Best players 1999-now (Lebron and soon to be Jokic).

[StrongLurk]

Based on MVPs/FMVPS (must have at least one of each).

Tier 1: Lebron (8)
Tier 2: Duncan (5)
Tier 3: Shaq (4)
Tier 4: Kobe (3), Curry (3), Durant (3), Giannis (3), Jokic (3).
Tier 5: Dirk (2)

Hopefully this helps put Jokic in some perspective. Dude is 29 years old and has a great chance of leaping to tier 2 with Duncan if he wins MVP/FMVP this year. Keep in mind Jokic is legit at the top of all-time career advanced stats (ahead of Lebron/MJ).

(Regular season) - Among superstar/1st options, Jokic is number 1 all time in PER, number 1 in True Shooting %, number 1 in Offensive Rating, number 1 in Win Share/48, and number 1 in Box Score Plus-Minus.

(Playoffs)- Among superstar/1st options, Jokic is number 1 all time in PER, number 4 in TS%, number 1 in Offensive Rating, number 3 in Win Share/48, and number 2 in Box Score Plus-Minus.

[FultzNationRISE]

If you need to know how other people voted to figure out who’s the best, youre doing it wrong.

Theres nothing “soon to be” about Jokic :oldlol:

He is already one of the best ever, easily. Even if they get reverse swept by the Lakers (assuming he still plays at his usual elite standard).