Why isn't Lebron retired yet?

[Walk on Water]

I don't know why Lebron is still playing. He's not a great quality player anymore. I don't care what his numbers say. It doesn't translate into winning basketball, especially when you use age as an excuse to not play defense.

Is he still playing just to try to play with his son? Is that the main reason? He already got the scoring record. Now he's just dragging the Lakers organization down. What is his goal?

[bullettooth]

I don't know why Lebron is still playing. He's not a great quality player anymore. I don't care what his numbers say. It doesn't translate into winning basketball, especially when you use age as an excuse to not play defense.

Is he still playing just to try to play with his son? Is that the main reason? He already got the scoring record. Now he's just dragging the Lakers organization down. What is his goal?

He never really has if we're being honest.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Because he makes 48 mil per year to play basketball. If you think about it, that's a stupid question.

[Kblaze8855]

I don’t know why you feel the need to hide behind this alt at this point but…..


Pretty much nobody retires when they’re as good as Lebron is today. Add 40-50 million a year in earnings and there’s no reason not to play.


Tragedies like Drazen aside, how many All-Stars even retire as 20 points per game players? Bird in half a season. Jerry West in half a season. Jordan was healthy, but he was further from being Jordan than LeBron is from being LeBron. Who else? Clyde Drexler?

The best player to ever retire might well be Wilt Chamberlain, even though he wasn’t choosing to shoot at the end. And he tried to go be player coach in the ABA but the nba didn’t let him.

whatever level you put LeBron on now it’s probably the highest level for anyone to voluntarily quit playing basketball if he had done so already. It’s got to be him or final season wilt assuming you consider quitting the NBA then being sued to prevent coming back In the ABA to be voluntarily retiring.

it’s possible, nobody ever walked away while being as good as he has been recently, and they definitely weren’t being paid more than a fraction of what he’s making right now, so it’s kind of a ridiculous question.

[warriorfan]

it also has never been easier to score 20ppg

[Im Still Ballin]

I wonder who is getting traded this year. It seemed like LA had found a really solid roster of players last season. I'm not sure what to make of their poor play. Seems like this happens every year with LeBron's teams. 6 of the last 7 years.

I do sometimes wonder whether LeBron's leadership may play a factor.

[warriorfan]

I wonder who is getting traded this year. It seemed like LA had found a really solid roster of players last season. I'm not sure what to make of their poor play. Seems like this happens every year with LeBron's teams. 6 of the last 7 years.

I do sometimes wonder whether LeBron's leadership may play a factor.

Well I imagine with playing with LeBron, when things go well he takes the credit snd when things go south he’s not going to take accountability. Mix that in with him being unwilling to play off ball and play defense consistently…Some of LBJ’s classic passive aggressiveness….Doesn’t seem like a good place to be.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I wonder who is getting traded this year. It seemed like LA had found a really solid roster of players last season. I'm not sure what to make of their poor play. Seems like this happens every year with LeBron's teams. 6 of the last 7 years.

I do sometimes wonder whether LeBron's leadership may play a factor.

There is no speech he can make that will overcome a lack of talent. They might have one guy that deserves AllNBA (AD may be 2nd or 3rd team worthy of he stays healthy) and they are not particularly good at anything on offense or defense. They have an average team and that normally leads to .500 basketball.

[Kblaze8855]

it also has never been easier to score 20ppg

Well he’s doing considerably more than that but it was a nice round number…and still….people retired in the 60s as well. Which reminds me…..Bob Pettit. Probably the most productive guy to retire by choice. He had to still be around 20/14.

[highwhey]

I don’t know why you feel the need to hide behind this alt at this point but…..




tell us, which low life is behind this account?

[Baller234]

Most all time greats would have continued playing if their bodies didn't break down.

Although I will say that when it comes to someone like Bron, I don't think he can handle not being in the spotlight. Playing basketball keeps him on TV eight months out of the year. It keeps him relevant.

After his basketball career is over I'm sure he'll venture into other media but he's not really all that talented so I could see people getting sick and bored with him. I don't think anybody cares to watch Lebron James if it isn't basketball related.

[bison]

I wonder who is getting traded this year. It seemed like LA had found a really solid roster of players last season. I'm not sure what to make of their poor play. Seems like this happens every year with LeBron's teams. 6 of the last 7 years.

I do sometimes wonder whether LeBron's leadership may play a factor.

With what’s available out there and with teams asking for Austin instead of D’lo, there aren’t a lot of moves to be made if lakers are firm on keeping Austin. Which is all well and good. Lakers could use a decent two way player and another big to relieve AD of rim protection. Other than that roster is fine as it is. The problem is they aren’t utilized correctly. Bizarre starting lineups where it’s all wing guys, playing prince 35 minutes a game or allow cam to continue to start are all head scratching decisions. I liked how d lo and Austin looked last night starting together. Ham needs to end the experiments and go back to the vando/Austin/Russell/bron/AD lineups and start to give max Christie cam’s minutes.

[3ba11]

I don’t know why you feel the need to hide behind this alt at this point but…..


Pretty much nobody retires when they’re as good as Lebron is today.





That's the fallacy - that he's still good - 25 ppg is nothing in today's game - there aren't a zillion people doing it but many guys could do it if they had Lebron's opportunity and green light. And Lebron is expending all his energy to get those numbers compared to his younger self that would get those numbers with ease while still trying to elevate teammates, and while still having the energy to be an athletic presence that wears down opponents on both ends (running the floor, battling for rebounds, being in the right place at right time by being able to cover the ground, etc, etc) - Lebron doesn't wear down anyone anymore and he GETS worn down, while not making the slightest attempt to elevate teammates.. He even throws them under the bus in post-game interviews.. And teams or defenders take it easy on him.. so who cares about his self-serving numbers in an easy era that allows them.. .. I remember when Paul Pierce said that playing against Jordan in 2003 was like playing 5-on-5 with 1 girl.. That's what it's like for Lebron too - defenders and teams rarely defend him vigorously and basically play him in a way that goes along with the mainstream narrative that has undoubtedly seeped into their subconscious (there's nothing else to seep in there - it's only LeMedia coverage).

[StrongLurk]

Lebron is the GOAT, he can do whatever he wants OP

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron is the GOAT, he can do whatever he wants OP
This.

[3ba11]

This.


Lebron is not a top 10 all-time player, let alone a goat candidate

The simplest way to break this down is as follows:

Lebron has horrible win-rates regardless of cast, so I understand you bums claiming that MJ's career was just a small sample size, but when we add the vastly superior win-rates of Curry, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, MJ and more, it's no longer an insufficient sample size - he's simply the biggest loser of any top 10 candidate and therefore not top 10.

Why does Lebron lose so much regardless of cast?.. it's because he lacks expert jumpshooting skill, which is bad for a perimeter player because it results in ball-dominance that hurts chemistry and strategic capacity/coaching, thereby yielding perennial underdogs regardless of cast.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron is not a top 10 all-time player.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.

[StrongLurk]

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

imagine that dude seeing a therapist...the therapist would have to end the session after five minutes :oldlol:

[Round Mound]

money

[WhiteKyrie]

it also has never been easier to score 20ppg

Especially the way LeBron scores them, how he scores them, against who he scores them and when he scores them. The most narrative controlling 20 something ppg scorer ever and given the state of the league, yes, never been easier to score 20 for even a slightly above average player.

[1987_Lakers]

He's still an all-star caliber player, why would he retire? Kobe was the worst player in the league for 3 years before he retired.

[WhiteKyrie]

He's still an all-star caliber player, why would he retire? Kobe was the worst player in the league for 3 years before he retired.

I wouldn’t go that far. And Kobe wasn’t the worst player in the league. Even if you delusionally hated a player enough to think that, and saying LeBron is an All Star like he’s an impact player and Kobe was “the worst player in the league” his last three seasons wasn’t revealing enough for being a) basketball stupid and b) dripping with agenda and homosexual bias.

Kobe had catastrophic injuries 3 seasons in a row.

2013 Achilles tear to end season dragging malcontents and bums to the playoffs (injury wise doesn't get worse)

2014 knee (barely played that season)

2015 shoulder injury by Christmas.

Then his hobbled final season. And worst player in the league can’t go 22 for 50 and drop 60 points. Try again Brahn Stain moron.

[1987_Lakers]

I wouldn’t go that far. And Kobe wasn’t the worst player in the league. Even if you delusionally hated a player enough to think that, and saying LeBron is an All Star like he’s an impact player and Kobe was “the worst player in the league” his last three seasons wasn’t revealing enough for being a) basketball stupid and b) dripping with agenda and homosexual bias.

Kobe had catastrophic injuries 3 seasons in a row.

2013 Achilles tear to end season dragging malcontents and bums to the playoffs (injury wise doesn't get worse)

2014 knee (barely played that season)

2015 shoulder injury by Christmas.

Then his hobbled final season. And worst player in the league can’t go 22 for 50 and drop 60 points. Try again Brahn Stain moron.

Kobe's final 3 seasons: Only played 107 games while averaging 19 ppg on 37 FG%. Yikes :oldlol:

Meanwhile, LeBron just won the In-season tournament and as I type this just beat a 27-11 OKC team.

[Walk on Water]

That's the fallacy - that he's still good - 25 ppg is nothing in today's game - there aren't a zillion people doing it but many guys could do it if they had Lebron's opportunity and green light. And Lebron is expending all his energy to get those numbers compared to his younger self that would get those numbers with ease while still trying to elevate teammates, and while still having the energy to be an athletic presence that wears down opponents on both ends (running the floor, battling for rebounds, being in the right place at right time by being able to cover the ground, etc, etc) - Lebron doesn't wear down anyone anymore and he GETS worn down, while not making the slightest attempt to elevate teammates.. He even throws them under the bus in post-game interviews.. And teams or defenders take it easy on him.. so who cares about his self-serving numbers in an easy era that allows them.. .. I remember when Paul Pierce said that playing against Jordan in 2003 was like playing 5-on-5 with 1 girl.. That's what it's like for Lebron too - defenders and teams rarely defend him vigorously and basically play him in a way that goes along with the mainstream narrative that has undoubtedly seeped into their subconscious (there's nothing else to seep in there - it's only LeMedia coverage).


This.

Why is it disrespectful to tell the truth?

[90sgoat]

I think it's great that Lebron keeps playing.

I don't think it's fair that the league for 10+ years now have changed rules to make him score more easily.

[Phoenix]

imagine that dude seeing a therapist...the therapist would have to end the session after five minutes :oldlol:

On the contrary, you can make a career out of someone needing that much help.

[warriorfan]

3ball doesn’t need help

His name ain’t lebron

[BlackMamba8]

I don’t know why you feel the need to hide behind this alt at this point but…..


Pretty much nobody retires when they’re as good as Lebron is today. Add 40-50 million a year in earnings and there’s no reason not to play.


Tragedies like Drazen aside, how many All-Stars even retire as 20 points per game players? Bird in half a season. Jerry West in half a season. Jordan was healthy, but he was further from being Jordan than LeBron is from being LeBron. Who else? Clyde Drexler?

The best player to ever retire might well be Wilt Chamberlain, even though he wasn’t choosing to shoot at the end. And he tried to go be player coach in the ABA but the nba didn’t let him.

whatever level you put LeBron on now it’s probably the highest level for anyone to voluntarily quit playing basketball if he had done so already. It’s got to be him or final season wilt assuming you consider quitting the NBA then being sued to prevent coming back In the ABA to be voluntarily retiring.

it’s possible, nobody ever walked away while being as good as he has been recently, and they definitely weren’t being paid more than a fraction of what he’s making right now, so it’s kind of a ridiculous question.

lmao hes an overrated bum.....relax

[WhiteKyrie]

LeBron James doesn’t have close to the impact that his stats would suggest. And with the massive inflation and pace and scoring league wide, he’s putting up his career averages, but it’s not the level of impact that it should be for the vast majority of his career, his number should actually have increased with the rest of the league, and if it wasn’t for a play in tournament, he wouldn’t be in the playoffs, the vast majority of his career with the Lakers

[aj1987]

LeBron James doesn’t have close to the impact that his stats would suggest. And with the massive inflation and pace and scoring league wide, he’s putting up his career averages, but it’s not the level of impact that it should be for the vast majority of his career, his number should actually have increased with the rest of the league, and if it wasn’t for a play in tournament, he wouldn’t be in the playoffs, the vast majority of his career with the Lakers

God damn, "coach", LeBron did a number on you.

[Xiao Yao You]

But the Lakers are losing James’ minutes by a wide margin over this span, outscored by 118 points when James is on the floor. It is his worst plus-minus over a 15-game stretch since joining the Lakers. “It’s just too much on Bron right now,” one rival player whose team recently defeated the Lakers told ESPN. “Everyone is just going to pack the paint and try to frustrate him because they need a lot. Speed. Playmaking. Shooting.” (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39326035/lebron-james-kyrie-irving-choice-haunts-los-angeles-lakers)
– via Ramona Shelburne @ ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39326035/lebron-james-kyrie-irving-choice-haunts-los-angeles-lakers)

[Nb1]

Just won his 5th chip 1 month ago being the best player in the league, but hey, keep living under a rock :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Just won his 5th chip 1 month ago being the best player in the league, but hey, keep living under a rock :roll:

:facepalm

[Shaquille O'Neal]

He's still chasing that ghost from Chicago, which he'll never catch.
Jordan is the gingerbread man to LBJ, and lives rent-free in his head.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Just won his 5th chip 1 month ago being the best player in the league, but hey, keep living under a rock :roll:

LOL. An early season CUP playing 7 games isn't a "chip". If it is, when's the ring ceremony? Kobe would have told you they don't celebrate anything but NBA championships in Los Angeles.