46 y/o Warriors assistant coach and 43 y/o Hertha Berlin (football) president die

[ArbitraryWater]

within 2 days of each other


https://media1.tenor.com/m/vMvR0gEolCEAAAAC/nothing-to-see-here-explosion.gif




Nothing to see here folks. This has happened throughout history. Healthy people die. It is what it is.

[warriorfan]

At least they got protected from an illness with a 99.9% survival rate

[Overdrive]

within 2 days of each other


https://media1.tenor.com/m/vMvR0gEolCEAAAAC/nothing-to-see-here-explosion.gif




Nothing to see here folks. This has happened throughout history. Healthy people die. It is what it is.

Yeah. 40somethings died before Covid and its vaccines. But sure never happened before.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah. 40somethings died before Covid and its vaccines. But sure never happened before.


sports coaches and presidents which there are few of at the highest level dying in their 40s is very common, especially 2 within 2 days, this happened many times in history, I agree.

[Patrick Chewing]

sports coaches and presidents which there are few of at the highest level dying in their 40s is very common, especially 2 within 2 days, this happened many times in history, I agree.

:lol


People that worship the vaccine Gods and ignore how suspicious it is that all these men are dying at such a young age from heart issues are just so ****ing dumb and ignorant.

[Overdrive]

sports coaches and presidents which there are few of at the highest level dying in their 40s is very common, especially 2 within 2 days, this happened many times in history, I agree.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes

See notable cases. It happened forever, but you ignored a similar list when it was last posted.

[Overdrive]

:lol


People that worship the vaccine Gods and ignore how suspicious it is that all these men are dying at such a young age from heart issues are just so ****ing dumb and ignorant.

Sure. The ignorance of statistics, but "dude trust me, vaxxsuxx439 on facebook told me the truth" isn't ignorant.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_cardiac_death_of_athletes

See notable cases. It happened forever, but you ignored a similar list when it was last posted.

(Were not talking about athletes)

Yeah yeah, got the Wiki link ready and everything, i know, its all adding up...


I remember when I was a kid I heard about sports coaches dying almost every week. Sometimes even 3 in 1 week.

For sure.

THIS IS NOT RANDOM.

[SATAN]

Covid increases chances of heart attack and stroke. Get over it fgt. Stop mocking the dead...

[Overdrive]

(Were not talking about athletes)

Yeah yeah, got the Wiki link ready and everything, i know, its all adding up...


I remember when I was a kid I heard about sports coaches dying almost every week. Sometimes even 3 in 1 week.

For sure.

THIS IS NOT RANDOM.

Which known coaches died in their 40s last week? The week before or before that? If it wasn't random it would happen to known coaches every x week.

It just happened that two people who were famous enough to be publicly noticed died in their 40s in the same week. That's a random event. As said random 40 somethings die every day since the dawn of mankind.

Did you check their vaxx status to even know if they got a shot?

[ArbitraryWater]

Covid increases chances of heart attack and stroke. Get over it fgt. Stop mocking the dead...

Mocking the dead? Are you retarded?


Did you come up with this or are you adopting SJW speak where questioning the cause of death is mocking a person?

Thats about as stupid as thinking covid could have caused a heart attack 3 years later

[ArbitraryWater]

Which known coaches died in their 40s last week? The week before or before that? If it wasn't random it would happen to known coaches every x week.

It just happened that two people who were famous enough to be publicly noticed died in their 40s in the same week. That's a random event. As said random 40 somethings die every day since the dawn of mankind.

Did you check their vaxx status to even know if they got a shot?


Yeah I agree, its a complete coincedence. It just so happened.. like it did all those times before. Well not in this case. This never happened. But thats why its a coincedence isnt it.

[SATAN]

Mocking the dead? Are you retarded?




No, but you absolutely are.

"Two people died lemme troll online about it hehehehe"

Grow up.

[Overdrive]

Yeah I agree, its a complete coincedence. It just so happened.. like it did all those times before. Well not in this case. This never happened. But thats why its a coincedence isnt it.

I knew it would be hard to grasp for you.

[ArbitraryWater]

I knew it would be hard to grasp for you.


Are you living under a rock though?


Excess deaths are at an all time high.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRavAZ6jVE

[ArbitraryWater]

No, but you absolutely are.

"Two people died lemme troll online about it hehehehe"

Grow up.


Are you calling the data that has excess deaths at record highs "trolling" ?

You are seriously retarded bro

[warriorfan]

Are you calling the data that has excess deaths at record highs "trolling" ?

You are seriously retarded bro

he only accepts fauci approved data

[SATAN]

Are you calling the data that has excess deaths at record highs "trolling" ?

You are seriously retarded bro

I'm calling you a disingenuous troll.

[SATAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O4n5Cf75ZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAN1lITmpd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdz7khqTv0

[SATAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuSo2qPkUG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD1JeEOj_ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MI9K-CiBVA

:cheers:

[warriorfan]

triple post meltdown

satan feeling some buyer’s remorse on the vax just like his air fryer purchase

:roll:

[ILLsmak]

heh disease x. dey didn't even name it. I hope they don't think that shit is gonna work again.

-Smak

[ArbitraryWater]

he only accepts fauci approved data


Would his head explode if Fauci came out and said there are potential repercussions from the vaccine resulting in thousands of deaths?

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm calling you a disingenuous troll.


Better than being a moron that cant read / accept science I guess

[SATAN]

Better than being a moron that cant read / accept science I guess

That's exactly what you are though...

[warriorfan]

Would his head explode if Fauci came out and said there are potential repercussions from the vaccine resulting in thousands of deaths?

no because he has no brain

[Overdrive]

Sure. The ignorance of statistics, but "dude trust me, vaxxsuxx439 on facebook told me the truth" isn't ignorant.


Are you living under a rock though?


Excess deaths are at an all time high.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRavAZ6jVE

I know it's a doctor, but still fits "dude trust me" argumentation. There's no real way to minotor sudden chardiac arrest in vaccinated people when the disease itself can cause myocarditis and the vaccine doesn't cause sterile immunity anymore.

[BurningHammer]

I know it's a doctor, but still fits "dude trust me" argumentation. There's no real way to minotor sudden chardiac arrest in vaccinated people when the disease itself can cause myocarditis and the vaccine doesn't cause sterile immunity anymore.
John Campbell is a nurse.

[warriorfan]

John Campbell is a nurse.

you are a fat guy scared of the flu

[BurningHammer]

you are a fat guy scared of the flu
You are a crackhead scared of vaccine

[Baller234]

I know it's a doctor, but still fits "dude trust me" argumentation. There's no real way to minotor sudden chardiac arrest in vaccinated people when the disease itself can cause myocarditis and the vaccine doesn't cause sterile immunity anymore.

People were catching Covid all throughout the year of 2020 and it was a much more lethal strain. Obviously people died but I don't recall anyone dying from myocarditis, nor do I recall it being widely reported.

The onslaught of cardiac issues didn't occur until after the vaccine rollout. Then all of a sudden you started hearing, "Hey Covid can cause heart problems too!"

Speaking on my own experiences I know at least 5 people who had some type of chest related, heart related or blood clot issue since getting vaccinated. I can't be alone.

[Overdrive]

John Campbell is a nurse.

I could say that makes it even better, but tbh in rare cases medical doctors are scientists as well. And no fellow antivaxers Fauci isn't one either. He's a bureaucrat who happens to be a doctor. I find it amusing that you guys believe you can use him as some gotcha.


People were catching Covid all throughout the year of 2020 and it was a much more lethal strain. Obviously people died but I don't recall anyone dying from myocarditis, nor do I recall it being widely reported.

The onslaught of cardiac issues didn't occur until after the vaccine rollout. Then all of a sudden you started hearing, "Hey Covid can cause heart problems too!"

Speaking on my own experiences I know at least 5 people who had some type of chest related, heart related or blood clot issue since getting vaccinated. I can't be alone.

A common cold can lead to myocarditis if you don't let it cure. You rarely hear about it, because nobody gave a shit about it prior to covid and its vaccine. That's just selective filtering of datasets.

Also strains before delta and omicron didn't spread as much and if they symptomatically broke out usually led to people staying in their bed. There was data on the alpha variant causing blood clots already.

Not letting viral diseases cure is one of the two main reasons for sudden cardiac arrests in athletes and they occured before covid just as much as they did after. But you do you. Have fun being deranged for the rest of your life by something most of the population doesn't give a shit anymore.

[Baller234]

I could say that makes it even better, but tbh in rare cases medical doctors are scientists as well. And no fellow antivaxers Fauci isn't one either. He's a bureaucrat who happens to be a doctor. I find it amusing that you guys believe you can use him as some gotcha.



A common cold can lead to myocarditis if you don't let it cure. You rarely hear about it, because nobody gave a shit about it prior to covid and its vaccine. That's just selective filtering of datasets.

Also strains before delta and omicron didn't spread as much and if they symptomatically broke out usually led to people staying in their bed. There was data on the alpha variant causing blood clots already.

Not letting viral diseases cure is one of the two main reasons for sudden cardiac arrests in athletes and they occured before covid just as much as they did after. But you do you. Have fun being deranged for the rest of your life by something most of the population doesn't give a shit anymore.

Lmao... yea we're the ones who are deranged. You guys were obsessed with this stuff not even two years ago. Kyrie Irving wasn't even allowed to play basketball because he wasn't vaccinated.

2022:

"You have to be vaccinated! You're killing everyone! No entry into public spaces! Vax cards! Masks! Boosters! Right side of history!"

2024:

"Meh... nobody even cares about this anymore dude okay??"


:oldlol:

[Overdrive]

Lmao... yea we're the ones who are deranged. You guys were obsessed with this stuff not even two years ago. Kyrie Irving wasn't even allowed to play basketball because he wasn't vaccinated.

2022:

"You have to be vaccinated! You're killing everyone! No entry into public spaces! Vax cards! Masks! Boosters! Right side of history!"

2024:

"Meh... nobody even cares about this anymore dude okay??"


:oldlol:

Who is you guys? I don't share any herd mentality like your circle jerk of right winger friends does. My best friend is anti vax and Idgf for all of the pandemic. I made at max 10 posts about if in 3 years. I don't even lose a thought about it, but you keep pushing the topic. That's absolutely deranged.

[Baller234]

Who is you guys? I don't share any herd mentality like your circle jerk of right winger friends does. My best friend is anti vax and Idgf for all of the pandemic. I made at max 10 posts about if in 3 years. I don't even lose a thought about it, but you keep pushing the topic. That's absolutely deranged.

Right so you didn't care throughout the entire pandemic and barely posted, when the discourse was probably 10x more rampant, but now all of a sudden when it comes to the vaccine... you have a vested interest and can't stand other people talking about it.

Let the record show that you said your friend was anti-vax and not you personally, which means you're definitely vaccinated. So it's understandable why you would get all emotional and upset when other people suggest it may not have been safe.

[Overdrive]

Right so you didn't care throughout the entire pandemic and barely posted, when the discourse was probably 10x more rampant, but now all of a sudden when it comes to the vaccine... you have a vested interest and can't stand other people talking about it.

Let the record show that you said your friend was anti-vax and not you personally, which means you're definitely vaccinated. So it's understandable why you would get all emotional and upset when other people suggest it may not have been safe.

I'm not emotional. It's a vaccine not my wife or anything. I don't have vested interested in it and it's not people talking about it, but AW's sensationalist way of using every death to link it to the vaccine when he neither knows if the people were vaccinated nor if the cause is tracable to a prior myocarditis.

I just don't like intellectial dishonesty. When people were dying you right wing muppets - and you guys are, you all parrot the same points - you were very keen about making sure people were dying with not from covid, but now any unexpected death is linked to the vaccine.

[Patrick Chewing]

If cardiac-related deaths are up post Covid and post the vaccine, then that's something that should be discussed and looked into.



Simple as that.

[Overdrive]

If cardiac-related deaths are up post Covid and post the vaccine, then that's something that should be discussed and looked into.



Simple as that.

Yeah, can and should be absolutely looked into. You need groups of people with and without vaccines who also suffered through covid and minotor them. Not some dude on a message board and some youtuber saying 40 somethings dying can't be random.

[Bill Gates]

If cardiac-related deaths are up post Covid and post the vaccine, then that's something that should be discussed and looked into.



Simple as that.

They were up during covid, currently our death rate is below previous averages.

[Bill Gates]

Right before covid we saw actor Luke Perry(52) and rapper Craig Mack(47) die of heart failure.

[Baller234]

I'm not emotional. It's a vaccine not my wife or anything. I don't have vested interested in it and it's not people talking about it, but AW's sensationalist way of using every death to link it to the vaccine when he neither knows if the people were vaccinated nor if the cause is tracable to a prior myocarditis.

I just don't like intellectial dishonesty. When people were dying you right wing muppets - and you guys are, you all parrot the same points - you were very keen about making sure people were dying with not from covid, but now any unexpected death is linked to the vaccine.

:oldlol:

Then if you're "sick and tired" of hearing people talking about the vaccine, why not just disregard the thread and ignore them? Since you apparently don't care and showed so much restraint during the actual pandemic.

The fact is you took the vaccine and you're upset that people are still raising questions. Of course you wouldn't want to admit that you may have made a mistake.

[Baller234]

Right before covid we saw actor Luke Perry(52) and rapper Craig Mack(47) die of heart failure.

Right before covid? Craig Mack died March of 2018. Luke Perry died in March of 2019. Wtf are you talking about?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

Congrats you were able to reference a single heart related death for two different years.

[Bill Gates]

Covid happened in 2020.

2018 and 2019 are closer to covid than 2024 is :oldlol:

And those are just 2, who are much more notable than those listed in the thread title.

[Overdrive]

:oldlol:

Then if you're "sick and tired" of hearing people talking about the vaccine, why not just disregard the thread and ignore them? Since you apparently don't care and showed so much restraint during the actual pandemic.

The fact is you took the vaccine and you're upset that people are still raising questions. Of course you wouldn't want to admit that you may have made a mistake.

Sorry I'm not sick and tired. Your stupid posts can't get me, because you don't know me in any way and think you can shoehorn me into the same group as american libs. Scroll few posts back. I agreed with Chewy. Looking into it is the way. Not just about covid, vaccines or whatever. It's the way to go "no I believe in science" no stupid zealot behaviour that you show here.

You put forth a hypothesis, look into it, find data and process it. Being wrong is not a mistake in science. It actually fuels it. People who think being wrong is something bad are ignorant one track minded politically deranged fools like you, who form their opinions based on political affiliation.

Nothing more to say. Keep fuming, because a stranger took a harmless jab that didn't affect his life negatively in any way. Might even keep fuming the next 20 years, while I just live on.

[Baller234]

Sorry I'm not sick and tired. Your stupid posts can't get me, because you don't know me in any way and think you can shoehorn me into the same group as american libs. Scroll few posts back. I agreed with Chewy. Looking into it is the way. Not just about covid, vaccines or whatever. It's the way to go "no I believe in science" no stupid zealot behaviour that you show here.

You put forth a hypothesis, look into it, find data and process it. Being wrong is not a mistake in science. It actually fuels it. People who think being wrong is something bad are ignorant one track minded politically deranged fools like you, who form their opinions based on political affiliation.

Nothing more to say. Keep fuming, because a stranger took a harmless jab that didn't affect his life negatively in any way. Might even keep fuming the next 20 years, while I just live on.

Nice strawman.

Nobody cares that you took an experimental government vaccine, just like nobody cares if you take heroin. You were always free to do with your body as you wish. If you want to take stupid gambles with your health then by all means. The problem only arose when those that didn't want to take it were coerced into doing so and anyone who didn't comply was either punished or shamed.

90% of the people who willingly got vaccinated didn't do an ounce of research on their own or follow through on any scientific method like you're suggesting. They got vaccinated because the person on the TV told them to and they wanted to be on The Right Side of History(TM).

So spare us your bullshit. Thanks.

[Bill Gates]

The general population did much more research on the covid vaccine than they usually do with any random prescription drug a doctor gives them.

If you want to point your finger at something of that nature, point at all those taking anti-depressants without any research, long terms studies, etc.

The highest % of the population that took the covid vaccine were old people, because they were concerned for their health.

[PistonsFan#21]

The general population did much more research on the covid vaccine than they usually do with any random prescription drug a doctor gives them.

If you want to point your finger at something of that nature, point at all those taking anti-depressants without any research, long terms studies, etc.

The highest % of the population that took the covid vaccine were old people, because they were concerned for their health.

Doctors prescribe pain killers and anti depressants more than ever, yet we never hear about anybody curing their depression from those pills...in fact we hear more stories of overdoses and addiction to adderall or whatever other drugs are commonly used in colleges.

Big pharma is a business and the goal is to make as much money as possible, your health is not their main concern. They want you to come refill your prescription and get your monthly booster shot for whatever new strain pops up and obviously the elderly are usually the most sick and gullible when it comes to that.

[ArbitraryWater]

Right before covid? Craig Mack died March of 2018. Luke Perry died in March of 2019. Wtf are you talking about?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif

Congrats you were able to reference a single heart related death for two different years.

:oldlol:


Covid happened in 2020.

2018 and 2019 are closer to covid than 2024 is :oldlol:

And those are just 2, who are much more notable than those listed in the thread title.


its the vaccine not covid ya big ol retard

[jstern]

John Campbell is a nurse.

Why do you think he has a title of Doctor?

[warriorfan]

Right so you didn't care throughout the entire pandemic and barely posted, when the discourse was probably 10x more rampant, but now all of a sudden when it comes to the vaccine... you have a vested interest and can't stand other people talking about it.

Let the record show that you said your friend was anti-vax and not you personally, which means you're definitely vaccinated. So it's understandable why you would get all emotional and upset when other people suggest it may not have been safe.

lol, he had to rush in here and say his piece and then say STOP TALKING ABOUT IT :lol :roll:

It’s so unhinged behavior. Hilarious.

But yeah, it’s painfully obvious he’s just trying to convince himself, and the reason why he gets so emotional about it is he knows deep down he ****ed up getting the vax. The anger is the last bit of something that resembles any intelligence desperately trying to crack through the immense barrier of his cognitive dissonance.

[Bill Gates]

:oldlol:




its the vaccine not covid ya big ol retard

https://i.imgflip.com/4t4vcj.jpg

[Overdrive]

lol, he had to rush in here and say his piece and then say STOP TALKING ABOUT IT :lol :roll:

It’s so unhinged behavior. Hilarious.

But yeah, it’s painfully obvious he’s just trying to convince himself, and the reason why he gets so emotional about it is he knows deep down he ****ed up getting the vax. The anger is the last bit of something that resembles any intelligence desperately trying to crack through the immense barrier of his cognitive dissonance.

I said I will stop talking about it, idc for your or the other guy's opinion. You can ramble on forever if you please.

[Patrick Chewing]

Champion Pole Vaulter Dead at 29: https://sports.yahoo.com/shawn-barber-dies-age-29-former-world-champion-pole-vaulter-canadian-003526493.html


Champion Bodybuilder Dead at 49: https://people.com/champion-bodybuilder-chad-mccrary-dead-at-49-8431950

[warriorfan]

I said I will stop talking about it, idc for your or the other guy's opinion. You can ramble on forever if you please.

Great.

[Bill Gates]

Champion Pole Vaulter Dead at 29: https://sports.yahoo.com/shawn-barber-dies-age-29-former-world-champion-pole-vaulter-canadian-003526493.html


Champion Bodybuilder Dead at 49: https://people.com/champion-bodybuilder-chad-mccrary-dead-at-49-8431950
The pole vaulter clearly died battling cancer and the bodybuilder has been paralyzed for 20 years after a motorcycle accident.

This is why anti-vaxxers all look like gullible uneducated nitwits.

[Baller234]

The general population did much more research on the covid vaccine than they usually do with any random prescription drug a doctor gives them.

If you want to point your finger at something of that nature, point at all those taking anti-depressants without any research, long terms studies, etc.

The highest % of the population that took the covid vaccine were old people, because they were concerned for their health.

That is beside the point.

The fact is that when it came to the Covid vaccine, the majority of people that willingly wanted to take it only did so because they were told. Either they blindly followed the "recommendation" of The Science(TM)... aka Fauci and the CDC... or they needed to feel better about themselves and show the world that they weren't evil racist anti-vax conservatives.

In a parallel universe where Trump remains president heading into 2021, at least half those same people aren't getting vaccinated. Their leaders and influencers were already telling them they couldn't trust any vaccine that came out under Trump's administration.

[FKAri]

That is beside the point.

The fact is that when it came to the Covid vaccine, the majority of people that willingly wanted to take it only did so because they were told. Either they blindly followed the "recommendation" of The Science(TM)... aka Fauci and the CDC... or they needed to feel better about themselves and show the world that they weren't evil racist anti-vax conservatives.

In a parallel universe where Trump remains president heading into 2021, at least half those same people aren't getting vaccinated. Their leaders and influencers were already telling them they couldn't trust any vaccine that came out under Trump's administration.

I agree, but at the same time it's 2024 and the data now shows that vaccinations turned out to be a good decision for the general populace. So there's nothing to really discuss. Dunno why threads like this are still being made in 2024.

[Baller234]

I agree, but at the same time it's 2024 and the data now shows that vaccinations turned out to be a good decision for the general populace. So there's nothing to really discuss. Dunno why threads like this are still being made in 2024.

The vaccine might have made sense for some but not others. Definitely not the "general populace".

I am assuming that *most* of the users here are males 45 and under with no severe underlying health conditions. A good portion of us probably caught Covid during the initial wave when the strain was far more lethal and recovered just fine without issue.

Furthermore, we know for a fact that the vaccine didn't prevent transmission whatsoever. We also know that the efficacy wore off after just a few months and required several booster shots in order to stay current. Fast forward to current year and someone who's vaccinated has the exact same risk profile as someone who never took it. The only difference is that unvaccinated people don't have to worry about having taken an experimental government vaccine that they were literally bribing people to take with cheeseburgers and free cash gift cards. :oldlol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3VltloWoAAtDWa?format=jpg&name=large

[PistonsFan#21]

I agree, but at the same time it's 2024 and the data now shows that vaccinations turned out to be a good decision for the general populace. So there's nothing to really discuss. Dunno why threads like this are still being made in 2024.

Not sure if it was sarcasm or not but the above point is clearly false. In fact multiple studies have shown that unvaccinated people who got infected and developped natural immunity are 6 to 13 times more protected against future strains and infections compared to the vaccinated group. If what you claimed was true then most people would still be lining up to get their boosters but it's clearly not the case anymore.

[Bill Gates]

Not sure if it was sarcasm or not but the above point is clearly false. In fact multiple studies have shown that unvaccinated people who got infected and developped natural immunity are 6 to 13 times more protected against future strains and infections compared to the vaccinated group. If what you claimed was true then most people would still be lining up to get their boosters but it's clearly not the case anymore.

This is false. Unvaccinated people had a significantly higher death rate in comparison to vacinated.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/1492/production/_122366250_optimised-deaths_by_vax_incidence_rate-nc.png

The reality is that the vaccine saved thousands of lives and mRNA works.

[FKAri]

Not sure if it was sarcasm or not but the above point is clearly false. In fact multiple studies have shown that unvaccinated people who got infected and developped natural immunity are 6 to 13 times more protected against future strains and infections compared to the vaccinated group. If what you claimed was true then most people would still be lining up to get their boosters but it's clearly not the case anymore.

Link the best study you have that shows this. I haven't done a deep dive on this in almost a year.

[Bill Gates]

In a parallel universe where Trump remains president heading into 2021, at least half those same people aren't getting vaccinated. Their leaders and influencers were already telling them they couldn't trust any vaccine that came out under Trump's administration.

And this is laughable :oldlol:

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AP_20343714693566.jpg

Trump was the entire reason the vaccine was pushed out as fast as it was. He got it out as quick as possible and to as many people as possible and touted it as his crowning achievement.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.publichealthpost.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/52022CovidDeaths-1.jpg


The Good Ol' Deep South. Home of the unvaccinated southern dummy.

[Baller234]

And this is laughable :oldlol:

https://share.america.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AP_20343714693566.jpg

Trump was the entire reason the vaccine was pushed out as fast as it was. He got it out as quick as possible and to as many people as possible and touted it as his crowning achievement.

Okay, and? Trump is not our lord and savior. Plenty of people who voted for and support Trump never had any intention of getting vaccinated. His recommendation means jack shit. And Trump only ever recommended getting vaccinated. He never talked about mandating it. Huge, HUGE difference.

The fact remains that team blue was anti-vax all the way up until Election Day 2020.

Then, magically, they did a total 180.

[Baller234]

If you still trust the CDC in regard to anything related to Covid, you're a fukking moron.

This is the same body that helped propagate the 6 feet social distancing lie, the same lie that Fauci just admitted under oath had absolutely nothing to do with science.

Everything they said was a lie and everything they did was an en effort to help the deep state. Your graphs and statistics mean nothing.

[Bill Gates]

When did Dems make a strong push against the vaccine?

Please provide support to your claims. I think you pulled that out of your ass.

Either way, the people clearly ignored.

[Baller234]

When did Dems make a strong push against the vaccine?

Please provide support to your claims. I think you pulled that out of your ass.

Either way, the people clearly ignored.

This is fukking sad that you even need to be reminded of this. It wasn't even 4 years ago.

Were you alive in 2020? Were you paying attention AT ALL?

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyShow/status/1522228967335505921


^ Video compilation of prominent democratic leaders raising skepticism about the "Trump" vaccine.

[ArbitraryWater]

Some more updates:

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[ArbitraryWater]

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[ArbitraryWater]

But this is just mother nature.


Please disperse.

[Bill Gates]

This is fukking sad that you even need to be reminded of this. It wasn't even 4 years ago.

Were you alive in 2020? Were you paying attention AT ALL?

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyShow/status/1522228967335505921


^ Video compilation of prominent democratic leaders raising skepticism about the "Trump" vaccine.

This is a random no name user on Twitter and all of this is taken out of context :oldlol:

Show me something REAL. Is anything of Biden on MSM urging people not to take the vaccine somewhere?

[Bill Gates]

But this is just mother nature.


Please disperse.

It actually is mother nature and life. People die. They always have and they always will.

Do you really think those are the first time a someone under 50 has died?

[SATAN]

I wonder if OP thinks Reggie Lewis was a time traveler.

[Norcaliblunt]

I wonder if OP thinks Reggie Lewis was a time traveler.

Vaccines didn’t exist when Reggie Lewis was alive?

[SATAN]

Vaccines didn’t exist when Reggie Lewis was alive?

Are you high?

[Norcaliblunt]

Are you high?

Actually I am.

[Baller234]

This is a random no name user on Twitter and all of this is taken out of context :oldlol:

Show me something REAL. Is anything of Biden on MSM urging people not to take the vaccine somewhere?

This is pathetic dude. The fact that you don't even remember this happening in real time is extremely telling (and strange). Really makes me wonder if you're just trolling or if you just started paying attention to politics yesterday.

That Twitter user isn't the one who put together that compilation, they are just sharing it. That video has been circulating on social media for the last 2-3 years now. Every single one of those clips was taken in the months leading up to the election. Biden, Harris and Cuomo were all vocal in their sentiment about how we couldn't trust the Trump vaccine.

Here is Governor Cuomo, aka the democratic golden boy of 2020, insisting that there's no way a working vaccine could be made available this quickly, and that the federal health administration can't be trusted so long as Trump is in office:

https://twitter.com/ILovethe80s6/status/1418305045649666048/video/1

Here is the unedited CNN clip of Kamala Harris outright saying that if Donald Trump endorses the vaccine, it can't be trusted... and that she's positive the "real" public health experts won't have a say:

https://twitter.com/CNNSOTU/status/1302596474728067072/video/1

As for the Biden clip, I can't find the actual press conference the clip derived from (probably because it's been scrubbed off the internet)... but I know for a fact it occurred in those same months leading up to the election because I remember everyone talking about it. If you want to put your head in the sand and pretend it's just some random clip that's taken totally out of context then you're a liar and a phony. It 100% was an actual press conference that took place during the pandemic.

But in the interest of debate, here are his words exactly:

"When we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who’s going to take the shot? Who’s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ‘Put me — sign me up, they now say it’s OK’? I’m not being facetious."

Sounds pretty clear to me that he, along with the rest of the democrats, were desperately trying to scare the public into not taking the vaccine. If I'm wrong I would love for you to explain to us what he really meant to say here.

Go ahead, we're all ears.

[JohnnySic]

The journalist who tried to cancel Novak Djokovic over not taking covid vaccine collapsed and died while covering Australian Open.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1748804208180998144/6ECzshSs?format=jpg&name=small

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[diamenz]

bill gates reeks of an 'off the court' alt. their mo's are exactly the same. according to the both of them (or him) everything that's put on the table from the right is a nothing-burger and should be refuted at all costs while simultaneously propagating and defending any & all mainstream narratives no questions asked. it's either the same dude or they're long-lost twins.

[jstern]

bill gates reeks of an 'off the court' alt. their mo's are exactly the same. according to the both of them (or him) everything that's put on the table from the right is a nothing-burger and should be refuted at all costs while simultaneously propagating and defending any & all mainstream narratives no questions asked. it's either the same dude or they're long-lost twins.

Great detective logic. I stopped responding to Bill Gates once I realized he was, if not a troll, then somebody with an Off the Court like IQ (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?515739-US-poised-to-see-record-drop-in-yearly-homicides&p=14870065&viewfull=1#post14870065). And if it's a troll, then it's an alt. But stupid me, I'm so accustomed to Axe having so many alts, that I figured it was Axe and not Off the Court. I assume that's called expectancy bias. You're so used to one thing occurring that you overlook the obvious.

[Axe]

^^Dumbass detective-wannabe can't stop thinking about me yet again. :lol :facepalm

[jstern]

^^Dumbass detective-wannabe can't stop thinking about me yet again. :lol :facepalm

You're back to responding in 2 minutes. You did it the other day too.

[Axe]

:blah

[ArbitraryWater]

The journalist who tried to cancel Novak Djokovic over not taking covid vaccine collapsed and died while covering Australian Open.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1748804208180998144/6ECzshSs?format=jpg&name=small

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[warriorfan]

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lmaoooo

huge vax cuck L

karma

[ArbitraryWater]

lmaoooo

huge vax cuck L

karma



meanwhile Djokovic is collecting slams left and right at pretty much a career high rate lol

[FKAri]

So no one has any new data then?

[Bill Gates]

He collapsed of a heart attack at age 59, hardly a rare occurrence and this is how most in here will go, vaccinated or not.

18 million humans die of heart failure every year.

[warriorfan]

He collapsed of a heart attack at age 59, hardly a rare occurrence and this is how most in here will go, vaccinated or not.

18 million humans die of heart failure every year.

Just like how presidents are only limited to two CONSECUTIVE terms?

:roll:

[Bill Gates]

Just like how presidents are only limited to two CONSECUTIVE terms?

:roll:

I was wrong about that, so I made sure that what you just quoted is correct.

[Norcaliblunt]

So when the mainstream makes an uproar over healthy people dying from co vid it’s okay?

[plowking]

I wouldn't have taken the vaccine if I didn't have to in order to travel. I did - and I feel no better or worse after it. I wouldn't have got it if I didn't have to - much like any vaccine or the flu shot, etc.

People who fixate on this are losers though. Was literally just in Europe for a holiday and saw some protest in England. Had no idea what it was about, and turned out it was some anti vaxxer vs vaxxer march, and I couldn't help but think how much of a loser everyone there was.

A 46 year old died? Yeah no shit - it happens a lot. Happened before the vax, and will happen after it.

[SATAN]

People who fixate on this are losers though. Was literally just in Europe for a holiday and saw some protest in England. Had no idea what it was about, and turned out it was some anti vaxxer vs vaxxer march, and I couldn't help but think how much of a loser everyone there was.



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[BarberSchool]

I wouldn't have taken the vaccine if I didn't have to in order to travel. I did - and I feel no better or worse after it. I wouldn't have got it if I didn't have to - much like any vaccine or the flu shot, etc.

People who fixate on this are losers though. Was literally just in Europe for a holiday and saw some protest in England. Had no idea what it was about, and turned out it was some anti vaxxer vs vaxxer march, and I couldn't help but think how much of a loser everyone there was.

A 46 year old died? Yeah no shit - it happens a lot. Happened before the vax, and will happen after it.
Many of us are physicians/surgeons/medical-researchers or in my case, our significant other is a surgeon.

You might be shocked if you realized just how many medical professionals refused to receive it or forged it, on account of both risks to them, but much more importantly … EPIGENETIC changes that will effect all offspring going forward.

I know that probably sounds too frightening for some readers to take seriously, but sadly, it is looking like certain batches will indeed have horrific epigenetic changes, not to that vaccine recipient themselves, but to their progeny’s ovarian integrity; tissue remodeling factors, immune system genetics…. It’s a horrifying mess, potentially far worse than any airway/lung/pulmonary harm from the risk of a severe natural infection upon vulnerable demographics (elderly, obese, diabetic or the combo of obese diabetic elderly.)

I wish this wasn’t the case, and I would vastly prefer it to be how you want to view it…. As if concerns are nothing more than tinfoil hat crop circle level bullshit. But when social media corporations are actively harming the reach of leading Genomics experts and researchers …. Everyone should be concerned, and not attempt to reduce that concern to some sort of “inconvenient social ill” or to some sort of social acceptance measurement.

[SATAN]

:roll:

[Axe]

I wouldn't have taken the vaccine if I didn't have to in order to travel. I did - and I feel no better or worse after it. I wouldn't have got it if I didn't have to - much like any vaccine or the flu shot, etc.

People who fixate on this are losers though. Was literally just in Europe for a holiday and saw some protest in England. Had no idea what it was about, and turned out it was some anti vaxxer vs vaxxer march, and I couldn't help but think how much of a loser everyone there was.

A 46 year old died? Yeah no shit - it happens a lot. Happened before the vax, and will happen after it.
Those guys cannot move on lol. Shouldn't they just be proud that they are still alive nowadays?

[ArbitraryWater]

Those guys cannot move on lol. Shouldn't they just be proud that they are still alive nowadays?


If the media was still talking about it you wouldnt move on either.


You march to the beat of their drum.

Why should crimes by the people that rule you be forgotten? :facepalm


Its not even a "moving on" thing, since its not in the past. People are dying from it, now.

[SATAN]

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:facepalm

[Axe]

If the media was still talking about it you wouldnt move on either.


You march to the beat of their drum.

Why should crimes by the people that rule you be forgotten? :facepalm


Its not even a "moving on" thing, since its not in the past. People are dying from it, now.
I wouldn't blame if that's what you think. But even if that were the case, how can the ones truly responsible be held accountable for what happened? I doubt these 'powerful people' would be arrested and imprisoned so easily. They'll always get away with it.

[plowking]

Many of us are physicians/surgeons/medical-researchers or in my case, our significant other is a surgeon.

You might be shocked if you realized just how many medical professionals refused to receive it or forged it, on account of both risks to them, but much more importantly … EPIGENETIC changes that will effect all offspring going forward.

I know that probably sounds too frightening for some readers to take seriously, but sadly, it is looking like certain batches will indeed have horrific epigenetic changes, not to that vaccine recipient themselves, but to their progeny’s ovarian integrity; tissue remodeling factors, immune system genetics…. It’s a horrifying mess, potentially far worse than any airway/lung/pulmonary harm from the risk of a severe natural infection upon vulnerable demographics (elderly, obese, diabetic or the combo of obese diabetic elderly.)

I wish this wasn’t the case, and I would vastly prefer it to be how you want to view it…. As if concerns are nothing more than tinfoil hat crop circle level bullshit. But when social media corporations are actively harming the reach of leading Genomics experts and researchers …. Everyone should be concerned, and not attempt to reduce that concern to some sort of “inconvenient social ill” or to some sort of social acceptance measurement.

I see people having babies, no more complications than before, no more sudden deaths by all statistics.

I'm not an expert on anything medical related, but doesn't getting the flu itself interfere with the epigenetic side of things?

Everything I've seen from both sides shows me no one has any real proof of anything as of yet, and we're all just tooting our own horn on what we think. My take? Don't care. I'm fine, my fams fine and the rest of the world seems fine? 40 and 50 year olds having heart attacks? Wow - thats never happened before....

[ShawkFactory]

Many of us are physicians/surgeons/medical-researchers or in my case, our significant other is a surgeon.

You might be shocked if you realized just how many medical professionals refused to receive it or forged it, on account of both risks to them, but much more importantly … EPIGENETIC changes that will effect all offspring going forward.

I know that probably sounds too frightening for some readers to take seriously, but sadly, it is looking like certain batches will indeed have horrific epigenetic changes, not to that vaccine recipient themselves, but to their progeny’s ovarian integrity; tissue remodeling factors, immune system genetics…. It’s a horrifying mess, potentially far worse than any airway/lung/pulmonary harm from the risk of a severe natural infection upon vulnerable demographics (elderly, obese, diabetic or the combo of obese diabetic elderly.)

I wish this wasn’t the case, and I would vastly prefer it to be how you want to view it…. As if concerns are nothing more than tinfoil hat crop circle level bullshit. But when social media corporations are actively harming the reach of leading Genomics experts and researchers …. Everyone should be concerned, and not attempt to reduce that concern to some sort of “inconvenient social ill” or to some sort of social acceptance measurement.

Out of curiosity, how is it looking like this? Very few of the subjects in question are even 2 years old so I'm interested to understand how their ovarian integrity in particular is able to be analyzed.

[Baller234]

I see people having babies, no more complications than before, no more sudden deaths by all statistics.

I'm not an expert on anything medical related, but doesn't getting the flu itself interfere with the epigenetic side of things?

Everything I've seen from both sides shows me no one has any real proof of anything as of yet, and we're all just tooting our own horn on what we think. My take? Don't care. I'm fine, my fams fine and the rest of the world seems fine? 40 and 50 year olds having heart attacks? Wow - thats never happened before....

That's interesting, I could have sworn the vaccines were Safe & Effective(TM) beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[BarberSchool]

Out of curiosity, how is it looking like this? Very few of the subjects in question are even 2 years old so I'm interested to understand how their ovarian integrity in particular is able to be analyzed.

Numerous studies of the shots in question, in other mammals with shorter lifespans (rodents and such) are showing significantly elevated levels of premature ovarian failure in offspring of recipients.

The mechanism is based off similarities to what was causing abnormalities during the follicular phase on menstruation in human female recipients.