Does Wemby have GOAT potential?

[StrongLurk]

Now that he has been in the NBA for a bit...I honestly have to say yes he does have the "potential" to be the best player ever and is finally a legit "successor" to Lebron as a GOAT prospect.

Let's assume that Wemby stays healthy for 15 years. There is no doubt that this guy "could" develop into the best offensive player in the league while also being the best defender of all time.

Basically...it wouldn't surprise me at all if this dude got a quadruple double in a game this year, as a ROOKIE.

The issue with him is realistically speaking, the odds seem pretty high that he will face a lot of injuries and never reach his full potential. But even like half of his potential could still be a top twenty player of all time.

[Carbine]

All he can be is the best of his era. If he accomplishes that, he will have a place amongst the GOATs.

I personally don't think he has the potential to be the best offensive player in the league. Not unless Luka decides to play in another league.

[Axe]

That question depends on which position he'll be playing on. Would it be center or pf? And no matter how tall or long he is like a giraffe, he doesn't seem that invincible. I mean there's already been a handful of games in which he got blocked by scrubs or no-names significantly less taller than him. That is, despite him being a potential talent nowadays.

[SATAN]

This is the most hyped I've been about a player since LeBron tbh so I dunno if that is clouding my judgement. I think he's a very special talent but it's difficult to predict what happens from here. He seems to have "it" but GOAT might be a stretch. Top 30 wouldn't be surprising.

[FultzNationRISE]

All he can be is the best of his era. If he accomplishes that, he will have a place amongst the GOATs.


This.

Lebron is the unequivocal objective GOAT, but if Lebron didnt exist there would be no GOAT. Theres no genuine way to separate the top handful of players, especially across eras. Numerous guys have a legitimate argument.

Again, Lebron IS the GOAT, but after him there's no definitive title that applies to only one guy. It's just a contrived discussion point. It's not a real thing.

[90sgoat]

It's difficult to say because of players are much younger entering the league.

Overall, I have to say no, because Wemby is 20 years old and lacking the kind of impact that Luka and Lebron had in similar situations.

The thing to consider is that Kareem who is unanimously considered a goat candidate won 3 championships in college at Wembys age, then came into the league at 22 and averaged 29/15.

Likewise, Shaq also had 3 years of college and as a 20 year old rookie average 23/14.

Wemby is 20 btw, not 18.

Then the stats seem pretty obvious, Wemby is nowhere near a GOAT talent.

However, his chance is his physical ability, but he needs to use it to be considered a GOAT talent. He needs to learn the skyhook. He would be unblockable, unstoppable with even a halfway decent hook shot.

[Manny98]

Not a chance

[iamgine]

Currently only his body have GOAT potential.

There's also the skill, luck and mental aspect of it. Not to mention you need great teammates and coach to be GOAT. For now I haven't seen those yet.

[beasted]

Yes, based on his physical attributes and skill.

Considering how big men like KG, Dirk, Giannis transformed their body from their rookie seasons, combined with his 3 level scoring and passing potential, along with DPOY potential he can be as great as anyone. People can't compare guys like Shaq to Wemby. Shaq was a polished player, had a legit PG, and was in a big-man focused era. Wemby's idiotic teammates miss him all the time. They in fact have no real PG on that team. If they added say Kyle Anderson as the SF and Chris Paul at PG, Wemby would already be averaging 26 PPG as a rookie.

Though it comes down to the mental aspect: the desire to want to be the greatest ever. I'm not sure if he has that killer instinct.

[StrongLurk]

It's difficult to say because of players are much younger entering the league.

Overall, I have to say no, because Wemby is 20 years old and lacking the kind of impact that Luka and Lebron had in similar situations.

The thing to consider is that Kareem who is unanimously considered a goat candidate won 3 championships in college at Wembys age, then came into the league at 22 and averaged 29/15.

Likewise, Shaq also had 3 years of college and as a 20 year old rookie average 23/14.

Wemby is 20 btw, not 18.

Then the stats seem pretty obvious, Wemby is nowhere near a GOAT talent.

However, his chance is his physical ability, but he needs to use it to be considered a GOAT talent. He needs to learn the skyhook. He would be unblockable, unstoppable with even a halfway decent hook shot.

I guess my point is his upside is just absurd. Yeah he is still raw, but as a "prospect", I just see him potentially being able to do literally anything on the court on offense/defense. How many guys have we ever said that about?

I mean, Wemby's potential on defense certainly exceeds what MJ/Lebron could potentially do. Wemby being raw now doesn't mean too much. He could end up as the best player in the league in 4-5 years, so at 24-25 years old.

[StrongLurk]

Yes, based on his physical attributes and skill.

Considering how big men like KG, Dirk, Giannis transformed their body from their rookie seasons, combined with his 3 level scoring and passing potential, along with DPOY potential he can be as great as anyone. People can't compare guys like Shaq to Wemby. Shaq was a polished player, had a legit PG, and was in a big-man focused era. Wemby's idiotic teammates miss him all the time. They in fact have no real PG on that team. If they added say Kyle Anderson as the SF and Chris Paul at PG, Wemby would already be averaging 26 PPG as a rookie.

Though it comes down to the mental aspect: the desire to want to be the greatest ever. I'm not sure if he has that killer instinct.

Yeah this is how I'm feeling. The mental aspect is the hardest to predict for any player.

[Phoenix]

I still think his most valuable asset to a team will be his defense. The guy is so long he can pretty much cover from post to the 3point line in 2 strides. What's out of position for most players defensively is less an issue for him due to length, so the threat of the block is ever-present and guys will be missing shit they otherwise wouldn't.

Being a GOAT though, takes a special set of circumstances. Who you play with, his health, his mindset to go out and be the best every game, we can't account for what we don't know yet. Obviously the raw potential is there.

[iamgine]

The biggest thing to consider in injury. To be GOAT, he'd need to have otherworldly offense. In order to do that, he'd have to shoulder a lot of burden. There is almost no chance a 7'4 guy will last even 10 years playing the way he need to be GOAT.

[90sgoat]

Yeah this is how I'm feeling. The mental aspect is the hardest to predict for any player.

That's actually what I think makes it possible for Wemby to become a great player.

He has a very natural feel for the game and a desire to make the right plays. It's the skill that can't catch up with what he wants to do.

His understanding of the game is already at a high level, probably helps to see everything from second floor.

I just really, really hope someone tells him to get a hook shoot. If anyone should attempt to learn a baby hook then it's Wemby. He would be unblockable, but that would require some real effort and I guess we'll see if he wants to put in the hours or if he's content like Zion to get by on potential

[90sgoat]

Considering how big men like KG, Dirk, Giannis transformed their body from their rookie seasons, combined with his 3 level scoring and passing potential, along with DPOY potential he can be as great as anyone.

I feel as if KG is the best comparison for Wemby.

They are similar in their build, their length, their ability to play defense, to run the floor, pass the ball and their varied offense.

They also have some of the same issues with lack of strength, lack of post game.

Wemby should take notes from Garnett and get stronger, get really good on defense and try to run the floor and pass the ball.

[elementally morale]

I cannot tell from this season. At all.

First things first: He needs to become the star of his own team. He is not. As far as media hype, he sure is. On the floor he isn't. He is the best player on the Spurs but the team doesn't play like it. It's a coach approach and/or organisation decision issue. We have to see a Wembanyama centered team and what he looks like that way. The Nuggets had to make that decision and they made the right one when deciding in favor of Jokic as their starting center along with a huge role in the offense. Wemby will not play PG or point-center but he has to become a focal point on offense in some way. Right now he is just 'one of their starters'. His minutes are limited at 28.4 per game. Takes 16 shots but half of those are not designed plays which is bad.

I think we don't have the information. We need to see him in a bigger role which will probably happen next year.

[StrongLurk]

I cannot tell from this season. At all.

First things first: He needs to become the star of his own team. He is not. As far as media hype, he sure is. On the floor he isn't. He is the best player on the Spurs but the team doesn't play like it. It's a coach approach and/or organisation decision issue. We have to see a Wembanyama centered team and what he looks like that way. The Nuggets had to make that decision and they made the right one when deciding in favor of Jokic as their starting center along with a huge role in the offense. Wemby will not play PG or point-center but he has to become a focal point on offense in some way. Right now he is just 'one of their starters'. His minutes are limited at 28.4 per game. Takes 16 shots but half of those are not designed plays which is bad.

I think we don't have the information. We need to see him in a bigger role which will probably happen next year.

Ironically, I think this shows he does have insane potential. He is currently on a dysfunctional team with no identity...and yet he is still putting up 20/10/3/1/3. Sure his advanced stats aren't the best and his TS is low...but he is making something good out of nothing.

The next 3-4 years will be massive in his development and I expect him to have a Lebron/Luka type leap into quick superstardom.

The BEST thing Wemby has is his defensive "floor" is higher than Lebron and Luka's.

[Im Still Ballin]

Sure. Why not.

[ILLsmak]

Now that he has been in the NBA for a bit...I honestly have to say yes he does have the "potential" to be the best player ever and is finally a legit "successor" to Lebron as a GOAT prospect.

Let's assume that Wemby stays healthy for 15 years. There is no doubt that this guy "could" develop into the best offensive player in the league while also being the best defender of all time.

Basically...it wouldn't surprise me at all if this dude got a quadruple double in a game this year, as a ROOKIE.

The issue with him is realistically speaking, the odds seem pretty high that he will face a lot of injuries and never reach his full potential. But even like half of his potential could still be a top twenty player of all time.

No, like I said, dude is not gonna be for the same reason Bron is... too different athletically. Bron, Shaq, Wemby, those dudes are just out of this world talented. A guy like MJ was right under them, but he could maintain a chip on his shoulder because it was possible someone could take his spot.

Wemby has a longer way to go because his skillset isn't $$$ for the league as it is, like Bron's and Shaq's were, but I dunno if Bron ever played against a player that was anywhere close to as good as he was, even tho KD superteamed him, same w/ Shaq. I doubt Wemby will, either. You need to get sonned like MJ did, by BOS, by DET...

Bron had trouble with Detroit and SAS, but it wasn't the same situation at all. Bron DID face some insurmountable odds in the finals, but it wasn't during his learning how to become a winner. He set the all time getting your ass kicked record vs the Spurs, but the 07 finals were probably the one that stick out, and I dunno how that's much different than Shaq's first finals. Wasn't supposed to be there, whatever.

MJ just getting bodied for like 8 years is pretty crazy when you think about how good he was and how much he was doing. I don't think we get 'THE GOAT' type MJ without that. I don't think Wemby will face that level of adversity. He'll more than likely be a highly regarded ATG.

Once again, like I said, he WILL be banging that 3, too.

-Smak

[Phoenix]

I cannot tell from this season. At all.

First things first: He needs to become the star of his own team. He is not. As far as media hype, he sure is. On the floor he isn't. He is the best player on the Spurs but the team doesn't play like it. It's a coach approach and/or organisation decision issue. We have to see a Wembanyama centered team and what he looks like that way. The Nuggets had to make that decision and they made the right one when deciding in favor of Jokic as their starting center along with a huge role in the offense. Wemby will not play PG or point-center but he has to become a focal point on offense in some way. Right now he is just 'one of their starters'. His minutes are limited at 28.4 per game. Takes 16 shots but half of those are not designed plays which is bad.

I think we don't have the information. We need to see him in a bigger role which will probably happen next year.

Yeah, ideally he should be on a team with strong veterans. Instead he's surrounded by other young players trying to secure their place in the league as well.

[StrongLurk]

Wemby's last 11 games.

ONLY 25mpg average and he's putting up 25/8/3 with 3.5 blocks per game. 64.2 TS%.

I am 100% on the hype train if Wemby can stay healthy. He is actually a better prospect than Luka (which is crazy) because Wemby has GOAT defensive potential too.

[StrongLurk]

Quick bump.

Yeah I've seen enough. Dude might have the highest ceiling out of any player ever. REALLY hoping this dude can get at least 10 healthy years in the NBA.

People always focus on offense when projecting hype/potential, but people should really be focusing on defense first. Wemby is basically starting out as a DPOY type guy...extremely rare to see. Since he basically has defense on lock, he just needs to build his offensive game over the next 5-6 years.