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warriorfan
02-08-2024, 03:19 PM
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tontoz
02-08-2024, 05:26 PM
Is PJ really that much of an upgrade for Dallas?

ArbitraryWater
02-08-2024, 05:32 PM
Thats weird, doesnt make any sense from Dallas

Kblaze8855
02-08-2024, 05:57 PM
Why are teams Always treating Seth like a nobody? Could his defense truly be that terrible?

FultzNationRISE
02-08-2024, 06:00 PM
Why are teams Always treating Seth like a nobody? Could his defense truly be that terrible?

I've been wondering the same thing about Christian Wood.

Guy is a VERY consistent shooter, and 6'10. But he's continually seen less and less action as he's gone from Houston to Dallas to Los Angeles over the past 3 years.

NBAGOAT
02-08-2024, 06:15 PM
pj's an upgrade and they got a 1st from okc for a swap in 2028. Along with gafford an actual backup C and I think Nico did well again. It's still going be hard to win a title with just luka/kyrie role guys but dallas is giving it a good effort when they were screwed asset wise last offseason

Axe
02-08-2024, 07:10 PM
Why are teams Always treating Seth like a nobody? Could his defense truly be that terrible?
Often overshadowed due to his older bruh.

fourkicks44
02-08-2024, 07:20 PM
Seth Curry is probably the worst defender in the league.

The take foul rule was implemented because of him.

Doomsday Dallas
02-08-2024, 09:54 PM
I like the trade for Dallas... help at PF and C is exactly what we needed... and from a contract status, keeps a core of players together to build some chemistry... so we have some direction

PJ is a PF/C who can also shoot the 3, can be rotated with Maxi... Gafford can be rotated with the rookie Dereck Lively... good for alley-opps, rebounds, and defense.

Gafford has the frame to be the type of 2011 Tyson Chandler player that we need. His contract locks him up with Lively for the next 3 years, and he's at a good age (25, 4 years exp).

PJ Washington is also locked up for the next 3 years along with Maxi... Kyrie has 3 years, and Luka has 4

We should be able to keep Josh Green, and Hardaway will still be on the team year.

We may not escape the 1st round this year... but definitely some direction for next year if we can get these players to gel and stay healthy.



Best we can hope for this year is a 6 seed, avoid the play in tournament, and maybe get lucky against our 1st round opponent... Next year I think a 3 or 4 seed is possible.



season after next:

Dallas Mavericks 2025-26 Salary Cap

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/2025/

90sgoat
02-09-2024, 07:36 AM
Is PJ really that much of an upgrade for Dallas?

No.

Remember that Grant was highly lauded by dumb Mavs fans, now he's gone and Grant v. 2 is back.

Both Gafford and PJ don't move the needle. Gafford might help some with rebounding, but Kidd probably won't play him.

Getting Dinwiddie back would be better. It was a huge mistake not to try to get Dorian Finney-Smith back.

90sgoat
02-09-2024, 07:37 AM
I like the trade for Dallas... help at PF and C is exactly what we needed... and from a contract status, keeps a core of players together to build some chemistry...

What's the core?

Which among the new players seem to have chemistry with Luka and each other, cause I don't see it.

It's only Kleber, Powell and Josh Green that seem to have some offcourt chemistry.

Nico is just bringing in random journeymen with no regards for fit.

ImKobe
02-09-2024, 11:11 AM
I've been wondering the same thing about Christian Wood.

Guy is a VERY consistent shooter, and 6'10. But he's continually seen less and less action as he's gone from Houston to Dallas to Los Angeles over the past 3 years.

Because if they're not making shots they're usually a huge net-negative. They can still do well in the 2nd unit, but there's only so many minutes u can play them, and even less come PO time.

Doomsday Dallas
02-11-2024, 01:10 AM
What's the core?

Which among the new players seem to have chemistry with Luka and each other, cause I don't see it.

It's only Kleber, Powell and Josh Green that seem to have some offcourt chemistry.

Nico is just bringing in random journeymen with no regards for fit.


My point is, the way the contracts are set up... we can keep our top 7 players together for the next 3 years, they can build chemistry and maybe have a small window for a Championship run.

This is the core for the next 3 years:

Luka
Kyrie
Dereck Lively II
Daniel Gafford
PJ
Maxi
Josh Green

Hardaway (2 years)

This is about the best we can do to build something serviceable around Luka & Kyrie.

BarberSchool
02-11-2024, 01:27 AM
Luka
Kyrie
Hardaway
Dereck Lively II
Josh Green
Dante Exum
Daniel Gafford
PJ Washington
Maxi Kleber
Derrick Jones Jr.
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell
That healthy roster can win a 7-game series against anyone except :

Healthy Boston
Healthy Denver

Xiao Yao You
02-11-2024, 09:58 AM
My point is, the way the contracts are set up... we can keep our top 7 players together for the next 3 years, they can build chemistry and maybe have a small window for a Championship run.

This is the core for the next 3 years:

Luka
Kyrie
Dereck Lively II
Daniel Gafford
PJ
Maxi
Josh Green

Hardaway (2 years)

This is about the best we can do to build something serviceable around Luka & Kyrie.

3 years of Kyrie is asking a lot. How long before he leaves the reservation again?

Real Men Wear Green
02-11-2024, 10:36 AM
I've seen a few hearsay articles now claiming Grant Williams wasn't fitting in to the Dallas locker room. Given what we know about Kyrie Irving does that still count as a negative?

Manny98
02-11-2024, 11:00 AM
I've seen a few hearsay articles now claiming Grant Williams wasn't fitting in to the Dallas locker room. Given what we know about Kyrie Irving does that still count as a negative?

Given what we know of Grant Williams he's a loudmouth who talks way too much for a mediocre player

Glad he's off the team

Real Men Wear Green
02-11-2024, 11:37 AM
Given what we know of Grant Williams he's a loudmouth who talks way too much for a mediocre player

Glad he's off the team
Aren't you a Nets fan? Actually scratch that there's no such thing as a Nets fan. Dallas is likely no better nor no worse for his absence. They're first or second round either way.

tpols
02-11-2024, 11:46 AM
No.

Remember that Grant was highly lauded by dumb Mavs fans, now he's gone and Grant v. 2 is back.

Both Gafford and PJ don't move the needle. Gafford might help some with rebounding, but Kidd probably won't play him.

Getting Dinwiddie back would be better. It was a huge mistake not to try to get Dorian Finney-Smith back.

This didn't age well. Gafford and PJ are exactly the type of athletes the Mavs needed not mini curry or fat grant.

tpols
02-11-2024, 11:47 AM
I've seen a few hearsay articles now claiming Grant Williams wasn't fitting in to the Dallas locker room. Given what we know about Kyrie Irving does that still count as a negative?

Difference is Kyrie has 10x more talent than Grant and he's had absolutely no problem in the Dallas locker room. More fake news from you.

ArbitraryWater
02-11-2024, 11:50 AM
So far so good

Manny98
02-11-2024, 11:54 AM
Aren't you a Nets fan? Actually scratch that there's no such thing as a Nets fan. Dallas is likely no better nor no worse for his absence. They're first or second round either way.

Kyrie is my favorite player so ill root for whatever team he's on

Real Men Wear Green
02-11-2024, 12:07 PM
Difference is Kyrie has 10x more talent than Grant and he's had absolutely no problem in the Dallas locker room. More fake news from you.

"I've seen a few hearsay articles." If you want to continue being stupid I can post links. Actually you can't help but to be a moron regardless. No one would say Grant Williams is a better player than Irving.

tpols
02-11-2024, 12:10 PM
"I've seen a few hearsay articles." If you want to continue being stupid I can post links. Actually you can't help but to be a moron regardless. No one would say Grant Williams is a better player than Irving.

Bro you sound like a jilted Lover. Kyrie hasn't been in Boston for over half a decade. Let it go. It's over. Put your big boy pants on and move on and stop acting like a female.

Real Men Wear Green
02-11-2024, 12:16 PM
Bro you sound like a jilted Lover. Kyrie hasn't been in Boston for over half a decade. Let it go. It's over. Put your big boy pants on and move on and stop acting like a female.

You acude me of lying. I point out why you're full of shit. You respond with this. You're an idiot. Give up.

ArbitraryWater
02-11-2024, 12:25 PM
Where is DMAVS

Manny98
02-11-2024, 12:27 PM
Bro you sound like a jilted Lover. Kyrie hasn't been in Boston for over half a decade. Let it go. It's over. Put your big boy pants on and move on and stop acting like a female.

:oldlol:

Axe
02-12-2024, 09:15 AM
Difference is Kyrie has 10x more talent than Grant and he's had absolutely no problem in the Dallas locker room. More fake news from you.
Why didn't the Cs get past the second round when kyrie was active for the playoffs in 2019? With williams, they've been to three conference finals and a finals berth in the last five years.