Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.

[Full Court]

Yep, that's right. The Clippers are now sitting atop the West.

Kawhi is playing crazy good ball. After watching a few Clippers games, I'm extremely impressed by his court IQ. He doesn't do a bunch of flashy, crazy shots. He's not like Luka in that he'll make super difficult baskets. But he has a keen ability to create good looks, and he does it over and over again, which is why his efficiency this year is ridiculous.

So can all you damage-controlling Bronies stop blaminb Westbrook for the super team Lakers ending up in the lottery? The Clips are doing just fine with him.

[kawhileonard2]

Yep, that's right. The Clippers are now sitting atop the West.

Kawhi is playing crazy good ball. After watching a few Clippers games, I'm extremely impressed by his court IQ. He doesn't do a bunch of flashy, crazy shots. He's not like Luka in that he'll make super difficult baskets. But he has a keen ability to create good looks, and he does it over and over again, which is why his efficiency this year is ridiculous.

So can all you damage-controlling Bronies stop blaminb Westbrook for the super team Lakers ending up in the lottery? The Clips are doing just fine with him.

Yep

[beasted]

Why is it that both seasons with the Clippers Westbrook is helping his team over .500, but next to the Bran-fam he's the scapegoat for the losing record?

[FultzNationRISE]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

[Full Court]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

Refresh my memory. Which conference finals was that? Is it the one where one of the teams got swept like a dirty chimney, or am I thinking of the wrong conference finals?

[1987_Lakers]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

Got em

[Duffy Pratt]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

Probably because Kawhi never got the number for Bron’s pharmicist.

[kawhileonard2]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

They were out of the play in when they had Westbrook and missed the play in the year before.

[SATAN]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

:oldlol:

[FultzNationRISE]

They were out of the play in when they had Westbrook and missed the play in the year before.

Yeah. Because he sucks.

He weighed Lebron down, and as soon as he joined the Clippers, it was the Lakers who went to the conference finals and the Clippers who got bounced in round 1.

You guys are making our exact point. What kinda numbskulls are you guys???

[Full Court]

Yeah. Because he sucks.

He weighed Lebron down, and as soon as he joined the Clippers, it was the Lakers who went to the conference finals and the Clippers who got bounced in round 1.

You guys are making our exact point. What kinda numbskulls are you guys???

If you look at the Lakers, struggling to stay above .500 despite Lebron having 3 other all star caliber players on his team, and the Clippers, who sit atop the West, it's pretty clear that Lebron was the one weighing Westbrook down.

LeDeadWeight. :confusedshrug:

[Full Court]

Got em

For a self-proclaimed basketball historian, you don't know much, do you? Perhaps you simply forgot that the Lakers were in the lottery bracket until Lebron sat out for six weeks, during which time the Lakers went on a hot streak and jumped 3 places in the standings.

[1987_Lakers]

For a self-proclaimed basketball historian, you don't know much, do you? Perhaps you simply forgot that the Lakers were in the lottery bracket until Lebron sat out for six weeks, during which time the Lakers went on a hot streak and jumped 3 places in the standings.

You mad bro?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waJotZt61Rc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA3vVzCYBB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ45JPNpNPs

[Hey Yo]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

slayed

[tpols]

Interesting.

So, which one played in the conference finals last year?

Must have been Westbrook, right?

Kawhi didn't play with Westbrook in the playoffs last year. He got hurt. Brick did put up a fight though with 24/8/7 averages.

[Full Court]

You mad bro?



And yet you can't deny that the Lakers were a lottery team until Lebron sat out for six weeks. Then they went on a hot streak, and played about the same after he came back. It was a clear cut case of "no Lebron, no difference."

[Full Court]

Kawhi didn't play with Westbrook in the playoffs last year. He got hurt. Brick did put up a fight though with 24/8/7 averages.

Exactly. Bronie fluffers aren't very intelligent.

[NBAGOAT]

Westbrook made over 40 mil with the lakers. He makes like 5mil with the clippers. Lebron/AD(include AD in this you can’t say AD is the best player on the team and then say the lakers fit issues are all on lebron because it’s his team lol) don’t have issues with westbrook if they have someone like Kyrie as a 3rd guy and westbrook plays 15-20mpg off the bench

[Full Court]

Westbrook made over 40 mil with the lakers. He makes like 5mil with the clippers. Lebron/AD(include AD in this you can’t say AD is the best player on the team and then say the lakers fit issues are all on lebron because it’s his team lol) don’t have issues with westbrook if they have someone like Kyrie as a 3rd guy and westbrook plays 15-20mpg off the bench

Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...

Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.

Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?

[NBAGOAT]

Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...

Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.

Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?

Leader is about off the court. The lakers had a bit of that but Russ wasn’t that toxic main issue was on the court chemistry and with that you’re looking at the best player. Also AD/Russ djd have chemistry issues they were a bad offense on the court together. Makes sense with 2 non shooters and Russ wasn’t a good defender either. AD needs an elite shot creator by him and Russ hasn’t been that since okc years even though he put up good numbers in hou and was.

Lebron/Russ had a net rtg of -1.5 in 2022 Russ/ad had a net rtg of -4.5 so you don’t have an argument here. Russ and AD may have seemed like they didnt have fit issues watching games but they were not good together. If you’re not playing well you have fit issues. No way you don’t contradict yourself here and your counter argument falls flat

[aj1987]

Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...

Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.

Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?

Ignoring the rest of your inane ramblings, AD is better than Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Luka,Shai, Kawhi, KD, etc.?

[Full Court]

Ignoring the rest of your inane ramblings, AD is better than Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Luka,Shai, Kawhi, KD, etc.?

^Living proof that Bronie fluffers are low-IQ idiots.

It really hurts you deeply to see your hero be a net negative, doesn't it?

[1987_Lakers]

Leader is about off the court. The lakers had a bit of that but Russ wasn’t that toxic main issue was on the court chemistry and with that you’re looking at the best player. Also AD/Russ djd have chemistry issues they were a bad offense on the court together. Makes sense with 2 non shooters and Russ wasn’t a good defender either. AD needs an elite shot creator by him and Russ hasn’t been that since okc years even though he put up good numbers in hou and was.

Lebron/Russ had a net rtg of -1.5 in 2022 Russ/ad had a net rtg of -4.5 so you don’t have an argument here. Russ and AD may have seemed like they didnt have fit issues watching games but they were not good together. If you’re not playing well you have fit issues. No way you don’t contradict yourself here and your counter argument falls flat

Completely ignored this post. lol

[Full Court]

Completely ignored this post. lol

Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.

Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.

Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either. :lol

He came with facts and actually backed up his point his statistics, you on the other hand... "AD is a top 5 player in the league".

:roll:

[NBAGOAT]

Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.

Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either. :lol

your take had no evidence besides your own opinion about AD to back it up. Everyone can have their opinion but one without reasoning behind it is weak. If AD is so good and ad/westbrook had no fit issues, why were they not good together? Could it be that westbrook just wasnt a good player in la. However if that's true, then that could be the main explanation for why the lakers overall and lebron/westbrook werent good either not just the fit issues

[Full Court]

He came with facts and actually backed up his point his statistics, you on the other hand... "AD is a top 5 player in the league".

:roll:

He is. You just refuse to acknowledge that nobody has achieved less with the amount of help LeShrivel has had.

[Full Court]

your take had no evidence besides your own opinion about AD to back it up. Everyone can have their opinion but one without reasoning behind it is weak. If AD is so good and ad/westbrook had no fit issues, why were they not good together? Could it be that westbrook just wasnt a good player in la. However if that's true, then that could be the main explanation for why the lakers overall and lebron/westbrook werent good either not just the fit issues

My "evidence" about AD is that he's possibly the best two-way player in the league. Offense nearly as good as Jokic with way better defense. The only better players in the league, taking both offense and defense into account, are Giannis, Embiid, SGA, and Jokic (Jokic's offense and overall IQ make up for his average defense). So top 5.

[SouBeachTalents]

My "evidence" about AD is that he's possibly the best two-way player in the league. Offense nearly as good as Jokic with way better defense. The only better players in the league, taking both offense and defense into account, are Giannis, Embiid, SGA, and Jokic (Jokic's offense and overall IQ make up for his average defense). So top 5.
:whatever:

[RRR3]

I miss when ISH had standards for trolling. Dull Court can’t carry the old LeBron haters’ jockstraps.

[kawhileonard2]

These are facts not opinions.

[Full Court]

I miss when ISH had standards for trolling. Dull Court can’t carry the old LeBron haters’ jockstraps.

Funny how the truth never fails to throw you Bronie fluffers into bitch fits.

:lebronamazed:

[NBAGOAT]

My "evidence" about AD is that he's possibly the best two-way player in the league. Offense nearly as good as Jokic with way better defense. The only better players in the league, taking both offense and defense into account, are Giannis, Embiid, SGA, and Jokic (Jokic's offense and overall IQ make up for his average defense). So top 5.

what evidence do you have his offense is nearly as good as jokic...

[Full Court]

what evidence do you have his offense is nearly as good as jokic...

He's averaging 25 ppg to Jokic's 26, but he's sharing the scoring load with multiple other volume scorers, whereas Jokic's only other scorer is Murray, which means he needs to shoulder a bigger share of the offense. Put AD on a less stacked team, he'd easily average 30 ppg.

However, Jokic is a far better playmaker and offensive anchor, which is why I rank him above AD even though AD blows him out of the water defensively. A lot of that is only intangibly captured and doesn't show up in stats.

[Hey Yo]

Who are the other "multiple volume scorers" beside Davis?

[Full Court]

Who are the other "multiple volume scorers" beside Davis?

Lebron and Russell. That was seriously uninformed question. Do you even follow basketball?

[Hey Yo]

Lebron and Russell. That was seriously uninformed question. Do you even follow basketball?

So why can't the top 5 player in the league Davis getting more wins with all that volume scoring around him?

[imdaman99]

Leave my boy Westbrook out of your garbage agenda threads bruh

[Full Court]

So why can't the top 5 player in the league Davis getting more wins with all that volume scoring around him?

Lol, are you lost? Did you not get the whole point of this thread? Does LeEmptyStats and LeDeadWeight ring any bells?

Remember how when Lebron sat out for six weeks last season the Lakers went on the hottest streak in the league?

[SouBeachTalents]

Lol, are you lost? Did you not get the whole point of this thread? Does LeEmptyStats and LeDeadWeight ring any bells?

Remember how when Lebron sat out for six weeks last season the Lakers went on the hottest streak in the league?
8-5 is the hottest streak in the league?

[kawhileonard2]

8-5 is the hottest streak in the league?

Yep with guys who won league mvp on the squad or led in PER.

[Hey Yo]

Lol, are you lost? Did you not get the whole point of this thread? Does LeEmptyStats and LeDeadWeight ring any bells?

Remember how when Lebron sat out for six weeks last season the Lakers went on the hottest streak in the league?

Top 5 Davis has 2 other volume scorers but can't lead LA to more wins?

[NBAGOAT]

He's averaging 25 ppg to Jokic's 26, but he's sharing the scoring load with multiple other volume scorers, whereas Jokic's only other scorer is Murray, which means he needs to shoulder a bigger share of the offense. Put AD on a less stacked team, he'd easily average 30 ppg.

However, Jokic is a far better playmaker and offensive anchor, which is why I rank him above AD even though AD blows him out of the water defensively. A lot of that is only intangibly captured and doesn't show up in stats.

one guy is a better far better playmaker and offensive anchor yet they're close on offense, i dont get the logic there. jokic also has a huge edge in efficiency 65ts% to ad's 61.5%.

Finally dlo scoring 17.5ppg is a volume scorer but mpj scoring 16ppg isnt one?? really if ad was as almost as good as jokic and he's on a more stacked team, how the hell are the lakers 20th on offense while nuggets are 10th. I have a feeling ik your answer to that question but it would be a ridiculous one.

[RRR3]

one guy is a better far better playmaker and offensive anchor yet they're close on offense, i dont get the logic there. jokic also has a huge edge in efficiency 65ts% to ad's 61.5%.

Finally dlo scoring 17.5ppg is a volume scorer but mpj scoring 16ppg isnt one?? really if ad was as almost as good as jokic and he's on a more stacked team, how the hell are the lakers 20th on offense while nuggets are 10th. I have a feeling ik your answer to that question but it would be a ridiculous one.
Bronie! Bitch fit! Fluffer! Oooooh!!!!

[aj1987]

Top 5 Davis has 2 other volume scorers but can't lead LA to more wins?

:roll:


8-5 is the hottest streak in the league?
:roll: :roll: :roll:


^Living proof that Bronie fluffers are low-IQ idiots.

It really hurts you deeply to see your hero be a net negative, doesn't it?

Answer the question, Full Retard. Actual basketball discussion isn't your thing, is it?

[Full Court]

:roll:


:roll: :roll: :roll:



Answer the question, Full Retard. Actual basketball discussion isn't your thing, is it?

^The truth REEEEAAALLY hurts this Bronie fluffer.

Weep it out, little Ashley. :lol

[Full Court]

one guy is a better far better playmaker and offensive anchor yet they're close on offense, i dont get the logic there. jokic also has a huge edge in efficiency 65ts% to ad's 61.5%.

Finally dlo scoring 17.5ppg is a volume scorer but mpj scoring 16ppg isnt one?? really if ad was as almost as good as jokic and he's on a more stacked team, how the hell are the lakers 20th on offense while nuggets are 10th. I have a feeling ik your answer to that question but it would be a ridiculous one.

Russell started out the season in a slump. What's his average over the last 15 games or so? Without looking up the stats, it has to be around 25 ppg. He's carried the scoring load every time Lebron or AD choke or don't show up.

And in answering your question, I feel like I keep having to repeat myself over and over. You haven't figured out why the Lakers are 20th on offense? Because they suck playing as a team. Do you have a problem understanding how LeDeadWeight is a team offense killer?

[1987_Lakers]

8-5 is the hottest streak in the league?

:roll:

[aj1987]

im a Bronie fluffer.

im little Ashley and ill Weep it out. :lol

As expected, still no actual basketball related reply from you, the resident *** dumpster.

[90sgoat]

Lakers are one game ahead of Jazz and being out of the playoff race.

I mean, Lebron at 37 or how old he is doesn't matter to me, but it sure doesn't seem as if he's a winning player now.

[Full Court]

As expected, still no actual basketball related reply from you, the resident *** dumpster.

^Bitch fit. :roll:

[Full Court]

Lakers are one game ahead of Jazz and being out of the playoff race.

I mean, Lebron at 37 or how old he is doesn't matter to me, but it sure doesn't seem as if he's a winning player now.

Yeah, that should be clear to everyone.