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Duffy Pratt
02-19-2024, 01:48 PM
I looked back every 10 years to the sixties:

1964 - 49 fouls called
1974 - 46
1984 - 54
1994 - 44
2004 - 25
2014 - 21
2024 - 3

So what happened between 94 and 04? And again between 04 and now?

ImKobe
02-19-2024, 03:56 PM
I looked back every 10 years to the sixties:

1964 - 49 fouls called
1974 - 46
1984 - 54
1994 - 44
2004 - 25
2014 - 21
2024 - 3

So what happened between 94 and 04? And again between 04 and now?

It's become a glorified 3PT shootaround. When was the last time we saw a real hard foul in ASG? The one I can think of is when Wade broke Kobe's nose in 2012 (I'm sure there's been more).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLvKkoxM68

Druckenmiller
02-19-2024, 04:43 PM
It's become a glorified 3PT shootaround. When was the last time we saw a real hard foul in ASG? The one I can think of is when Wade broke Kobe's nose in 2012 (I'm sure there's been more).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLvKkoxM68

There hasn't been anything as gay as the NBA all-star game on TV since Queer as Folk was on Showtime.

Most rediculous thing of all time. Looks like a bunch of showgirls being told how pretty they are during the pregame introductions.

L.Kizzle
02-19-2024, 06:57 PM
I looked back every 10 years to the sixties:

1964 - 49 fouls called
1974 - 46
1984 - 54
1994 - 44
2004 - 25
2014 - 21
2024 - 3

So what happened between 94 and 04? And again between 04 and now?

Between 94 and 04, the pace was slower and hand checking still in effect.

Three points hadn't taken off.

94 = 30 (24 from East, Scottie Pippen attemps 9 of them thangs!)
04 = 46 (Ray Allen only shot 4, Baron Davis shot 6)
14 = 100 (Steph Curry first All-Star game, attemps 11)

BarberSchool
02-19-2024, 07:00 PM
There hasn't been anything as gay as the NBA all-star game on TV since Queer as Folk was on Showtime.

Most rediculous thing of all time. Looks like a bunch of showgirls being told how pretty they are during the pregame introductions.It’s only as gay as you want it to be.

It’s ridiculously soft and lazy, imho a total casual Sunday morning ymca 40+ low energy scrimmage … but gay ? Nah lol

Baller234
02-19-2024, 07:36 PM
It’s only as gay as you want it to be.

It’s ridiculously soft and lazy, imho a total casual Sunday morning ymca 40+ low energy scrimmage … but gay ? Nah lol

Nah the league is pretty gay now. Look at how the players carry themselves at these events. Look at how they dress.

Every game and every telecast has like it's own little fashion show going on now.

warriorfan
02-19-2024, 07:39 PM
Between 94 and 04, the pace was slower and hand checking still in effect.

Three points hadn't taken off.

94 = 30 (24 from East, Scottie Pippen attemps 9 of them thangs!)
04 = 46 (Ray Allen only shot 4, Baron Davis shot 6)
14 = 100 (Steph Curry first All-Star game, attemps 11)
wait till you hear the new bullshit kids been saying about “hand checking has no effect on the game” :lol

tpols
02-19-2024, 07:48 PM
It stopped being a competition under the logic "well we don't want anybody to get hurt in the 1 out of 80-100 games this season". It's the same reason we have load management. When a 200 million dollar contract is on the line players dont care about winning a basketball game as much.

Baller234
02-19-2024, 07:54 PM
It stopped being a competition under the logic "well we don't want anybody to get hurt in the 1 out of 80-100 games this season". It's the same reason we have load management. When a 200 million dollar contract is on the line players dont care about winning a basketball game as much.

This is probably the truth.

As fans we tend to be hypocrites sometimes. We want them to give it their all in the all-star game, but if someone were to get seriously hurt we would all be saying, "Why is he going so hard for the all-star game!?!?"

Fans and the media have expressed they care about being healthy for the playoffs above all else. This is the bed we made unfortunately.

Duffy Pratt
02-19-2024, 09:27 PM
Between 94 and 04, the pace was slower and hand checking still in effect.

Three points hadn't taken off.

94 = 30 (24 from East, Scottie Pippen attemps 9 of them thangs!)
04 = 46 (Ray Allen only shot 4, Baron Davis shot 6)
14 = 100 (Steph Curry first All-Star game, attemps 11)

Here were the average number of fouls called in each decade in a regular season game:

60s - 52
70s - 49
80s - 50
90s - 45
00s - 44
10s - 41
20s - 38

Trend is clearly down, markedly so from the 80s to the 90s (pace?), and then again since the 10s (3 pt explosion?).

But here’s the differential between the regular season and all star game. All are lower in the all-star game:

60s - 3
70s - 3
80s - 4
90s - 1
00s - 19
10s- 20
This year - 35

Druckenmiller
02-20-2024, 02:21 AM
The NBA has become a bunch of dudes trying to manage a load.

Kblaze8855
02-20-2024, 11:27 AM
Somewhere along the lines they decided fans wanted to see 150 threes just because they cheer when a tough one goes in.

Wally450
02-20-2024, 11:47 AM
The most competitive I've seen the All Star game is the 4th quarter when they played to 24 or something after Kobe passed. Guys were actually playing defense and playing like a real game.

tpols
02-20-2024, 12:02 PM
This is probably the truth.

As fans we tend to be hypocrites sometimes. We want them to give it their all in the all-star game, but if someone were to get seriously hurt we would all be saying, "Why is he going so hard for the all-star game!?!?"

Fans and the media have expressed they care about being healthy for the playoffs above all else. This is the bed we made unfortunately.


Guys will sit out the playoffs too if it means preserving themselves to get another big bag. Look at Kawhi... by the end of his career his load management and sitting out playoffs every year probably netted him an extra 200+ million dollars.

brownmamba00
02-20-2024, 01:33 PM
That wasnt even a bball game bro not even a pickup gm like ive never seen something so bad and forced.

Like if you nikkas dont want to play stay the **** home. They'd rather stay home and play fornite or some shit. The NBA is ****ing soft collegeboy bullshit.

FKAri
02-20-2024, 05:34 PM
I guess it must mean the refs are letting them play. Love that physical ball. Pause.


It stopped being a competition under the logic "well we don't want anybody to get hurt in the 1 out of 80-100 games this season". It's the same reason we have load management. When a 200 million dollar contract is on the line players dont care about winning a basketball game as much.

That's it.

Jasper
02-20-2024, 08:14 PM
media and fans call out the players on no defense.

Fact is each of these guys are millionaires and do not want to risk a injury on a meaningless game as this.

As I stated before have the all-star game after the chip series , and make it east vs west and million bucks to each player who wins.

Xiao Yao You
02-20-2024, 08:27 PM
media and fans call out the players on no defense.

Fact is each of these guys are millionaires and do not want to risk a injury on a meaningless game as this.

As I stated before have the all-star game after the chip series , and make it east vs west and million bucks to each player who wins.

some players season is over in April. They're going to come back in June and play? Even more injury risk there

Round Mound
02-20-2024, 08:56 PM
Its not just aboult fouls. Ofcourse the game is softer now but worries me the most is the lack of passion and love for the game. These kids today don't feel for the game like back then. They probably lagued at Dennis Rodman's cry when he became defensive player of the year. That's real basketball. When you love you have to cry. If you don't then you are not in love. Simple as that.

Xiao Yao You
02-20-2024, 08:57 PM
Its not just aboult fouls. Ofcourse the game is softer now but worries me the most is the lack of passion and love for the game. These kids today don't feel for the game like back then. They probably lagued at Dennis Rodman's cry when he became defensive player of the year. That's real basketball. When you love you have to cry. If you don't then you are not in love. Simple as that.

Gobert cried and ISH laughed

L.Kizzle
02-20-2024, 09:27 PM
media and fans call out the players on no defense.

Fact is each of these guys are millionaires and do not want to risk a injury on a meaningless game as this.

As I stated before have the all-star game after the chip series , and make it east vs west and million bucks to each player who wins.
I don't recall a player getting injured in an All-Star game.
You don't get injured giving effort.

Doomsday Dallas
02-21-2024, 12:22 AM
Winner should get home court advantage in the Finals.

problem solved.

L.Kizzle
02-21-2024, 12:33 AM
Winner should get home court advantage in the Finals.

problem solved.

Well, then they'll slack in the regular season. Imagine have the best record in the league, but then playing say a play in team like the 20223 Heat that just so happen to make it to the Finals and the East won the All-Star game.

Duffy Pratt
02-21-2024, 12:49 AM
I don't recall a player getting injured in an All-Star game.
You don't get injured giving effort.

Wade broke Kobe’s nose.

Doomsday Dallas
02-21-2024, 12:55 AM
Well, then they'll slack in the regular season. Imagine have the best record in the league, but then playing say a play in team like the 20223 Heat that just so happen to make it to the Finals and the East won the All-Star game.

This is the only way to save the All-Star game.

maybe it should be done every other year. One year they go by best record, The next year they go by ALL STAR game.

L.Kizzle
02-21-2024, 01:05 AM
Wade broke Kobe’s nose.
I mean, ish happens.

FKAri
02-21-2024, 01:36 AM
This is the only way to save the All-Star game.

maybe it should be done every other year. One year they go by best record, The next year they go by ALL STAR game.

Losing team gets 10 lashes for each player after the game. When Silver is handing over the trophy and they're popping bottles on the court, we can see in the background ****** bent over butt naked taking it medieval style. 20 is excessive. 10 is firm but fair. And if Rich Paul or some NBAPA geek comes running out with some paperwork, they can get it too for accessory.

Duffy Pratt
02-21-2024, 05:13 PM
Losing team gets 10 lashes for each player after the game. When Silver is handing over the trophy and they're popping bottles on the court, we can see in the background ****** bent over butt naked taking it medieval style. 20 is excessive. 10 is firm but fair. And if Rich Paul or some NBAPA geek comes running out with some paperwork, they can get it too for accessory.

How about, East v. West. For every 5 points in differential, the losing Conference has to turn over a game check to the winning conference, to be distributed equally. Thus, if your conference loses, everyone on your team loses a game check, maybe more than one. Bet the game would end up being more competitive than the playoffs.