Lebron built similarly to Malone except with a PG skillset instead of big man

[3ba11]

Lebron can't score 36k as the roll-man and deft post touch, so even though it's remarkable to see Karl Malone with a guard handle, it's still just Karl Malone..... still inferior to MJ

[AlternativeAcc.]

MJ didn't have a PG handle or other worldly feel for the game/passing

the GOATs are; LeBron, Jokic, Bird, Magic... big dudes with other worldly passing, high efficiency scorers.


Time has proven that MJ's style doesn't win without absurd stacked teams and weak era. Bigger guys with elite passing when in every era... Bill Russell, Walton, Bird, Magic, LeBron, Jokic.... it's the blueprint.

Pippen was the guy who had a claim to elite facilitating in a 6'8 or bigger frame, so he has an argument for GOAT, not Jordan

[beasted]

Both of you are idiots and posting garbage for the sake of it.

One clown downplaying a big with PG handles and passing (extremely rare) and the other fool playing up a guy who averaged 6 assist or more 3 times in a 17 year career, with a 5.2 APG career average (not even top 100) as a world-class passer.

There's these things called the sky and grass. You might want to check them out sometime.

[tontoz]

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[Real Men Wear Green]

Just to make something clear: I didn't unban 3ba11. I have never unbanned 3ba11.

[elementally morale]

Just to make something clear: I didn't unban 3ba11. I have never unbanned 3ba11.

As we all know who this is I believe you have no power over him anyway.

[Real Men Wear Green]

As we all know who this is I believe you have no power over him anyway.I can't fault your logic.

[3ba11]

Due to passing, the GOATs are LeBron, Jokic, Bird, Magic...





Jordan passed on their level if needed, while they are trash scorers compared to MJ and therefore needed much more help

A GM's dream is finding cheap hustlers and defenders, while their nightmare is finding expensive scoring helped (star help) due to a 1st option that can't carry the scoring load

[SATAN]

Just to make something clear: I didn't unban 3ba11. I have never unbanned 3ba11.

So 3ba11ess is Jeff?

[beasted]

A GM's dream is finding cheap hustlers and defenders, while their nightmare is finding expensive scoring helped (star help) due to a 1st option that can't carry the scoring load

A logical point.

It's one thing to have an elite all time volume scorer. But then it's another thing for that player to:
1. Also be insanely efficient.
2. Amp up their scoring in the playoffs.
3. Still play insanely elite defense

Most other volume scorers, you are happy to get 1 of these. It's absolutely correct that it's a GM's dream to only need to rely heavily on one elite scorer.

[Manny98]

Except LeBron is way more athletic than Karl Malone and can shoot outside of 15 ft plus has goat level court vision

LeBron is basically a 2k created player in real life

[90sgoat]

Agreed.

I watched Lebron's first game, sat up late waiting to see this chosen one. I actually bought my first jersey with Kobe in 1996, my brother got Kemp, so I was not afraid to jump on a new hype.

Then I turn on the cable TV, that I pay a lot to watch, and then they show Lebron clanking a jumper with the ugliest form and I'm thinking da **** this is? And I see this Karl Malone looking teenager running up and down and I'm thinking is this the chozen one?

And then I realize, this isn't a guard, this is a power forward with a handle. This is like who we thought Keving Garnett would be.

[SouBeachTalents]

Agreed.

I watched Lebron's first game, sat up late waiting to see this chosen one. I actually bought my first jersey with Kobe in 1996, my brother got Kemp, so I was not afraid to jump on a new hype.

Then I turn on the cable TV, that I pay a lot to watch, and then they show Lebron clanking a jumper with the ugliest form and I'm thinking da **** this is? And I see this Karl Malone looking teenager running up and down and I'm thinking is this the chozen one?

And then I realize, this isn't a guard, this is a power forward with a handle. This is like who we thought Keving Garnett would be.
Well thank god you gave him until his first career game before reaching that conclusion, most fans would have a lot less patience than that.

[90sgoat]

Well thank god you gave him until his first career game before reaching that conclusion, most fans would have a lot less patience than that.

When you The Eye then you don't need to know more than that.

[sdot_thadon]

If Karl Malome had goat level athletic ability, atg passing ability, goat level basketball mind, with the media following him since 15 or 16 years of age. Malone however in his place wouldn't have made it to that level of stardom as a statutory rape scandal would have ended his hype in it's infancy......

[ShawkFactory]

Agreed.

I watched Lebron's first game, sat up late waiting to see this chosen one. I actually bought my first jersey with Kobe in 1996, my brother got Kemp, so I was not afraid to jump on a new hype.

Then I turn on the cable TV, that I pay a lot to watch, and then they show Lebron clanking a jumper with the ugliest form and I'm thinking da **** this is? And I see this Karl Malone looking teenager running up and down and I'm thinking is this the chozen one?

And then I realize, this isn't a guard, this is a power forward with a handle. This is like who we thought Keving Garnett would be.

Well thats..kind of your fault for not knowing that he wasn't a MJ/Kobe type guard.

[3ba11]

How can you guys be this dumb.. We know that Lebron isn't a power forward or a real big man because he can't fit with ballhandlers like Westbrook - it was literally the worst fit ever, which confirmed that Lebron isn't a "big" because a true big man like Malone or AD fit like gloves with ball-handlers like Westbrook, IT, Hughes, Wade, Ingram, etc.

So you guys miss the point - Lebron isn't a power forward and cannot play like Karl Malone - he's just BUILT like Malone but with a guard handle instead of big man skills.. .Accordingly, a body like Karl Malone that dribbles like a guard is still Karl Malone.. still inferior to MJ

Yes, I'm saying Lebron has Karl Malone-level talent but he's just a ball-handler instead of a big man... He would be superior to this if he could actually play like a big man AND a guard, but he cannot - he's only been a primary ballhandler his entire career - a ball-dominator - the numbers confirm this (hold-time and assisted rate and obvious bad fits with ball-handlers)

but carry on being dumb and thinking that Lebron can play like Karl and play like a guard - he cannot - he can only play like a guard (a ball-dominant one)

[ArbitraryWater]

As we all know who this is I believe you have no power over him anyway.


huh?

[BarberSchool]

Pippen was the guy who had a claim to elite facilitating in a 6'8 or bigger frame, so he has an argument for GOAT, not JordanAnything you typed prior, that had ANY MERIT, just dried up and blew TF away after you typed this beauty of a sentence. Where the fu@k in oblivion, do people like you come from ?

[BlackMamba8]

mj didn't have a pg handle or other worldly feel for the game/passing

the goats are; lebron, jokic, bird, magic... Big dudes with other worldly passing, high efficiency scorers.


Time has proven that mj's style doesn't win without absurd stacked teams and weak era. Bigger guys with elite passing when in every era... Bill russell, walton, bird, magic, lebron, jokic.... It's the blueprint.

Pippen was the guy who had a claim to elite facilitating in a 6'8 or bigger frame, so he has an argument for goat, not jordan

how ****ing dumb are you?

[3ba11]

MJ didn't have a PG handle or other worldly feel for the game/passing





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MJ was a 1st-time point guard at 26 years old and he was INSTANTLY the best point guard in the league - that's goat talent for the game of basketball..

He was a 30/10/10 point guard 30 years before the 30/10/10 era

[sdot_thadon]

How can you guys be this dumb.. We know that Lebron isn't a power forward or a real big man because he can't fit with ballhandlers like Westbrook - it was literally the worst fit ever, which confirmed that Lebron isn't a "big" because a true big man like Malone or AD fit like gloves with ball-handlers like Westbrook, IT, Hughes, Wade, Ingram, etc.

So you guys miss the point - Lebron isn't a power forward and cannot play like Karl Malone - he's just BUILT like Malone but with a guard handle instead of big man skills.. .Accordingly, a body like Karl Malone that dribbles like a guard is still Karl Malone.. still inferior to MJ

Yes, I'm saying Lebron has Karl Malone-level talent but he's just a ball-handler instead of a big man... He would be superior to this if he could actually play like a big man AND a guard, but he cannot - he's only been a primary ballhandler his entire career - a ball-dominator - the numbers confirm this (hold-time and assisted rate and obvious bad fits with ball-handlers)

but carry on being dumb and thinking that Lebron can play like Karl and play like a guard - he cannot - he can only play like a guard (a ball-dominant one)

You just keep polluting the net with stupid shit. Lebron HAS been the defacto point guard on some of his teams. Lebron HAS been the defacto power forward on some of his teams as well. He played like a big out of the post in Miami. And any fan without rocks for brains knows James was at his most unstoppable form as a PF. He's literally in his own category as a player. Meanwhile your guy has company in his category.

[sdot_thadon]

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MJ was a 1st-time point guard at 26 years old and he was INSTANTLY the best point guard in the league - that's goat talent for the game of basketball..

He was a 30/10/10 point guard 30 years before the 30/10/10 era

Oh you mean that time he stat padded target numbers because he couldn't deal with the media saying Magic was more valuable than he was? That 11 game stretch that his team played under .500 ball? Lol ok.

[3ba11]

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Oh you mean that time he stat padded target numbers because he couldn't deal with the media saying Magic was more valuable than he was? That 11 game stretch that his team played under .500 ball? Lol ok.


Jordan's 25-game stretch of 30/9/11 at point guard was 30 years before the 30/10/10 format against teams that averaged 45 wins (playoff teams) and he was carrying a cast worse than Lebron's 2005 cast or 2019

[3ba11]

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Oh you mean that time he stat padded target numbers because he couldn't deal with the media saying Magic was more valuable than he was? That 11 game stretch that his team played under .500 ball? Lol ok.


Jordan's 25-game stretch of 30/9/11 at point guard was 30 years before the 30/10/10 format against teams that averaged 45 wins (playoff teams) and he was carrying a cast worse than Lebron's 2005 cast or 2019

[3ba11]

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Oh you mean that time he stat padded target numbers because he couldn't deal with the media saying Magic was more valuable than he was? That 11 game stretch that his team played under .500 ball? Lol ok.


Jordan's 25-game stretch of 30/9/11 at point guard was 30 years before the 30/10/10 format against teams that averaged 45 wins (playoff teams) and he was carrying a cast worse than Lebron's 2005 cast or 2019..