OKC Thunder @ Dallas Mavericks 2/10 3pm

[tpols]

Hopefully we get a good Saturday afternoon game.

[tpols]

Luka is making a statement. :roll:

This guy is the king of 1st quarter tidal waves that I've ever seen.

[tpols]

Who is this Gafford guy?

:biggums:

Apparently the best alley oop dunker in the NBA. Between him and Lively coming back Dallas has a real big man rotation now since the days of 2011 and Tyson Chandler.

[tpols]

47 points in the 1st quarter.

Not even close to over though. OKC has offense too. SGA is a midrange assassin and Chet is a sniper.

[FultzNationRISE]

Luka vs Shai is kinda like the guard version of Joker vs Embiid.

Altho personality/demeanor wise it’s actually Luka and Embiid who are similar to each other, and Joker and SGA.

[tontoz]

Who is this Gafford guy?

:biggums:

Apparently the best alley oop dunker in the NBA. Between him and Lively coming back Dallas has a real big man rotation now since the days of 2011 and Tyson Chandler.

Gafford was having a good year for us. Having Luka and Kyrie feeding him he should do well there

[tpols]

OKC is good man... even after taking a Mike Tyson haymaker they cut it to single digits.

[FultzNationRISE]

When the Mavs are fully healthy - which they pretty much have not been at all this season - theyre honestly no joke.

I think the two teams that sort of outpace everyone in terms of “ceiling” if theyre healthy and play to their full potential, are the Nuggets and Celtics. But after that, the next 10 teams really dont have a clear pecking order, they can all beat each other, and beat the top 2 teams if they catch the right breaks.

A healthy Mavs frankly have as good a chance to make a finals run this year as just about anyone.

[Xiao Yao You]

When the Mavs are fully healthy - which they pretty much have not been at all this season - theyre honestly no joke.

I think the two teams that sort of outpace everyone in terms of “ceiling” if theyre healthy and play to their full potential, are the Nuggets and Celtics. But after that, the next 10 teams really dont have a clear pecking order, they can all beat each other, and beat the top 2 teams if they catch the right breaks.

A healthy Mavs frankly have as good a chance to make a finals run this year as just about anyone.

8th place. 3 1/2 games out of the lottery

[FultzNationRISE]

8th place. 3 1/2 games out of the lottery

What place did the Heat finish in the standings last year?

[tpols]

What place did the Heat finish in the standings last year?

Boom. :oldlol:

I'm more scared of the Thunder than the Wolves and fruity rudy and playoff KAT tbh.

[FultzNationRISE]

What place did the Heat finish in the standings last year?

No response :lol

[tpols]

This Gafford fella completely took over the game. After watching Dallas play tweeners like klieber and Dwight Powell this is crazy to watch they have a legit big man to throw it to.

[Xiao Yao You]

No response :lol

wasn't rhetorical?

[tpols]

wasn't rhetorical?

He's talking about how you're underestimating the Mavs. Luka would lay a dump on you guys in a series and he actually has a loaded cast if they all play.

You honestly should pray they aren't a 7 or 8 seed.

Wolves were an 8 seed last year with Gobert, KAT and Edward's core and aside from a hot start they're the same team this year that got throttled in the 1st round.

[Xiao Yao You]

He's talking about how you're underestimating the Mavs. Luka would lay a dump on you guys in a series and he actually has a loaded cast if they all play.

You honestly should pray they aren't a 7 or 8 seed.

Wolves were an 8 seed last year with Gobert, KAT and Edward's core and aside from a hot start they're the same team this year that got throttled in the 1st round.

on what guys? I'm not playing

Wolves definitely aren't the same team this year. Where you been? Mavs aren't the same team either for that matter

[FultzNationRISE]

He's talking about how you're underestimating the Mavs. Luka would lay a dump on you guys in a series and he actually has a loaded cast if they all play.

You honestly should pray they aren't a 7 or 8 seed.

Wolves were an 8 seed last year with Gobert, KAT and Edward's core and aside from a hot start they're the same team this year that got throttled in the 1st round.

Everyone else's fault but Toody.

[Xiao Yao You]

Everyone else's fault but Toody.

Actually I've gotten the impression it's all Gobert's fault. The Wolves win it's because of Edwards and Kat. They lose it's because of Gobert. Funny how a troll's mind works

[Trollsmasher]

Presti should be fired

[tpols]

on what guys? I'm not playing

Wolves definitely aren't the same team this year. Where you been? Mavs aren't the same team either for that matter

Don't play coy. We all know you root for the wolves in the playoffs.

And honestly... the Mavs or AD Lebron Lakers would whoop Minnesota or at the very least give them an unbelievable fight.

The West is loaded. Youre not gonna face some scrub ass team in the 1st round. LA and Dallas if both healthy might be favored as 8 seeds which is crazy but understandable in today's load management era where star studded teams half ass the regular season.

[Xiao Yao You]

Don't play coy. We all know you root for the wolves in the playoffs.

And honestly... the Mavs or AD Lebron Lakers would whoop Minnesota or at the very least give them an unbelievable fight.

The West is loaded. Youre not gonna face some scrub ass team in the 1st round. LA and Dallas if both healthy might be favored as 8 seeds which is crazy but understandable in today's load management era where star studded teams half ass the regular season.

Again making the playoffs healthy would be my first worry if I was the Lakers.

I'm not facing anyone but trolls on ISH

[BarberSchool]

Who is this Gafford guy?

:biggums:

Apparently the best alley oop dunker in the NBA. Between him and Lively coming back Dallas has a real big man rotation now since the days of 2011 and Tyson Chandler.
And the real hidden hand helping it all mesh so soon with Livley was TYSON CHANDLER HIMSELF ….

… hope Gafford learns as quick as lively does !

Tyson is building a strong resume for developing young bigs.

[ArbitraryWater]

Mavs had one of the best highlight games ever.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yE2j2jp5_4



Absolute showcase.


Good money.

[ArbitraryWater]

Again making the playoffs healthy would be my first worry if I was the Lakers.

I'm not facing anyone but trolls on ISH

yea you said that last year and we know how that turned out



trolls dont learn i guess

[Xiao Yao You]

yea you said that last year and we know how that turned out



trolls dont learn i guess

odds are against it. Trolls certainly don't do well with facts you are correct there. They're a year older. Good luck!

[FultzNationRISE]

Mavs had one of the best highlight games ever.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yE2j2jp5_4



I dont mind a little leeway in the dribbling rules, I dont think we have to go back to 1960 style handles, but I do think Kyrie should be called for that blatant double dribble stutter move he does at 0:43. He practically palmed it, double dribbled it, and carried it all in the same move. If you dont wanna give defenses a COMPLETE disadvantage you could at least start by calling those.

[Xiao Yao You]

yep that shit is ridiculous

[SATAN]

Again making the playoffs healthy would be my first worry if I was the Lakers.

I'm not facing anyone but trolls on ISH

Fuming

[Doomsday Dallas]

Mavs had one of the best highlight games ever.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yE2j2jp5_4



Absolute showcase.


Good money.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoeYD_r2uDQ

[Manny98]

Boom. :oldlol:

I'm more scared of the Thunder than the Wolves and fruity rudy and playoff KAT tbh.
:oldlol:

[BarberSchool]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoeYD_r2uDQ
Accurate.
Send it to Cuban lol.
He needs good news about this trade deadline.
Cause he’s getting gutted elsewhere.
Mavs really did have insanely great team chemistry today with the new players.
Championship cruise level.
Rebounding edge heavy most of the game.
GREAT ENERGY.

[bison]

Mavs creepin on the come up

[BarberSchool]

Luka Doncic
Kyrie Irving
Tim Hardaway II
Derrick Lively II
Josh Green
Dante Exum
Daniel Gafford
Maxi Kleber
PJ Washington
Derrick Jones Jr
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

That roster, fully healthy, can beat any NBA squad in a 7-game series besides:

Healthy Denver
Healthy Boston

[Manny98]

Luka Doncic
Kyrie Irving
Tim Hardaway II
Derrick Lively II
Josh Green
Dante Exum
Daniel Gafford
Maxi Kleber
PJ Washington
Derrick Jones Jr
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

That roster, fully healthy, can beat any NBA squad in a 7-game series besides:

Healthy Denver
Healthy Boston

They can beat anyone including Denver and Boston

This is a team that I believe can go another level in the playoffs

[90sgoat]

Great start for the new guys, didn't watch the game, but seems promising.

Overall, this team will live and die with if Kyrie and Maxi stays healthy.

As long as Luka and Kyrie are both on the court, they can beat anyone and Kleber is the culture guy that makes everyone try a little harder on defense.

Too early to say if the new guys work out. Grant looked great in the first few games, but seems promising.

[Xiao Yao You]

They can beat anyone including Denver and Boston

This is a team that I believe can go another level in the playoffs

Manny making predictions again. Not good news if you're a Mavs fan

[ArbitraryWater]

Manny making predictions again. Not good news if you're a Mavs fan



your prediction cancels his out tbf

[FKAri]

I dont mind a little leeway in the dribbling rules, I dont think we have to go back to 1960 style handles, but I do think Kyrie should be called for that blatant double dribble stutter move he does at 0:43. He practically palmed it, double dribbled it, and carried it all in the same move. If you dont wanna give defenses a COMPLETE disadvantage you could at least start by calling those.

How are you going to call palming in real time when a guy like Kawhi or MJ are handling the ball with their huge hands? You can't. Not unless you have an advanced AI for refs.

[Xiao Yao You]

your prediction cancels his out tbf

what predictions are those?

[ArbitraryWater]

what predictions are those?

Mavs being no good, lakers being bad, all your former Jazz predictions, etc.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mavs being no good, lakers being bad, all your former Jazz predictions, etc.

Didn't say the Mavs were bad nor the Lakers. They are currently play-in teams with guys that have a spotty injury or mental history. What predictions did I make for the Jazz? That they wouldn't do what needs to be done to win? I've never been wrong in that

[FultzNationRISE]

Didn't say the Mavs were bad nor the Lakers. They are currently play-in teams with guys that have a spotty injury or mental history. What predictions did I make for the Jazz? That they wouldn't do what needs to be done to win? I've never been wrong in that

The thing you have to understand is, just because the play-in team Toody led last year was dispatched easily in the first round, doesnt guarantee all of them will be. The Heat were a play-in team last year and made the finals. Eight seeds have upset one seeds in previous years as well. Toody wasnt able to do it, but others have. So to write off teams based on where they stand today, that doesnt make sense.

Toody has also struggled in the playoffs as a higher seed. He just doesnt have a good track record in the playoffs, spanning two different teams. Maybe youre projecting how things usually end up for him onto other players? But that's not necessarily going to be the case.

[Xiao Yao You]

The thing you have to understand is, just because the play-in team Toody led last year was dispatched easily in the first round, doesnt guarantee all of them will be. The Heat were a play-in team last year and made the finals. Eight seeds have upset one seeds in previous years as well. Toody wasnt able to do it, but others have. So to write off teams based on where they stand today, that doesnt make sense.

Toody has also struggled in the playoffs as a higher seed. He just doesnt have a good track record in the playoffs, spanning two different teams. Maybe youre projecting how things usually end up for him onto other players? But that's not necessarily going to be the case.

Haven't written anyone off. A lot of ball to be played. The odds are against teams with old guys that can't stay on the floor or guys who are due to check out mentally yet again. Being a high seed has better odds than having to win games even to get into a series. Just the way it is. Again facts.

Gobert's track record is fine. Two playoff upsets as the lower seed. Lost one as the higher seed. Not sure they were favored though since they obviously weren't as good as their seed. Funny how everything gets turned into Gobert though. :facepalm

[FultzNationRISE]

Haven't written anyone off. A lot of ball to be played. The odds are against teams with old guys that can't stay on the floor or guys who are due to check out mentally yet again. Being a high seed has better odds than having to win games even to get into a series. Just the way it is. Again facts.

Gobert's track record is fine. Two playoff upsets as the lower seed. Lost one as the higher seed. Not sure they were favored though since they obviously weren't as good as their seed. Funny how everything gets turned into Gobert though. :facepalm


Because you dont hold him to the same standard of evaluation as every other player.

[Xiao Yao You]

Because you dont hold him to the same standard of evaluation as every other player.

Same standard. Impact. When you make bad teams good you get my respect.

[ArbitraryWater]

Same standard. Impact. When you make bad teams good you get my respect.


so what is Mitchell doing in Cleveland?

[BarberSchool]

Luka Doncic
Kyrie Irving
Tim Hardaway II
Derrick Lively II
Josh Green
Dante Exum
Daniel Gafford
Maxi Kleber
PJ Washington
Derrick Jones Jr
Jaden Hardy
Dwight Powell

That roster, fully healthy, can beat any NBA squad in a 7-game series besides:

Healthy Denver
Healthy Boston


They can beat anyone including Denver and Boston

This is a team that I believe can go another level in the playoffs

FULL TILT Healthy Celtics squad might get outrebounded by this Dallas team, and Luka & Kyrie will probably each have some massive 45-50pt explosion, but I don’t think they would beat Boston in a series. Keep in mind, Boston shoots a TON of 3’s, so Dallas 48min of rim protection wouldn’t be AS MUCH of an advantage in that matchup, with Zingis giving them really great spacing.

And with Denver’s big roster, the rebounding would be even, and Denver’s superior coaching and experience would be enough to beat this Mavs roster. Unless somehow Green & Washington can frustrate Murray BADLY for 4 games.

But both Mavericks and Clippers ROSTERS look really really good, and have a lot of different lineups, each to deal with specific opponent strengths. I also really think a huge factor in Lively’s development (Tyson Chandler), will also help Gafford add a few more tricks on both sides of the ball before the playoffs, as well as Tyson/Powell/Maxi will all help Gafford get much more proficient at READING when to roll for a lob, versus when to set a gortat screen.

Nobody will want to face this new Mavs roster, if healthy, in the post season.

[Xiao Yao You]

so what is Mitchell doing in Cleveland?

He joined a good team as he did in Utah

[NBAGOAT]

FULL TILT Healthy Celtics squad might get outrebounded by this Dallas team, and Luka & Kyrie will probably each have some massive 45-50pt explosion, but I don’t think they would beat Boston in a series. Keep in mind, Boston shoots a TON of 3’s, so Dallas 48min of rim protection wouldn’t be AS MUCH of an advantage in that matchup, with Zingis giving them really great spacing.

And with Denver’s big roster, the rebounding would be even, and Denver’s superior coaching and experience would be enough to beat this Mavs roster. Unless somehow Green & Washington can frustrate Murray BADLY for 4 games.

But both Mavericks and Clippers ROSTERS look really really good, and have a lot of different lineups, each to deal with specific opponent strengths. I also really think a huge factor in Lively’s development (Tyson Chandler), will also help Gafford add a few more tricks on both sides of the ball before the playoffs, as well as Tyson/Powell/Maxi will all help Gafford get much more proficient at READING when to roll for a lob, versus when to set a gortat screen.

Nobody will want to face this new Mavs roster, if healthy, in the post season.

the mavs could give a run but they wouldnt defend well enough vs the clippers unless lively makes another leap. Washington isnt a good defender

[Axe]

The thing you have to understand is, just because the play-in team Toody led last year was dispatched easily in the first round, doesnt guarantee all of them will be. The Heat were a play-in team last year and made the finals. Eight seeds have upset one seeds in previous years as well. Toody wasnt able to do it, but others have. So to write off teams based on where they stand today, that doesnt make sense.

Toody has also struggled in the playoffs as a higher seed. He just doesnt have a good track record in the playoffs, spanning two different teams. Maybe youre projecting how things usually end up for him onto other players? But that's not necessarily going to be the case.
In other words, not worth the $205 million in the contract...

[ArbitraryWater]

He joined a good team as he did in Utah

and added 7 wins to them and probably more this year while they gave up pieces for him.

[Xiao Yao You]

and added 7 wins to them and probably more this year while they gave up pieces for him.

the pieces they gave up as good as they were is part of the improvement I'd guess. You aren't going far with 3 bigs unless they can defend like McDaniel and Gobert and Sexton wasn't going to be happy with his role I don't imagine.