Joe Biden hasn't even been that bad of a President lol

[SATAN]

Who agrees? If not, what has he done wrong? It can't get any worse than Trump surely? :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

Op getting lonely.

I hope his air fryer is okay.

[bladefd]

inb4 massive meltdown in this thread

:cheers:

[SATAN]

inb4 massive meltdown in this thread

:cheers:

The flock are avoiding this thread like the plague...

[1987_Lakers]

It's pretty obvious he isn't running shit, pretty much doing what he is told.

[diamenz]

well he does have two new wars under his belt. one of which has killed nearly 30k innocent people in a three month timespan and ultimately has the potential to expand into a worldwide conflict between three great nuclear powers as long as he keeps himself cucked out to the israel lobby. the other of which has in effect left 500k ukrainians dead, turned the country into a rump state and turned russia's army into the most formidable in the world. not to mention left us even more broke than we were before all of this started.

in addition to that a border crisis which he refuses to address that's brought literally millions of illegal immigrants under the guise of 'asylum seekers' from all over the world into our country of whom we have no idea who they are, haven't vetted them and can only assume that the majority of them have no intent on assimilating into our culture. not to mention us not having the logistics to house, feed or get these people jobs.

so yeah, one hell of a mess he's brought us into.

[diamenz]

It's pretty obvious he isn't running shit, pretty much doing what he is told.

yeah no doubt. the guy's nothing but a feckless cut-out for the globalists and big $ interests.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[diamenz]

:facepalm

yeah, figured as much.

[SouBeachTalents]

well he does have two new wars under his belt. one of which has killed nearly 30k innocent people in a three month timespan and ultimately has the potential to expand into a worldwide conflict between three great nuclear powers as long as he keeps himself cucked out to the israel lobby. the other of which has in effect left 500k ukrainians dead, turned the country into a rump state and turned russia's army into the most formidable in the world. not to mention left us even more broke than we were before all of this started.

in addition to that a border crisis which he refuses to address that's brought literally millions of illegal immigrants under the guise of 'asylum seekers' from all over the world into our country of whom we have no idea who they are, haven't vetted them and can only assume that the majority of them have no intent on assimilating into our culture. not to mention us not having the logistics to house, feed or get these people jobs.

so yeah, one hell of a mess he's brought us into.
Genuinely curious, how much blame can you give to a president for conflicts that take place overseas? You could argue they didn't occur under Trump sure, but they didn't occur under Obama either and he had a rep for being weak on foreign policy. How much can conflicts between two nations thousands of miles away be pinned on the president?

[jstern]

Can you imagine thinking that Joe Biden hasn't been that bad of a President?

[diamenz]

Genuinely curious, how much blame can you give to a president for conflicts that take place overseas? You could argue they didn't occur under Trump sure, but they didn't occur under Obama either and he had a rep for being weak on foreign policy. How much can conflicts between two nations thousands of miles away be pinned on the president?

ukraine is our (the collective west in general but where the war stands now, the us in particular) mess and arguably always has been dating all of the way back to the clinton years when eastward nato expansion originally began. ukraine where it stands now is basically on life support and we're the breathing machine. the most we do every time we send them another stack of billions is essentially giving the patient (ukraine) a shave and a haircut. the patient is effectively dead. this is joe biden's war now. it's our mess, period.

don't get me started on the israel lobby. netanyahu and his extremist zionist right-wing government has more power and control over washington than joe biden or anybody on the hill. if he didn't have our unconditional backing, netanyahu wouldn't be pursuing such an aggressive campaign to create a greater israel and rid the state of israel of the problem of gaza once and for all - by destroying it and pushing it's inhabitants out. but i digress... without us, he faces the wrath of the entire enraged arab region most significant of which is iran & turkey. a war with the arab world is a war israel would not win without our military backing. escalation with iran is increasing at a fast rate and if we go to war with iran, russia won't stand idly by and watch it be destroyed nor will china. there's your wwiii.

we hold the bag for both of these conflicts and we never seem to learn. joe biden has the power to end these with a simple phone call in both instances. "we're out" is all that he has to signify. yeah, it's more or less as simple as that. these are joe's wars.

[1987_Lakers]

Genuinely curious, how much blame can you give to a president for conflicts that take place overseas? You could argue they didn't occur under Trump sure, but they didn't occur under Obama either and he had a rep for being weak on foreign policy. How much can conflicts between two nations thousands of miles away be pinned on the president?

Russia & Ukraine got into war partly because of what we did in the past, stuff that happened before Biden was even president.

[ArbitraryWater]

You know you get shameful/retarded when you end that sentence with "lol"

[ArbitraryWater]

Genuinely curious, how much blame can you give to a president for conflicts that take place overseas? You could argue they didn't occur under Trump sure, but they didn't occur under Obama either and he had a rep for being weak on foreign policy. How much can conflicts between two nations thousands of miles away be pinned on the president?


US did just bomb Yemen :lol


Do you not see theyre constructing the chaos overseas?

Seizing regions, bombing them, causing disruption in the government..

[SATAN]

Can you imagine thinking that Joe Biden hasn't been that bad of a President?

yeah, figured as much.

[SATAN]

US did just bomb Yemen :lol


Do you not see theyre constructing the chaos overseas?

Seizing regions, bombing them, causing disruption in the government..

You are retarded.

[Baller234]

Can you imagine thinking that Joe Biden hasn't been that bad of a President?

On some level they all know Brandon has been a disaster. Even The Rock said as much on Joe Rogan and there wasn't an ounce of backlash, which is extremely telling.

The problem is they are so ALL-IN on pretending that Trump is Voldemort they have no choice but to keep up the facade, especially those who've been so outspoken about it.

He is supposedly the most voted for president in history... but I could already envision a not too distant future where the shame is so blatant that not a single lib will admit having voted for him. :oldlol:

80 million votes but none of them exist. :oldlol:

[John8204]

Yeah the case against Biden as a bad president has always been based on historical ignorance. He is obviously better than the following...

George W Bush
George HW Bush
Herbert Hoover
Warren Harding
Woodrow Wilson
William Mckinley
Rutherford Hayes
Benjamin Harrison
Andrew Johnson
James Buchanan
Franklin Pierce
Millard Fillmore
John Tyler
Andrew Jackson

He's also ahead of the mixed lot
Donald Trump
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Chester Arthur
James Garfield
Zachary Taylor
William Henry Harrison

and he's not as good as

Barack Obama
Bill Clinton
Lyndon Johnson
John F Kennedy
Dwight Eisenhower
Harry Truman
FDR
Teddy Roosevelt
Grover Cleveland
Ulysses S Grant
Abraham Lincoln
James Polk
James Madison
John Madison
Thomas Jefferson
George Washington

So Biden is in a class with Reagan, Nixon, Coolidge, Taft, Van Buren, Quincy Adams, Adams

[Manny98]

For starters he isn't really the president

He's essentially a puppet

[Overdrive]

ukraine is our (the collective west in general but where the war stands now, the us in particular) mess and arguably always has been dating all of the way back to the clinton years when eastward nato expansion originally began. ukraine where it stands now is basically on life support and we're the breathing machine. the most we do every time we send them another stack of billions is essentially giving the patient (ukraine) a shave and a haircut. the patient is effectively dead. this is joe biden's war now. it's our mess, period.

don't get me started on the israel lobby. netanyahu and his extremist zionist right-wing government has more power and control over washington than joe biden or anybody on the hill. if he didn't have our unconditional backing, netanyahu wouldn't be pursuing such an aggressive campaign to create a greater israel and rid the state of israel of the problem of gaza once and for all - by destroying it and pushing it's inhabitants out. but i digress... without us, he faces the wrath of the entire enraged arab region most significant of which is iran & turkey. a war with the arab world is a war israel would not win without our military backing. escalation with iran is increasing at a fast rate and if we go to war with iran, russia won't stand idly by and watch it be destroyed nor will china. there's your wwiii.

we hold the bag for both of these conflicts and we never seem to learn. joe biden has the power to end these with a simple phone call in both instances. "we're out" is all that he has to signify. yeah, it's more or less as simple as that. these are joe's wars.

Tough case, but without the NATO going east Russia would've attacked Ukraine way earlier and the baltic states aswell. NATO isn't the reason for war. The end of the USSR is. Russia essentially has a hand in any state that went independent from 89 onwards. Some are pro moscow some aren't, but they ate still trying to install a russocentric sphere opposed to the west.

You can only fault the US so much for something that might've happened anyway. Also if you want to point a finger at a date you have to go way back. Clinton is way too late.

Countries like Poland, the baltic states, ex-cssr were so close to Marshall plan countries. They saw how they thrived compared to them, that they simply didn't want to go back under russian influence.

I'm happy I wasn't born 100km southeast. Even past iron curtain hungary was a shithole and Orban, Putin's puppet, is transforming it back to that.

[Jasper]

well he does have two new wars under his belt. one of which has killed nearly 30k innocent people in a three month timespan and ultimately has the potential to expand into a worldwide conflict between three great nuclear powers as long as he keeps himself cucked out to the israel lobby. the other of which has in effect left 500k ukrainians dead, turned the country into a rump state and turned russia's army into the most formidable in the world. not to mention left us even more broke than we were before all of this started.

in addition to that a border crisis which he refuses to address that's brought literally millions of illegal immigrants under the guise of 'asylum seekers' from all over the world into our country of whom we have no idea who they are, haven't vetted them and can only assume that the majority of them have no intent on assimilating into our culture. not to mention us not having the logistics to house, feed or get these people jobs.

so yeah, one hell of a mess he's brought us into.

Biden did not start the wars like Bush did

[Norcaliblunt]

This thread is a good example as to why Biden has been a bad president. All the talk is about overseas bullshit. For the last 60 years everything has been about overseas bullshit. Biden is another globalist shill like all the rest.

[diamenz]

Biden did not start the wars like Bush did

if your understanding of the two conflicts are truly that simplistic, then by all means, a vote for joe biden is indeed in your best interests.

[Bill Gates]

The US has navigated out of covid extraordinarily well in comparison to the rest of the globe. Avoided a recession that everyone was sure would be here, and has diminished the inflation rate that most of the globe is still battling. In the process the US has gained a lot of ground on China and the US dollar as strengthened considerably. On top of that the crime and murder rates have diminished back down to pre-covid levels, in some major cities such as Detroit they are witnessing historically low murder rates.

All things considered we are in good shape.

[diamenz]

Joe Biden is currently the most unpopular US president in modern history — what ails his presidency? (https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/joe-biden-is-currently-the-most-unpopular-us-president-in-modern-history--what-ails-his-presidency-18536391.htm)

[Bill Gates]

Joe Biden is currently the most unpopular US president in modern history — what ails his presidency? (https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/joe-biden-is-currently-the-most-unpopular-us-president-in-modern-history--what-ails-his-presidency-18536391.htm)

This is actually just wrong, we can see there are several recent POTUS that had a lower approval rating

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Bush Jr's approval rating was all the way down to 23% at one point. Biden is a rock star in comparison.

Also, while Biden has a low approval rating, it is basically right in line with Trump's. Trump was never above 50%, and both he and Biden have stayed around that 40% range.

[JohnnySic]

LOL.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/7c/29/237c296792117070a68d68191f09ccd9.gif

[diamenz]

This is actually just wrong

https://c.tenor.com/zSwssFAcaXYAAAAC/tenor.gif

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEogTv5W8AAhNhH?format=jpg&name=small

[Bill Gates]

The U.S. economy grew at blistering 3.3% pace in Q4 while inflation pulled back (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/25/gdp-q4-2023-the-us-economy-grew-at-a-3point3percent-pace-in-the-fourth-quarter.html)

Things are not looking good for those trying to sell a bad economy.

[SATAN]

The U.S. economy grew at blistering 3.3% pace in Q4 while inflation pulled back (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/25/gdp-q4-2023-the-us-economy-grew-at-a-3point3percent-pace-in-the-fourth-quarter.html)

Things are not looking good for those trying to sell a bad economy.

They will vote against their own interests no matter what. They hate America.

[Jasper]

It's pretty obvious he isn't running shit, pretty much doing what he is told.

by who Obama ??

This is what the 65% voter base states... (65% high school grads)

[Off the Court]

"Joe Biden is a puppet"

So what, who ever is controlling that puppet is doing a hell of a lot better than the rest of the world leaders are. We need to keep this puppet master in office.

[diamenz]

"Joe Biden is a puppet"

So what, who ever is controlling that puppet is doing a hell of a lot better than the rest of the world leaders are. We need to keep this puppet master in office.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9ZXNIWW0AAygb-.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/7op25m.jpg

[warriorfan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9ZXNIWW0AAygb-.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/7op25m.jpg

He doesn’t say mean things on twitter though.


Check yourself.

[Off the Court]

Not a cent of tax money went into Ukraine, but it doesn't even matter. Biden stole all of Russias exports. We supply the EU with oil and everything else now.

He basically erased Russia as a super power.

It's just the US and China now and the US has gained considerably on China too who is struggling big time economically. They did not weather covid well.

[BurningHammer]

Not a cent of tax money went into Ukraine, but it doesn't even matter. Biden stole all of Russias exports. We supply the EU with oil and everything else now.

He basically erased Russia as a super power.

It's just the US and China now and the US has gained considerably on China too who is struggling big time economically. They did not weather covid well.

You know, BRICS has become a thing now. It's still not as powerful as G7 but it is growing fast.

[imdaman99]

The US funds Israel's healthcare. Explain this to me, they can't even figure shit out for us but let's make sure Israel lives good.

[ArbitraryWater]

Biden threatening states for defending their border :lol


These people dont care about you. They want it to be chaos.


The deepest of swamps.


The same person who preached about protecting the border as senator.


And the clowns here suck his dick. Mad world.

[diamenz]

Not a cent of tax money went into Ukraine, but it doesn't even matter. Biden stole all of Russias exports. We supply the EU with oil and everything else now.

He basically erased Russia as a super power.

It's just the US and China now and the US has gained considerably on China too who is struggling big time economically. They did not weather covid well.

erased russia as a superpower? you've got to be clowning. you realize the ridiculous extent of what you're saying here, right?

if you believe what american media is telling who (btw whom of which are nothing more than stenographers of the us government) not only in regard to the state of russia's economy and current military might; but as well as the reasons/causes for this war in the first place and where it currently stands then i have a bridge to sell you.

learn to listen to alternative media and put the pieces of the puzzle together for yourself.

here's some food for thought to get you started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkP2yD2li1c

btw china is doing just fine and they remain our peer competitor. what we should be doing is bringing russia to our side of the ledger. we're instead pushing those two great powers closer together and putting ourselves in a position that benefits us least, parading putin as a boogieman and a threat to the region. it's ridiculous.

[highwhey]

Not a cent of tax money went into Ukraine, but it doesn't even matter. Biden stole all of Russias exports. We supply the EU with oil and everything else now.

He basically erased Russia as a super power.

It's just the US and China now and the US has gained considerably on China too who is struggling big time economically. They did not weather covid well.

are you on the same bs as that liberal pandering? "we're giving away used equipment" LOL, they literally tried using that as a line, but we are actually handing money out to ukraine, cold hard cash.

[Off the Court]

are you on the same bs as that liberal pandering? "we're giving away used equipment" LOL, they literally tried using that as a line, but we are actually handing money out to ukraine, cold hard cash.

Yes but not a cent of it is YOUR tax dollars like diamenz meme implies.

No more than the covid relief was YOUR tax money.


In short, we approve a bill and then we just print it up! it gets added to a national debt that has no intention of ever being paid off.

And the good part about funding Ukraine, is that when we print up money and it goes outside of the country it really doesn't cause inflation in the way that it does when we print up billions and give it to ourselves. And that is what goes over the head of so many who say "why are we giving it to Ukraine and not building better roads here in the US!". It's because if we flood our own country with money we print up it causes inflation, and that was seen during covid. But if we print it up and send it elsewhere? It has a much different effect on the money supply.

[Off the Court]

erased russia as a superpower? you've got to be clowning. you realize the ridiculous extent of what you're saying here, right?

if you believe what american media is telling who (btw whom of which are nothing more than stenographers of the us government) not only in regard to the state of russia's economy and current military might; but as well as the reasons/causes for this war in the first place and where it currently stands then i have a bridge to sell you.

learn to listen to alternative media and put the pieces of the puzzle together for yourself.

here's some food for thought to get you started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkP2yD2li1c

btw china is doing just fine and they remain our peer competitor. what we should be doing is bringing russia to our side of the ledger. we're instead pushing those two great powers closer together and putting ourselves in a position that benefits us least, parading putin as a boogieman and a threat to the region. it's ridiculous.

Mainstream media is not saying what I am saying. Which is obvious.

This war has 0% to do with saving Ukraine and 100% to do with taking away Russia's exports and weakening them as a nation. We are in this to take from Russia. And we have already successfully done so.

[Off the Court]

The US dollar has never been stronger.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27939.jpeg


You guys just do not understand, whoever is pulling the strings of puppet Biden has done a masterful job. The US is emerging out of covid more powerful than ever.

[diamenz]

Mainstream media is not saying what I am saying. Which is obvious.

This war has 0% to do with saving Ukraine and 100% to do with taking away Russia's exports and weakening them as a nation. We are in this to take from Russia. And we have already successfully done so.

Lol. this is not at all the case.

russia's economy has not suffered any moreso than any nation's economy would during wartime. our (and europe's) sanctions have not inflicted anywhere near the damage that western media, you or our government are propagating. furthermore, to make the statement that russia can no longer be considered a great power is absolute insanity. wtf are you smoking son? are you seriously gonna run with that?

so as you said, the collective west was keen on imposing sanctions on russia - right, of course. but the rest of the world wasn't - namely china & india, especially china. trade with china has increased drastically and more than cancels out the decline from us, germany, or france. china's trade has also shot up with countries such as kazakhstan and turkey, all with easy access to russia. russia's economy hasn't been damaged, it's only been reconfigured to look eastwards and southwards as opposed to westwards. some people would even make the argument that these sanctions have not only failed, but boomeranged.

i find it hilarious how the west was so full of themselves as far as their exaggerated sense of influence around the world that they thought they could inflict any kind of meaningful damage to weaken russia as a great power. even if you wanted to try and make that argument, it would take yeeears for this to take effect. like him or not, putin has weathered the storm and effectively won this war both on the military as well as the economic front.

fuc* outta here with that nonsense. you really need to turn off cable news.

[BarberSchool]

I don’t care what side of the spectrum any poster or reader is, you can’t front on Diamenz having the most detailed, sensible, and most insightful posts here, on this specific topic.

I urge anyone who reads his posts like they are from an opposing team or enemy, to re-read them thru a different lens.

Because….

…. He’s right, you know.

If anyone wants to look into why Ukraine war can be squarely placed on the Biden administration, look no further than his deals/promises between him and former FBI 10 most wanted Ukrainian Jewish mobster, and top Zelenskyy donor, Ihor Kolomoisky.

Biden & his beltway insiders, back before the terrible facelifts, as VP, did Ihor all kinds of favors in the banking and fossil fuel spaces, and then late during Barack’s second term, strongarmed ihor’s political rivals via threatening to withhold aid during the 2014 conflict with Russia.

No one who actually pays attention was surprised that a vote for Biden was a vote for war in Ukraine against Russia.

One of the first things Biden did after being sworn in, was start scheming on advancing NATO missiles eastward in Romania, Ukraine, and adding even more destructive and modern missile capability in Radzikovo, Poland. After moving those missiles eastward closer to Russian border, they then began scheming on how to destroy the Nordstream 2 pipeline between Germany and Russia.

Biden, just like the time he withheld aid to get an anti-Kolomoisky prosecutor destroyed …. And publicly bragged about it in an open forum shortly before Trump won the 2016 election, also publicly bragged about the USA being determined to destroy that pipeline. Which again was supposed to be a favor to Kolomoisky and his friends at the federal reserve and Wall Street.

But that favor wound up not helping Kolomoisky at all, since Russia then simply took control of the eastern provinces where Kolomoisky’s natural gas fields were located.

Letting shortsighted greedy trolls run foreign policy since Kennedy got whacked has been one of the most disastrous and expensive mistakes the USA ever made.

[Off the Court]

I'm saying that we are in the war for money and power, the US stole Russias exports to the EU. (The US did)

And diamenz concludes that I need to turn off the cable.

Mainstream media would never say what I'm saying, that's just a typical diamenz catch phrase arguement. To accuse the other of watching CNN.

It's not accurate or sensible. He's just not reading what I'm saying.

[highwhey]

I don’t care what side of the spectrum any poster or reader is, you can’t front on Diamenz having the most detailed, sensible, and most insightful posts here, on this specific topic.

I urge anyone who reads his posts like they are from an opposing team or enemy, to re-read them thru a different lens.

Because….

…. He’s right, you know.

If anyone wants to look into why Ukraine war can be squarely placed on the Biden administration, look no further than his deals/promises between him and former FBI 10 most wanted Ukrainian Jewish mobster, and top Zelenskyy donor, Ihor Kolomoisky.

Biden & his beltway insiders, back before the terrible facelifts, as VP, did Ihor all kinds of favors in the banking and fossil fuel spaces, and then late during Barack’s second term, strongarmed ihor’s political rivals via threatening to withhold aid during the 2014 conflict with Russia.

No one who actually pays attention was surprised that a vote for Biden was a vote for war in Ukraine against Russia.

One of the first things Biden did after being sworn in, was start scheming on advancing NATO missiles eastward in Romania, Ukraine, and adding even more destructive and modern missile capability in Radzikovo, Poland. After moving those missiles eastward closer to Russian border, they then began scheming on how to destroy the Nordstream 2 pipeline between Germany and Russia.

Biden, just like the time he withheld aid to get an anti-Kolomoisky prosecutor destroyed …. And publicly bragged about it in an open forum shortly before Trump won the 2016 election, also publicly bragged about the USA being determined to destroy that pipeline. Which again was supposed to be a favor to Kolomoisky and his friends at the federal reserve and Wall Street.

But that favor wound up not helping Kolomoisky at all, since Russia then simply took control of the eastern provinces where Kolomoisky’s natural gas fields were located.

Letting shortsighted greedy trolls run foreign policy since Kennedy got whacked has been one of the most disastrous and expensive mistakes the USA ever made.

you got some issues man, i sense a whole lot of frustration in each post of yours. you may think it doesn't seep through but holy sheeeeit dude, go see a therapist.

[SATAN]

being a retard

Who is going to win these games? Might put a bet on.

[SATAN]

Lol. this is not at all the case.

russia's economy has not suffered any moreso than any nation's economy would during wartime. our (and europe's) sanctions have not inflicted anywhere near the damage that western media, you or our government are propagating. furthermore, to make the statement that russia can no longer be considered a great power is absolute insanity. wtf are you smoking son? are you seriously gonna run with that?

so as you said, the collective west was keen on imposing sanctions on russia - right, of course. but the rest of the world wasn't - namely china & india, especially china. trade with china has increased drastically and more than cancels out the decline from us, germany, or france. china's trade has also shot up with countries such as kazakhstan and turkey, all with easy access to russia. russia's economy hasn't been damaged, it's only been reconfigured to look eastwards and southwards as opposed to westwards. some people would even make the argument that these sanctions have not only failed, but boomeranged.

i find it hilarious how the west was so full of themselves as far as their exaggerated sense of influence around the world that they thought they could inflict any kind of meaningful damage to weaken russia as a great power. even if you wanted to try and make that argument, it would take yeeears for this to take effect. like him or not, putin has weathered the storm and effectively won this war both on the military as well as the economic front.

fuc* outta here with that nonsense. you really need to turn off cable news.

You are genuinely retarded.

[diamenz]

I'm saying that we are in the war for money and power, the US stole Russias exports to the EU. (The US did)

And diamenz concludes that I need to turn off the cable.

Mainstream media would never say what I'm saying, that's just a typical diamenz catch phrase arguement. To accuse the other of watching CNN.

It's not accurate or sensible. He's just not reading what I'm saying.

these are the points that you originally made. your words, not mine:


He basically erased Russia as a super power.

now i assume we're speaking strictly in economic terms here but if you believe the same to be true from a military standpoint, then feel free to correct me.

you also said this:


This war has 0% to do with saving Ukraine and 100% to do with taking away Russia's exports and weakening them as a nation. We are in this to take from Russia. And we have already successfully done so.

i refuted both of these points directly.

so yes, you are right in that the globalists set out to weaken and make a fool out of russia. instead, in turn all they did was make a fool out of themselves, as i outlined above. they failed. putin won and russia stands strong. what an embarrassment for us and a tragedy for ukraine and it's people.

[diamenz]

I don’t care what side of the spectrum any poster or reader is, you can’t front on Diamenz having the most detailed, sensible, and most insightful posts here, on this specific topic.



i appreciate you saying that and the only reason i come across as knowledgeable in any respect is because i have a genuine interest in geopolitics and do a lot of deep-diving. unlike most others who simply gather their talking points from wherever they stand on the spectrum that you speak of and retreat to their corners.

[SATAN]

i appreciate you saying that and the only reason i come across as knowledgeable in any respect is because i have a genuine interest in geopolitics and do a lot of deep-diving. unlike most others who simply gather their talking points from wherever they stand on the spectrum that you speak of and retreat to their corners.

:oldlol:

[diamenz]

Letting shortsighted greedy trolls run foreign policy since Kennedy got whacked has been one of the most disastrous and expensive mistakes the USA ever made.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/OqZ3-4d7jyUAAAAC/rock-clapping.gif

[BarberSchool]

you got some issues man, i sense a whole lot of frustration in each post of yours. you may think it doesn't seep through but holy sheeeeit dude, go see a therapist.
NICCA FU@K YOU
AND MF YOUR FAKE CONCERN.

Refute the points if you feel you are in some superlative position on any of the assertions you may disagree with.

Instead of merely questioning the mental health of some rando you don’t even know, who posts things you disagree with.

You likely don’t realize it, but doing what you just did, revealed that you either have an extremely childish, low-IQ, “frightened by reality of actual international corruption” worldview, in which case you may actually think those things are simply too corrupt and too awful to be true. And if that’s the case, condolences, but your feelings don’t change reality on the ground.

More likely though, that you simply don’t like someone posting disgusting truths about the current administration; and what led up to their collectively horrific mismanagement of the empire they are currently failing miserably at serving.

In closing … FU@K YOU.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[Overdrive]

i appreciate you saying that and the only reason i come across as knowledgeable in any respect is because i have a genuine interest in geopolitics and do a lot of deep-diving. unlike most others who simply gather their talking points from wherever they stand on the spectrum that you speak of and retreat to their corners.

That's why you didn't even tackle my post itt. You act like it's the US collecting eastern european countires via NATO and Russia simply reacts. Poland and the baltic states actively seeked out NATO membership to be safe from Russia.

You simply don't know what the USSR meant for the warsaw pact states. You haven't seen that with your own eyes and wouldn't get why they were welcoming the US and the NATO.

Also you're wildly misinterpreting why Russia doesn't suffer economically yet.
The can't supply large parts of their country with sufficient heating. That's no western propaganda. My SiL's family lives there. Putin is publically blaming regional governments for that, while in reality Russia switched to war economy to keep the miltary running while ordinary people suffer.

You should stop doing your deep diving on youtube, facebook and telegram. That's just as bad as MSM.

[diamenz]

That's why you didn't even tackle my post itt. You act like it's the US collecting eastern european countires via NATO and Russia simply reacts. Poland and the baltic states actively seeked out NATO membership to be safe from Russia.

You simply don't know what the USSR meant for the warsaw pact states. You haven't seen that with your own eyes and wouldn't get why they were welcoming the US and the NATO.

Also you're wildly misinterpreting why Russia doesn't suffer economically yet.
The can't supply large parts of their country with sufficient heating. That's no western propaganda. My SiL's family lives there. Putin is publically blaming regional governments for that, while in reality Russia switched to war economy to keep the miltary running while ordinary people suffer.

You should stop doing your deep diving on youtube, facebook and telegram. That's just as bad as MSM.

i didn't refute your post because i respected what you had to say. you seemed genuine and i'm not going to aggressively argue with someone who has an honest opinion based on historical knowledge. btw of which came from someone who apparently has personal ties with the region. i:m not that hard-headed, you know.

but again, i, personally, don't see any evidence that putin has aspirations beyond ukraine. in addition to that, i don't believe that he has interest in any territory beyond the dnieper river (aside from regime change in kiev), the entirety of ukraine, nor poland & the baltics states and certainly not recreating the soviet union/empire. this is all nonsense from western globalists painting putin an aggressor that has hegemonic ambitions in europe. he can't do that and he knows this. he knows a war with nato is a war that he cannot win. nor does he have the military might or economic foundation to pull off such a thing. why would he have intetest in governing territory that isn't pro-russian?

this is nothing more than great-power politics. putin wants a neutral ukraine with a moscow-friendly government in kiev. he-s also lopping off some territory that is indeed russia-friendly. there's no evidence to suggest anything more than that. it would be a blunder of epic proportions for him to seek anything further. he knows this.

i never said the sanctions imposed upon russia had zero effect. i argued against off the court's claim that we've gone and erased russia as a superpower and our sanctions were successful in what we intended them to do.

edit:

and even more evidence that we've gone too far is bringing in a countrylike finland that has been considered neutral for hundreds of years and has been a place where other delegations could meet and conduct business and discuss peace agreements; again due to western russian fear-mongering has gone and become a potential threat to russia... by their own doing!

[SATAN]

Move to Russia already ffs!

[diamenz]

Move to Russia already ffs!

if you paid any attention on even just a baseline level to what i allude to in my posts with regard to this subject, you'd realize that i'm criticizing our interventionist foreign policy and how it in turn undermines our country's interests and creates havoc everywhere we go.

[SATAN]

https://solutions21.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/blog_Forest_Palko_fb-1080x628.jpg

[Overdrive]

i didn't refute your post because i respected what you had to say. you seemed genuine and i'm not going to aggressively argue with someone who has an honest opinion based on historical knowledge. btw of which came from someone who apparently has personal ties with the region. i:m not that hard-headed, you know.

but again, i, personally, don't see any evidence that putin has aspirations beyond ukraine. in addition to that, i don't believe that he has interest in any territory beyond the dnieper river (aside from regime change in kiev), the entirety of ukraine, nor poland & the baltics states and certainly not recreating the soviet union/empire. this is all nonsense from western globalists painting putin an aggressor that has hegemonic ambitions in europe. he can't do that and he knows this. he knows a war with nato is a war that he cannot win. nor does he have the military might or economic foundation to pull off such a thing. why would he have intetest in governing territory that isn't pro-russian?

this is nothing more than great-power politics. putin wants a neutral ukraine with a moscow-friendly government in kiev. he-s also lopping off some territory that is indeed russia-friendly. there's no evidence to suggest anything more than that. it would be a blunder of epic proportions for him to seek anything further. he knows this.

i never said the sanctions imposed upon russia had zero effect. i argued against off the court's claim that we've gone and erased russia as a superpower and our sanctions were successful in what we intended them to do.

edit:

and even more evidence that we've gone too far is bringing in a countrylike finland that has been considered neutral for hundreds of years and has been a place where other delegations could meet and conduct business and discuss peace agreements; again due to western russian fear-mongering has gone and become a potential threat to russia... by their own doing!

The problem is we don't know what Putin really wants. There are quotes by him or his right hand men that they either only want east Ukraine or rule from Vladivostok to Lisbon. Quotes of Ukraine being a brotherstate to having no right to exist in its own entity. He also threatened the baltic states in the past.

So western Europe has to assume it's the worst case scenario, especially after Russia starting its attack on Ukraine.

Finland is a great example. Yeah, they've been neutral, but the have a history of wars with Russia as they tried to expand into Scandinavia in the past. Finland seeked out NATO after Russia's attack on Ukraine. Russia is doing this to itself not the US.

[diamenz]

He basically erased Russia as a super power.




We are in this to take from Russia. And we have already successfully done so.


In response to the war of aggression against Ukraine, which is said to violate international law, the EU has imposed unprecedented sanctions. They complement the existing measures that have been initiated since 2014 due to the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation.

Even before the invasion, there were 2,695 sanctions against Russian private individuals, companies or state bodies. Since February 22, 2022, 12,077 new punitive measures have been added.

The sanctions create the breeding ground on which alternative structures for circumvention emerge. And by the end of 2022, the federal government had no information about the effect of the sanctions. The effect of the first eleven sanctions packages has apparently evaporated.

Russia has now expanded its transport capacities. A large proportion of oil and gas is now transported via the northern route, even in winter.

Russia is said to be surprisingly weak militarily, but significantly stronger economically than the West expected. The sanctions against Russia have so far largely failed to have any effect. But Russia has prepared itself for a war of attrition that will last for years. Moscow wants to advance slowly and exhaust Ukraine in order to dash the West’s hopes of a Ukrainian victory. Putin is seeking a fundamental security agreement with the West.

The sanctions were aimed at cutting off Russia from the international financial system and depriving the country of hundreds of billions in foreign exchange assets in order to make foreign trade impossible for Moscow. But there was an almost complete de-dollarization of Russian trade. Moscow switched to paying in the local currencies of its international partners, primarily China and India. In this way, Russian industry was able to maintain its production level in the first ten months of 2022 and recorded growth in November and December. Even stronger growth came for 2023. Nobody would have expected Russia to surpass Germany and Great Britain in economic growth. The sanctions have made Russia the strongest European economy.

Despite Western sanctions, 80% of the planet is expanding its cooperation with Russia. Giants like China and India are increasing Russian energy imports. The European Council on Foreign Relations stated in a study: The West is united but separated from the rest of the world.

First, the Kremlin realized that this would not be a short-term problem, but a long-term opportunity. They encouraged Russia to increasingly produce previously imported goods itself. Second, it became clear to Moscow that the West would increasingly use economic weapons as a means of pressure. So, Russia had to strengthen its economic self-sufficiency.

Russia is far from emerging from this war weakened. On the contrary, it appears to be strengthened militarily and economically.

So, the West, we can see clearly, under-estimated; it really didn’t understand what Russia had achieved at all… The Russian leadership, they were surprised when their efforts to support the Ruble and to engage in import substitution succeeded so quickly. They thought it would work, they had done some preliminary testings, but they didn’t expect that there may be so much speed and flexibility in the Russian economy to switch from old producers to new producers, first of all. And secondly, particularly the willingness of so many non-state actors, in some cases state actors like Iran and China, and North Korea, and Venezuela, but also non-state actors to skirt the impact of sanctions. And so, as a result, the West got into, what is essentially a “losing game.”

Russia was not “destroyed by sanctions,” as US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen promised. Instead, the country’s economy has grown. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, General Valery Zalushny, even stated that the capabilities of the Russian military industry are increasing, despite the introduction of unprecedented sanctions. There is no uprising against the war in Russia; Putin’s popularity is not declining; and Russia is far from being diplomatically isolated, as shown by the weak response to boycott calls and the growing interest in Russian-favored organizations, such as BRICS.

European Suicide: The Economic War against Russia (https://www.thepostil.com/european-suicide-the-economic-war-against-russia/)

that's, believe it or not, just a short excerpt from a subsection of that particular article, which is worth reading in it's entirety if you're still convinced otherwise by western governments and media. it goes into much more detail with regard to expanding on the excerpts i quoted above.

also from that same website:

The Russian Art of War: How the West Led Ukraine to Defeat (https://www.thepostil.com/the-russian-art-of-war-how-the-west-led-ukraine-to-defeat/)

[j3lademaster]

How has this not been moved to Politics by now lol

[BurningHammer]

How has this not been moved to Politics by now lol

Bro, it's ISH. :ohwell:

[tomtucker]

The US dollar has never been stronger.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27939.jpeg


You guys just do not understand, whoever is pulling the strings of puppet Biden has done a masterful job. The US is emerging out of covid more powerful than ever.

but since inflation is skyhigh, you have to spend more for the same shit.

only a fukking moron believe things are better now than under Trump

[bladefd]

but since inflation is skyhigh, you have to spend more for the same shit.

only a fukking moron believe things are better now than under Trump

Inflation is 3%. It is lopsided for oil prices and rent prices, which are insane.

I believe we need short-term deflation to reverse some of the inflation we have had in the last 5 years.

It has nothing to do with who the president is btw. You would have to be clueless to think the president controls the inflation.

[SATAN]

but since inflation is skyhigh, you have to spend more for the same shit.

only a fukking moron believe things are better now than under Trump

You are clueless.

[RRR3]

The guy who's abetting a genocide in Palestine hasn't been bad? Wat.

[SATAN]

The guy who's abetting a genocide in Palestine hasn't been bad? Wat.

[RRR3]

The guy who's abetting a genocide in Palestine hasn't been bad? Wat.
"Hurr durr it's so funny to pretend to be RRR3 gaiz" :rolleyes:

[John8204]

The problem is we don't know what Putin really wants. There are quotes by him or his right hand men that they either only want east Ukraine or rule from Vladivostok to Lisbon. Quotes of Ukraine being a brotherstate to having no right to exist in its own entity. He also threatened the baltic states in the past.

So western Europe has to assume it's the worst case scenario, especially after Russia starting its attack on Ukraine.

Finland is a great example. Yeah, they've been neutral, but the have a history of wars with Russia as they tried to expand into Scandinavia in the past. Finland seeked out NATO after Russia's attack on Ukraine. Russia is doing this to itself not the US.

Putin wants to die in office, the whole point in this war with Ukraine is to continue to expand Russia and reclaim Soviet states. But in acutality he knows thanks to his constant murdering that he's going to be targeted when he leaves office so he's sticking around trying to expose and kill rivals with this war.

[diamenz]

the whole point in this war with Ukraine is to continue to expand Russia and reclaim Soviet states.

there's no evidence to support this claim. as a matter of fact it's ridiculous. russia's gnp is smaller than the state of texas. russia in no way, shape or form has the economic foundation to build a military capable of such a task.

[Axe]

Putin wants to die in office, the whole point in this war with Ukraine is to continue to expand Russia and reclaim Soviet states. But in acutality he knows thanks to his constant murdering that he's going to be targeted when he leaves office so he's sticking around trying to expose and kill rivals with this war.
He's hellbent on bringing back the soviet union for sure.

[diamenz]

He's hellbent on bringing back the soviet union for sure.

but we're talking about foreign policy here. just because he misses the soviet union doesn't mean he's going to take action to bring it back. like i just said, it would be foolish and not to mention logistically impossible for contemporary russia to undertake a task of that magnitude.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[Axe]

but we're talking about foreign policy here. just because he misses the soviet union doesn't mean he's going to take action to bring it back. like i just said, it would be foolish and not to mention logistically impossible for contemporary russia to undertake a task of that magnitude.
Eh regardless he'll try any means to do it. Although it may take a long time. However, he's already old and should keep in mind that russia's reputation in europe has been tarnished since back in the day.

[diamenz]

Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains.

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191843730.001.0001/q-oro-ed5-00016963

[BarberSchool]

Biden’s handlers caused the Russia/Ukraine war, dipsh!t.

Early in 2021, the jerkoffs pushed the NATO missiles closer to the Russian border, put on tons of sanctions, and allocated more missiles to both Romania and Radzikowo, immediately FOLLOWING the new sanctions.

They attempted to lock Russia out of the global economy, in retaliation for Russia simply helping Syria from being completely destroyed for Israel.

Then, these jerkoffs had OUR DIVERS commit both a crime of environmental terrorism, and an act of war against a fellow NATO alloy, when we bombed the nordstream2 pipeline in German waters.

Their actions have also exacerbated consumer fuel/food prices, etc, and gotten behind extremely unpopular social movements which attempt to further divide our nation over very unnecessary, non-urgent issues, at best…. Subversive, mentally ill issues as intra-generation punishment against a host population’s children at worst.

You don’t fancy yourself a stupid man…but I guess no one would take such a username, without at least having very poor taste/judgement.

[SATAN]

Biden’s handlers caused the Russia/Ukraine war, dipsh!t.

Early in 2021, the jerkoffs pushed the NATO missiles closer to the Russian border, put on tons of sanctions, and allocated more missiles to both Romania and Radzikowo, immediately FOLLOWING the new sanctions.

They attempted to lock Russia out of the global economy, in retaliation for Russia simply helping Syria from being completely destroyed for Israel.

Then, these jerkoffs had OUR DIVERS commit both a crime of environmental terrorism, and an act of war against a fellow NATO alloy, when we bombed the nordstream2 pipeline in German waters.

Their actions have also exacerbated consumer fuel/food prices, etc, and gotten behind extremely unpopular social movements which attempt to further divide our nation over very unnecessary, non-urgent issues, at best…. Subversive, mentally ill issues as intra-generation punishment against a host population’s children at worst.

You don’t fancy yourself a stupid man…but I guess no one would take such a username, without at least having very poor taste/judgement.

You are mad because I corrected your garbage Disney take. Get over it. So short sighted it's unbelievable. I am your god.

[jstern]

Biden’s handlers caused the Russia/Ukraine war, dipsh!t.

Early in 2021, the jerkoffs pushed the NATO missiles closer to the Russian border, put on tons of sanctions, and allocated more missiles to both Romania and Radzikowo, immediately FOLLOWING the new sanctions.

They attempted to lock Russia out of the global economy, in retaliation for Russia simply helping Syria from being completely destroyed for Israel.

Then, these jerkoffs had OUR DIVERS commit both a crime of environmental terrorism, and an act of war against a fellow NATO alloy, when we bombed the nordstream2 pipeline in German waters.

Their actions have also exacerbated consumer fuel/food prices, etc, and gotten behind extremely unpopular social movements which attempt to further divide our nation over very unnecessary, non-urgent issues, at best…. Subversive, mentally ill issues as intra-generation punishment against a host population’s children at worst.

You don’t fancy yourself a stupid man…but I guess no one would take such a username, without at least having very poor taste/judgement.

This is a very good summary of what's been going on. The problem is that they know all of that, they just don't care. Whether it's due to low IQ (Off the Court), mental illness (Blade), old age, (Jasper), or obesity (Axe), they just don't care and will defend their support for Joe Biden til the end. They would rather perform fellatio on Joe Biden than admit that he's a horrible person/President.

Nothing that anyone says will change anything, which is the reason why FultznationRISE/Akrazotile doesn't even engage with them, like in the old days. Even Patrick Chewing hasn't been as active as of late. At least we have Baller234, who's the ISH rookie of the year and currently has the energy.

[Axe]

Fukking aspergers greg really can't help but type multiple usernames in his stupid essays. :roll: :facepalm

[SATAN]

Fukking aspergers greg really can't help but type multiple usernames in his stupid essays. :roll: :facepalm

:yaohappy:

[SATAN]

This is a very good summary of what's been going on. The problem is that they know all of that, they just don't care. Whether it's due to low IQ (Off the Court), mental illness (Blade), old age, (Jasper), or obesity (Axe), they just don't care and will defend their support for Joe Biden til the end. They would rather perform fellatio on Joe Biden than admit that he's a horrible person/President.

Nothing that anyone says will change anything, which is the reason why FultznationRISE/Akrazotile doesn't even engage with them, like in the old days. Even Patrick Chewing hasn't been as active as of late. At least we have Baller234, who's the ISH rookie of the year and currently has the energy.

Sounds like the "oWn ThE lIbS" crew can't handle being given a taste of own medicine. :milton

[BarberSchool]

You are mad because I corrected your garbage Disney take. Get over it. So short sighted it's unbelievable. I am your god.
When did you ever correct me on anything ?

I don’t even recall anyone’s interaction here, I just sh!t on Disney and their recent string of ownership amongst people who never deserve to hold such a storied company, only to abuse it and fumble it away, after spending so much time and money to acquire it.

That phenomenon can be applied to many such acquisitions in the last several decades in USA. A group who has so much hateful and spiteful and vengeful ambition, but zero self awareness or vision/composure to navigate at that level, once they complete the takeover/acquisition.

A bunch of delusional prodigal sons ruining everything their fathers and zayde’s worked so hard to monopolize

[John8204]

there's no evidence to support this claim. as a matter of fact it's ridiculous. russia's gnp is smaller than the state of texas. russia in no way, shape or form has the economic foundation to build a military capable of such a task.

The man likely murdered 2,000 of his own citizens to get power in 1999.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVumec3ZQ9A

The point is not to win the war it's to take control. Putin is afraid of being overthrown and murdered so he creates wars an other to do away with his rivals and keep himself in power.

[SATAN]

When did you ever correct me on anything ?

I don’t even recall anyone’s interaction here, I just sh!t on Disney and their recent string of ownership amongst people who never deserve to hold such a storied company, only to abuse it and fumble it away, after spending so much time and money to acquire it.

That phenomenon can be applied to many such acquisitions in the last several decades in USA. A group who has so much hateful and spiteful and vengeful ambition, but zero self awareness or vision/composure to navigate at that level, once they complete the takeover/acquisition.

A bunch of delusional prodigal sons ruining everything their fathers and zayde’s worked so hard to monopolize

As I said, Disney already had a shady reputation since it's inception. Made some good stuff but also published blatant propaganda and racist material.

[SATAN]

The man likely murdered 2,000 of his own citizens to get power in 1999.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVumec3ZQ9A

The point is not to win the war it's to take control. Putin is afraid of being overthrown and murdered so he creates wars an other to do away with his rivals and keep himself in power.

diamenz is absolutely brainwashed.

[diamenz]

The man likely murdered 2,000 of his own citizens to get power in 1999.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVumec3ZQ9A

The point is not to win the war it's to take control. Putin is afraid of being overthrown and murdered so he creates wars an other to do away with his rivals and keep himself in power.

i'm not going sit here and defend putin's thug mentality.

however, my point still stands - russia poses no existential threat to nato or europe. there's no reason to fear that russia will be a regional hegemony in europe, period. it's all western-manufactured nonsense and fear-mongering.

[Axe]

i'm not going sit here and defend putin's thug mentality.

however, my point still stands - russia poses no existential threat to nato or europe. there's no reason to fear that russia will be a regional hegemony in europe, period. it's all western-manufactured nonsense and fear-mongering.
Naturally. Russia is a lot weaker now than they were before. However, that could change if they're left unchecked. Putin and his boys are stealthy bastards, after all.