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Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 01:46 PM
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KD is too…..”Competitive” isn’t the word, but it’s the word I wanted to use. Hes too something…to do that on purpose. Hes not above forming the Justice league to win…but hes not gonna sprain your ankle on purpose. Just has big feet. I give that play 1 Bowen max.





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1 Bowen - Careless but unintentional. Shit happens.

2 Bowens - Meant to do that shit but good work pretending you didn’t.

3 Bowens - If he dies he dies. You didn’t set out to kill but you did set out to do extreme harm with no concern that it might be irreparable.

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 01:50 PM
I think a 4 Bowen play would have to be some


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Shit.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one in the NBA. You generally max out at three Bowens in basketball. And Karl Malone might be the all-time leader in them.

SouBeachTalents
02-07-2024, 01:54 PM
Bynum on Barea would be a 4 Bowen play

Artest on Harden & Raja on Kobe would at least be a 3.

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 01:56 PM
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Definitely not intentional. If you look at Middleton's feet, he takes off from right at the line and lands well within the line. Not that he was purposely foul baiting, it was just how his momentum carried him, and you combine that with KD's long legs and feet and it was just an inadvertent mishap. I dont think there's anything about the play KD "shouldnt" have done. Players have to make some kind of contest if anyone's gonna take the game seriously. Just an unfortunate thing that happens sometimes.

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 01:58 PM
Bynum on Barea would be a 4 Bowen play

Artest on Harden & Raja on Kobe would at least be a 3.



I mean that wasnt really a "play." That was more just like... an assault :lol

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 02:05 PM
That elbow on Harden is pretty close to a four Bowen but I feel like he might try to bullshit you and pretend he didn’t mean it. He would show self-awareness enough to not acknowledge what happened. A true 4 Bowen? You gotta be willing to get on the stand and say “I did it.” and take your punishment with total disregard for the rules of society.


This is a 4 Bowen



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Can’t argue. If you ask all that can be said is “I ****ed him up. Yes I meant to do it”.


if there is wiggle room to pretend you didn’t mean it, I might not be able to grant four. Artest on Harden is…tough. Almost a 3 and a half. But a 4 is pretty much just being a criminal and not trying to hide it.

tpols
02-07-2024, 02:21 PM
Saw that play last night and was infuriated at the flagrant call.

The main thing to look at is Middleton jumped forward. His feet were behind the 3pt line and they ended in front of it. Straight facts.

As far as Durant goes? He performed a simple close out.

Bruce bowen used to slide his foot underneath you even when you were fading away and your landing spot was behind your takeoff spot.

tpols
02-07-2024, 02:26 PM
Bynum on Barea would be a 4 Bowen play

Artest on Harden & Raja on Kobe would at least be a 3.

Raja on Kobe was a 4 Bowen Alarm.

Real tough guy. Apparently 3ball played with him in college.

tpols
02-07-2024, 02:31 PM
That elbow on Harden is pretty close to a four Bowen but I feel like he might try to bullshit you and pretend he didn’t mean it. He would show self-awareness enough to not acknowledge what happened. A true 4 Bowen? You gotta be willing to get on the stand and say “I did it.” and take your punishment with total disregard for the rules of society.


This is a 4 Bowen



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Can’t argue. If you ask all that can be said is “I ****ed him up. Yes I meant to do it”.


if there is wiggle room to pretend you didn’t mean it, I might not be able to grant four. Artest on Harden is…tough. Almost a 3 and a half. But a 4 is pretty much just being a criminal and not trying to hide it.

That's not a Bowen 4 alarm.

That's a Murder 2 charge. :lol

"Act to kill without premeditation".

FultzNationRISE
02-07-2024, 02:33 PM
What about when Wade broke Kobe's nose in an allstar game?

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 02:39 PM
That's not a Bowen 4 alarm.

That's a Murder 2 charge. :lol

"Act to kill without premeditation".


that’s what I’m saying. A four Bowen? Solid four? We aren’t even talking about sports anymore. We may all have on uniforms, and the game might technically be going on but at the moment of a four Bowen you’re in the streets.

You know that split second after somebody in MMA is clearly unconscious and the other guy has to decide this is still sports or he’s going to attempt to kill him? A four Bowen is those three or four blows that land on the out guy and the crowd has to boo you. It might be on the regular news not ESPN. That ref incident I pulled from a news broadcast.

We have to talk about calling the police. That’s a four Bowen.

tpols
02-07-2024, 03:33 PM
that’s what I’m saying. A four Bowen? Solid four? We aren’t even talking about sports anymore. We may all have on uniforms, and the game might technically be going on but at the moment of a four Bowen you’re in the streets.

You know that split second after somebody in MMA is clearly unconscious and the other guy has to decide this is still sports or he’s going to attempt to kill him? A four Bowen is those three or four blows that land on the out guy and the crowd has to boo you. It might be on the regular news not ESPN. That ref incident I pulled from a news broadcast.

We have to talk about calling the police. That’s a four Bowen.

Yea I get that. It's basically...


https://youtu.be/uAeApFut7o0?si=krcxGEMKalENzVvQ

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 05:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuZz8Kdevo

Kermit gets a 3

dunksby
02-07-2024, 05:18 PM
Nah, no way that's intentional, he ain't even looking in the direction of Middleton.

Overdrive
02-07-2024, 06:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuZz8Kdevo

Kermit gets a 3

The Rudy T hit is what I thought should be a 4. Pure assault.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2024, 06:59 PM
The Rudy T hit is what I thought should be a 4. Pure assault.

brutal stuff for sure

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 07:24 PM
Yea I get that. It's basically...


https://youtu.be/uAeApFut7o0?si=krcxGEMKalENzVvQ


Did I put you on that song some time ago to make a similar point? Anyway…yes. It’s when the barrier between sports and the streets has been crossed. You’re still at a sporting event but sports ended…now it’s just life and death. Some real

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shit. Like

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The first two elbows are sports. The rest?



https://youtu.be/aeV-6oGlT8E?si=7lxQYeCWvB5ezqJU

You just hear Beanie Sigel rhymes wafting through the air.

Kblaze8855
02-07-2024, 07:32 PM
The Rudy T hit is what I thought should be a 4. Pure assault.

The result was definitely on the level of a four, but if a fight is going on and you run up on it?

“Don’t you know I go hard to the fullest? Get involved, and I got you playing dodgeball with bullets”

Situation.

I think you have to be the intended target of a four Bowen incident and the target can’t believe it’s self-defense. The malice is key.

Kermit just turned and swung at who was running up. That he ended up with his spinal fluid pouring down his throat was tragic, but I believe unintended. 2.5 Bowens. 3 tops. I can’t make it a four just because he threw a hell of a punch, and Rudy was running into it. Just a perfect storm of terrible.

tpols
02-07-2024, 11:57 PM
The Rudy T hit is what I thought should be a 4. Pure assault.

Only because it connected. Been plenty of NBA players to throw haymakers but they miss 99% of the time. Kermits landed flush. "Precision beats power, timing beats speed".

SouBeachTalents
02-08-2024, 12:30 AM
Only because it connected. Been plenty of NBA players to throw haymakers but they miss 99% of the time. Kermits landed flush. "Precision beats power, timing beats speed".
Yeah, this would have been at minimum a 3 Bowen if this connects.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1V1D1r_PU

FultzNationRISE
02-08-2024, 02:40 AM
Yeah, this would have been at minimum a 3 Bowen if this connects.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1V1D1r_PU


Yeah, I think Shaq missed dudes on purpose with those swings, same when he whiffed on Barkley, he knew it was too dangerous to actually land blows at his size so he just swung to send a message and blow off steam, he wasnt gonna mess around and send someone to the morgue.

Kblaze8855
02-08-2024, 11:22 AM
How many Bowens?


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dunksby
02-09-2024, 02:54 AM
How many Bowens?


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Time to retire the Bowen scale, this **** needs his own.

Kblaze8855
02-12-2024, 02:04 PM
https://youtu.be/8ilZgQ0ZnPs?si=oEjsX-8hvCFqo9jY


Didn’t wanna make a whole other topic but it’s just hilarious how obvious he was with it. Dude was a downright villain. Just a bad person even ignoring the off the court stuff. It’s rare you can say that but with him you can.

Karl Malone was…just a bad human being for some of that. And you could make a whole second video just on times he pretended to accidentally kick people




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There was a site up in the early days of the internet already listing him as the greatest menace in history just off kicking people in the balls.

He might have the best case to be pure uncut scum in basketball history.

BarberSchool
02-13-2024, 04:04 AM
How many Bowens?


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Watched this 5 times in a row, and each time, my eyes wanted the stantion bolts to give way, and collapse and crush dude between the folding steel 4x4’s :lol:rockon:

Kblaze8855
02-13-2024, 09:13 AM
Watched this 5 times in a row, and each time, my eyes wanted the stantion bolts to give way, and collapse and crush dude between the folding steel 4x4’s :lol:rockon:


I’ve been trying to figure out how it didn’t result in a brawl. Even the people who weren’t exactly friends on my high school team….you them like that? Sports are done for the moment. How much of a dick could that kid be for nobody to take issue with that play?

FultzNationRISE
02-13-2024, 11:51 AM
How many Bowens?


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I love how the cheerleader on the end is just completely oblivious to what transpired and starts hyping up the crowd :roll:

But yeah I can never understand what goes thru someones head when they commit a foul like that. Even IF the other guy was playin like a dirty asshole the whole game, you take a huge risk with your own reputation and potential criminal liability doing some shit like that. Theres plenty of ways to get your cheap shots in without putting a guy at risk of paralysis or death. Just… why would you ever??

Also offensive players IMO should always slow down and just shield with their bodies when they go up in those breakaway situations, to prevent some psycho from doing exactly that. Dont leave yourself that vulnerable.

FultzNationRISE
02-13-2024, 11:52 AM
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:roll:

SouBeachTalents
02-13-2024, 12:17 PM
Damn, he managed to elbow every ATG of his era :lol

Kblaze8855
02-13-2024, 12:19 PM
I love how the cheerleader on the end is just completely oblivious to what transpired and starts hyping up the crowd :roll:

But yeah I can never understand what goes thru someones head when they commit a foul like that. Even IF the other guy was playin like a dirty asshole the whole game, you take a huge risk with your own reputation and potential criminal liability doing some shit like that. Theres plenty of ways to get your cheap shots in without putting a guy at risk of paralysis or death. Just… why would you ever??

Also offensive players IMO should always slow down and just shield with their bodies when they go up in those breakaway situations, to prevent some psycho from doing exactly that. Dont leave yourself that vulnerable.


imagine if a play like that had resulted in Derrick roses injury? Or somebody like Grant Hill? The person who did it would be an actual danger visiting that city in the future wouldn’t they? It would go deeper than sports right?

Kblaze8855
02-13-2024, 12:22 PM
Damn, he managed to elbow every ATG of his era :lol

He was the absolute master of the “accidental” elbow that you only know wasn’t an accident because he did it literally 200 times. The 2 Bowen “Good work pretending that was an accident” foul was like….the 3 most prominent feature of his game after the pick and roll and running the floor.