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ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:39 PM
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ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:39 PM
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ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:40 PM
Its important to remember:


THIS IS ALL NORMAL.

There is nothing to see here and nothing to worry about.

warriorfan
01-19-2024, 06:49 PM
Vax cucks about to roll up in here and beg for everyone to stop talking about it :roll:

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 06:53 PM
We are literally dying at a normal rate right now :roll:

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ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:55 PM
What is % of expected?!

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 06:55 PM
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"EvEry One Is DyInG I PromISe!" :roll:

ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:56 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64209221
https://news.sky.com/story/excess-deaths-reach-highest-level-since-pandemic-peak-how-much-are-nhs-failings-to-blame-12780446

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 06:56 PM
What is % of expected?!

Our average death rate calculated over years is what is expected. We are dying LESS than usual.

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 06:57 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64209221

2022 was right in the middle of covid.

ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 06:59 PM
2022 was right in the middle of covid.

No it wasnt. Covid was way on the downslope and all measures stopped.

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 07:03 PM
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https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/lifestyle/newlywed-weight-loss-influencer-mila-de-jesus-dies-at-35/

She had major weight loss surgery and then her skin reacted badly and she died.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/s-three-months-dealing-situation-74934515.jpg



And here you are trying to sell her death as a vaccine issue. She's Brazilian and likely unvaccinated.

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 07:04 PM
No it wasnt. Covid was way on the downslope and all measures stopped.

That was right in the middle of Omicron look at the death rate chart I just posted.

Bill Gates
01-19-2024, 07:07 PM
"Recapping the last 4 days"

Roughly 150,000 humans die every single day.

But here you are freaking out over 5 of them :roll:

ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 07:09 PM
https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/lifestyle/newlywed-weight-loss-influencer-mila-de-jesus-dies-at-35/

She had major weight loss surgery and then her skin reacted badly and she died.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/s-three-months-dealing-situation-74934515.jpg



And here you are trying to sell her death as a vaccine issue. She's Brazilian and likely unvaccinated.


Well, thats 1 out the way... Did you google all these and thats all you got?

I think the DJ, apparently, died of overdose... just off 1 Insta comment.


Youre telling me news of people "unexpectedly dying" leaving everyone "stunned" were also a daily thing before the vax? :lol

ArbitraryWater
01-19-2024, 07:09 PM
"Recapping the last 4 days"

Roughly 150,000 humans die every single day.

But here you are freaking out over 5 of them :roll:


Yeah, take the hint: "unexpected"


Thats the "killer" right there


Not just unexpected of course. These are all people with some kind of public position, and the news are full of them. Purely proportionally, it doesnt add up.

Jasper
01-19-2024, 07:26 PM
vax'ed people live longer ...

un vaxed people die cause they are obsessed with Nazi Dumpster

Norcaliblunt
01-19-2024, 07:26 PM
Literally both sides of this debate are the exact same.

They both are just people who are afraid to die. Lol.

“Get the vaccine so you don’t die”!!!!!!!

“Don’t get the vax so you won’t die” !!!!!!!

Lmao.

The same thing with gun control. Wimps afraid of death on both sides.

Guess what y’all?

We all gonna die.

SATAN
01-19-2024, 07:39 PM
Literally both sides of this debate are the exact same.

They both are just people who are afraid to die. Lol.

“Get the vaccine so you don’t die”!!!!!!!

“Don’t get the vax so you won’t die” !!!!!!!

Lmao.

The same thing with gun control. Wimps afraid of death on both sides.

Guess what y’all?

We all gonna die.

Did you actually think that was an enlightening statement while typing it out? :facepalm

Norcaliblunt
01-19-2024, 07:43 PM
Did you actually think that was an enlightening statement while typing it out? :facepalm


Enlightening?

No I didn’t. Lol. Why would I?

But let me ask you, did you actually think this was a good diss or troll attempt while typing it out?

Lmao.

Weak sauce

tpols
01-19-2024, 09:46 PM
"Recapping the last 4 days"

Roughly 150,000 humans die every single day.

But here you are freaking out over 5 of them :roll:


You didn't have this same energy when the media was on a non stop fear mongering campaign for "COVID deaths", billy boy.

ShawkFactory
01-20-2024, 02:03 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64209221
https://news.sky.com/story/excess-deaths-reach-highest-level-since-pandemic-peak-how-much-are-nhs-failings-to-blame-12780446

2 things here:

1) "Among the worst in 50 years"? So..not the worst? What is the 50 year cutoff for and what caused a spike in the other years presumably also "amongst" the highest?
2) Both articles discuss Covid itself and subsequent treatment methods for those experiencing extreme or adverse effects of it. The one you snipped literally claims that men aged 50-64 have seen by far the highest percentage of such deaths. There are 9+ pages of graphs re-capping all of the items discussed, which I'm sure you didn't look at. Seems to be a lot of factors at play and happy to discuss in more detail if you're interested. But only if you actually read what you posted.

It's fine if you're going to be The Headline Guy buy I don't expect then to see you calling out others for been fear-mongered.

That's not to say that it definitively isn't the vaccine btw. I don't know and neither do you. I DO know that using internet article headlines to validate your beliefs is not the answer.

ArbitraryWater
01-20-2024, 10:37 AM
2 things here:

1) "Among the worst in 50 years"? So..not the worst? What is the 50 year cutoff for and what caused a spike in the other years presumably also "amongst" the highest?


Ah, well its all good then... its only among the worst, not the worst.

lol.

You can check the 2nd article. Close to highest level in 70 years.


Regardless, if you want less headlines and more data and the weak/obvious bs reasons given for inexplicabe deaths, which should tell you everything to begin with:

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ah, and what caused that?...


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ShawkFactory
01-20-2024, 01:23 PM
You didn't have this same energy when the media was on a non stop fear mongering campaign for "COVID deaths", billy boy.

Yea that IS interesting. On one hand you have people dying potentially from Covid-related illness and the other side saying "shut up people die all of the time". And now you have those exact same groups of people doing the exact same things but in reverse.

Guess that's what happens when politics are approached in such a tribal manner.

Bill Gates
01-20-2024, 03:32 PM
Yea that IS interesting. On one hand you have people dying potentially from Covid-related illness and the other side saying "shut up people die all of the time". And now you have those exact same groups of people doing the exact same things but in reverse.

Guess that's what happens when politics are approached in such a tribal manner.

Only I'm not saying "who cares people die all the time!".

The OP posted a handful of deaths in an effort to make it seem like that isn't normal. I'm pointing out that is more than normal. 150,000 people die every day, so pointing out singular instances proves absolutely nothing.

In order to prove anything you have to look at rates as a whole:

https://www.clubvita.net/assets/images/general/_generalContent/Top-Charts-23-07-Graph.png

Bill Gates
01-20-2024, 03:36 PM
Deniers using pseudo-celebs is humorous though.

"Look everyone! The cousin of Arnold Schwarzenegger's personal trainer during the 1980s died at age 48!"

ShawkFactory
01-20-2024, 03:51 PM
Only I'm not saying "who cares people die all the time!".

The OP posted a handful of deaths in an effort to make it seem like that isn't normal. I'm pointing out that is more than normal. 150,000 people die every day, so pointing out singular instances proves absolutely nothing.

In order to prove anything you have to look at rates as a whole:

https://www.clubvita.net/assets/images/general/_generalContent/Top-Charts-23-07-Graph.png

I think that the potential onset of myo and pericarditis is at least worth continuing to look into. As is the in-practice latency period for the spike proteins introduced through mRNA vaccination, compared to effects of spike introduced via Covid itself.

Nothing is conclusive yet in any way, which of course makes utilizing people’s death for the vaccination agenda highly inappropriate at best.

But what can you do.

Baller234
01-20-2024, 04:50 PM
Yea that IS interesting. On one hand you have people dying potentially from Covid-related illness and the other side saying "shut up people die all of the time". And now you have those exact same groups of people doing the exact same things but in reverse.

Guess that's what happens when politics are approached in such a tribal manner.

I'm gonna stop you right there. Those two scenarios aren't even remotely the same.

There was nothing we could do about Covid because it was already here and spreading. It was an airborne virus. We shut down the entire country for weeks and months on end and everyone pretty much still caught it anyway. It's not that we wanted anyone to die from Covid, we just didn't agree with the government's illogical and drastic measures. Those deaths were never going to be avoided, not unless we truly shut down the entire world for real. No essential services, no leaving your house, no anything.

Meanwhile, every single vaccine related death could have been avoided. And if it does turn out that we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these deaths are linked to the vaccine, the side that was adamant about forcing it upon the population is going to have to take responsibility.

There is no equivalency here.

ShawkFactory
01-20-2024, 06:12 PM
I'm gonna stop you right there. Those two scenarios aren't even remotely the same.

There was nothing we could do about Covid because it was already here and spreading. It was an airborne virus. We shut down the entire country for weeks and months on end and everyone pretty much still caught it anyway. It's not that we wanted anyone to die from Covid, we just didn't agree with the government's illogical and drastic measures. Those deaths were never going to be avoided, not unless we truly shut down the entire world for real. No essential services, no leaving your house, no anything.

Meanwhile, every single vaccine related death could have been avoided. And if it does turn out that we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these deaths are linked to the vaccine, the side that was adamant about forcing it upon the population is going to have to take responsibility.

There is no equivalency here.

lol even when I agree with at another side was being overzealous about something you still have something to say.

Having said that, you’re unsurprisingly going strawman city. Yes there absolutely is an equivalence in sentiment. Whether something is or isn’t avoidable has no bearing on my point. Most people don’t give a shit to research or form opinions on this outside of being told to do something or being angry at being told to do something.

Realize not comparing the situation of Covid and the situation with vaccines right? But there’s a clear delineation on thinking and neither side knows what the fvck is going on. It’s tribal shit

Baller234
01-21-2024, 12:53 PM
lol even when I agree with at another side was being overzealous about something you still have something to say.

Having said that, you’re unsurprisingly going strawman city. Yes there absolutely is an equivalence in sentiment. Whether something is or isn’t avoidable has no bearing on my point. Most people don’t give a shit to research or form opinions on this outside of being told to do something or being angry at being told to do something.

Realize not comparing the situation of Covid and the situation with vaccines right? But there’s a clear delineation on thinking and neither side knows what the fvck is going on. It’s tribal shit

It's not a matter of research, it's a matter of trust. The average person may not be a scientist, but they can tell when someone is lying or acting in bad faith.

Notice I said the average person. Plenty of people are actually of below average intelligence... I.E. the people like you who blindly put their faith in Fauci and the government health complex and couldn't tell that they were being purposely lied to.

I could understand why people 65 and up got vaccinated. I personally would not have, but that was the group hit hardest by Covid. Young and healthy people though? Total insanity. You had absolutely nothing to gain. A shining example of low IQ person at work.

ShawkFactory
01-21-2024, 02:01 PM
It's not a matter of research, it's a matter of trust. The average person may not be a scientist, but they can tell when someone is lying or acting in bad faith.

Notice I said the average person. Plenty of people are actually of below average intelligence... I.E. the people like you who blindly put their faith in Fauci and the government health complex and couldn't tell that they were being purposely lied to.

I could understand why people 65 and up got vaccinated. I personally would not have, but that was the group hit hardest by Covid. Young and healthy people though? Total insanity. You had absolutely nothing to gain. A shining example of low IQ person at work.

You’ve completed flipped the script into something that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I’ll just go keep trusting Fauci. Apparently.

Have a good day sir.

Nanners
01-21-2024, 02:21 PM
Its totally normal for seemingly healthy/athletic 35-50yos to "die suddenly"... and imagine how much harder they would have died if they were unvaccinated

Norcaliblunt
01-23-2024, 04:44 PM
Its totally normal for seemingly healthy/athletic 35-50yos to "die suddenly"... and imagine how much harder they would have died if they were unvaccinated

I think people dying is normal. Nothing but alarmist assholes on both sides.

They got you scared both ways bottom line.

“You’ll die of a virus”

“You’ll die from the vaccine”

Nothing but fear.

And self proclaimed “woke” (yeah you are of the woke breed) assholes like to choose sides as usual.

Lmao.

Norcaliblunt
01-23-2024, 04:53 PM
I hope some of you are smart enough to realize that the “30 something year old in perfect health dying” is the same rhetoric and propaganda that they used during the pandemic. It’s literally the exact same language. Lmao.

“We’ve never seen this before”

Lol.

warriorfan
01-23-2024, 05:42 PM
I think people dying is normal. Nothing but alarmist assholes on both sides.

They got you scared both ways bottom line.

“You’ll die of a virus”

“You’ll die from the vaccine”

Nothing but fear.

And self proclaimed “woke” (yeah you are of the woke breed) assholes like to choose sides as usual.

Lmao.

Yeah, that’s why the best course of action was to do nothing and just try your best to live your life how you always did.

The main beef was the mandating, a lot of these guys if had the opportunity would have held people at gunpoint to get the vaccination. That’s where shit got really ****ed up.

Norcaliblunt
01-23-2024, 05:47 PM
Yeah, that’s why the best course of action was to do nothing and just try your best to live your life how you always did.

The main beef was the mandating, a lot of these guys if had the opportunity would have held people at gunpoint to get the vaccination. That’s where shit got really ****ed up.


The biggest deflect and cover up that anti vaxers are willing to participate in is the fact that 5G is what’s responsible.


Yeah that’s what’s up.

warriorfan
01-23-2024, 06:14 PM
The biggest deflect and cover up that anti vaxers are willing to participate in is the fact that 5G is what’s responsible.


Yeah that’s what’s up.

Tbh personally i’m just trolling most of the time with vax related deaths. Even though it’s not about winning or losing, anti vax already won regardless of the vaccine deaths issue. The vaccines were proven to be largely ineffective and covid is a thing of the past. Vaxers can get worked up in a frenzy about Trump now and forget it ever happened. The whole thing was bullshit. Vaxers ate it all up and now they conveniently don’t want to talk about it anymore. The whole thing is pretty funny you have to admit.

Norcaliblunt
01-23-2024, 06:29 PM
Tbh personally i’m just trolling most of the time with vax related deaths. Even though it’s not about winning or losing, anti vax already won regardless of the vaccine deaths issue. The vaccines were proven to be largely ineffective and covid is a thing of the past. Vaxers can get worked up in a frenzy about Trump now and forget it ever happened. The whole thing was bullshit. Vaxers ate it all up and now they conveniently don’t want to talk about it anymore. The whole thing is pretty funny you have to admit.

The reality is Covid and the Vax are not what is killing these people.

While y’all are having your troll fest covering up the real causes of these deaths, real people are actually dying.

But because mainstream media has told Nanners and whoever else it’s a certain way they run with it like woke retards.


Lmao.

Bill Gates
01-23-2024, 07:36 PM
Tbh personally i’m just trolling most of the time with vax related deaths. Even though it’s not about winning or losing, anti vax already won regardless of the vaccine deaths issue. The vaccines were proven to be largely ineffective and covid is a thing of the past. Vaxers can get worked up in a frenzy about Trump now and forget it ever happened. The whole thing was bullshit. Vaxers ate it all up and now they conveniently don’t want to talk about it anymore. The whole thing is pretty funny you have to admit.

This is false. The vaccinated died at a substantially lower rate than the unvaccinated. Thousands of lives were saved.

https://images.jifo.co/2547186_1625656875106.png

Bill Gates
01-23-2024, 07:38 PM
And something that many ignore for some reason is that taking a vaccine doesn't have to be all about dying. Millions get the flu shot simply because they don't want the flu, not because they think the flu will kill them. And every year a few super rare instances of the flu shot killing someone who has an abnormal reaction happens.

Bill Gates
01-23-2024, 07:43 PM
Almost every US child gets a chicken pox vaccine now, it might as well be seen as mandated, and it isn't that old either. No long term studies that I am aware of.

Chickenpox deaths were rare, only a hundred or so a year before the vaccine.

SATAN
01-23-2024, 08:03 PM
And something that many ignore for some reason is that taking a vaccine doesn't have to be all about dying. Millions get the flu shot simply because they don't want the flu

You're dealing with people who are too scared to even get a tetanus shot yet they think smoking crack is perfectly fine.

Baller234
01-23-2024, 08:13 PM
And something that many ignore for some reason is that taking a vaccine doesn't have to be all about dying. Millions get the flu shot simply because they don't want the flu, not because they think the flu will kill them. And every year a few super rare instances of the flu shot killing someone who has an abnormal reaction happens.

But wait, I thought you guys said vaccines aren't effective unless EVERYONE else is vaccinated? Isn't that why the government said they needed to mandate the covid vax?

Also, how come this same logic doesn't apply to the flu vax? How come when it comes to the flu vax, it's okay for everyone to make their own decisions? If the majority of the population doesn't get the vax, aren't these people still vulnerable?

And what do you mean people get the flu shot because they don't want to catch the flu? When vaccinated people were still catching Covid, weren't you the same people arguing that "vaccines never provided immunity"? Isn't that why the CDC changed it's definition for the word "vaccine"?

Lucy, you have some 'splanin to do.

Baller234
01-23-2024, 08:16 PM
I cannot wait until these discussions are being had on a mainstream level and the covidians are forced to confront every lie and every bullshit piece of propaganda they blindly repeated.

Right side of history they said. :oldlol:

BurningHammer
01-23-2024, 08:54 PM
This is false. The vaccinated died at a substantially lower rate than the unvaccinated. Thousands of lives were saved.

https://images.jifo.co/2547186_1625656875106.png

https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/07162021_covidupdate.html

Just in case somebody thinks some random Twitter user made it up. It's CDC.

Unless you trust random Twitter users more. :oldlol:

Bill Gates
01-23-2024, 09:03 PM
These poor anti-vaxxers having to deal with society urging them to get vaccinated.

oh wait.

# of threads in here urging people to take the vaccine: 0
# of threads in here urging people to avoid the vaccine: 1,000,000,000,000,000

Baller234
01-23-2024, 10:06 PM
I really feel bad for these libs. It's going to be so fun watching the next few years.


"I never trusted Fauci!..."

"I never trusted the CDC!..."

"I never wanted everyone around me to be vaccinated!..."

"I never supported the mandates!..."

"I never voted for Joe Biden!..."


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Norcaliblunt
01-25-2024, 11:39 PM
You're dealing with people who are too scared to even get a tetanus shot yet they think smoking crack is perfectly fine.

Homie I’ve done worse: I’ve stayed up no sleep for 3 days smoking meth not eating anything for 72 hours straight and the first thing I ate was cubes of fermenting raw steak that had been sitting in the fridge for 4 months. I chased it down with a quart of Claravale (look it up Cali shit) and was fine.

So you really think I’m trippin on your breath?


You, your germs, and whatever punk ass virus you think you got ain’t killing shit. Lmao.

SATAN
01-25-2024, 11:43 PM
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Baller234
01-28-2024, 02:30 PM
I am still waiting for Bill Gates to explain why the covid vaccine required everyone to be vaccinated in order for it to be considered effective, but not the flu vaccine.