How does NBA get away with paying women less, and a nondiverse ownership/playership?

[FultzNationRISE]

The same people own both the NBA and WNBA, but they pay men WAAAAAAY, WAAAAY, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than women.

In other fields this is condemned, even when men made more effort to negotiate a higher salary, or had more experience/achievement on their resume, or whatever the case may be that justified it. Apparently there IS no justification for a man ever making more than a woman in the same job, and yet the NBA does it unapologetically and still gets called a 'progressive' league.

Also how come the governorship of the NBA has no black or latino representation, and how come less than 1% of the players combined are latino/asian/arab/indian?

Men are paid WAY more than women.
Ownership is 99% white.
Players are 75% black, 25% white.

How is this 'progressive diversity?'

Why arent all levels of the NBA diverse and how come there's a massive gender pay gap?

Can anyone explain why this is okay in the NBA but not in any other field of business? (Or even soccer where gender pay was recently mandated to be equal if I'm not mistaken).

[MrFonzworth]

What a meltdown

[FultzNationRISE]

What a meltdown


I'm rubber and youre glue
Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you

[1987_Lakers]

I'm rubber and youre glue
Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you

:eek:

[iamgine]

They pay women a lot more than men, percentage wise.

[Akeem34TheDream]

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Ownership is 99% white.
Players are 75% black, 25% white.

How is this 'progressive diversity?'



Do jews count as white?

[BarberSchool]

Fultz, don’t go too far with this character/themes. Or people will stop taking your BranStan bit at full face value. You got a good thing going. I enjoy your work. Tread carefully !

[j3lademaster]

Ownership is 99% white.
Players are 75% black, 25% white. Hispanics and asian baskets should count as 4 points/ 6 points respectively, so we can get those diversity numbers up.

[Phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq_B8&ab_channel=HAIL_ViennaVA

[tpols]

Well... in office jobs and positions women can actually do a similar job to a man. They're not intellectually inferior really at all on a general level but physically they're massively inferior. That's why they make no money in sports.

[90sgoat]

Do jews count as white?

Sometimes, sometimes not.

[90sgoat]

Hispanics and asian baskets should count as 4 points/ 6 points respectively, so we can get those diversity numbers up.

Big brain.

Honestly we need a new competing bball league to have fun with stuff like this.

[rmt]

IMO, each league should be paid the "market" rate based on ratings, popularity, draw power.

For example, in tennis (for example Miami Open), when the men stars play, the stadium is full. When the men's match finishes and there's a women's match (unless it's somebody like Serena Williams), the stadium empties and the fans go watch another men's match.

In Grand Slams, the woman who wins is paid the same as the man who wins even though the women only play best of 3 sets while the men must play best of 5 - NOT EVEN EQUAL WORK for equal pay (regardless of popularity).

[j3lademaster]

Big brain.

Honestly we need a new competing bball league to have fun with stuff like this.I've been saying to put some fake boobs and hair on some g-leaguers and watch them go to town on the wnba. set some quota like only one per team or something, or it'll just become gleague 2.0.

[warriorfan]

the wnba should be each team gets one nba player

maybe the nba players could collude to load management on a lot of nights so it could be a guy going wilt mode

[Xiao Yao You]

the wnba should be each team gets one nba player

maybe the nba players could collude to load management on a lot of nights so it could be a guy going wilt mode

who wants to play with a bunch of women?

[1_BAD_TIGER]

Look at how much advertisers are willing to pay for commercial spots during the games, it's a lot lower then the men's games because not a lot of people are watching.
How many people are attending games, how much WNBA merchandise is being sold
Most people can't name 5 WNBA players, hell five WNBA Franchises in fact.

[FultzNationRISE]

Look at how much advertisers are willing to pay for commercial spots during the games, it's a lot lower then the men's games because not a lot of people are watching.
How many people are attending games, how much WNBA merchandise is being sold
Most people can't name 5 WNBA players, hell five WNBA Franchises in fact.

Yeah but soccer and apparently tennis have adopted a "combined revenue split" model even though men generate more revenue in those sports.

Why is the NBA still operating like a regressive patriarchy?

Isnt the men's players union woke? Dont they want to do their part for equality? They always say they do. They wear t-shirts that say 'EQUALITY' on them.

Why are they being anti-women?

And why do woke fans and journalists let the NBA get away with it while complaining about other institutions?

[1_BAD_TIGER]

Well the NBA is a business and without the NBA there would be no WNBA. I'm not aware of the soccer and tennis situations as I don't follow them, but this country is a free market system and the market dictates profit, men are generating most of the profit.

[Xiao Yao You]

isn't the WNBA losing money? They should feel lucky with whatever they get. NBA salaries are based on the revenue the league is making

[FultzNationRISE]

Nevermind, I dont wanna go back and forth for pages.

Just had a simple question to asked, and I asked it.

Most people either missed the point or ducked the thread entirely.


In other words business as usual :lol

[Phoenix]

Look at how much advertisers are willing to pay for commercial spots during the games, it's a lot lower then the men's games because not a lot of people are watching.
How many people are attending games, how much WNBA merchandise is being sold
Most people can't name 5 WNBA players, hell five WNBA Franchises in fact.

I can pretty confidently assume there's more women attending a random Pistons/Wizards ( the two bottom dwellers of the east) game in the middle of January than attending the WNBA finals last year(I'm too lazy to check the two teams involved). Like Bill said in the video I posted, when are they gonna grab their end of the couch? :lol:confusedshrug:

[Baller234]

A few years back I watched a panel of various athletes talking about this very issue. One of them was Lisa Leslie.

Leslie was upset that the WNBA players weren't being paid "fairly" compared to the men, and even suggested that the NBA players should fork over a portion of their salaries to WNBA players considering their earnings are so astronomical and they wouldn't miss it.

I don't remember her exact words, but it was something along the lines of... "You're telling me these guys can't give up a weekend in Vegas or a weekend at the club and send that money to the WNBA players?" Of course nobody on the panel challenged or her or anything and just clapped along like she just said something brilliant.

The ignorance and entitlement is just off the charts.

[Phoenix]

Leslie was upset that the WNBA players weren't being paid "fairly" compared to the men, and even suggested that the NBA players should fork over a portion of their salaries to WNBA players considering their earnings are so astronomical and they wouldn't miss it.



So not only should the NBA fund the WNBA, the NBA players should also offset the WNBA players salaries. Somebody should have asked if the shoe were on the other foot would the women support the men, but she was probably speaking to a panel full of feminists and simps.

[Baller234]

So not only should the NBA fund the WNBA, the NBA players should also offset the WNBA players salaries. Somebody should have asked if the shoe were on the other foot would the women support the men, but she was probably speaking to a panel full of feminists and simps.

You could tell it came from a place of resentment. Notice the first thing that came to her mind was the players going out and clubbing.

The average WNBA salary is over $100k. If anyone could use some extra charity, it definitely isn't a bunch of women who get paid six figures and up to play a kids game for 5 months out of the year. Just because you play basketball doesn't mean you are entitled to millions of dollars and an early retirement.

[FultzNationRISE]

A few years back I watched a panel of various athletes talking about this very issue. One of them was Lisa Leslie.

Leslie was upset that the WNBA players weren't being paid "fairly" compared to the men, and even suggested that the NBA players should fork over a portion of their salaries to WNBA players considering their earnings are so astronomical and they wouldn't miss it.

I don't remember her exact words, but it was something along the lines of... "You're telling me these guys can't give up a weekend in Vegas or a weekend at the club and send that money to the WNBA players?" Of course nobody on the panel challenged or her or anything and just clapped along like she just said something brilliant.

The ignorance and entitlement is just off the charts.


Thats the thing, a lot of these players and coaches preach these values or tell us to vote for people who spout these exact sentiments. “Women should always make the same as men no matter what!”

And yet NBA players are the most egregious example of gender based income inequality anywhere on the planet.

Just kinda funny how they never get called out.

[Full Court]

Thats the thing, a lot of these players and coaches preach these values or tell us to vote for people who spout these exact sentiments. “Women should always make the same as men no matter what!”

And yet NBA players are the most egregious example of gender based income inequality anywhere on the planet.

Just kinda funny how they never get called out.

They get called out all the time. You must be hanging around a bunch of people like RRR3 or something.

[Phoenix]

You could tell it came from a place of resentment. Notice the first thing that came to her mind was the players going out and clubbing.

The average WNBA salary is over $100k. If anyone could use some extra charity, it definitely isn't a bunch of women who get paid six figures and up to play a kids game for 5 months out of the year. Just because you play basketball doesn't mean you are entitled to millions of dollars and an early retirement.

Women's sports simply isn't a draw, its complete delusion. Hell, as mentioned above in Tennis the female grand slam winner earns equal to the mens winner ( while playing less sets), but without looking at the data I'm sure the mens matches generally draw better, so they're objectively getting a worse deal. The WNBA players scream about underpayment ignoring what their league draws relatively and how they actually exist in the first place. They literally want their cake, eat it and lose weight while doing so.

[Xiao Yao You]

Retired players that helped get the NBA where it is deserve money more than WNBA players that are a losing venture

[Shaquille O'Neal]

The WNBA has been subsidized 100% from the NBA since it's inception in 1996. If the WNBA were a business it'd have been closed down in 1997 for not turning a profit.
Period.

If you can't understand the basic concept of you get paid your market worth, you should really pick up a book or two. There's a reason no one shows up at the WNBA victory parades. The product is awful and has never generated a net profit. Ever.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Also, show me ANY sport where there's "diversity". Most sports are dominated by superior black athletes. It's based on meritocracy. You hire the best players you can, not based on a race, gender, sexual preference or religion.
Same for the owners - everyone has the opportunity (equality) to go invent something, work hard, build a brand/business and buy your own GD team.
Don't see reports of a black billionaire being refused ownership of a sports team because they're black. They hire coaches based on meritocracy as well. Sometimes it's the white guy, often times it isn't. But to hire someone based on the fact they're in a "protected class" does not lead to the best person having the job. You want your surgeon operating on you because the hospital needed to fill a transgender quota? Fugg outta here.

If you truly believed in diversity in sports, you'd want there the be an equal representation of the population in the NFL and the NBA. Blacks are way over represented in those two sports. Not very diverse is it?

[BarberSchool]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq_B8&ab_channel=HAIL_ViennaVA

Truly a MF masterclass.

He ain’t the GOAT, but he’s one of the greats of his era no question.

[BarberSchool]

who wants to play with a bunch of women?
Some sick batty bwoy who got brow beaten by his abusive drug addict mother, for $1000, Alex.

Buy his f@ggot ass some tits, a weave, and a makeup artist and let him average 56ppg on 82% FG, on his way to 15 straight titles.

[BarberSchool]

isn't the WNBA losing money? They should feel lucky with whatever they get. NBA salaries are based on the revenue the league is making
They have never turned a profit in their entire existence. NBA teams earnings are used to pay the WNBA stadium and practice facilities rental costs and the WNBA players salaries, as well as the WNBA marketing budget.

[tomtucker]

Agree with OP........

"Players are 75% black, 25% white"

that is disgraceful, NBA should have a rule that say it should 50-50 !!