This is your king!? This is your king!!!?

[Mask the Embiid]

This is the greatest offensive player of all time even over michael jordan?

This is your king!? Getting his ass handed to him by a 22 year old kid while he is in his prime!



THIS IS YOUR KING GETTING BOXED AND LOCKED UP BY A 6’7 Naz Reid.


THIS IS YOU KING?

[Gohan]

Every non white in America knows jokic is trash. Nothing to see here

[SouBeachTalents]

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[Axe]

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[Carbine]

I thought the offensive GOAT talk was wild and uncalled for but just an FYI Jordan had bad games in the playoffs too. He was down 0-2 like the Nuggets will be soon against the Knicks and shot 25-77 in the first three games of that series. It happens to everyone in the history of the game, Jokic is no different.

[SouBeachTalents]

I thought the offensive GOAT talk was wild and uncalled for but just an FYI Jordan had bad games in the playoffs too. He was down 0-2 like the Nuggets will be soon against the Knicks and shot 25-77 in the first three games of that series. It happens to everyone in the history of the game, Jokic is no different.
Never happened to Embiid.

[John8204]

I think the lesson should be to temper expectations of players and not to do any insane hyping.

[Da_Realist]

I thought the offensive GOAT talk was wild and uncalled for but just an FYI Jordan had bad games in the playoffs too. He was down 0-2 like the Nuggets will be soon against the Knicks and shot 25-77 in the first three games of that series. It happens to everyone in the history of the game, Jokic is no different.

Not the same thing. Chicago lost on the road to a team that had a 27 game home winning streak. Both of those games were close. This was different. This reminds me of 1988 when Detroit went into Chicago and made it abundantly clear who the better team was, stomping Chicago two straight days. Detroit effectively took Chicago's soul that weekend. Game 5 was just a formality. That's what this feels like. What makes this Denver beat down more shocking is the Nuggets are the defending champions with homecourt advantage. Not many defending champions get (exposed?) embarrassed like this by a team that hasn't won anything (yet).

[Axe]

Not the same thing. Chicago lost on the road to a team that had a 27 game home winning streak. Both of those games were close. This was different. This reminds me of 1988 when Detroit went into Chicago and made it abundantly clear who the better team was, stomping Chicago two straight days. Detroit effectively took Chicago's soul that weekend. Game 5 was just a formality. That's what this feels like. What makes this Denver beat down more shocking is the Nuggets are the defending champions with homecourt advantage. Not many defending champions get (exposed?) embarrassed like this by a team that hasn't won anything (yet).
Jokic looked like he was playing through injury so it's fair to say he's not 100%. And his teammates have been crap lately as well. Too bad the refs were also against them in their own floor so the inevitable happened.

[fsvr54]

Every non white in America knows jokic is trash. Nothing to see here

Dumbest shit I've ever read

[Da_Realist]

Jokic looked like he was playing through injury so it's fair to say he's not 100%. And his teammates have been crap lately as well. Too bad the refs were also against them in their own floor so the inevitable happened.

Jordan also had an injury (wrist) in 93 when the Knicks beat the Bulls two straight games. Denver got beat down at home without Gobert on the court. This was more than just a loss. This was a statement.

[Da_Realist]

Dumbest shit I've ever read

Yep

[Axe]

Jordan also had an injury (wrist) in 93 when the Knicks beat the Bulls two straight games. Denver got beat down at home without Gobert on the court. This was more than just a loss. This was a statement.
So this was about '93 all of a sudden when what you talked about earlier was '88 lmao. And yes, that Denver loss is something indeed. I was expecting a defeat that is fair and square but obviously, that one wasn't.

[elementally morale]

The Wolves came out with a very good concept and great effort and Denver had neither. Jokic was subpar in both games. It's okay. Great players have off games and bad series sometimes. It's the lack of visible effort I'm more concerned with. I'm sure he will bounce back. If not this year then next.

[NBAGOAT]

Jokic will be fine in long run but this is going be 1st time he gets deserved slander if nuggets lose 4-0 or 4-1 and he doesn’t have dominating games. This is like 11 lakers imo, everyone still treats you as a top contender since you’re the defending champs and one series completely flips that perception. I’m seriously considering offseason move if nuggets get blown out.

[John8204]

Jokic will be fine in long run but this is going be 1st time he gets deserved slander if nuggets lose 4-0 or 4-1 and he doesn’t have dominating games. This is like 11 lakers imo, everyone still treats you as a top contender since you’re the defending champs and one series completely flips that perception. I’m seriously considering offseason move if nuggets get blown out.

He's nine seasons in and he's about to hit 30. He might only have 4 productive seasons left...so the long run might not be that long. He hasn't ruined his legacy like Durant has but we could be dealing with a kwahi situation where this is the decline.

[NBAGOAT]

He's nine seasons in and he's about to hit 30. He might only have 4 productive seasons left...so the long run might not be that long. He hasn't ruined his legacy like Durant has but we could be dealing with a kwahi situation where this is the decline.

Eh game not predicated on athleticism and he’s never injured i think it’ll be more than 4 years. He won’t be mvp lvl for that much longer sure but he’ll still be really good top 10-15

[John8204]

Eh game not predicated on athleticism and he’s never injured i think it’ll be more than 4 years. He won’t be mvp lvl for that much longer sure but he’ll still be really good top 10-15

Bigs can fall and fall off quickly

Yao Ming - 43
Marc Gasol - 39
Joakim Noah -39
Dwight Howard - 38
LaMarcus Aldridge - 38
Blake Griffin - 35
Deandre Jordan - 35
Demarcus Cousins - 33
Anthony Davis - 31
Rudy Gobert - 31
Andre Drummond - 30

Gobert and Yao Ming are the same distance as Yao and Shaq are. You can't just assume that Jokic is a 20 season player...guys like Dirk, Duncan, and KG they were in very good situations and they had organizations that afforded them the opportunity to decline...might not happen with Jokic.

[90sgoat]

It's almost impossible to win, when the refs are this against you.

Not saying Jokic hasn't been subpar, but if you allow the opposition to basically hack you with no calls, then not much you can do.

You need to be a shooter like MJ or Bird to hang in that kind of environment.

[hold this L]

Every non white in America knows jokic is trash. Nothing to see here

I have to appologize to you. I thought before that you were just an idiot, but you're racist and an idiot. :applause:

[SouBeachTalents]

I have to appologize to you. I thought before that you were just an idiot, but you're racist and an idiot. :applause:
He's just a gimmick. A spectacularly unfunny one.

[hold this L]

He's nine seasons in and he's about to hit 30. He might only have 4 productive seasons left...so the long run might not be that long. He hasn't ruined his legacy like Durant has but we could be dealing with a kwahi situation where this is the decline.

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Less than a week ago, he just finished with 28/16/10 on 67% TS. What the fock are you talking about? Now you might be right that he may not have many quality years at the top (I agree with you there), but you can't be seriously saying that it's started after the RS and the series he just had 4 days ago. I don't know if there's a sport where fans are as wishy washy after games. From people overrating the hell out of Joker (the goat offensive player) to now people like you saying it's over for him considering how good he's been for 98% of the year.

[tontoz]

OP's lack of self awareness is comical. Embiid can't even make the ECF in the weak east. Embiid just got beat by Jalen Brunson with Josh Hart as his second option. :facepalm

[BarberSchool]

Tim Connelly built current Denver and current Minnesnowta as two sides of the same coin.

Now they head to head.

Could have been a beautiful thing …

Last night was one of the worst officiated games we have seen in decades, and the entire world is abuzz, questioning the NBA’s integrity and legitimacy.

Silver has a big problem on his hands.

[John8204]

Less than a week ago, he just finished with 28/16/10 on 67% TS. What the fock are you talking about? Now you might be right that he may not have many quality years at the top (I agree with you there), but you can't be seriously saying that it's started after the RS and the series he just had 4 days ago. I don't know if there's a sport where fans are as wishy washy after games. From people overrating the hell out of Joker (the goat offensive player) to now people like you saying it's over for him considering how good he's been for 98% of the year.

I've been saying this for a while now. The hype for Jokic and the cultures need to constantly chase the "goat" is the sort of vanity each generation possesses. I don't have an issue with Jokic as a player he's a fine player one of the ten greatest centers of all-time.

His Career points 14,000, his career rebounds 7,249, and career assists is 4,667. So he's going to end his career sub 25K around 10K rebounds and he might finish top 20 in assists. He might never make another conference finals let alone win another ring.

Each generation likes to pick and choose different metrics and act like the previous ones were foolish. And it's just kinda dumb. Jokic might break the mold and not fall off a cliff but the actual odds are more like we've got only a couple more years before it's over.

[Gohan]

Look at all these insults and opinions, I prefer to stick with facts.

[BlackMamba8]

This is the greatest offensive player of all time even over michael jordan?

This is your king!? Getting his ass handed to him by a 22 year old kid while he is in his prime!



THIS IS YOUR KING GETTING BOXED AND LOCKED UP BY A 6’7 Naz Reid.


THIS IS YOU KING?

He took out your queen james....LMAO now go back in the basement you BUM.....in the end "its just basketball"

[ralph_i_el]

I can feel the pain in this post. I'm sorry OP, I wish they hadn't let Embiid down too.

[ralph_i_el]

Jokic doesn't jump. He might end up the Andre Miller of bigs. It's why he doesn't get hurt. Even guys like Yao took way more bad falls than him. Can you even conjure the image of Jokic taking a bad fall in your head? I can't remember it happening once, and I've watched the Nuggets a ton since the bubble.

Just a thought.

[j3lademaster]

Jokic doesn't jump. He might end up the Andre Miller of bigs. It's why he doesn't get hurt. Even guys like Yao took way more bad falls than him. Can you even conjure the image of Jokic taking a bad fall in your head? I can't remember it happening once, and I've watched the Nuggets a ton since the bubble.

Just a thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEXDpX6shx0

One of the few times I remember him falling.

[CountDracula]

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[1_BAD_TIGER]

:oldlol: Clowns going to Clown

[sd3035]

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rekt

[tontoz]

OP is definitely the king of backfire threads.

:roll:

[SATAN]

:yaohappy:

[1987_Lakers]

The backfire was the most predictable thing ever. :oldlol:

[sd3035]

Embiid should be watching so he can try to learn how to not be a soft choking bitch

[FultzNationRISE]

The backfire was the most predictable thing ever. :oldlol:


This

[White Hammer]

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[John8204]

Well the legacy game is this week...a win and he makes his third trip to the finals which is a decent pace for a great. If he loses we're going to end up having to contextualize him differently.

[Carbine]

He could come out and do 40/15/10 with great efficiency and still lose. Or he could have a 23/15/8 game on average efficiency and win.

This game will have a lot more to do with how his teammates play than himself. If they are throwing up bricks like game 6 that can't be held against Jokic in any conversation where the collective IQ is above 80

[tontoz]

His bench was 4-27 last night.

[John8204]

This game will have a lot more to do with how his teammates play than himself. If they are throwing up bricks like game 6 that can't be held against Jokic in any conversation where the collective IQ is above 80

Reggie Miller had 6 runs to the finals...Jokic has 2. You can blame the teammates all you want but if you're not in the final four for the majority of your career that's a stain on your legacy especially if you are going to call someone "MVP" every year.

[SouBeachTalents]

Reggie Miller had 6 runs to the finals...Jokic has 2. You can blame the teammates all you want but if you're not in the final four for the majority of your career that's a stain on your legacy especially if you are going to call someone "MVP" every year.
You know damn well it's called the conference finals you fvcking troll :lol

[John8204]

You know damn well it's called the conference finals you fvcking troll :lol

Clearly pointed out the four teams their buddy do you not think making the finals conference or otherwise is important for a players legacy?

[tontoz]

Clearly pointed out the four teams their buddy do you not think making the finals conference or otherwise is important for a players legacy?



I never see anyone mention conference finals appearances when comparing great players. Making the conference finals is only important for players who have never done it, like Embiid.

[John8204]

I never see anyone mention conference finals appearances when comparing great players. Making the conference finals is only important for players who have never done it, like Embiid.

Well you have now...I don't know how old you are but conference finals used to mean more than the NBA finals

[tontoz]

Well you have now...I don't know how old you are but conference finals used to mean more than the NBA finals



Lol no that was never the case. LMAO. Bird, Magic and MJ considered it a failure if they got to the conference finals and lost.

Getting to the finals was seen as an accomplishment but just making the conference finals was never a thing if you didn't win it. You just made that up

[John8204]

Lol no that was never the case. LMAO. Bird, Magic and MJ considered it a failure if they got to the conference finals and lost.

Getting to the finals was seems as an accomplishment but just making the conference finals was never a thing if you didn't win it. You just made that up

Well Magic only made the conference finals and lost once..but Larry and MJ they may have considered it a failure but those series against the Pistons and 76ers were legendary. And frankly the Western Conference finals were bigger than the NBA finals for many years.

This also happens in football for 15 years the NFC championship game was bigger than the Superbowl...and then for a while the AFC championship game was bigger than the Superbowl.

[tontoz]

Well Magic only made the conference finals and lost once..but Larry and MJ they may have considered it a failure but those series against the Pistons and 76ers were legendary. And frankly the Western Conference finals were bigger than the NBA finals for many years.

This also happens in football for 15 years the NFC championship game was bigger than the Superbowl...and then for a while the AFC championship game was bigger than the Superbowl.


Those series were legendary but the loser saw it as a failure, not an accomplishment. Back then there was no salary cap so teams stayed together longer and there were intense rivalries.

The NFL is a different subject. For maybe a 20 year stretch the Super Bowl game sucked. There was a long string of blowouts.

[John8204]

Those series were legendary but the loser saw it as a failure, not an accomplishment. Back then there was no salary cap so teams stayed together longer and there were intense rivalries.


Are we the players? So you admit that the series are legendary yet you don't want to attribute value to them? Do you not know about Wilt vs Bill...when do you think they faced off LOL. Making it to the top four is a big deal...it's become less of a big deal thanks partly to Lebron having rivalries in the finals and other guys leaving teams.

[tontoz]

Are we the players? So you admit that the series are legendary yet you don't want to attribute value to them? Do you not know about Wilt vs Bill...when do you think they faced off LOL. Making it to the top four is a big deal...it's become less of a big deal thanks partly to Lebron having rivalries in the finals and other guys leaving teams.


Making the top 4 was a given for Wilt and Russell lol. All they had to do was show up and they could get to the conference finals. Winning it was an accomplishment, getting there wasn't.

Rivalries are just a casualty of the times. Stars have more mobility now and team payroll is limited by the cap.

[John8204]

Making the top 4 was a given for Wilt and Russell lol. All they had to do was show up and they could get to the conference finals. Winning it was an accomplishment, getting there wasn't.

Rivalries are just a casualty of the times. Stars have more mobility now and team payroll is limited by the cap.

Okay...well let me ask you this...which legends was making top four not a given?

[tontoz]

Okay...well let me ask you this...which legends was making top four not a given?


I don't think it was a given for Larry. The East has a few good teams back then. The sixers were really good early in his career. The Bucks had some pretty good teams and later in the 80s the pistons took over.

The west was pretty weak though. The spurs were decent but not really a big threat. They had a much easier road that the Cs. If the Lakers were healthy they were pretty much a lock to make the finals. Making the WCF? :oldlol: not even worth mentioning.


Back in the mid 60s there were only 10 teams ffs.