Should the Wolves bench Gobert?

[Carbine]

Not only do they not really need him for defense right now, his offensive ineptitude in high stakes games is hurting the team.

[GimmeThat]

Gobert should bench Gobert after eating his own words

[Xiao Yao You]

Tough times for the trolls :roll:

[GimmeThat]

oh well, they want the ultimate blackout which is heart failure, nothing can stop them

[tpols]

They looked so much better with Naz because he actually has to be guarded on every inch of the floor. They have 5 point spacing with him at the 5. With rudy they're giving up a power play to the opponent.

[hold this L]

Croissant in the last game -10
Towns & Edwards -32


They looked so much better with Naz because he actually has to be guarded on every inch of the floor. They have 5 point spacing with him at the 5.
Naz -25 in 20 minutes

[SouBeachTalents]

Croissant in the last game -10
Towns & Edwards -32


Naz -25 in 20 minutes
+/- for single game sample sizes is frankly a meaningless stat. Ant was -32, tied for worst on the team.

[FultzNationRISE]

They dont need to bench him because theyre still gonna use all their bigs over the course of the game, but they can keep him on a short leash and if they go on runs without him they can just leave him out for however long.

I actually like Toody on a personal level and dont mind seeing him do well, but his clumsiness on offense definitely yields some pretty inconsistent results on that end. It also gives you a glimpse into the mind of a true psycho to know Xiao thinks Toods was always Utah’s most important offensive player, and apparently one of the best offensive players in the league.

It’s unfathomable lunacy and yet he sticks with it. Fascinating.

[SouBeachTalents]

They dont need to bench him because theyre still gonna use all their bigs over the course of the game, but they can keep him on a short leash and if they go on runs without him they can just leave him out for however long.

I actually like Toody on a personal level and dont mind seeing him do well, but his clumsiness on offense definitely yields some pretty inconsistent results on that end. It also gives you a glimpse into the mind of a true psycho to know Xiao thinks Toods was always Utah’s most important offensive player, and apparently one of the best offensive players in the league.

It’s unfathomable lunacy and yet he sticks with it. Fascinating.
Have you seen his posting in the Jazz forum? Tens of thousands of posts literally talking to himself, making his takes on Toody seem sane compared to that level of true unfathomable lunacy :lol

[GimmeThat]

Croissant in the last game -10
Towns & Edwards -32


Naz -25 in 20 minutes

Gobert with a 10.9 USG% and a BPM of -6.0
Naz was at 19 % and -3.4

Naz with a higher GmSc as well, at 8.7 to Toody's 7.5

[tpols]

Croissant in the last game -10
Towns & Edwards -32


Naz -25 in 20 minutes

The wolves defense has already proved they can play elite without gobert. They looked way more dangerous in Game 2 with rudy out on offense. And Naz basically won them Game 1 when he went off in the 2nd half.

[Xiao Yao You]

+/- for single game sample sizes is frankly a meaningless stat. Ant was -32, tied for worst on the team.

Hes inconsistent. He comes off the bench for a reason

[Proctor]

I knew for a fact that when Garza came in for the last 5 minutes he would somehow outperform Rudy and he did. Trolls will cry but it happened :facepalm

[Im Still Ballin]

No. If you watched the game you'd have seen that they were better with Rudy in. Consider that Aaron Gordon hit 3 threes when Gobert was on the court (when does he ever do that?) and Denver made some well-defended tough shots. Adjust for the variance of shooting luck and the Gobert minutes were more or less neutral.

The non-Rudy minutes were comparatively worse. Denver figured out some weak spots and exploited them. Note Nikola making extremely quick reads on the short roll and nailing passes to Gordon at the rim.

[GimmeThat]

No. If you watched the game you'd have seen that they were better with Rudy in. Consider that Aaron Gordon hit 3 threes when Gobert was on the court (when does he ever do that?) and Denver made some well-defended tough shots. Adjust for the variance of shooting luck and the Gobert minutes were more or less neutral.

The non-Rudy minutes were comparatively worse. Denver figured out some weak spots and exploited them. Note Nikola making extremely quick reads on the short roll and nailing passes to Gordon at the rim.

players Gobert have a worse defensive rating to (62min 114):

Anderson 52 min 104
McDaniel 87 min 107
Reid 73 min 107
Conley 93 min 110
KAT 99 min 110
Ant 117 min 111
NAW 78 min 113

[Xiao Yao You]

I knew for a fact that when Garza came in for the last 5 minutes he would somehow outperform Rudy and he did. Trolls will cry but it happened :facepalm
Garza, Whiteside, Monroe > multi time allnba/ dpoty :lol

[GimmeThat]

Garza, Whiteside, Monroe > multi time allnba/ dpoty :lol

actually Monroe = multi time allnba/dpoty based on 10 years services of pension
same goes for Justin Holiday, Conley, Reggie Jackson

but back to your point, Gobert does play like this is his first time making the playoffs

[ImKobe]

Toody making his teams worse in the POs

what else is new?

[Xiao Yao You]

Toody making his teams worse in the POs

what else is new?

As he looks for his 4th playoff series upset. Facts vs narrative

:facepalm

[GimmeThat]

Toody making his teams worse in the POs

what else is new?

he's still waiting on the Nuggets to submit their complete play by play break down and price tag

[GimmeThat]

As he looks for his 4th playoff series upset. Facts vs narrative

:facepalm

you mean when he was united with another troll named Joe Ingle?

[Kblaze8855]

Nah You don’t bitch one of your best players because of one bad loss but he isn’t the kind of guy you can consider reducing the minutes to see how it goes. They have proven they can play defense against Denver without him and Reed is a far more skilled offensive player who has shown some defense himself. He can keep opposing bigs out of the lane.

Maybe pull Rudy a little early, and then just go with what’s working. You don’t straight up bench him though. He has a history of being emotional when he feels slighted, and you don’t gain anything by him being in a bad mood and all sulky.

If you take an early big lead play him big minutes so it doesn’t look like you were even considering a change.

[Xiao Yao You]

They were out rebounded the game ridy missed. Good luck benching him :facepalm

[Axe]

Yes.

[Duffy Pratt]

They dont need to bench him because theyre still gonna use all their bigs over the course of the game, but they can keep him on a short leash and if they go on runs without him they can just leave him out for however long.

I actually like Toody on a personal level and dont mind seeing him do well, but his clumsiness on offense definitely yields some pretty inconsistent results on that end. It also gives you a glimpse into the mind of a true psycho to know Xiao thinks Toods was always Utah’s most important offensive player, and apparently one of the best offensive players in the league.

It’s unfathomable lunacy and yet he sticks with it. Fascinating.

When it comes to unfathomable lunacy with respect to a player, you should know.

[White Hammer]

When it comes to unfathomable lunacy with respect to a player, you should know.

:lebronamazed:

[Xiao Yao You]

Yes.

What kind of life would that lead to for you and your fellow trolls though?

[Axe]

:blah

Loser.

[SATAN]

Have you seen his posting in the Jazz forum? Tens of thousands of posts literally talking to himself, making his takes on Toody seem sane compared to that level of true unfathomable lunacy :lol

:yaohappy:

[Carbine]

I've seen enough. It's not about hurting feelings at this point Kbald555, it's about winning a god damn title.

He is just not that guy right now. They need to make the change, otherwise they are squandering a golden chance

[RRR3]

Toody :roll:

[Proctor]

Getting abused by Jokic and Gordon and many dumb turnovers and fouls. Might be time to give Garza a look for spot minutes or Reid longer minutes.

[Carbine]

Jesus Christ that hilarious travel is the last straw.

Naz needs to be playing 35 minutes and this joke can play 10 minutes. This is embarrassing

[Gohan]

Gobert and the refs fvcked this whole game up. Gobert the trashest player I've seen since 08 Marcus camby

[Proctor]

Travels, turnovers, and late game FT bricks. The total Gobert playoff package. But trolls say Reid is shit! :facepalm

[Axe]

Gobert the trashest player
:yaohappy:

[SATAN]

As he looks for his 4th playoff series upset. Facts vs narrative

:facepalm

:facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Jesus Christ that hilarious travel is the last straw.

Naz needs to be playing 35 minutes and this joke can play 10 minutes. This is embarrassing

Naz had 4 boards. Hes on the bench for a reason

[Proctor]

4 missed FTs, 5 turnovers and 5 costly fouls.

Horrible, horrible game from Gobert and Towns was a disgrace too. Reid has to see the floor more or this series is over!

[Xiao Yao You]

4 missed FTs, 5 turnovers and 5 costly fouls.

Horrible, horrible game from Gobert and Towns was a disgrace too. Reid has to see the floor more or this series is over!

What about gleague star Garza troll?

[hold this L]

The wolves defense has already proved they can play elite without gobert. They looked way more dangerous in Game 2 with rudy out on offense. And Naz basically won them Game 1 when he went off in the 2nd half.

That doesn't prove anything. Players and teams often play elite for a game or series without their top stars, it doesn't mean that it's the norm.

[RRR3]

That doesn't prove anything. Players and teams often play elite for a game or series without their top stars, it doesn't mean that it's the norm.
Not familiar with "playoff Toody"?

[GimmeThat]

That doesn't prove anything. Players and teams often play elite for a game or series without their top stars, it doesn't mean that it's the norm.

his newborn has out grown him already

[Manny98]

4 missed FTs, 5 turnovers and 5 costly fouls.

Horrible, horrible game from Gobert and Towns was a disgrace too. Reid has to see the floor more or this series is over!

I find it hilarious that somebody who doesn't even handle the basketball can manage to turn the ball over 5 times in a single game

Only Gobert :oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

I find it hilarious that somebody who doesn't even handle the basketball can manage to turn the ball over 5 times in a single game

Only Gobert :oldlol:

a perpetual shot clock violation

[SATAN]

:confusedshrug: