Yeah. But it's not her they booed.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yeah. But it's not her they booed.

She was announced and put up on the jumbotron. Not much more I can tell you, what was done was obvious. Think what you will.

[Norcaliblunt]

You have to blame sports media for creating the narrative.

The writers, talking heads, and documentarians are the ones responsible for the way the fans feel.

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah. But it's not her they booed.

Maybe in theory. But she was the one there, and was booed. It doesn’t matter was the sentiment is.

You don’t have to be a fan of Krause, or you can even hate him and his decisions. But his 80-year-old widow was there and it was 25 years ago. It’s just kind of icky.

[Norcaliblunt]

This is classic blame the people for the narrative that the media and ruling class created. Lol.

I mean Jordan and Jackson can publicly diss a dead man through out a 10 part major media production that millions of people watched including probably Krause’s loved ones, but some fans booing at a game is off limits. Lmao.

Y’all media made that bed. Now lay in it.

[iamgine]

Maybe in theory. But she was the one there, and was booed. It doesn’t matter was the sentiment is.

You don’t have to be a fan of Krause, or you can even hate him and his decisions. But his 80-year-old widow was there and it was 25 years ago. It’s just kind of icky.

In practice too. They were booing Krause. She just happens to be there.

[SATAN]

You have to blame sports media for creating the narrative.

The writers, talking heads, and documentarians are the ones responsible for the way the fans feel.

People have their own brains. These Bulls fans happen to be morons. The blame is on them. Not that they would care anyway.

[Axe]

People have their own brains. These MJ stans happen to be morons. The blame is on them. Not that they would care anyway.
Ftfy

[ShawkFactory]

In practice too. They were booing Krause. She just happens to be there.

What do you mean “happens to be there”? She was accepting the honor for her late husband. It’s not some random coincidence.

[iamgine]

What do you mean “happens to be there”? She was accepting the honor for her late husband. It’s not some random coincidence.

I mean happens to be the one accepting.

[Jasper]

krause actively tried to break up the team BEFORE the second 3-peat.

Jerry Krause wanted Phil Jackson fired in 1994, 1995, AND …. 1996.
He had perpetually been trying to trade Jordan during the same years.
He was trying to trade Michael DURING the 1996 season.
Krause was the worst kind of insane, delusional, self-aggrandizing scout ever.

And he didn’t try to do it IN 1994, because he thought Michael was done for good. He hated that he wasn’t thanked more and wasn’t interviewed more (Jerry was hideously ugly with a terribly unlikable personality), given more props from the coach and players. He was insanely jealous of the attention and love they recieved, so much, that he publicly said:

“PLAYERS DONT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, ORGANIZATIONS DO.”

Every single one of you in this thread, carrying water for this corpse, should know those facts.

perfect POST of what transpired in Chicago at the time. (I live in the chicago area at the time)
People and specially these ISH posters are to young to know what happened .

Chicago hated him , but it is what it is.
Why do you think they did this ring of circle ??
decades later , so people would forget about what a prick and ass-hole he was.

[Jasper]

Really is pretty idiotic. It’s not quite as bad as booing Belichick in Boston because they Got rid of Brady a year or two early. Not quite that bad since Bill was the coach as well. But it’s the next dumbest thing. He could’ve ****ed up the team, and be a complete unknown like Stu Inman. You don’t even know who that is but he drafted Sam Bowie instead of Jordan. If he’s being honored after passing I promise you it wouldn’t be met with boos of him bringing his family to tears.

Dude is dishonored even in death like he’s a terrorist or something for building one of the greatest teams of all time that broke up a little early. He got the right pieces around Jordan and the right coach and ran a great organization. He gets shitted on in death because it could have been slightly greater?

Decency isn’t too much to ask for. Literally bringing a little old lady trying to honor her husband to tears because 6 rings aren’t enough…

wrong

[beasted]

perfect POST of what transpired in Chicago at the time. (I live in the chicago area at the time)
People and specially these ISH posters are to young to know what happened .

Chicago hated him , but it is what it is.
Why do you think they did this ring of circle ??
decades later , so people would forget about what a prick and ass-hole he was.

Everyone who hated him should know he's dead. I ask again, who are they expecting to hear and/or receive his boos?

The organization? "Yeah, don't honor that guy around here!" Is that the message they were trying to send? Stupid if you ask me.

The closest I can compare this to in my own fan circle is Jeffrey Loria of the Miami Marlins. He's lied to the fans multiple times, cheated the city into building a stadium, etc. If the Marlins were doing something to honor all present and former owners and his name came on the jumbotron, I'd definitely boo as well. Would I boo if I knew he was dead and his widow was there who had no part of the business? Likely not.

So I wonder if this is an awareness issue or are people indifferent about it?

[Xiao Yao You]

Everyone who hated him should know he's dead. I ask again, who are they expecting to hear and/or receive his boos?

The organization? "Yeah, don't honor that guy around here!" Is that the message they were trying to send? Stupid if you ask me.

The closest I can compare this to in my own fan circle is Jeffrey Loria of the Miami Marlins. He's lied to the fans multiple times, cheated the city into building a stadium, etc. If the Marlins were doing something to honor all present and former owners and his name came on the jumbotron, I'd definitely boo as well. Would I boo if I knew he was dead and his widow was there who had no part of the business? Likely not.

So I wonder if this is an awareness issue or are people indifferent about it?

I believe they were the next franchise to sell off a championship team

[guy]

She was announced and put up on the jumbotron. Not much more I can tell you, what was done was obvious. Think what you will.

They showed Krause first on the Jumbotron which is when the boos started. She was already in tears and Ron Harper was consoling her once they switched to her.

[guy]

I’m a Bulls fan but they are clearly an idiotic organization. This whole thing was poorly done and timing was awful. For them to not anticipate Krause getting booed and have his old widow stuck in the middle of it was incredibly stupid. To plan this when Jordan and Pippen are in the middle of this ugly feud was stupid - forget about the Last Dance, Pippen’s book, etc. the whole thing with Marcus and Larsa is awkward, at least wait till they break up to do this. And at very least, don’t wait till 6 weeks before to plan this and make sure you get a commitment from all the key guys - Jordan, Pippen specifically to be able to make it.

[SATAN]

How crazy would it have been if she bawled her eyes out then dropped dead of a heart attack right there and then...

[Real Men Wear Green]

They showed Krause first on the Jumbotron which is when the boos started. She was already in tears and Ron Harper was consoling her once they switched to her.

They continued to book throughout her being announced. They're a bunch of assholes.

[WhiteKyrie]

They weren’t booing her morons. Jerry was booed. And he deserves to be booed. Fans can do what they like, within reason, as they paid. You don’t have to like or cheer for a moron who nearly broke up the dynasty prematurely and destroyed it from winning its 7th ring. His wife should’ve expected it. Bless her soul for letting Crumbs sweat over the top of her, but toughen up lady. Shouldn’t have even showed so she must be tone deaf to perceptions of Jerry. No one liked him when he was around. It’s been worse since more truths came to light. Reinsdorf should be booed too, he’s trash. He wasn’t even a good GM. Those boo’s were well earned for a variety of reasons. Both of them ran off Jackson, Pippen and the games greatest all time player. Tone deaf idiots. One just happens to have a lot of money.

[1987_Lakers]

They weren’t booing her morons. Jerry was booed. And he deserves to be booed. Fans can do what they like, within reason, as they paid. You don’t have to like or cheer for a moron who nearly broke up the dynasty prematurely and destroyed it from winning its 7th ring. His wife should’ve expected it. Bless her soul for letting Crumbs sweat over the top of her, but toughen up lady. Shouldn’t have even showed so she must be tone deaf to perceptions of Jerry. No one liked him when he was around. It’s been worse since more truths came to light. Reinsdorf should be booed too, he’s trash. He wasn’t even a good GM. Those boo’s were well earned for a variety of reasons. Both of them ran off Jackson, Pippen and the games greatest all time player. Tone deaf idiots. One just happens to have a lot of money.

No surprise you would post something like this, you also defended MJ's dick size.

[Axe]

They weren’t booing her morons. Jerry was booed. And he deserves to be booed. Fans can do what they like, within reason, as they paid. You don’t have to like or cheer for a moron who nearly broke up the dynasty prematurely and destroyed it from winning its 7th ring. His wife should’ve expected it. Bless her soul for letting Crumbs sweat over the top of her, but toughen up lady. Shouldn’t have even showed so she must be tone deaf to perceptions of Jerry. No one liked him when he was around. It’s been worse since more truths came to light. Reinsdorf should be booed too, he’s trash. He wasn’t even a good GM. Those boo’s were well earned for a variety of reasons. Both of them ran off Jackson, Pippen and the games greatest all time player. Tone deaf idiots. One just happens to have a lot of money.
Except reinsdorf never became a GM for the team, you absolute dumbass. :facepalm

[beasted]

I’m a Bulls fan but they are clearly an idiotic organization. This whole thing was poorly done and timing was awful. For them to not anticipate Krause getting booed and have his old widow stuck in the middle of it was incredibly stupid. To plan this when Jordan and Pippen are in the middle of this ugly feud was stupid - forget about the Last Dance, Pippen’s book, etc. the whole thing with Marcus and Larsa is awkward, at least wait till they break up to do this. And at very least, don’t wait till 6 weeks before to plan this and make sure you get a commitment from all the key guys - Jordan, Pippen specifically to be able to make it.

I'll ask you directly. What are they booing? Pretend you're the voice inside their heads. Is it:

A) "Don't honor that guy around here, Bulls office, he sucks."
B) "Fk, you Krause, dead or alive, and fk your widow too."
C) **Half-dunk asshole**... "What's going on, why's everyone booing? Oh well, might as well join in. BOO!"
D) Other

If other, please write in your response.

[guy]

I'll ask you directly. What are they booing? Pretend you're the voice inside their heads. Is it:

A) "Don't honor that guy around here, Bulls office, he sucks."
B) "Fk, you Krause, dead or alive, and fk your widow too."
C) **Half-dunk asshole**... "What's going on, why's everyone booing? Oh well, might as well join in. BOO!"
D) Other

If other, please write in your response.

I honestly think alot of people don't remember he's dead and then yes C, people just joining in on the booing. Doesn't mean it wasn't a dumb decision by the Bulls - bad timing for the ROH, and even if they decided to have it, have another family member represent him and/or maybe show the family member first before showing Krause, or don't have anyone represent him and save them the embarressment, or maybe Reinsdorf's snakey ass represent him etc.

[Phoenix]

I’m a Bulls fan but they are clearly an idiotic organization. This whole thing was poorly done and timing was awful. For them to not anticipate Krause getting booed and have his old widow stuck in the middle of it was incredibly stupid. To plan this when Jordan and Pippen are in the middle of this ugly feud was stupid - forget about the Last Dance, Pippen’s book, etc. the whole thing with Marcus and Larsa is awkward, at least wait till they break up to do this. And at very least, don’t wait till 6 weeks before to plan this and make sure you get a commitment from all the key guys - Jordan, Pippen specifically to be able to make it.

The two pivotal players over the entire dynasty from 91-98 beefing was guaranteed to produce no-shows, which would have tainted the entire thing. Heck, I wonder what the reception for Scottie would have been had he shown up. The upper management didn't read the room with all the controversy surrounding the key people.

[Wardell Curry]

The Bulls don't win 6 rings without Jerry Krause and Jordan's entire legacy as this God tier clear cut best player ever reputation goes up in smoke.

But let's just go ahead and continue to pretend it was only Jordan that won 6. No other players. No coaches. No executives. Just him.

Let's also ignore his failures and pretend they never happened.

Sounds like LeBron fans of today, tbh. Player fans who can't be honest or are too feeble minded to do so are the absolute worst types of fans.

[Wardell Curry]

By the way, Duncan > LeBron. Duncan > Jordan. Peace.

[guy]

The Bulls don't win 6 rings without Jerry Krause and Jordan's entire legacy as this God tier clear cut best player ever reputation goes up in smoke.

But let's just go ahead and continue to pretend it was only Jordan that won 6. No other players. No coaches. No executives. Just him.



Very debatable. He made a couple of great moves, nothing earth shattering. Outside of Jordan/Pippen everyone else were role players, largely replaceable. Even the credit for getting Rodman should be more given to the coaching/playing core because they were only able to get him for cheap because no other team wanted him and they were the only team that felt comfortable acquiring him because they felt their leadership could keep him in check.

I'm not even trying to downplay him specifically. GMs can get overrated. Once you have that 1-2 great players on a team, the rest doesn't really matter as much.

[paksat]

who cares? Is modern day basketball and it's players that boring to you that this is a thread?

[WhiteKyrie]

Very debatable. He made a couple of great moves, nothing earth shattering. Outside of Jordan/Pippen everyone else were role players, largely replaceable. Even the credit for getting Rodman should be more given to the coaching/playing core because they were only able to get him for cheap because no other team wanted him and they were the only team that felt comfortable acquiring him because they felt their leadership could keep him in check.

I'm not even trying to downplay him specifically. GMs can get overrated. Once you have that 1-2 great players on a team, the rest doesn't really matter as much.
And Thorn drafted MJ. Scottie was a nice move but profited from MJ’s tutelage and cultural influence

[sdot_thadon]

I mean I'm not even surprised to hear Jordan stans trying to justify this lol. The guy by most accounts was a piece of crap, but so were alot of the guys in the picture. He was the architect of the dynasty good, bad, or ugly and deserves some credit. Why wasn't Mj or Scottie booed for skipping the ceremony? What's telling is the Chicago paper writing an article like this about the situation

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2024/1/14/24038050/how-did-something-as-beautiful-as-six-nba-titles-become-so-unpleasant-blame-michael-jordan-bulls



The cult of Jordan helps explain why, all these years later, fans would boo the mention of deceased Bulls general manager Jerry Krause at that United Center event, bringing his widow, Thelma, to tears. It was as ugly as it sounded. Uglier, even......

.....MJ is cool, and if we robotically back everything he says and does, so are we. This is how delusion works.

Looked at from that vantage point, the booing that made Krause’s widow cry wasn’t nearly as outrageous as one might think. I’d argue that it was predictable, in that human nature is predictable. The normally baaing sheep, now booing obediently....

Damn.

[Wardell Curry]

Very debatable. He made a couple of great moves, nothing earth shattering. Outside of Jordan/Pippen everyone else were role players, largely replaceable. Even the credit for getting Rodman should be more given to the coaching/playing core because they were only able to get him for cheap because no other team wanted him and they were the only team that felt comfortable acquiring him because they felt their leadership could keep him in check.

I'm not even trying to downplay him specifically. GMs can get overrated. Once you have that 1-2 great players on a team, the rest doesn't really matter as much.

Coaches are more overrated than GMs, but they all matter.

Let's break down what Krause did.


Assembled the entirety of the first three peat Bulls (except for Jordan).
This includes, but is not limited to:
Trading for Scottie Pippen on draft day.
Drafting Horace Grant. Jordan wanted Joe Wolf. :oldlol:
Traded Oakley for Bill Cartwright, which Jordan threw a fit over.
Drafted BJ Armstrong.
Pulled Phil Jackson out of complete obscurity on the coaching scene and eventually made him the head coach.
Hired Tex Winter who basically created the offense for the entire Bulls dynasty.

Second three peat:
Signed Steve Kerr who went on to become the all time leader in three point shooting percentage in NBA HISTORY.
Drafted Tony Kukoc in 90 and eventually got him to come play in 94.
Traded Perdue for Rodman when nobody wanted him. This move might be slightly overrated because they could have just waived him and it wouldn't have been the end of the world. Nevertheless, it worked, and it worked wonderfully.
Signed Ron Harper who was a fantastic contributor defensively on any/all guards.


Are you kidding? That guy made a plethora of brilliant moves. And just like all players, coaches and GMs have their primes too, and Krause peaked in the late 80s and early 90s.

Don't get me wrong, he definitely doesn't get 6 without Jordan. And maybe he gets 0, in fact I'd say it's likely. But I'm straight up telling you Jordan very likely gets only a couple maximum had Krause not been around.

Krause's biggest problem was that he was a bit of an asshole and didn't deal well with people. But a serious argument can be made that he's up there at the top of the top of GMs in the history of the NBA. He's up there with West, that's for sure.

The Bulls won 55 games in 1994 without Jordan. Krause put together a hell of a team. The fact that they won 55 games the very year after the departure of arguably the greatest player ever should say everything there is to say about how good those Bulls teams actually were regardless of Jordan, but here we are, with the myth that it was just him. And it'll probably only grow further in that direction over time, lol.

[WhiteKyrie]

Who knows why Cuckboy Brahn Stains are embellishing this, given Bron’s transgressions with multiple fan bases where his jersey were burned and people saw him for the pathetic piece of shit he is known by anyone with an IQ to be. Players, coaches and GMs if unlikable can be booed. Fans have that right. I guess not everyone can be a coward and get everybody thrown out who boo’s or doesn’t say something they like like soft ass LeBeta or Westbitch.

[Xiao Yao You]

Coaches are more overrated than GMs, but they all matter.

Let's break down what Krause did.


Assembled the entirety of the first three peat Bulls (except for Jordan).
This includes, but is not limited to:
Trading for Scottie Pippen on draft day.
Drafting Horace Grant. Jordan wanted Joe Wolf. :oldlol:
Traded Oakley for Bill Cartwright, which Jordan threw a fit over.
Drafted BJ Armstrong.
Pulled Phil Jackson out of complete obscurity on the coaching scene and eventually made him the head coach.
Hired Tex Winter who basically created the offense for the entire Bulls dynasty.

Second three peat:
Signed Steve Kerr who went on to become the all time leader in three point shooting percentage in NBA HISTORY.
Drafted Tony Kukoc in 90 and eventually got him to come play in 94.
Traded Perdue for Rodman when nobody wanted him. This move might be slightly overrated because they could have just waived him and it wouldn't have been the end of the world. Nevertheless, it worked, and it worked wonderfully.
Signed Ron Harper who was a fantastic contributor defensively on any/all guards.


Are you kidding? That guy made a plethora of brilliant moves. And just like all players, coaches and GMs have their primes too, and Krause peaked in the late 80s and early 90s.

Don't get me wrong, he definitely doesn't get 6 without Jordan. And maybe he gets 0, in fact I'd say it's likely. But I'm straight up telling you Jordan very likely gets only a couple maximum had Krause not been around.

Krause's biggest problem was that he was a bit of an asshole and didn't deal well with people. But a serious argument can be made that he's up there at the top of the top of GMs in the history of the NBA. He's up there with West, that's for sure.

The Bulls won 55 games in 1994 without Jordan. Krause put together a hell of a team. The fact that they won 55 games the very year after the departure of arguably the greatest player ever should say everything there is to say about how good those Bulls teams actually were regardless of Jordan, but here we are, with the myth that it was just him. And it'll probably only grow further in that direction over time, lol.

Oakley was better than Cartwright if they could have thought outside the box in those days. They saw it as either Horace or Oakley instead of playing them together. Cartwright gave them some post play which with MJ isn't really what they needed. Oakley would have spaced the floor more, rebounded more and been a better defender. Cartwright was just one of many role playing centers they plugged in the triangle over the years. No reason Oakley couldn't have been too.

Winning without MJ was more about Phil than anyone. Certainly didn't win without Grant the year after that