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Lebron23
01-17-2024, 12:47 PM
Who’s the better nba player?

Kblaze8855
01-17-2024, 12:59 PM
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pandiani17
01-17-2024, 01:22 PM
IMO Dominique. Carmelo Anthony might be a more skilled scorer, but he didn't have leadership skills, rebounding abilities, etc. He lacked in some areas as a player, while Nique was a more well-rounded star. I am willing to listen to other people, though.

FultzNationRISE
01-17-2024, 02:22 PM
IMO Dominique. Carmelo Anthony might be a more skilled scorer, but he didn't have leadership skills, rebounding abilities, etc. He lacked in some areas as a player, while Nique was a more well-rounded star. I am willing to listen to other people, though.

I dont know the stats but I remember Melo as a good rebounder. Often rebounded a lot of his own misses in fact. Of which there was certainly no shortage of opportunity.

That said, all he knew how to do was go 1 on 1. He couldnt use his game to make the team around him stronger. Those kind of playrs are always the most overrated.

90sgoat
01-17-2024, 02:28 PM
Can't say much about Nique except his obvious entertainment value, but Melo is probably the star I've watched where he seemed to have the least impact on winning.

His only good seasons has been with other proven winners like AI and Kidd. That season in New York was definitely Jason Kidd, but of course same could be said for 2011 Mavs. Jason Kidd was just an incredible ceiling raiser.

The thing with Melo was that he was a ball stopper, a finesse shooter and a very unwilling passer. As he got older, he stopped driving, so didn't put pressure on defenses either.

I recognise his supreme skill, but he was inefficient, a player that clearly wanted to be Kobe, but didn't have the tenacity.

Xiao Yao You
01-17-2024, 02:31 PM
both highly overrated

bizil
01-19-2024, 11:13 PM
BOTH legends catch WAY MORE NEGATIVE ENERGY than they deserve. FOR STARTERS, if you are a true alpha dog scorer YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, that deserves a lot of respect. IF you are one of the league's top 5-7 most most marketable stars in your era, that deserves a lot of respect. And finally IF you have been an All Star and All NBA as many times as Nique and Melo were, that deserves a lot of respect.

BOTH were great scoring AND rebounding SF's. If you average 7-8 boards from the SF position, that's an elite clip. If you look at SF's in the league TODAY, not many of them are getting 7-8 boards a game like Nique and Melo. Thing is you have other legendaray SF's like Bron, Bird, KD, Hondo, Doc, Baylor, etc, who are more complete.

BUT that doesn't mean Nique and Melo gotta be disprespected. I would roll with Nique peak and GOAT wise over Melo. BUT there isn't a huge gap at all. Melo is the more skilled scorer. Hell one of the top 3 most skilled scorers ever at the SF. BUT Nique was so physically dominant AND very skilled at the same time scoring the rock. So give me Nique over Melo. At their best, BOTH were the top 2-3 SF in the world AND a top 10 player in the league in general. And as I stated earlier, had SUPERSTAR IT FACTOR to draw in casual fans.

bizil
01-19-2024, 11:19 PM
I dont know the stats but I remember Melo as a good rebounder. Often rebounded a lot of his own misses in fact. Of which there was certainly no shortage of opportunity.

That said, all he knew how to do was go 1 on 1. He couldnt use his game to make the team around him stronger. Those kind of playrs are always the most overrated.

Yep Melo was an ELITE rebounding SF. If you are getting 7-8 rebounds from the SF spot, that's elite rebounding. Nique and Melo BOTH qualify as elite rebounding SF's. Hell in 1990-1991 Nique put up 25.9 PPG and 9.0 RPG. That's flat out a GREAT CLIP for a SF!

WIth that said Melo was who he was. A FLAT OUT great scorer! He wasn't a player who could faclitate the offense or a point forward type. BUT that doesn't mean he was overrated at the same time. WHEN was Melo ever regarded as the best player in the league??? Melo at his best was a top 3 SF AND top 10 player in the league. That's not overrated! If somebody said Melo was the best player in the league at one point, THEN I would say he was overrated.

WE ALL KNOW the Kobes, Wades, and Brons were the EPITOME of the total package perimeter player in his era. BY THAT I mean great scoring, passing, rebounding, and defense for their position. HELL Stevie Wonder could see Melo wasn't that type of total package. BUT Melo WAS STILL a great player! Not just as great as the TOTAL PACKAGE perimeter players! IF ANYTHING guys like a Lenny Wilkens making NBA top 50 and top 75 team with NO ALL NBA TEAMS MADE are overrated!!! Lenny made top 50 over legends like Nique,Bob McAdoo, and Alex English! That's HELLA OVERRATED!!!

L.Kizzle
01-20-2024, 01:24 AM
Who would you rather have:
Bernard King or Alex English or Adrian Dantley or Dominique Wilkins?

L.Kizzle
01-20-2024, 01:35 AM
Yep Melo was an ELITE rebounding SF. If you are getting 7-8 rebounds from the SF spot, that's elite rebounding. Nique and Melo BOTH qualify as elite rebounding SF's. Hell in 1990-1991 Nique put up 25.9 PPG and 9.0 RPG. That's flat out a GREAT CLIP for a SF!

WIth that said Melo was who he was. A FLAT OUT great scorer! He wasn't a player who could faclitate the offense or a point forward type. BUT that doesn't mean he was overrated at the same time. WHEN was Melo ever regarded as the best player in the league??? Melo at his best was a top 3 SF AND top 10 player in the league. That's not overrated! If somebody said Melo was the best player in the league at one point, THEN I would say he was overrated.

WE ALL KNOW the Kobes, Wades, and Brons were the EPITOME of the total package perimeter player in his era. BY THAT I mean great scoring, passing, rebounding, and defense for their position. HELL Stevie Wonder could see Melo wasn't that type of total package. BUT Melo WAS STILL a great player! Not just as great as the TOTAL PACKAGE perimeter players! IF ANYTHING guys like a Lenny Wilkens making NBA top 50 and top 75 team with NO ALL NBA TEAMS MADE are overrated!!! Lenny made top 50 over legends like Nique,Bob McAdoo, and Alex English! That's HELLA OVERRATED!!!
To be fair, Lenny Wilkens peak was behind Oscar, West, Greer and Jones. He was also 2nd in MVP voting in 68 I believe and didn't make All-NBA. His team had the 2nd best record in the league as well. The four guard above him 1st Team Dave Bing and Oscar. 2nd team West and Greer. West and Greer didn't get a vote for MVP.
Has the be the strangest occurrence in NBA History.

John8204
01-20-2024, 06:27 AM
Well it really comes down to do you value being top ten in points or having 2 30 PPG seasons and being All NBA first team once to never being first team. I would give it to Wilkins

Xiao Yao You
01-20-2024, 06:42 PM
Who would you rather have:
Bernard King or Alex English or Adrian Dantley or Dominique Wilkins?

I'd probably go King>AD>English>Wilkens>Carmelo

Kblaze8855
01-20-2024, 07:11 PM
Who would you rather have:
Bernard King or Alex English or Adrian Dantley or Dominique Wilkins?

King
Nique/Melo tossup
Dantley
English

Scary enough Carmelo might be the best defender and passer of all 5. Dantley could pass too if you made him with the double.

King was just too unstoppable. High motor as well.

bizil
01-20-2024, 07:24 PM
To be fair, Lenny Wilkens peak was behind Oscar, West, Greer and Jones. He was also 2nd in MVP voting in 68 I believe and didn't make All-NBA. His team had the 2nd best record in the league as well. The four guard above him 1st Team Dave Bing and Oscar. 2nd team West and Greer. West and Greer didn't get a vote for MVP.
Has the be the strangest occurrence in NBA History.

Those are good points. BUT with that said Lenny DIDN'T DESERVE to be top 50 over Nique, English, or Bob Mcadoo.

Street Hunger
01-24-2024, 07:51 PM
Did Dominique Wilkins hold the ball and stop all momentum the way Melo did? I really don't remember.

StrongLurk
01-24-2024, 10:09 PM
Same tier of player in my opinion. Neither one of them was truly "great".

They are in the hall of "very good" players.

L.Kizzle
01-24-2024, 10:16 PM
Same tier of player in my opinion. Neither one of them was truly "great".

They are in the hall of "very good" players.
What do you consider great?
Two guys in the top 15 All-Time scoring list just "very good."
Someone like Kenny Anderson was "very good."

Xiao Yao You
01-24-2024, 10:45 PM
What do you consider great?
Two guys in the top 15 All-Time scoring list just "very good."
Someone like Kenny Anderson was "very good."

great scorer and great player isn't the same thing

L.Kizzle
01-24-2024, 10:51 PM
great scorer and great player isn't the same thing
Is Bill Russell a great player or just a great defender?

Baller234
01-24-2024, 10:56 PM
Is Bill Russell a great player or just a great defender?

Russell brought more to the table than just defense.

Xiao Yao You
01-24-2024, 11:08 PM
Is Bill Russell a great player or just a great defender?

winner

BarberSchool
01-25-2024, 06:40 AM
Melo was a much better shooter and ball handler, with a more diverse array of offensive moves.

But Nique was vastly physically superior.
MF VASTLY.
Nique was better at everything else but shooting and ball handling.

But I can’t say either was overall better than the other.
Depends on the squad we’re going against, as to who I would want.