View Full Version : trumps second term would have no direction ??
Jasper
01-16-2024, 10:08 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/2nd-trump-presidency-health-care/story?id=106420828
he changes on a daily bases his views of how to manage our country.
Super
He wants to rid Obamacare
My wife is one it for 5 months and does not cost her a dime.
BAD idea - right trump ..
can't wait for other topics he will crise cross our needs.
TeflonDonTrump
01-16-2024, 10:12 PM
He will send your relatives back to whereever they came from
highwhey
01-16-2024, 10:15 PM
the healthcare marketplace is the stupidest fukken idea ever. obamacare somehow made the country's healthcare even worse.
Patrick Chewing
01-17-2024, 12:48 AM
So you acknowledge that Trump will be re-elected?
Lakers Legend#32
01-17-2024, 05:50 AM
Hate is not a direction.
BurningHammer
01-17-2024, 10:29 AM
Trump's direction now is to funnel as much money as possible to pay off his debt.
Energy and putting money in our pockets - "I twist and turn in bed thinking about how to make our country rich as hell again".
Problem is the (personal) tax cuts (put in place to last what he meant to be an 8 year [presidential] term) expire in 2025 so without anything happening most are going to have less in their paycheck. The theory is that less regulations and tax cuts spur the economy. Trump doesn't seem to be an austerity type - doesn't believe in cutting back - more getting growth and so preserve SS/Medicare, etc. IMO, you need to do both - cut back and get growth. I also think they need to gradually raise the age of SS to 70 for those in their 20s (hey, about the only Haley policy I like).
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/01/16/trump_i_twist_and_turn_in_bed_thinking_about_how_t o_make_our_country_rich_as_hell_again.html
Patrick Chewing
01-17-2024, 11:44 AM
What direction does Biden have?
https://media1.giphy.com/media/BU6R7enV0nWmGuKGUZ/giphy.gif
Lakers Legend#32
01-17-2024, 06:13 PM
So you acknowledge that Trump will be re-elected?
Trump "won" 46% of the electorate in '16 and 48% in '20.
That's his ceiling.
There is no way he can win unless Biden voters turn to Trump by the tens of millions and more.
There is no way that is going to happen.
Trump's campaign is conceding he will never win the popular vote and his only chance is through the non-democratic, outdated Electoral College.
bladefd
01-17-2024, 06:58 PM
Energy and putting money in our pockets - "I twist and turn in bed thinking about how to make our country rich as hell again".
Problem is the (personal) tax cuts (put in place to last what he meant to be an 8 year [presidential] term) expire in 2025 so without anything happening most are going to have less in their paycheck. The theory is that less regulations and tax cuts spur the economy. Trump doesn't seem to be an austerity type - doesn't believe in cutting back - more getting growth and so preserve SS/Medicare, etc. IMO, you need to do both - cut back and get growth. I also think they need to gradually raise the age of SS to 70 for those in their 20s (hey, about the only Haley policy I like).
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/01/16/trump_i_twist_and_turn_in_bed_thinking_about_how_t o_make_our_country_rich_as_hell_again.html
Republicans have been saying that since Reagan. Has it ever been proven to be true? Not that I want a billion laws or 90% tax rate. I'm just asking if it has been proven.
Republicans talk constantly about fiscal responsibility but haven't done shit for it in 60+ years since Eisenhower..
Of the last 16 presidents, 8 have been republican and 8 dem. The only republican to leave office with a smaller deficit than when they came in is Eisenhower. Yes, its a phenomenon we havent seen in 60 years. Bush had record spending, but in Trump’s defense Bush had 2 terms to do it. Trump is a “hold my beer” level federal spender, so when FISCAL CONSERVATIVES vote for these guys I’m thoroughly confused.
3 dems did this: FDR(ww2 was kinda a big deal), jfk the billionaire shill they put in to reverse the new deal benefit, and Jimmy Carter. Biden for all his faults is currently on pace for a much lower deficit than when he came into office.
Edit: every president has plenty to explain to the American people, but if we’re keeping score, the right has been by far more damaging and thus have more to explain if we’re looking at the past ~ 100 years.
Jasper
01-17-2024, 11:26 PM
Trump's direction now is to funnel as much money as possible to pay off his debt.
lmfao
Jasper
01-17-2024, 11:28 PM
Republicans have been saying that since Reagan. Has it ever been proven to be true? Not that I want a billion laws or 90% tax rate. I'm just asking if it has been proven.
Republicans talk constantly about fiscal responsibility but haven't done shit for it in 60+ years since Eisenhower..
I'll never forget when ronny said he will never raise tax's on the middle class.
Next day they were raised. :facepalm
Jasper
01-17-2024, 11:31 PM
If trump is elected , I will give him 6 months and our government will be under military rule , abolished by him , and Nazism will take hold a year later , so he can murder people that he doesn't like.
If trump is elected , I will give him 6 months and our government will be under military rule , abolished by him , and Nazism will take hold a year later , so he can murder people that he doesn't like.
We've already had 4 years of Trump. Why would you think he'd do all the above? Especially when he didn't do bolded when BML riots were raging.
It's like Dems think we all have no/short memories with their dictator/threat to democracy talk.
Lakers Legend#32
01-18-2024, 04:59 AM
If trump is elected , I will give him 6 months and our government will be under military rule , abolished by him , and Nazism will take hold a year later , so he can murder people that he doesn't like.
Then he will go after his supporters who did not support him enough.
TeflonDonTrump
01-18-2024, 05:07 AM
We've already had 4 years of Trump. Why would you think he'd do all the above? Especially when he didn't do bolded when BML riots were raging.
It's like Dems think we all have no/short memories with their dictator/threat to democracy talk.
That guy watches way too much cnn and rachel madcow
Jasper
01-18-2024, 07:39 PM
We've already had 4 years of Trump. Why would you think he'd do all the above? Especially when he didn't do bolded when BML riots were raging.
It's like Dems think we all have no/short memories with their dictator/threat to democracy talk.
Don Juan learned thru his first presidency what he can get away with.
Riot Jan 6th , people murdered and he was supposedly not connected. (If it was you or I , we would be in Jail)
Calling out Pence and saying he should be hanged --- IS A THREAT , he got away with.
(If it was you or I , we would be in Jail)
If he becomes president - he will destroy the government as well as our country , opening it up to military rule or Russian take over.
(Before that happens he will declare Nazism)
Meaning he will remove jews, latino's , mexicans and possibly blacks.
Don Juan learned thru his first presidency what he can get away with.
Riot Jan 6th , people murdered and he was supposedly not connected. (If it was you or I , we would be in Jail)
Calling out Pence and saying he should be hanged --- IS A THREAT , he got away with.
(If it was you or I , we would be in Jail)
If he becomes president - he will destroy the government as well as our country , opening it up to military rule or Russian take over.
(Before that happens he will declare Nazism)
Meaning he will remove jews, latino's , mexicans and possibly blacks.
You do realize Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism - kosher, the whole works. So Trump's gonna remove his daughter and 3 grandkids? Be reasonable.
Baller234
01-19-2024, 01:22 PM
Jasper is definitely trolling at this point.
That's all the anti-Trump brigade has left really. All of the fantasy made up narratives have been exposed.
Election night is gonna be a real doozy. I imagine the democrats will figure out a way to keep counting votes 3 weeks after.
Patrick Chewing
01-19-2024, 01:35 PM
I mean, with how negative the sentiment there is towards Biden right now, if he were to somehow win again, then you know the fix was in. Over 60% of Biden voters are having Buyer's Remorse right now, so to think that they would vote for him again next year is just downright foolish.
diamenz
01-19-2024, 03:10 PM
to think that they would vote for him again next year is just downright foolish.
never underestimate the power of fear over boogieman trump to get the rubes to the voting booths.
jasper's in panic mode. this man is flippin' out!
Baller234
01-19-2024, 03:18 PM
never underestimate the power of fear over boogieman trump to get the rubes to the voting booths.
jasper's in panic mode. this man is flippin' out!
You can fool people once, but you can't fool them all twice. Not even Obama got as many votes his 2nd time around. The luster had worn off and not as many people were energized.
Even if we ignore the fact that the dems cheated their ass off in 2020, you can't say they weren't energized to vote. Will they be as energized this time around? I really don't know. I think less and less people are buying into the Trump boogeyman stuff.
TeflonDonTrump
01-19-2024, 03:28 PM
You can fool people once, but you can't fool them all twice. Not even Obama got as many votes his 2nd time around. The luster had worn off and not as many people were energized.
Even if we ignore the fact that the dems cheated their ass off in 2020, you can't say they weren't energized to vote. Will they be as energized this time around? I really don't know. I think less and less people are buying into the Trump boogeyman stuff.
There are A LOT of stupid people in this world.
It's a long time until Nov - lots can happen including a conviction.
No matter what the polls say, the Dems have a far superior early/harvesting ballot game. It would be foolish to underestimate them. Remember the red wave that was supposed to happen in 2022 when even at the height of inflation, the Dems prevailed. Appropriate fear and humility.
bladefd
01-19-2024, 09:45 PM
I mean, with how negative the sentiment there is towards Biden right now, if he were to somehow win again, then you know the fix was in. Over 60% of Biden voters are having Buyer's Remorse right now, so to think that they would vote for him again next year is just downright foolish.
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Lakers Legend#32
01-20-2024, 03:18 AM
Over 60% of Biden voters are having Buyer's Remorse right now, so to think that they would vote for him again next year is just downright foolish.
What is the color in the sky you are living in Poopsie?
Is this non-sense something you got from your right-wing bubble?
Or did you just pull this out of your ass?
Nanners
01-21-2024, 10:03 AM
the healthcare marketplace is the stupidest fukken idea ever. obamacare somehow made the country's healthcare even worse.
look at the stock prices of every major insurance company pre and post obamacare... the entire thing was just a mechanism to funnel tremendous amounts of tax and citizen money into the healthcare industrial complex
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