who will you be voting for in november and why?

[diamenz]

who will you be voting for in november and why?

[SATAN]

Mind your own business.

[jstern]

I made the mistake of making the Do you support Joe Biden? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503151-Do-you-support-Joe-Biden) thread public, because it meant that those who voted yes would have to show their faces, even with severe TDS. And even with TDS it's just embarrassing to admit that you support Joe Biden, not just because of what a disaster he has been (The wide open border, inflation, murders, the hundreds of thousands dead Ukrainians and Russians). But the way he touches little kids. So the results are not going to be very accurate.

[Bill Gates]

Unsurprisingly the same posters who constantly talk about IQ levels are the same posters who think a poll in this place means something.

[jstern]

VictorMosquito also voted Trump and Biden.

[bladefd]

I will vote for who you tell me to diamenz. Who should I vote for and why?

[diamenz]

I will vote for who you tell me to diamenz. Who should I vote for and why?

you're asking who i would i recommend voting for? personally i'm not a fan of any of the candidates including rfk. if i were to go to the voting booth in november, it would certainly not be for joe biden, i can tell you that much. i don't support open borders, nor funding two wars we have no business being a part while we're 33 trillion $ in debt nor do i support virtue signaling for apparent 'minority groups' that democrats really don't give two shits about.

would i vote trump or rfk? probably not. if trump were to take a stance against our foreign policy establishment then yes - absolutely.

[Patrick Chewing]

There is no way Trump loses this election.

[Lakers Legend#32]

There is no way Trump loses this election.

Evidence?

You also said there was going to be a Red Wave in 2022 that never materialized.

[2qr3]

I will vote for who you tell me to diamenz. Who should I vote for and why?

Diamenz may harbor his own intricate web of biases, motivations, or agendas, when offering his recommendation. His prioritization of specific issues or candidates might not necessarily resonate with your own beliefs or interests. Placing unwavering trust in his guidance, without scrutiny could potentially result in backing a candidate who fails to authentically reflect your values. Therefore, I must strongly advise against unquestioningly adhering to anyone's suggestion on whom to support in the election, including mine.

You, as an individual, possess a kaleidoscope of unique perspectives, and blindly adhering to someone else's counsel means disregarding your own unique viewpoint. This approach deprives you of the opportunity to thoroughly evaluate the available choices.

[diamenz]

Diamenz may harbor his own intricate web of biases, motivations, or agendas, when offering his recommendation. His prioritization of specific issues or candidates might not necessarily resonate with your own beliefs or interests. Placing unwavering trust in his guidance, without scrutiny could potentially result in backing a candidate who fails to authentically reflect your values. Therefore, I must strongly advise against unquestioningly adhering to anyone's suggestion on whom to support in the election, including mine.

You, as an individual, possess a kaleidoscope of unique perspectives, and blindly adhering to someone else's counsel means disregarding your own unique viewpoint. This approach deprives you of the opportunity to thoroughly evaluate the available choices.

thank you. blade made me feel extremely uncomfortable when he asked that question. i have no idea why he'd be so compelled to look for my guidance on a topic that should be decided entirely on his own accord. at first i thought he was just being facetious, but given how much he's demonstrated his inability to think for himself and not be programmed by msnbc, i immediately dismissed that possibility.

[bladefd]

Diamenz may harbor his own intricate web of biases, motivations, or agendas, when offering his recommendation. His prioritization of specific issues or candidates might not necessarily resonate with your own beliefs or interests. Placing unwavering trust in his guidance, without scrutiny could potentially result in backing a candidate who fails to authentically reflect your values. Therefore, I must strongly advise against unquestioningly adhering to anyone's suggestion on whom to support in the election, including mine.

You, as an individual, possess a kaleidoscope of unique perspectives, and blindly adhering to someone else's counsel means disregarding your own unique viewpoint. This approach deprives you of the opportunity to thoroughly evaluate the available choices.

I was hoping for a compelling argument from him as to why Trump is the best candidate for the job. I didn't get one. All I got was jibberish propaganda you would hear on FauxNews.

"open borders"
"funding 2 wars"
"33 trillion in debt"
"virtue signaling"

Nonsense phrase words of Fauxnews crowd that they enjoy throwing around. I expected as much. It would be a waste of time to refute him on the propaganda phrases so I left it alone for my own sanity.

[jstern]

thank you. blade made me feel extremely uncomfortable when he asked that question. i have no idea why he'd be so compelled to look for my guidance on a topic that should be decided entirely on his own accord. at first i thought he was just being facetious, but given how much he's demonstrated his inability to think for himself and not be programmed by msnbc, i immediately dismissed that possibility.

Blade needs to learn to stop blindly following what outside entities tell him. He needs to learn to think for himself. But since he's not going to, and/or might not be capable of doing so due to potential mental illness, I would suggest for him to blindly follow diamenz, instead of CNN, MSNBC, Rachel Madow, Joe Biden, etc.

[diamenz]

I was hoping for a compelling argument from him as to why Trump is the best candidate for the job. I didn't get one. All I got was jibberish propaganda you would hear on FauxNews.

"open borders"
"funding 2 wars"
"33 trillion in debt"
"virtue signaling"

Nonsense phrase words of Fauxnews crowd that they enjoy throwing around. I expected as much. It would be a waste of time to refute him on the propaganda phrases so I left it alone for my own sanity.

so in other words, if i'm understanding you correctly, you made an assumption about me being a trump guy but ended up being wrong about it?

...fox news talking points? :roll: okay. let's say that's true just for argument's sake.
which one of those issues is propaganda? furthermore, which one of those, if any, are not pressing issues (aside from of course Democrat's virtue signaling)?

you're lost bro. you need to think before you speak.

remember, i'm the same guy that convinced you otherwise over the real reasons for the ukraine war. don't make me bring up that post. so lend me at least some kind of credibility.

[diamenz]

would suggest for him to blindly follow diamenz, instead of CNN, MSNBC, Rachel Madow, Joe Biden, etc.

i wouldn't recommend it, but in all modesty, yeah - he'd probably be better off doing so considering how far he's fallen.

[bladefd]

so in other words, if i'm understanding you correctly, you made an assumption about me being a trump guy but ended up being wrong about it.

...fox news talking points? :roll: okay. let's say that's true just for argument's sake.
which one of those issues is propaganda? furthermore, which one of those, if any, are not pressing issues ((aside of course Democrat's virtue signaling)?

you're lost bro. you need to think before you speak.

All but the virtue signaling (but it tends to be exaggerated and sensationalized by sources like Fauxnews). You pick and choose how you present your arguments that suit you without taking into account the key underlying details.

For example, Biden has deported more illegals than Trump, and how Republicans were the ones to kill the immigration bill because of shepherd Donald preferring to play politics. They could have had almost everything they wanted, but no sir, it would not be a good look for Donald if Biden signs it into law.

Funding 2 wars. Israel doesn't need a penny from us. We can slash it without any repercussions. For Ukraine, I agree we should not totally fund their war, but I think we can afford to throw them 30-40 billion a year to keep Russia from capturing Ukraine and hurting us more in the big picture. Ukraine is fighting a defensive war to stop Russia from toppling them. Yes, Russia was the invader on Ukrainian land.

Another example is the nonsense around "33 trillion" without considering the details, such as only about 8 trillion of it is foreign debt or that foreign countries owe us about 10 trillion in return or the fact that most of it is held by the American feds or the fact that another ~5 trillion are between American agencies or the fact that it also includes government pension funds/institution-bought bonds. Aka most of it is internal debt we owe to ourselves. Something that propaganda sources will never mention.

Do you really enjoy watching me tear down your propaganda? Does it turn you on for some sick, perverted reason?

[diamenz]

Biden has deported more illegals than Trump

has he? i'd be genuinely interested in seeing those statistics. as a side note, our deporter-in-chief barack obama did indeed deport more illegals than trump and doesn't get enough credit for it.

but the number of deportations aren't the issue when you have such a massive influx coming in. unless you're executing mass deportations the likes of what trump wants to institute, it's basically irrelevant.

the issue is our asylum seeker laws which i addressed recently in this (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?516496-Another-Illegal-Alien-kills-a-U-S-citizen&p=14887767&viewfull=1#post14887767) post. if you disagree, feel free to reply either here or there.


Republicans were the ones to kill the immigration bill because of shepherd Donald preferring to play politics. They could have had almost everything they wanted, but no sir, it would not be a good look for Donald if Biden signs it into law.

that's correct and i acknowledged this here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?516439-say-what&p=14886309&viewfull=1#post14886309).


Funding 2 wars. Israel doesn't need a penny from us. We can slash it without any repercussions.

you won't hear any argument from me.


For Ukraine, I agree we should not totally fund their war, but I think we can afford to throw them 30-40 billion a year to keep Russia from capturing Ukraine and hurting us more in the big picture. .

you already know where i stand on the subject of ukraine. early on in the war, during the counteroffensive or even in the months following you could have made that argument. now? i don't agree with that notion and i've expanded extensively on the reasons why more than once, including in back & forths with you. there's no defeating the russian army without putting us troops on the ground over there. you're only prolonging the inevitable at this stage of the war.


Ukraine is fighting a defensive war to stop Russia from toppling them. Yes, Russia was the invader on Ukrainian land.

bro. you already conceded to my extensive argument against this here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?516313-The-Tucker-Carlson-Vladimir-Putin-Interview&p=14883122&viewfull=1#post14883122) and said so yourself that i changed your mind in regard to this subject due to the thorough timeline that i presented to you with links to empirical evidence supporting my claims.


Another example is the nonsense around "33 trillion" without considering the details, such as only about 8 trillion of it is foreign debt or that foreign countries owe us about 10 trillion in return or the fact that most of it is held by the American feds or the fact that another ~5 trillion are between American agencies or the fact that it also includes government pension funds/institution-bought bonds. Aka most of it is internal debt we owe to ourselves. Something that propaganda sources will never mention.

i don't understand how any of these points make our debt situation any less serious. none of this is going to go away or be paid any time soon and we just keep printing more $ devaluing our dollar. bonds? nobody wants to buy our bonds. like you said, the fed has usually stepped in and bought up bonds but they can't do that for much longer and they know that. j|ademaster could probably touch on this subject in more detail than i ever could.

look, we're broke. we have pressing issues at home that need funding yet we think we can fund other country's wars until the end of time? when does it end? $60 billion here $12 billion there. the only things that ever gets passed in congress anymore are defense budgets and foreign aid. this is ridiculous.

if you want to read a great article about how our foreign interventions tie into our debt than look no further than this here:

America’s Wars and the US Debt Crisis (https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/2x6jggs466xgktphxb7shm4ckzn47r)


Do you really enjoy watching me tear down your propaganda? Does it turn you on for some sick, perverted reason?

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[bladefd]

bro. you already conceded to my extensive argument against this here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?516313-The-Tucker-Carlson-Vladimir-Putin-Interview&p=14883122&viewfull=1#post14883122) and said so yourself that i changed your mind in regard to this subject due to the thorough timeline that i presented to you with links to empirical evidence supporting my claims.

Ukraine was not going to do anything against Russia. What was the threat realistically? NATO expanding? They just expanded to Sweden and Finland, which resulted in more NATO on Russian border. What was the goal again?




i don't understand how any of these points make our debt situation any less serious. none of this is going to go away or be paid any time soon and we just keep printing more $ devaluing our dollar. bonds? nobody wants to buy our bonds. like you said, the fed has usually stepped in and bought up bonds but they can't do that for much longer and they know that. j|ademaster could probably touch on this subject in more detail than i ever could.

look, we're broke. we have pressing issues at home that need funding yet we think we can fund other country's wars until the end of time? when does it end? $60 billion here $12 billion there. the only things that ever gets passed in congress anymore are defense budgets and foreign aid. this is ridiculous.

if you want to read a great article about how our foreign interventions tie into our debt than look no further than this here:

America’s Wars and the US Debt Crisis (https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/2x6jggs466xgktphxb7shm4ckzn47r)

Debt is certainly an issue, but there are crucial details that folks with agendas always leave out when they mention 33 trillion. The details matter and puts the issue into realistic terms.

Bonds are bought by institutions and foreign nations. Not just the Feds. We are far from broke because of our massive GDP keeping us afloat. America profited more from COVID/2008 crash more than any of our rival nations, many who are still recovering & will be for years. I do want us to bring down the deficit to inside ~300bn/yr (slash 5% budget from every agency, reduce some of the redundancy we have around policing agencies, do a major audit to find waste, tax cuts for the rich must end), but I'm not losing sleep over the overall debt once I have the overall facts.

[Jasper]

who will you be voting for in november and why?

to keep dictatorship and Nazism out of our country

[Lakers Legend#32]

Voting Biden to protect the country from being taking over by authoritarianism/fascism and Christian nationalism.

[TheMan]

There is no way Trump loses this election.

I agree

Not a Trump or Biden fan, God no but Trump supporters are pysched and Biden won't get enough the Trump hater vote to carry him to victory.

Really pathetic though that these two idiots are our best options.

[Baller234]

to keep dictatorship and Nazism out of our country

The current president forced unwilling recipients into injecting themselves with an experimental government vaccine. He also previously referred to a former KKK recruiter (Robert Byrd) as his friend and mentor.

Tell us more about how you despise dictatorships and racism.

[Jasper]

poll shows this forum is driven by nazi dumpsters

[Lakers Legend#32]

Biden is not the lesser of two evils.

He's the far better human being than Donald Trump and it is not even close.

[Jasper]

The current president forced unwilling recipients into injecting themselves with an experimental government vaccine. He also previously referred to a former KKK recruiter (Robert Byrd) as his friend and mentor.

Tell us more about how you despise dictatorships and racism.

:lol

I have had pneumonia 15 times and bronc 12 times in my life and my lungs are fvcked up.
I took the vaccine and boosters so I can live... never have had covid.

Thank you Fausi

not into dictatorship or nazism

[j3lademaster]

Both sides want to support corporate bailouts, both sides want to flood the unskilled labor market with illegals to create record profits for the corporate overlords, both sides want to ultimately cut taxes for the rich.

Big difference is the pandering: The right has to disguise their border policies as 'I can't pass this bill because it'll make Biden look good' and the left is obviously suggesting to tax the wealthy while not closing loopholes(i.e generational wealth transfer). The pandering would cause a smaller amount of illegals under the republicans and the left will tax the wealthy more in order to keep up appearances. Big difference is the most immediate threat is another wealth tax cut creating another huge transfer of assets from the middle class to the mega rich that our economy most likely cannot survive. We were lucky we didn't see effects like the Bush era cuts that caused hedgefunds/conglomerates and corporations to oversaturate the markets and basically crash it. I do think 'wokeism' is becoming an issue in liberal states like CA NY IL(I think chicago had some ridiculous stat like no elementary students with a 5th grade reading level in some districts) but that's more societal than something that can be fixed with legislation.

At this point, I'll vote for a goldfish that does nothing for 4 years over an actively dangerous president who I KNOW will implement more cuts for the wealthy.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Leave Trump Alone!

He's busy fighting windmill cancer.

[Patrick Chewing]

poll shows this forum is driven by nazi dumpsters

You have a very limited vocabulary.

[Baller234]

This thread and this poll could have easily just been renamed to:

"Do you have Trump Derangement Syndrome?"

- Yes
- No

Because that it is only reason one could possibly have for voting for Brandon.

And of course having a pencil dick.

[Lakers Legend#32]

This thread and this poll could have easily just been renamed to:

"Do you have Trump Derangement Syndrome?"

- Yes
- No

Because that it is only reason one could possibly have for voting for Brandon.

And of course having a pencil dick.

The real TDR is Trump Devotion Syndrome.

[Patrick Chewing]

The real TDR is Trump Devotion Syndrome.

You would lead either way because you talk more about Trump than any of us combined. You have Derangement and Devotion to Trump. Your Daddy.

[Lakers Legend#32]

You would lead either way because you talk more about Trump than any of us combined. You have Derangement and Devotion to Trump. Your Daddy.

And I would never vote for him.

You have.

You are Trump's bitch.

[Patrick Chewing]

And I would never vote for him.

You have.

You are Trump's bitch.

You might as well vote for him since you talk and think about him 24/7. He is your Daddy.

[Lakers Legend#32]

You might as well vote for him since you talk and think about him 24/7. He is your Daddy.

You donate $ to Trump's legal defense team so he does not have to pay his lawyers.

Can't be more of his b!tch than this.

This is Trump Devotion Syndrome.

[Patrick Chewing]

You donate $ to Trump's legal defense team so he does not have to pay his lawyers.

Can't be more of his b!tch than this.

This is Trump Devotion Syndrome.


Yes, I have money to donate since I have a job, unlike you. The only job you have is to talk about Trump 24/7 on this board. Trump is your Daddy.

[Jasper]

Yes, I have money to donate since I have a job, unlike you. The only job you have is to talk about Trump 24/7 on this board. Trump is your Daddy.

dick wad lik u would neve donate money unless you get 200% back