Wemby goes off again! Last 8 games: 24.6/12/5 with 5.25 blocks and 42% from 3!

[RRR3]

Tonight he put up 31/12/6 on 11-17, +19 with 6 block and the win. The amount of times players are afraid to even challenge him or go near him means his block totals actually underscore how good he is at blocking shots.

He is only the third player since blocks were recorded as a stat to record 30/10/5/5 as a rookie. The other two were David Robinson and Tim Duncan, ironically enough.

[Im Still Ballin]

He's... The One.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeI1G46q0o&ab_channel=DJKhaledVEVO

[AlternativeAcc.]

That's neat

Do you still work at a library an live with your parents?

[SATAN]

Nurkic has 16 rebounds in the first half vs Chet btw...

[RRR3]

He's... The One.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeI1G46q0o&ab_channel=DJKhaledVEVO
First guy called a generational prospect since LeBron who is actually generational. Wow.

[RRR3]

I'm a lonely virgin
:lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Jesus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GQ8hFHgIjE&ab_channel=NBAonESPN

[RRR3]

Jesus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GQ8hFHgIjE&ab_channel=NBAonESPN
This is like LeBron or Shaq entering the league. Just a complete outlier.

[FultzNationRISE]

THE MANTIS!


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[ImKobe]

Bad day for the Toody stan :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Bad day for the Toody stan :oldlol:
He's been having nonstop meltdowns about Wemby :biggums:

[Im Still Ballin]

Wemby's 2023-24 EPM (+4.3) is the highest rookie season mark since Nikola Jokic's +5.5 in 2015-16.

[r0drig0lac]

the future GOAT

[Im Still Ballin]

Victor Wembanyama 2023-24:

ON-COURT: 114.9 defensive rating (Equal to the 12th-best defense in the NBA)
OFF-COURT: 122.6 defensive rating (Worse than the worst (30th) defense in the NBA)

ON/OFF NET: -7.7 defensive rating

-0.8 rDRtg when he's on the court; +6.7 rDRtg when he's off the court. Or in other words, 0.8 points above the league average and 6.7 points below the league average.

A legit DPOY candidate!

[Im Still Ballin]

From January 4th onward, San Antonio's defensive rating is 115.7 (0.0 rDRtg) and when Wemby's on the court, it's 109.6! (-6.1 rDRtg). I'm not sure what the defensive rating of the team is when he's off the court; probably still 120+. Either way, it's crazy: playing like the 2nd-best defense when he's on and the worst when he's off.

Wemby would probably be the DPOY frontrunner if he played center from the beginning of the season. He's second according to the odds right now.

[Xiao Yao You]

Bad day for the Toody stan :oldlol:

:confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

Victor Wembanyama 2023-24:

ON-COURT: 114.9 defensive rating (Equal to the 12th-best defense in the NBA)
OFF-COURT: 122.6 defensive rating (Worse than the worst (30th) defense in the NBA)

ON/OFF NET: -7.7 defensive rating

-0.8 rDRtg when he's on the court; +6.7 rDRtg when he's off the court. Or in other words, 0.8 points above the league average and 6.7 points below the league average.

A legit DPOY candidate!

have to settle for 2nd team all D this year

[Carbine]

The eye test says Wemby is the most impactful defender period right now.

[Phoenix]

This dude could be a legit MVP candidate by next year if he were actually being coached competently( as in remove the shackles and let the guy play 35+ minutes FFS) and had even a remotely decent team around him.

[Lebron23]

How many wins? LeBron at 20 won 42 games. And Averaged 27/7/7 in the low scoring era.

[tontoz]

This dude could be a legit MVP candidate by next year if he were actually being coached competently( as in remove the shackles and let the guy play 35+ minutes FFS) and had even a remotely decent team around him.

I think the minutes limit is fine. The worst case scenario would be for him to get hurt. Fewer minutes means less chance of a stress related injury.

If he was 25 then sure play him a lot of minutes. He just turned 20.

[RRR3]

How many wins? LeBron at 20 won 42 games. And Averaged 27/7/7 in the low scoring era.
Petrified.

[Manny98]

How many wins? LeBron at 20 won 42 games. And Averaged 27/7/7 in the low scoring era.

Those stats convert to 35/7/7 today and he was actually winning his team games unlike Mr Emptyyama

[Lebron23]

Those stats convert to 35/7/7 today and he was actually winning his team games unlike Mr Emptyyama

This

[Overdrive]

How many wins? LeBron at 20 won 42 games. And Averaged 27/7/7 in the low scoring era.

Lebron is a forward for the Lakers. I buys his shoes. They are very comfortable.

He score many points.

[SATAN]

Those stats convert to 35/7/7 today and he was actually winning his team games unlike Mr Emptyyama

:bowdown:

[RRR3]

Wemby scaring Bron fanatics already :ohwell:

[Phoenix]

I think the minutes limit is fine. The worst case scenario would be for him to get hurt. Fewer minutes means less chance of a stress related injury.

If he was 25 then sure play him a lot of minutes. He just turned 20.

I mean, he's playing 29 minutes as is. He could get injured in that period of time just as he could if he was playing more. Yeah the risk increases the more you play but that would be the case when he's older as well, unless you're saying that by 25 his body should be more built to withstand the rigors of an NBA season and thus you can bump his minutes to normal starter time.

[tontoz]

I mean, he's playing 29 minutes as is. He could get injured in that period of time just as he could if he was playing more. Yeah the risk increases the more you play but that would be the case when he's older as well, unless you're saying that by 25 his body should be more built to withstand the rigors of an NBA season and thus you can bump his minutes to normal starter time.


In one game 6 minutes isn't a big difference. It is the cumulative effect that can be a problem, especially at his size.

It isn't like they are competing for a playoff spot.

[Kblaze8855]

In retrospect is it better to have had Yao Ming play 26 to 28 minutes if it gave him an extra few seasons? Of course you never truly know it would have but I’m getting to the point I understand the caution. At least when you aren’t managing by sitting out. load managing with less minutes feels like a compromise. People say nobody is meant to be that big and be an athlete. Is it worth getting his raw numbers up a bit so he wins a few more awards at the cost of thousands of more jumps on those long ass feet? Rik Smits played till he was 34 and he was 7’4” 270 or so. And played 79 games his final season.

Rather have 15 years of 22/10/4/3/2 or 7 years of 28/13/6/4?

If you can be sure what happens you take the lower minutes. Is it worth the risk to find out?

if I’m the Spurs, I might prioritize a really, really good defensive back up center and keep his minutes low for a couple years. If he gets hurt anyway you look stupid, but at that point, nobody can really blame you for trying to put it off as long as you could. Great backup defender even if he can’t score would help minimize the difference when he sits. Won’t do his plus minus numbers any favors but the team being bad when your star sits doesn’t actually mean he’s better. It’s usually a reflection of the total team and his back up. You’re trying to build a strong team not build his case for goat.

Go twin towers with one off the bench, draft the best point you can find this year, the best available player next year and hope he’s got 15 years of health at 28-30 minutes a game.

[ImKobe]

How many wins? LeBron at 20 won 42 games. And Averaged 27/7/7 in the low scoring era.

Nah you don't get to move the goalposts here. He wasn't a rookie.

[1987_Lakers]

He's the real deal, completely took his game to another level this past month or so. He's basically Ralph Sampson on steroids before he got injured. That will be the only thing to worry about throughout his career, the injuries. We all know big men that size are usually injury prone, but if he can somehow stay healthy then the sky is the limit.

[Im Still Ballin]

Plays much bigger than Ralph, who wasn't nearly as tall as advertised. Sampson was more like 7'1.5" to 7'2" and had a proportionally weak wingspan and standing reach due to short arms and a longer neck.

Former Sacramento Kings coach and announcer Jerry Reynolds said Bill Russell had a bigger standing reach than Ralph when they compared measurements. This was when Russell was the coach of the team in the late '80s.


I can confirm this story is told by Jerry Reynolds. It’s from Bill’s time as Head Coach of the Kings. According to Jerry it happened in Bill’s office and Bill ask Sampson to standup and put his hand in the air. Bill stood next to him and put his hand up. Jerry says most of Bill’s hand was over the top of Sampson’s hand. Jerry says that’s when he realized Bill wasn’t like other 6’11’’ guys and things started making sense around his dominance.

There was a similar story about Bill and Kareem too. And 7'3" Swede Halbrook. Russell had an absolutely freakish standing reach.

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/515034638/photo/bill-russell-of-the-celtics-gets-warriors-wilt-chamberlains-elbow-in-his-mouth-as-he-tries-to.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=VXNjZ2jvzYMKMJaRc9zQaXOQmfLPh7YGQr4MKuVNwSQ=

https://i.ibb.co/N2qLRqR/billwilt.png

https://i.ibb.co/rMsLdy9/8edziv.gif

[r0drig0lac]

In retrospect is it better to have had Yao Ming play 26 to 28 minutes if it gave him an extra few seasons? Of course you never truly know it would have but I’m getting to the point I understand the caution. At least when you aren’t managing by sitting out. load managing with less minutes feels like a compromise. People say nobody is meant to be that big and be an athlete. Is it worth getting his raw numbers up a bit so he wins a few more awards at the cost of thousands of more jumps on those long ass feet? Rik Smits played till he was 34 and he was 7’4” 270 or so. And played 79 games his final season.

Rather have 15 years of 22/10/4/3/2 or 7 years of 28/13/6/4?

If you can be sure what happens you take the lower minutes. Is it worth the risk to find out?

if I’m the Spurs, I might prioritize a really, really good defensive back up center and keep his minutes low for a couple years. If he gets hurt anyway you look stupid, but at that point, nobody can really blame you for trying to put it off as long as you could. Great backup defender even if he can’t score would help minimize the difference when he sits. Won’t do his plus minus numbers any favors but the team being bad when your star sits doesn’t actually mean he’s better. It’s usually a reflection of the total team and his back up. You’re trying to build a strong team not build his case for goat.

Go twin towers with one off the bench, draft the best point you can find this year, the best available player next year and hope he’s got 15 years of health at 28-30 minutes a game.
Sarr

[Phoenix]

In one game 6 minutes isn't a big difference. It is the cumulative effect that can be a problem, especially at his size.

It isn't like they are competing for a playoff spot.

No, but I wonder how many games they may have had a shot at winning if he was playing more. Obviously not enough for a playoff push but its pretty clear the Spurs are positioning themselves for back to back high draft picks because they have zero assets around Wemby to flip into anything decent. That's probably playing as much into his minutes restrictions as trying to preserve him healthwise because 'at his size' will always be a thing whether its now or 5 years from now, especially if they add any weight on him.

[Xiao Yao You]

No, but I wonder how many games they may have had a shot at winning if he was playing more. Obviously not enough for a playoff push but its pretty clear the Spurs are positioning themselves for back to back high draft picks because they have zero assets around Wemby to flip into anything decent. That's probably playing as much into his minutes restrictions as trying to preserve him healthwise because 'at his size' will always be a thing whether its now or 5 years from now, especially if they add any weight on him.

teams with the top pick generally suck. This is expected and nothing new

[Phoenix]

teams with the top pick generally suck. This is expected and nothing new

I'm not sure your post refutes anything being said.

[Xiao Yao You]

I'm not sure your post refutes anything being said.

many have been acting like he should be playing more and that the Spurs should be winning games

[Phoenix]

many have been acting like he should be playing more and that the Spurs should be winning games

Many has nothing to do with my post. I clearly said they wouldn't be making a playoff push even if he was playing normal starter minutes. I just put it out there as a speculatory comment as to how many more games they may have won if he wasn't being minutes restricted. Nothing suggests I'm not aware they're a bad team in any context.

[Phoenix]

In retrospect is it better to have had Yao Ming play 26 to 28 minutes if it gave him an extra few seasons? Of course you never truly know it would have but I’m getting to the point I understand the caution. At least when you aren’t managing by sitting out. load managing with less minutes feels like a compromise. People say nobody is meant to be that big and be an athlete. Is it worth getting his raw numbers up a bit so he wins a few more awards at the cost of thousands of more jumps on those long ass feet? Rik Smits played till he was 34 and he was 7’4” 270 or so. And played 79 games his final season.

Rather have 15 years of 22/10/4/3/2 or 7 years of 28/13/6/4?

If you can be sure what happens you take the lower minutes. Is it worth the risk to find out?

if I’m the Spurs, I might prioritize a really, really good defensive back up center and keep his minutes low for a couple years. If he gets hurt anyway you look stupid, but at that point, nobody can really blame you for trying to put it off as long as you could. Great backup defender even if he can’t score would help minimize the difference when he sits. Won’t do his plus minus numbers any favors but the team being bad when your star sits doesn’t actually mean he’s better. It’s usually a reflection of the total team and his back up. You’re trying to build a strong team not build his case for goat.

Go twin towers with one off the bench, draft the best point you can find this year, the best available player next year and hope he’s got 15 years of health at 28-30 minutes a game.

Yao and Rik Smits had alot more weight on them than Wemby though, so despite being similar size hopefully he won't have the same nagging issues. I didn't realize Yao was over 300( per basketball ref anyways) but I remember he had some tree trunks for legs.

[SATAN]

https://cdn.nba.com/headshots/nba/latest/1040x760/1630578.png

[RRR3]

Watch the games. He was in foul trouble and Popovich was being a moron as usual and not running good offense on the other end. He still blocked him a ton of times

[SATAN]

Watch the games. He was in foul trouble

I was loosely watching it while watching another game. He started off good. Got a few blocks and hit some 3s. Being in foul trouble is his own fault. Monster game from Sengun. :applause:

[Manny98]

Sengun completely fried that skinny French Croissant :roll::roll::roll:

I never want to hear Emptyyama and DPOY in the same sentence :roll:

[fsvr54]

Watch the games. He was in foul trouble and Popovich was being a moron as usual and not running good offense on the other end. He still blocked him a ton of times

Sengun put him in foul trouble. Absolutely punked this rookie hypejob.

[ImKobe]

Sengun put him in foul trouble. Absolutely punked this rookie hypejob.

Idk if I'd call it punked because he did a lot of his damage against Zach Collins. Wemby got his fair share at the end there but he also blocked Sengun like 5x and should've had 2x on one possession when they called the 2nd one a foul. This was Wemby's worst game in like 2 months he's been incredibly consistent, but people sit here and wait for 1 bad game to call him a hype job lol.

[Xiao Yao You]

Idk if I'd call it punked because he did a lot of his damage against Zach Collins. Wemby got his fair share at the end there but he also blocked Sengun like 5x and should've had 2x on one possession when they called the 2nd one a foul. This was Wemby's worst game in like 2 months he's been incredibly consistent, but people sit here and wait for 1 bad game to call him a hype job lol.

until he's leading a winning team it is all hype

[ImKobe]

until he's leading a winning team it is all hype

And once he's leading a winning team it's "when is he going to make the WCF/Finals" and then it's "when is he gonna win a championship" and then it's "when is he going to win 4 like Steph/Lebron" etc etc.. You're not going to give him credit even if he does everything you're asking of him.

[tontoz]

until he's leading a winning team it is all hype



https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/820.jpg

[Xiao Yao You]

And once he's leading a winning team it's "when is he going to make the WCF/Finals" and then it's "when is he gonna win a championship" and then it's "when is he going to win 4 like Steph/Lebron" etc etc.. You're not going to give him credit even if he does everything you're asking of him.

I'll have no problem giving him credit. I doubt he stays healthy. Anything after that is all gravy but when you're hyped to be the possible Goat it's hard to live up to the hype. Lebron never did

[Carbine]

Lebron has lived up to the hype. You have to be one delusional hater to say he didn't.

[RRR3]

And once he's leading a winning team it's "when is he going to make the WCF/Finals" and then it's "when is he gonna win a championship" and then it's "when is he going to win 4 like Steph/Lebron" etc etc.. You're not going to give him credit even if he does everything you're asking of him.
He’s insanely butthurt he doesn’t get to call Toody the best French player anymore. It’s pathetic.

[Manny98]

He’s insanely butthurt he doesn’t get to call Toody the best French player anymore. It’s pathetic.

Rudy wouldn't have Sengun looking like Prime Shaq to be fair :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

He’s insanely butthurt he doesn’t get to call Toody the best French player anymore. It’s pathetic.

Such a weird reason to hate on the young man. Gobert has been Wemby's mentor for years and has said nothing but positive things about him and his potential as a player. I really don't get it.

[RRR3]

Rudy wouldn't have Sengun looking like Prime Shaq to be fair :oldlol:
Rudy gave up 42 to Ben Simmons.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy wouldn't have Sengun looking like Prime Shaq to be fair :oldlol:

they can't quit me!

[Xiao Yao You]

Such a weird reason to hate on the young man. Gobert has been Wemby's mentor for years and has said nothing but positive things about him and his potential as a player. I really don't get it.

who is hating? :facepalm

[SATAN]

You have to be one delusional hater to say he didn't.

Xiao a delusional hater?! No way! :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Xiao a delusional hater?! No way! :oldlol:

hating on Bum's. What is the problem? :facepalm